This is not for everyone, not everyone can acknowledge this truth. It's painful, but true.
We are meat sacks in an infinite universe, we are nothing.
We are meat sacks in an infinite universe, we are nothing.
If this was The Truth, good would never exist
God exists, and i hope something convices you of that, and that He is good and loves you.
Why feel the need to post this?
There is no good, there is no evil. Both are man made ideas
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Because it's truth nuke
The universe isn't infinite though lol. The establishment nor the religious believe that's it's infinite.
Nihilism is feminine and artificial; it was created in its modern form in the 20th century to control people into hedonism.
Prove this statement wrong with historical evidence.
So why do you judge Chad for pump and dump all foids?
Why do you judge foids of being hypergamous, never taking accountability of nothing when do something wrong?
Why do you judge normies for being normies?
Why do you judge ethnics for raping and killing?
Why do you judge jews for destroying the west?
Why do you judge betas and even cucks for you know, accepting everything woman do to them?
Why do you judge people from IT that constantly hate and "bully" incels?
Why do you judge liberals and leftists in general for destroying everyone and everything?
What's the difference between the animal of your pfp which is very beautiful objectively to a cockroach, a filthy disgusting creature that nobody wants
Schopenhauer postulated ascetic practices to reach the truth...
Nihilism is an umbrella term. What are you talking about precisely? Epistemological? Moral?
oh yeah just a random assertion backed up by nothing, as expected of christcucks
What about my other responses?
The post itself is backed up by nothing, and im not here to convice him, just that i hope he one day believes in God.
just a barrage of questions
That reveals good and evil do exist
That there are things that are objectively good and other bad
You here is using in your profile a picture of a beautiful Touhou girl, you wouldn't pick up her if she was as beautiful as DEI-slop
my avi does not have touhou characters tho? if you mean my banner it's just a cover of an album I love, I didn't put it there because she's beautiful. I cycle through album covers.
Good and Evil do not stem from God necessarily, they stem from codes, and codes are not necessarily made by God, were he to exist. I have found in my life that there is no point in trying to argue through reason with people who do not employ reason to reach their conclusions though. I don't particularly hate religion or something, but it is a cult and when shit happens like "science proves religion!!!!" I get irritated because it's complete bollocks as usual. I am not dealing with people who are able to recognize their own shortcomings in reason and thought and fix them accordingly and ponder about them: I am dealing with self-appointed missionaries and evangelists who make it their life goal to spread "the Truth" and do not think critically about anything regarding it, because if they did, they would stop believing, as I did. I renounced the Holy Spirit, the greatest blasphemy ever conceived in Christianity, what are you gonna do now? Label me all sorts of demonic names? Tell me I have no morality, no values, and such things? By all means go ahead.
People are transient and need different things to hang on in this shitty life we live, but I get particularly irritated when accuracy is lost in favor of ambiguity and proselytizing. Confusing faith for reason and science is intellectually dishonest and bothers me because the complexity of thought is exchanged for a cult flattening everything onto "God" in a manner that is self-referential and circular, you believe that an axiom such as "God" is the truth o algo while it's just an arbitrarily appointed cut-off point. Ignoring Agrippa's Trilemma, ignoring the philosophical implications of the Incompleteness Theorems. It's just tiring having to read this constant low-IQ babble sold as some revelation of sorts when in reality religion is nothing but make believe to soothe the soul.
Same exact applies to any other religion.
I like to pursue The Truth, and that's why i believe God is real and Jesus is the son of God.
I have been conviced, i saw all possibilities and chose following Jesus rather than falling in atheism/deism.
If you care about The Truth you should think in the possibility God being real, and you with God, forget about other people's perception, but YOUR interpretation and decision if God is real
If you ever do, do not be lazy but go until the end with effort
thank you for proving all of my points kek I need to ignoremaxx the christcucks in here
You refuse to accept others choosing anything you didn't choose, i'm just using the same thing you used to convice yourself of atheism but for Christianity
Existential Nihilism mostly but most other forms apply.
Schopenhauer talked frequently about hating people, constant anger is a form of hedonism as it brings pleasure to the brain.
True asceticism is only found in Jesus Christ
Humans have objective morality.
God is real but He doesn't help me
because himself is undecided. and probably comes from a religious background
I wouldn't say we're inherently meant to solely suffer. Suffering is functional, it alerts you that something is off, that you're likely not aligned with your true will/nature. But pleasure is functional too, it alerts you that you are doing something beneficial. Leaning into that system and becoming a hedonist is the best we can do to be happy.
Ofc some people are deformed as they are an amalgamation of their ancestors awful habits. Such a person will never feel anything but suffering, as they are an unnatural existence. They should've died off in their infancy but were artificially kept alive through garbage modern practices or "human rights". Their airways are narrow, their eyesight is poor, their bodies are deteriorating. No matter what they do, they will never be happy as their bodies have no reason to send out such signals. Such people should kill themselves. They feel suicidal for a reason. The body acknowledges it can not be fixed and is telling you to just end your suffering. They can either cope in misery forever, or just follow their intuition for once and end it all.
If well developed people chronically suffer it is due to the tension between instinct and restrictions.
Ofc some people are deformed as they are an amalgamation of their ancestors awful habits. Such a person will never feel anything but suffering, as they are an unnatural existence. They should've died off in their infancy but were artificially kept alive through garbage modern practices or "human rights". Their airways are narrow, their eyesight is poor, their bodies are deteriorating. No matter what they do, they will never be happy as their bodies have no reason to send out such signals. Such people should kill themselves. They feel suicidal for a reason. The body acknowledges it can not be fixed and is telling you to just end your suffering. They can either cope in misery forever, or just follow their intuition for once and end it all.
If well developed people chronically suffer it is due to the tension between instinct and restrictions.
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Every philosophical belief is artificial but the concept it describes is real. If we had an inherent purpose we were meant to observe, we would all universally be aware of it.
The concept of nihilism especially existential, has no basis in reality and is masturbation of ones own hopelessness.
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Prpve it by defining a universal meaning for human life. No vague shit.
The universal meaning of human life is to know God, obey God, become morally holy, and prepare the soul for eternal union with God after death.
Vague. Not universal.
How? In what ways?
There are different definitions of god, of what it means to follow and obey god, even amongst christians. You also can't prove god or the soul, he's more of a symbol used to represent something incomprehensible. And if it were universal, everyone would follow god, and do it in the same manner.
This response does not make any sense, you asked for my opinion than responded with a supposed objective disagreement with your own opinion. There is no universal meaning of life because someone will always disagree with it. From mine, and many other Christians the meaning of life that I have presented is universal whether you follow it or not.
Humans universally experience love, morality, beauty, mortality, and consciousness, yet cultures interpret and express these differently. Mans nature is obedience to something higher than yourself; brain science vindicates this; it is only that Christianity is the most plausible theory to fulfill this. Christianity, I hold to be true like one as if gravity was true because, alas gravity is a theory that can be observed in everyday life.
What does love, morality (there is no observable objective morality), beauty etc have to do with god? And yes people cope with their meaningless lives in different ways, nothing new.
You've already assumed life is meaningless. That's not an observable fact, Just because people disagree about God doesn't mean God isn't real. People disagree about politics, morality, and reality itself all the time. And saying religion is a coping mechanism doesn't prove it's false. Something can comfort people and still be true such as maternal love. Objective morality can be observed via history. I dont think that beauty and morality prove God but it makes the theory that God does not exist far more plausible, along with other unexplainables in the universe.
Why do leftists, women and global elites share all of the opinions you argue?
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I've already assumed that because you've failed to provide a concrete, observable, universal meaning for human life. The "burden of proof" is on you. "Politics, morality.." Yes lets lump together a social construct with something you asserted was innate. If people disagree on morality, it can't be objective or universal.
I agree that you can't disprove a creator, just like you can't prove it. And then you strawman me with leftists and women lmao. Also global elites don't exist. They're an idea, just like god.
It is not a strawman because women are more susceptible to materialistic atheism and leftism was built on the foundations of materialistic atheism, Marxism, secular humanism, ect.
"life is meaningless" is also a positive claim that carries its own burden of proof. Disagreement about a truth isn't the same as proof that no truth exists. objective morality if it exists, is something humans discover imperfectly, not something we automatically know perfectly. you're asking for the wrong kind of evidence. Meaning isn't an object; you cannot inject things into it and conduct experiments. I also never said disagreement disproves universality. Humans disagree about plenty of things that exist independently of us.
"True existential atheism, burning with hatred to a seemingly unjust god, is a spiritual state, it is an attempt to grapple with the true God, whose ways are so inexplainable, even to the most believing of men and it has been more than once known to end in a blinding vision of him whom the atheist truly seeks, it is Christ who works in your soul." -Nihilism, Seraphim Rose
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Guilt by association. Leftism is a meaningless social construct.
The lack of proof for the opposite claim IS the proof. It is meaningless until a meaning is proven.
If a person never discovers that "objective morality" then how can you claim it exists? If someone comes to a different conclusion than you, then how can you claim that it is something that exists out there waiting to be discovered. If that was the case we would gravitate towards it. Try spreading your wisdom at the North Sentinel islands and witness their objective morality like a couple of christians have already. Even christians act on instinct and commit grave sin all the time. Almost like the idea of "sin" is meaningless and was imposed on them.
Would you rather believe god made you prone to sin and damned most people to hell or that you are perfectly designed to reside in nature, and every feeling you have is functional (which includes wrath, envy, pride etc.).
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Read what I said about objective morality again. I never said Christians were perfect. Sin is vindicated by history and our societies today, why is the United States inferior to the past in most ways, because sin and hedonism was allowed.
Teaching people to not believe in God allows them to live meaningless lives where they can think only of their physical bodies and work hard in order to imitate people richer than them.
"True existential atheism, burning with hatred to a seemingly unjust god, is a spiritual state, it is an attempt to grapple with the true God, whose ways are so inexplainable, even to the most believing of men and it has been more than once known to end in a blinding vision of him whom the atheist truly seeks, it is Christ who works in your soul." -Nihilism, Seraphim Rose
Alasdair MacIntyre was a devout secular Marxist who, after researching for his book, After virtue became a Christian because he observed the lack of morality in society.
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You said that we imperfectly discover it. What is the difference between that claim and "morality is subjective". If people never "discover" the objective morality you claim exists, then from their perspective morality must be subjective. And since we are humans, our perspective is what matters. Claiming that objective morality exists separately from humanity is a completely unfounded belief.
The US bit is irrelevant as the US is a social construct and it being inferior now is your opinion, which is once again unfounded as you haven't lived in the past. People have always murdered as it is in their nature. Why should sin be prohibited, doesn't that beat the purpose of salvation? If you don't get to choose your own actions you can't claim to be more moral, you were simply frightened into submission. What you are arguing is that forced restrictions make society more comfortable for some individuals (specifically yourself, and a lot of people would disagree). Which is fine, I won't argue that and it has nothing to do with our discussion.
How could they have lived meaningless lives if you believe a universal meaning for human life to exist? Wouldn't you then have to belive that they were unconsciously living out that meaning?
I don't believe god to be unjust. Once again to me god is just an idea and a symbol I use to represent the concept of "being". But let's exchange god with nature. I don't believe nature to be unjust as justice is once again an idea with no physical grounding. Things simply happen. Cause and affect. Thinking about meaning is for the ones who don't live in the moment. And if there was a meaning, the ones thinking about it are less likely to be living it out.
I believe "sin" to be simply be a functional state one finds themselves in. When someone attacks you it is rage that allows you to fight back. The attraction you feel towards your wife is physically no different to the attraction you feel towards other women, which you would dub lustful. The separation between the two is manmade, in reality it is that same feeling that encourages humans to reproduce, regardless of if it's a sin or not. Once again, functional.
Ego death and adhering to an objective morality is inhumane and self-destructive. Humans aren't robots, they can't be programmed to follow written law. Their values are flexible depending on their environment. They are hypocrites and it is not a bad thing. There is a reason a christian, an atheist, a left winger and a right winger all experience the same fight or flight reaction when a pistol is pointed at their heads. If required to respond with force, they will do it, regardless of belief. Ideology gets overwritten by instinct in extreme situations. One can't help but believe that said instinct is true human nature.
One guy I've nevet heard of converting to christianity out of literally functionality has nothing to do with me.
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its not even sufferings at this point, its humiliation ritual
People push religion, non-believers push back.
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