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Travis Bickle

Travis Bickle

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whenever blackpill is posted on social media normies are ready with classic reply on attacking the person saying it rather than attacking the argument.
so, they take the morally high ground and say that.
"I hope you get the help you need".
"go to therapy".
"seek help".

and avoid the counter argument.
sometimes they say 'when you are arguing with pig the pig will make you come to its level and beat with experience and that's why they say it'.
so, if anyone of you been to therapy share how was it.
I am too broke for therapy.
i think only superficial problems can be solved in therapy that Chad/Stacy has.
no therapy for my face it seems.
 
whenever blackpill is posted on social media normies are ready with classic reply on attacking the person saying it rather than attacking the argument.
so, they take the morally high ground and say that.
"I hope you get the help you need".
"go to therapy".
"seek help".

and avoid the counter argument.
sometimes they say 'when you are arguing with pig the pig will make you come to its level and beat with experience and that's why they say it'.
so, if anyone of you been to therapy share how was it.
I am too broke for therapy.
i think only superficial problems can be solved in therapy that Chad/Stacy has.
no therapy for my face it seems.
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Therapy is a jewish scam. A profession full of narcissistic overpaid foids and jews.

The premise is that a persons problems can be solved by adjusting your mindset. It doesn't take a genius to see that this is against all laws of (human) nature.
 
No therapy for your birthplace , height and genetics . Its Like saying to a cockroach that It can Be a Lion someday.

Absolute and utter Gaslight thats what this " Is .
 
I can confirm that therapy is nonsense.

I know that nothing I say will convince you because this is so deep, but everything everyone above me said is true.

People are liars. Therapy is a scam. Medications ruin your brain and give you side effects. Psychiatry/therapy are eugenics. Never trust them, please.
 
Gotta say, even from men outside of incel circles I have only ever negatives things about american mental health services. In germany, my experience has been mixed, meaning some of the experiences were good/helpful.

Leftist insanity is less prevailing, esp under people above ~25-30. Got a male therapist in that age range and I can talk with him about most things, I could share stats about dating with him and while he still had his university access he even looked some stuff up for me that I couldn't find on researchgate.

Being able to share and vent with another human being in person helps, once you have openly spoken about how shit everything is the internal pressure goes down for a while. Also, shameful and painful memories / aspects of your present life become less thorny once you were able to air them out once, it becomes easier to accept what is and work on what you can once your prespective on your own life is less dominated by shame and anxiety.

All that is too say, while it might not be possible or easy in America and less possible every year in other places, if you can find a sympathetic professional, I have found it makes life much more bearable.

Medication (not perscripted by therapists but by psychiatrists) has been mostly shit, but after 6 useless / harmful antidepressants my current meds have slightly raised the floor for how low my depression makes my mood fall. I still feel horrible at times, but my mental stops getting worse sooner and starts going up quicker.

English online spaces have mostly horror stories relating to therapy and I suspect most come from people living in the states, it is not this bad everywhere / always.

I might just have been extremly lucky. Btw it's my therapist, not psychiatrist, psychiatrist are the ones perscribing all the risky medication and they have a very surface level picture of you, I see that one like once every 2 months and she knows very little about me.

Things going as well with my therapist as they did also I think (maybe arrogantly so) had to do with me being a high IQ autist and approaching the whole thing very seriously:

a) I waited till he got to know me as an extremly rational autist capable of cognitive decoupling on even very traumatic topics. Think it was 5 months into therapy I started talking about difficult topics like Incels.
b) Brought a whole folder with printed out studies, quotes, surveys, etc. to the session. I would basically only show provable facts for a bit while being conservative with how I interpreted them and slowly get to the punch line. Also intermixxed some more funny / entertaining elements like the old tinder experiments to keep him interested.
c) Got a 2 hour session and still was mostly done showing how men are innately "poor" on the dating market, dating apps make the competition global, what women care about seems to be mostly hard to fake signals of genetic fitness, race differences in attraction, dark triad stuff and then slowly started talking about how miserable many young men were and what was going on in incel circles. Obviously no slurs + no losing control and getting emotional.
d)
In later sessions we talked about more and more stuff and after he had learned that I could be relied on to be reasonable and could back up my claims I started getting to more subjective stuff, how much pain it was causing me both being alone and also seeing other men abandoned like this in a society proclaiming to prioritize fairness and equality, etc. It basically went more easily from there, with him just trusting me and being understanding and us talking about possible solutions like prostituion or trying specific type of dating apps for autists and all that he could think off. I told him how humiliating dating apps would be for me but I also didn't want to appear uncooperative and one more bad experience wasn't gonna change much anyways.


I have another plan laid out if I ever need to convince someone of race realism:
1. show pitbull / dog stats about how 2 breeds dominate all dog attacks on humans ->
2. show stats about how men are 95% of shot by cop victims & dominate violent crime stats in every country ever all throughout time -> people intuitvely know that these dog breeds and men are more violent innately, which means they already subconciously accept the possibility of genes affecting aggression, and then I would start with ->
3. showing stats about how blacks are more violent (without yet mentioning my proposed explanation), I would preemptively counter all the excuses usually made by ->
4. showing stats about how rich blacks more violent than poor whites, high IQ blacks more violent than low IQ whites, etc. ->
5. at some point comes the stat that compares blacks in USA with all the blacks around the world in differend countries and shows they fit right in in terms of crimes commited with blacks in 3rd world countries, from which follows ->
6. that any enviormental explanation proposes blacks have as bad an enviorment in a first world country (USA) as in the thrid world countries around the world.

Well, this got a bit longer than intended, but I think you can see I invested quite a bit of effort into making my chances at success as high as possible. I enjoyed it as well, since I could finally use all the studies and graphs and arguments my autistic ass had collected all throughout my time online.
 
whenever blackpill is posted on social media normies are ready with classic reply on attacking the person saying it rather than attacking the argument.
so, they take the morally high ground and say that.
"I hope you get the help you need".
"go to therapy".
"seek help".

and avoid the counter argument.
sometimes they say 'when you are arguing with pig the pig will make you come to its level and beat with experience and that's why they say it'.
so, if anyone of you been to therapy share how was it.
I am too broke for therapy.
i think only superficial problems can be solved in therapy that Chad/Stacy has.
no therapy for my face it seems.
I'm one of the few in this forum who has a positive opinion on thERapy.

The next thing I need to say is that there is no therapy for your face. If you have a big flaw, such as a cleft palate, you should seek plastic surgery.

If your face can't be fixed, like those Chernobyl babies, born with severe deformities, burn victims, etc. then thERapy can help you COPE with the fact that you got this bad hand dealt, and now you've gotta live and die with a terrible face.

The thERapy I go to is psychodynamic or psychoanalysis, but the most important factor of success in thERapy is to find a thERapist who is neither a foid nor a hopelessly bluepilled cuck. And the second most important factor is to develop rapport and confidence in the therapist as a person who is there to HELP you, not an adversary.
 
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I can understand that therapy can work for people who had traumatic events happen to them but that's about it. Talking about traumatic events can alleviate the pain.

But therapy can't help you if you're on the autism spectrum or if you're ugly. Which is what causes inceldom mostly in the first place.
 
just take all the advice soypist give and do the opposite
forgive your enemy normies? nope hate them and never forget and forgive
be a good person? nope no one was good to me so fuck everyone
based make sense.
 
Therapy is a jewish scam. A profession full of narcissistic overpaid foids and jews.

The premise is that a persons problems can be solved by adjusting your mindset. It doesn't take a genius to see that this is against all laws of (human) nature.
man, social science study is scam and should be banned from serious academia so foid would get less worthless degree and flood market with nonsense cognitive psychology degrees.
 
No therapy for your birthplace , height and genetics . Its Like saying to a cockroach that It can Be a Lion someday.

Absolute and utter Gaslight thats what this " Is .

if therapy doesn't work on me then they will make something from their made-up science that I have some neurological disorder that is not fit into foids persoynality detector.
 
I can confirm that therapy is nonsense.

I know that nothing I say will convince you because this is so deep, but everything everyone above me said is true.

People are liars. Therapy is a scam. Medications ruin your brain and give you side effects. Psychiatry/therapy are eugenics. Never trust them, please.
I think therapy drugs are fentanyl that is legal.
 
Ask them if they know any therapist who provide service for anonymous users over encrypted online communication paid with crypto, and they go nuts telling how unethical and illegal that is and that you must be registered under state authorities :feelshaha:
basically Libertard legalcel
 
Therapy is a jewish scam. A profession full of narcissistic overpaid foids and jews.

The premise is that a persons problems can be solved by adjusting your mindset. It doesn't take a genius to see that this is against all laws of (human) nature.
 
I can confirm that therapy is nonsense.

I know that nothing I say will convince you because this is so deep, but everything everyone above me said is true.

People are liars. Therapy is a scam. Medications ruin your brain and give you side effects. Psychiatry/therapy are eugenics. Never trust them, please.
Are those your wallet addresses in your description
 
Are those your wallet addresses in your description
Yes. Please send me money so that I can stop being so poor. I'm legit struggling, struggling to pay rent, have to work 7 days a week, my car is now making weird noises. I am actually on the edge of collapse lmao
 
I can confirm that therapy is nonsense.

I know that nothing I say will convince you because this is so deep, but everything everyone above me said is true.

People are liars. Therapy is a scam. Medications ruin your brain and give you side effects. Psychiatry/therapy are eugenics. Never trust them, please.
No one sent you money unfortunately :feelskek: :cryfeels::cryfeels:. Incels are always suffering
 
No one sent you money unfortunately :feelskek: :cryfeels::cryfeels:. Incels are always suffering
:(

I expected that to happen, but like idk, maybe some rich anon will send me some crypto he can't sell off legally idk worth a shot... kek
 
:(

I expected that to happen, but like idk, maybe some rich anon will send me some crypto he can't sell off legally idk worth a shot... kek
No bitcoin wallet for your face. Unfortunately I'm a brokie as well :cryfeels:
 
No bitcoin wallet for your face. Unfortunately I'm a brokie as well :cryfeels:
Funny thing is I was mining all of these coins in 2014 and kept the wallets, I just never understood it fully. It's such a disgrace what has happened to my life. I could have easily been rich because I'm a smart and good person who's interested in tech.... but I was so disadvantaged that I couldn't get the ball rolling.

Fuck this world
 
Funny thing is I was mining all of these coins in 2014 and kept the wallets, I just never understood it fully. It's such a disgrace what has happened to my life. I could have easily been rich because I'm a smart and good person who's interested in tech.... but I was so disadvantaged that I couldn't get the ball rolling.

Fuck this world
What happened sounds like a sad story. Mining BTC in 2014, you could've been a millionaire
 
What happened sounds like a sad story. Mining BTC in 2014, you could've been a millionaire
I know, I was mining everything, DOGE, etc. I still have all of the wallets.

Basically, I have an evil family and never knew that money is all that matters. I was stuck in the mindset of fiat and wanting to get bonds and gold and shit, and saving into a savings account for 'passive income' basically no one cared enough to tell me what reality is like. I didn't think much of Bitcoin etc. I just thought it was a form of money that would be the future, I never thought it would go up.

Also, I couldn't use energy because my family are cockroaches who will complain about any energy usage. Basically they're narcissists who just like to sit around and complain like tards. To this day. If I try to do something useful they complain. This is why I'm no contact with them, living on my own.
 
I'm one of the few in this forum who has a positive opinion on thERapy.

The next thing I need to say is that there is no therapy for your face. If you have a big flaw, such as a cleft palate, you should seek plastic surgery.

If your face can't be fixed, like those Chernobyl babies, born with severe deformities, burn victims, etc. then thERapy can help you COPE with the fact that you got this bad hand dealt, and now you've gotta live and die with a terrible face.

The thERapy I go to is psychodynamic or psychoanalysis, but the most important factor of success in thERapy is to find a thERapist who is neither a foid nor a hopelessly bluepilled cuck. And the second most important factor is to develop rapport and confidence in the therapist as a person who is there to HELP you, not an adversary.
That's based and Chico Bioca's pilled.
 
Still, therapy simply doesn't seem right to me. To pay a person to hear you and shit? Come on men fought literal wars in the last decade and didn't became puny sissies then. If therapy works it only does so for WOMEN who also are firm believers of horoscope, crystals and etc

For a guy to go for therapy is a joke bad in taste. We are made to deal with our own problems, not to get counseling by someone who probably would NEVER experience what most here have.

I also saw the typical therapist in Brazil. They're almost always from somewhat wealthy (but not rich) families, almost all women and men who go in that carrer tend to be tall and have good looks. There's no fucking way they get what incels go throw. I'm somewhat privileged by being white and having a "normal" face and being able to pass as NT most of the time (as long as I don't speak too much) despite not being tall I would never judge or reduce the pain of others. To think someone who were born with even more advantages would be able to relate is retarded and anyone who believes this is a complete ignorant and fool
 
Still, therapy simply doesn't seem right to me. To pay a person to hear you and shit? Come on men fought literal wars in the last decade and didn't became puny sissies then. If therapy works it only does so for WOMEN who also are firm believers of horoscope, crystals and etc

For a guy to go for therapy is a joke bad in taste. We are made to deal with our own problems, not to get counseling by someone who probably would NEVER experience what most here have.

I also saw the typical therapist in Brazil. They're almost always from somewhat wealthy (but not rich) families, almost all women and men who go in that carrer tend to be tall and have good looks. There's no fucking way they get what incels go throw. I'm somewhat privileged by being white and having a "normal" face and being able to pass as NT most of the time (as long as I don't speak too much) despite not being tall I would never judge or reduce the pain of others. To think someone who were born with even more advantages would be able to relate is retarded and anyone who believes this is a complete ignorant and fool
I've had an incel / nearcel therapist... mid-40s never had a girlfriend. Short, black, balding, bluepilled.

He KNOWS what inceldom is like. But he couldn't help me nor himself due to being bluepilled. Personally, he practiced the "personality" cope: hoped someday some foid would see value in his personality. He tried to sell me that, but I changed therapist.

My current one is more realistic about life and its prospects for autistic failures such as myself.
 
I've had an incel / nearcel therapist... mid-40s never had a girlfriend. Short, black, balding, bluepilled.

He KNOWS what inceldom is like. But he couldn't help me nor himself due to being bluepilled. Personally, he practiced the "personality" cope: hoped someday some foid would see value in his personality. He tried to sell me that, but I changed therapist.

My current one is more realistic about life and its prospects for autistic failures such as myself.
What helped me years prior (when I didn't even knew inceldom was a thing) was take some inputs on accepting stuff as they are and not try to change it by force. I somewhat apply it today to most things, I don't think society will change by force. I think that's why we should keep this area clean of personal attacks (I've been harassed several times despite being a new member) and from IT trolls that create bait topics defending violent actions against women children and bluepills etc.

Then we can get at least positive attention from people and maybe a dialogue may start from that

People believe incels are loose cannons because of ER and alek but 99,99% just want to have normal lives with social interactions and maybe love. An incel saying they won't like social interactions (which is a biological human need, along with sex) sounds like some African bony dude saying he doesn't need food or water. Social interactions are one of the cornerstones of happiness, that's why I recommend escorting for those who can do it because it satisfies both sex AND social interaction (albeit little) with a woman (DONT do with trannies btw they're disgusting anyway)

Since you live in brazil you can have that easily, legally and even cheap. In short: Vá comer uma puta meu amigo.
 
whenever blackpill is posted on social media normies are ready with classic reply on attacking the person saying it rather than attacking the argument.
so, they take the morally high ground and say that.
"I hope you get the help you need".
"go to therapy".
"seek help".

and avoid the counter argument.
sometimes they say 'when you are arguing with pig the pig will make you come to its level and beat with experience and that's why they say it'.
so, if anyone of you been to therapy share how was it.
I am too broke for therapy.
i think only superficial problems can be solved in therapy that Chad/Stacy has.
no therapy for my face it seems.
GO TO THERAPY, FIX YOURSELF GET HELP BLA BLA BLA PLEAE STFU AND STOP!!!!! :lasereyes:
THERAPY JUST ASSIMILATES YOU BACK INTO SOCIETY AS A COG! BUT A MISFITTED COG WILL ALWAYS FALL OUT NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU STUFF IT BACK INTO THE MACHINE!
JUST ADMIT THE TRUTH THAT SOCIETY HATES THE DIFFERENT AND NORMANS LOVE TO STAMP THEIR FOOT DOWN ON US
 
I tried therapy.

Women are narcissistic psychopaths and men therapists get destroyed by realising the truth about women and having a similar backstory.
 

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