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Blackpill The “women naturally want Chads” argument is the biggest cope in incel circles.
Women live in tutorial mode now, it's not the Paleolithic when starvation and being mauled by a wild animal was just around the corner. They're just as picky, and with survival needs mostly out of the way what they want are the most attractive males.
Their need for attractive males is caused by beauty standards and a feminist culture promoting male models for even the most obese women.
The study by the anthropologist I mentioned specifically talked about physical strength. That trait of males isn’t always “necessary” for female survival.
Bone structure is strength and has been shown to be a telltale sign of things like a strong immune system, prehistoric human hunting involved a great deal of long distance running which means prettyboy gracile spearchuckers who can chase an animal until exhaustion are in a good position along with bulky robust strong Chads.
You are either a retard or baiting
Proof? Any studies?
Sexual selection has always been important. Look at how blue eyes spread.
blue eyes were caused by a mutation
Yes, and they spread everywhere simply because they're attractive. Blue eyed guys were GigaChads.
Google something like "facial attractiveness immune system" and you'll instantly get a to of articles and studies. No matter how socially constructed you think modern beauty standards might be, they became what they are and not something else for a reason. People can't do blood tests and genetic tests on the opposite sex, the best way of gauging the health of a potential mate is seeing if they look the part. Being tall, not stunted and having well-developed bone structure (development not fucked by disease or malnutrition in childhood) are good signs of male reproductive fitness, just like wide hips and nice tits are for women.
From one individual 10,000-12,000 years ago to hundreds of millions of people, sounds pretty successful to me, especially when you consider the countless mutations that didn't make it.
But isn’t it about eye area according to your view?
The same could be said about the human race. One ape that looked like a human fucked all the female apes and humans resulted today. It’s a gradual process. It doesn’t mean he was attractive or desirable just because of his eye color. Most women went for men with brown eyes.
Of course eye area is more important, but the reason for this is because "good eyes" are well-protected eyes, with good support and vertically narrow so as to not get damaged easily. Humans are visual animals so a blind or half-blind human is at a great disadvantage.
The reason I emphasize blue eyes is because they offer NO clear advantage. They don't indicate strength like height and frame, they don't indicate low genetic mutation like facial symmetry, they simply look good and nothing else. Most "good looks" have an evolutionary reason behind them but preference for blue eyes are aesthetic only. A blue-eyed Chad beats a brown-eyed Chad, all else being equal.
So you believe women mated with men with blue eyes just because they looked good?
Wasn’t it a gradual process like the evolution of humans?
Natural selection is based off two factors: survival and mate attraction
Things are the way they are now precisely because of the high standards of life. Now that basically everyone outside of the third world survives through puberty, survival skills are not necessary. Mate attraction is now the more important trait, which is why females want chad.
You might aswell say that finding 10/10 European models attractive is a social construct, it 100% based in nature. The olny difference beetween us and foids is that most of us have the logical ability to realize that we cant have giga stacies so se happily settle for our looksmatch.
>Even in prehistoric times Chads rose to the top by physically proving themselves, which is when women were wired to find them attractive, then came a time were arranged marriages were how people reproduced and this is why incels exist, and since arranged marriages dont happend anymore women are can fulfill there desire of riding chad dick like they were wired to do.
I know you're a septembercel but even you should be able to understand this laymans explanation.
>Even in prehistoric times Chads rose to the top by physically proving themselves, which is when women were wired to find them attractive, then came a time were arranged marriages were how people reproduced and this is why incels exist, and since arranged marriages dont happend anymore women are can fulfill there desire of riding chad dick like they were wired to do.
I know you're a septembercel but even you should be able to understand this laymans explanation.
Like, this is a cool theory and all, but I'm ugly and I have no resources so...
Pretty boys are just chads that don't workout.
perceived fighting/survival success is 1:1 with SMV.
things like height, bideltoid, wrists, shoulder:hip ratio, brick skull, wide zygos (high fwhr), projecting brow ridge, vertically narrow eyes, etc all affect perceived fighting success. there are some other largely irelevant things like Norwood and dick size that matter these days as a matter of circumstance (global SMP, contraception, overall wayyyyy more men in the "tribe" so foids can be picky), but overall, no they don't matter to survival and wouldn't matter one bit in the jungle
if by "chad", you mean pretty boy MM, then you're right, women don't want chad. they want the man that can kill other men effortlessly and can't be killed easily by other men.
its the reason why gymcelling works even on a crap frame. frauds high T, frauds PERCEIVED fighting success.. even tho foids know its frauded dimorphism built in the gym (same reason an uggo with makeup will still make your dick hard even though you know better than that. fraud zygos, narrow nose bridge, etc.. all signal high estrogen bone development and fertility)
things like height, bideltoid, wrists, shoulder:hip ratio, brick skull, wide zygos (high fwhr), projecting brow ridge, vertically narrow eyes, etc all affect perceived fighting success. there are some other largely irelevant things like Norwood and dick size that matter these days as a matter of circumstance (global SMP, contraception, overall wayyyyy more men in the "tribe" so foids can be picky), but overall, no they don't matter to survival and wouldn't matter one bit in the jungle
if by "chad", you mean pretty boy MM, then you're right, women don't want chad. they want the man that can kill other men effortlessly and can't be killed easily by other men.
its the reason why gymcelling works even on a crap frame. frauds high T, frauds PERCEIVED fighting success.. even tho foids know its frauded dimorphism built in the gym (same reason an uggo with makeup will still make your dick hard even though you know better than that. fraud zygos, narrow nose bridge, etc.. all signal high estrogen bone development and fertility)
Ive been on this world for 32 years. Ive seen things.
Face does matter a lot, more than it used to.
Face does matter a lot, more than it used to.
Both men and women find aesthetics important in choosing a mate. Men even moreso.
The difference is women will choose being an alpha's #755, rather than Bob Butterface's #1. Men will fuck every woman that lets them; they'll just do it with more gusto to beautiful women.
Look, I don't know why handsome and pretty faces are important - but they are. Don't deny the truth right in front of you. Do you see lots of beautiful girls with ugly guys?
Girls' physical preferences are exacting, and they're spoiled for choices. They control the sexual market place.
The difference is women will choose being an alpha's #755, rather than Bob Butterface's #1. Men will fuck every woman that lets them; they'll just do it with more gusto to beautiful women.
Look, I don't know why handsome and pretty faces are important - but they are. Don't deny the truth right in front of you. Do you see lots of beautiful girls with ugly guys?
Girls' physical preferences are exacting, and they're spoiled for choices. They control the sexual market place.
Modern society is completely not natural.
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That's where you are wrong.
I’m talking about physicality and physical strength. Yes, you might have a better immune system but the anthrop. talked about “physical strength” in competitiveness.
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Chad's usually have better strength too. If your face is properly developed it means you have a good hormonal profile, good immune system and that you cam take punches to the face better.
In a battle an ogrecel may land some hits on the Chad's face, but it won't cause much damage due to his bones, whereas when the Chad punches the recessed ogrecel he can break his eye socket and hit the eyes way easier.
Debatable. Masculine Chads who work at the gym daily get best by incel looking MMA fighters all the time.
Not just when life is "tolerable" but also when they're depending on feminism to brainwash cucks into orbiting them and getting cucked by them when they hit the wall in their 40's. Without those artificial elements femoids would settle for their looksmatches. Thank goodness sexbots and the spreading of the blackpill will even the playing field more.
Women naturally want men with strong bones, strong bones are a sign of high T and strength. Height, frame and face are all important.
Women want a man with a strong jaw, chin, cheekbones, browridge, orbitals, and overall skull mass. This has nothing to do with crazy beauty standards or whatever, it's what women naturally want, a high T strong men. If a man has all of that he will not be ugly or have a bad eye area. A good eye area is the result of good bones.
Prettyboys male models like Chico have facial aesthetics but it doesn't matter much as they are not sought after as a protector but rather as a child that needs to be protected, it wakes up women's motherly instincts. That, and also society pressure women into thinking that guys like that are attractive. Chico would still lose his girl if a natural strong-boned robust Chad showed up.
Women want a man with a strong jaw, chin, cheekbones, browridge, orbitals, and overall skull mass. This has nothing to do with crazy beauty standards or whatever, it's what women naturally want, a high T strong men. If a man has all of that he will not be ugly or have a bad eye area. A good eye area is the result of good bones.
Prettyboys male models like Chico have facial aesthetics but it doesn't matter much as they are not sought after as a protector but rather as a child that needs to be protected, it wakes up women's motherly instincts. That, and also society pressure women into thinking that guys like that are attractive. Chico would still lose his girl if a natural strong-boned robust Chad showed up.
Society needs to shame foids and tell them to settle for their looksmatches, and shame cucks by telling them not to marry or commit to old used whores.
Our biology hasn't changed. I really do think people act much the same they would in any situation, artificial or not.
It wasn't this hypergamous 100 years ago.
OP, you're a retard. In our modern age, in 2018, men and women want to gratify their desires and passions, and there is nothing more passionate in the human world than to be pleased with a partner's physical attractiveness.
Women WANT to lust after a sexy Chad, because lust feels very good, it gratifies you inside, and because Chad stimulates women WAY more sexually than an ugly ass incel.
This thread is evidence enough that your thesis is autistic: https://incels.is/threads/women-orgasm-with-good-looking-men.68133/#post-1272245
In 2018, LOOKS ARE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL that matters. In -10000000 A.D., the toughest guy had the mates, for obvious survival reasons.
Also, how the hell did you farm 345 posts in 2 days? Wtf?
Women WANT to lust after a sexy Chad, because lust feels very good, it gratifies you inside, and because Chad stimulates women WAY more sexually than an ugly ass incel.
This thread is evidence enough that your thesis is autistic: https://incels.is/threads/women-orgasm-with-good-looking-men.68133/#post-1272245
In 2018, LOOKS ARE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL that matters. In -10000000 A.D., the toughest guy had the mates, for obvious survival reasons.
Also, how the hell did you farm 345 posts in 2 days? Wtf?
You can say the same thing about men. A hot jb would stimulate most men more than a 40 year old used whore, but most men are willing to fuck both since we have less options. Femoids are the same but they're too spoiled with choices they have thanks to femoidism and cuck orbiters, so they behave extremely picky. If a man had the same options as a typical femoid, he would be picky as well and only want to fuck the young model looking foids. Go to thailand and femoid's standards are way lower because they have less options than western whores.
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That was because women were being controlled by men. Biologically they still wanted Chad's cum.
I've actually read monogamy was created to give low-class men families, thus dissuading them from acting erratically violent (because they had nothing to lose). And now with the ever more frequent ER's, it's easy to see that may be true!
Men would still want to fuck hot models, but if they are married to their looksmatch that would make them happy enough to be in a long term relationship with them. Sure a chad ca make a femoid more happy, but the point is she must settle for her looksmatch like men, and stop being entitled cunts.
That's right, if we impose rules on them they may be happier in the long-term. But they're still biologically wired to want Chad, like how a kid only wants to eat candy.
The difference between women's and men's promiscuity is that Chad is always available to women, whereas you've got to be lucky as hell to get any shot at Stacy.
Men can also cheat with stacy-lite prostitutes. In a more equal society at least men will be getting a lot more sex than being cucked entirely like they are now.
I don't disagree! But the genie's out of the bottle, so I don't think that way of life is coming back.
The tables will turn on women after the sex-bot revolution. ^_^
Also blackpills waking up normies and cucks, male birth control, and artificial wombs
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Because looks strongly correlate ON AVERAGE (read: not always) with intelligence and health/genetic fitness. There's a reason Chads are often tall AND have a good face. Stop coping bro.
cope.
Women are attracted to masculine faces. https://www.theguardian.com/technol...ur-sexuality-politics-surveillance-paul-lewis
If science can tell if you're gay by your face, women can tell you're attractive, and it isn't a social construct. It's just become amplified by the fact women no longer need men's resources or protection (directly) and are sexually liberated and have choice.
Women are attracted to masculine faces. https://www.theguardian.com/technol...ur-sexuality-politics-surveillance-paul-lewis
If science can tell if you're gay by your face, women can tell you're attractive, and it isn't a social construct. It's just become amplified by the fact women no longer need men's resources or protection (directly) and are sexually liberated and have choice.
If you live in resource scarce times, then ability to acquire resources is obviously going to become an attractive trait. But in modern society, no-one is at risk of starving or dying of exposure, so other factors have replaced them i.e. pure genetic quality.
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They don't need to.Just a little ripped and done.Ugly guys and standard looking need to compensate in good body.But standard looking guys have a chance with their level.Ugly guys with a good body doesn't meant they will get more attention.Talking about hypocrisy,an ugly guy with a nice body will be quickly pointed by people's finger for the idea of HE JUST HAVE A GOOD BODY TO COMPENSATE HIS FACE,wich is true.Then,if the chad step up a level in body looks,the other guy is finished.And he was already finished from the beginning.Pretty boys are just chads that don't workout.
I saw this and i lived it.When you are not good looking enought,people won't tolerate you the same way as attractive guys or standard.Even those "standard aiming to pretty" people.
This is not victimization.They are facts.
Yes,there are exceptions.You can't be handsome but still have great personality,sense of humour and be smart.But that doesn't mean you win.If a hot guy with the same good qualities appear,you are already on the line.
Most of girls will pick the hot guy.
they will think THEY ARE ALMOST THE SAME,WHY I WOULD STICK TO THE NOT GOOD LOOKING GUY,IF THE OTHER ARE LIKELY IN SOCIAL SKILLS AND HOT?
But you know what? even a hot guy can get laid just because his status.
After all,a hot guy get interest for his looks.Is all about interest.Everything is just an ilussion.All that GAME OF GET LAID is just an ilussion.We are the same.We want to be with a nice girl,pretty,smart etc.You see? first the looks,then the intelligence.
WE ALL HAVE PREFERENCES.
Same the girls.They want an attractive guy,charming and funny etc etc
But in conclusion,we all know looks is temporary.We are humans and that will never change.Looks older people.Older people with money looks for young girls,and those girls are just for the money.
To be single is the best thing.If you dont get laid,i wont tell to go with whores.I do believe we could get laid by a girl we feel comfortable with,but is very hard.
Another last fact: Does ugly womans want to be with ugly guys and viceversa? OF COURSE NOT!!! does a ugly woman or man hate her/his ugliness??? OF COURSE YES FOR ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT CREATE!!!!
We need to stop believing we can be with that special someone.For some people is not even possible to be with someone.
Yup. This isn’t prehistoric times
I'm glad there is now a line through your name
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