Serious The ultimate best argument for incels

[WastedPotential]

And I NEVER see it talked about enough, but it is the best argument and most simplest to understand of anything.

Even a retard can understand it.


Just google "Male to female ratio" or "human sex ratio"
Or "male surplus"

Basically every country in the world has this, not to mention if you look at the population pyramid. the male surplus is even greater in younger cohorts and sure there might be a female surplus in older cohorts. But who the fuck cares about grannies. most of us are dead by then anyway.


The reason this argument is THE BEST and the most SIMPLE to understand is because you can't deny the FACT that there are simply more men for every women. so it is INEVITABLE that some men die alone. It is literally IMPOSSIBLE for every single man to have a female partner at the same time.
(But what about faggots? females are more bisexual/gay than men, so you're actually just steelmanning)


In conclusion. Male inceldom is INEVITABLE because of BIOLOGY --> Human sex ratio.
Done, period, easy, you win every debate claim that incels don't exist. Fuck you they do exist.

 

[Animecel2D]

By numbers there will always be incels. The leftovers and the abandoned. The math is cruel but absolute

 

[WastedPotential]

By numbers there will always be incels. The leftovers and the abandoned. The math is cruel but absolute

China probably has the worst because of one child policy and parent's preference for boys;

China has a severe male surplus of approximately 30 to 35 million extra men over women, which is the largest national gender imbalance in modern history. [1, 2, 3]

Key Causes

• The One-Child Policy (1979–2015): Decades of strict population control sharply restricted family sizes, forcing parents to choose.

 

[goyim next door]

China probably has the worst because of one child policy and parent's preference for boys;

China has a severe male surplus of approximately 30 to 35 million extra men over women, which is the largest national gender imbalance in modern history. [1, 2, 3]

Key Causes

• The One-Child Policy (1979–2015): Decades of strict population control sharply restricted family sizes, forcing parents to choose.

The hapa Sons born from gook whores will soon join their chinkcel brothers into an ERmageddon One day.

 

[Animecel2D]

The hapa Sons born from gook whores will soon join their chinkcel brothers into an ERmageddon One day.

Hapapocalypse is coming

 

[TooSomething]

We need breeding farms to breed foids for incels.

 

[WastedPotential]

We need breeding farms to breed foids for incels.

how do u force 2 x chromosome tho

or do u abort the male babies

 

[TooSomething]

how do u force 2 x chromosome tho

or do u abort the male babies

Well, idk.

 

[nihilum]

How does that relate with inceldom / never having sex with a girl or never having a girlfriend?

or never reproducing.

Why does that insignificant gender ratio even matter? It’s very insignificant especially in the west even in young people. (Practically non existent it doesn’t affect anything in practice)

But also do you realize that a woman can have relationships and sex with more than one man in her lifetime?

One woman can reproduce with more than one man. She can have one child with one man and another child with a different man.

Girls have sex with more than one man.

 

[WastedPotential]

How does that relate with inceldom / never having sex with a girl or never having a girlfriend?

You can pay a prostitute to have sex as an incel, and sure there are services to pay women to be your 'girlfriend' but that's not real and giga expensive.

You also can't pay a woman to breed her/ reproduce, let alone as an incel.

or never reproducing.

Why does that insignificant gender ratio even matter? It’s very insignificant especially in the west even in young people. (Practically non existent it doesn’t affect anything in practice)

no it's not. again in the younger cohorts the male surplus is bigger, but it doesn't matter whether it's 1 000 001 men vs 1 000 000 women
or 2 000 000 men vs 1 000 000. Every surplus man is proof that some men are destined to die alone. There's not 'someone' out there for everyone. the numbers simply don't add up.

True monogamy is impossible by the numbers and what's worse is that the top men engage in polygamy even further limiting access to women for the bottom tier men.

But also do you realize that a woman can have relationships and sex with more than one man in her lifetime?

Ofcourse, but inceldom is more than just about sex. Again you can pay prostitutes.
If you're able to convince a woman to have sex with you without paying, sure you'e not an incel.
But you also gain access to a relationship, comapnionship, et cetera. which is what alot of incels also find important. Because otherwise, prositution would solve the misery of inceldom.

It's about being wanted, being loved, a woman wanting to be in a relationship with you unconditionally (even if that unconditionality is superficial, because it's mostly driven by physical attraciton)

One woman can reproduce with more than one man. She can have one child with one man and another child with a different man.

Girls have sex with more than one man.

Yea, but she can only be a mother with either 1 man or no man.
Children don't grow up with parents engaging in polygamy and have a healthy relationship.

Basically all parents are in monogamous relationships.
So if a mother had children with multiple men, depending on which men she's dating currently. One man is left out at least.

 

[nihilum]

You can pay a prostitute to have sex as an incel, and sure there are services to pay women to be your 'girlfriend' but that's not real and giga expensive.

You also can't pay a woman to breed her/ reproduce, let alone as an incel.

no it's not. again in the younger cohorts the male surplus is bigger, but it doesn't matter whether it's 1 000 001 men vs 1 000 000 women
or 2 000 000 men vs 1 000 000. Every surplus man is proof that some men are destined to die alone. There's not 'someone' out there for everyone. the numbers simply don't add up.

True monogamy is impossible by the numbers and what's worse is that the top men engage in polygamy even further limiting access to women for the bottom tier men.

Ofcourse, but inceldom is more than just about sex. Again you can pay prostitutes.
If you're able to convince a woman to have sex with you without paying, sure you'e not an incel.
But you also gain access to a relationship, comapnionship, et cetera. which is what alot of incels also find important. Because otherwise, prositution would solve the misery of inceldom.

It's about being wanted, being loved, a woman wanting to be in a relationship with you unconditionally (even if that unconditionality is superficial, because it's mostly driven by physical attraciton)

Yea, but she can only be a mother with either 1 man or no man.
Children don't grow up with parents engaging in polygamy and have a healthy relationship.

Basically all parents are in monogamous relationships.
So if a mother had children with multiple men, depending on which men she's dating currently. One man is left out at least.

Question 1: If a woman has non-paid/free sex with you, but she has also had sex with, say, 10 other men, have you lost your incel status?

Question 2: If a woman is in an actual relationship with you (even temporary) but she has also been in relationships with, say, 5 other men, have you lost your incel status?

Do you think an incel can or cannot have that?

Is the insignificant gender ratio to blame for that?

 

[WastedPotential]

Question 1: If a woman has non-paid/free sex with you, but she has also had sex with, say, 10 other men, have you lost your incel status?

Question 2: If a woman is in an actual relationship with you (even temporary) but she has also been in relationships with, say, 5 other men, have you lost your incel status?

1: yes
2: depends on the relationship and her attitude towards you

 

[nihilum]

1: yes
2: depends on the relationship and her attitude towards you

Both = yes

Also, a woman can reproduce with more than one man.

As I said, she can have one child with one man and another child with a different man. So, is the gender ratio really the problem here even in reproduction?

 

[nihilum]

1: yes
2: depends on the relationship and her attitude towards you

so gender ratio is not the problem here at all.

a girl can have sex/relationship/reproduction with way more than one men in her lifetime.

so the man can have free sex / actual relationship / and reproduction therefore incel status revoked

 

[WastedPotential]

so gender ratio is not the problem here at all.

a girl can have sex/relationship/reproduction with way more than one men in her lifetime.

so the man can have free sex / actual relationship / and reproduction therefore incel status revoked

my point is that you often see online something along the lines of 'there's someone out there for everybody'

A fantasy where everyone gets to have a monogamous relationship with their 'true one' but the numbers simply don't add up.
Male surplus ensures some men simply are destined to die alone and not find their 'true one' even if they were in a relationship before.

 

[nihilum]

my point is that you often see online something along the lines of 'there's someone out there for everybody'

A fantasy where everyone gets to have a monogamous relationship with their 'true one' but the numbers simply don't add up.
Male surplus ensures some men simply are destined to die alone and not find their 'true one' even if they were in a relationship before.

there should be someone out there for everybody. sex, relationship, reproduction even with monogamy.

Also, do you know that a woman can have 10 monogamous relationships with, let's say, 10 different men at different times? That is still monogamous, as there is no cheating involved at the same time.

Dating 10 men at different times is still monogamous. Since there is no cheating involved, it's just one partner at a time.

Monogamy just means you are exclusive with one person at a time. It doesn't mean you have to stay with that person for your entire life.

you can have relationships with different people during your whole life (yes till the end of your life)

and also reproduce and have sex as long as you can biologically can speaking as a man

Trust me, the gender ratio (which again, practically changes nothing at the very least in any meaningful way) is not responsible for your inceldom lol.

your autism/mental illness/neurodivergence and kinda your looks too are to blame for your inceldom.

also the increasing standards due to the (((social media))) imo

social media = unrealistic standards

(((social media))) promote unrealistic standards
by creating a constant stream of highly curated, idealized imagery and metrics that make it seem as though better options are always just a swipe away. foids get so much attention and validation too.


foids should just lower their standards. i think simps just artificially inflate foids standards. also gender equality/feminism.

anyway dont blame the "gender ratio" for your inceldom

muh gender ratio

like a girl can't have sex, relationships and reproduction with way more than one men in their lifetime lol

 

[nihilum]

And I NEVER see it talked about enough, but it is the best argument and most simplest to understand of anything.

Even a retard can understand it.


Just google "Male to female ratio" or "human sex ratio"
Or "male surplus"

Basically every country in the world has this, not to mention if you look at the population pyramid. the male surplus is even greater in younger cohorts and sure there might be a female surplus in older cohorts. But who the fuck cares about grannies. most of us are dead by then anyway.


The reason this argument is THE BEST and the most SIMPLE to understand is because you can't deny the FACT that there are simply more men for every women. so it is INEVITABLE that some men die alone. It is literally IMPOSSIBLE for every single man to have a female partner at the same time.
(But what about faggots? females are more bisexual/gay than men, so you're actually just steelmanning)


In conclusion. Male inceldom is INEVITABLE because of BIOLOGY --> Human sex ratio.
Done, period, easy, you win every debate claim that incels don't exist. Fuck you they do exist.

least autistic theory on incels.is

 

[nihilum]

We need breeding farms to breed foids for incels.

I want to breed a foid during my lifetime.

 

[nihilum]

And I NEVER see it talked about enough, but it is the best argument and most simplest to understand of anything.

Even a retard can understand it.


Just google "Male to female ratio" or "human sex ratio"
Or "male surplus"

Basically every country in the world has this, not to mention if you look at the population pyramid. the male surplus is even greater in younger cohorts and sure there might be a female surplus in older cohorts. But who the fuck cares about grannies. most of us are dead by then anyway.


The reason this argument is THE BEST and the most SIMPLE to understand is because you can't deny the FACT that there are simply more men for every women. so it is INEVITABLE that some men die alone. It is literally IMPOSSIBLE for every single man to have a female partner at the same time.
(But what about faggots? females are more bisexual/gay than men, so you're actually just steelmanning)


In conclusion. Male inceldom is INEVITABLE because of BIOLOGY --> Human sex ratio.
Done, period, easy, you win every debate claim that incels don't exist. Fuck you they do exist.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRucY0y3Xns

 

[nihilum]

@WastedPotential after realising that the gender ratio is to blame for his inceldom


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRJQJcy3f8w

 

[WastedPotential]

there should be someone out there for everybody. sex, relationship, reproduction even with monogamy.

Also, do you know that a woman can have 10 monogamous relationships with, let's say, 10 different men at different times? That is still monogamous, as there is no cheating involved at the same time.

Dating 10 men at different times is still monogamous. Since there is no cheating involved, it's just one partner at a time.

Monogamy just means you are exclusive with one person at a time. It doesn't mean you have to stay with that person for your entire life.

you can have relationships with different people during your whole life (yes till the end of your life)

Yes but in monogamy, there is still someone left out. even if they had a relationship before.
Plus foids don't whore themselves out to lower tier men anyway. they are hypergamous and share the top tier men.
So even if there was a female surplus. men would still be left out, but I digress

and also reproduce and have sex as long as you can biologically can speaking as a man

Trust me, the gender ratio (which again, practically changes nothing at the very least in any meaningful way) is not responsible for your inceldom lol.

your autism/mental illness/neurodivergence and kinda your looks too are to blame for your inceldom.

also the increasing standards due to the (((social media))) imo

social media = unrealistic standards

(((social media))) promote unrealistic standards
by creating a constant stream of highly curated, idealized imagery and metrics that make it seem as though better options are always just a swipe away. foids get so much attention and validation too.


foids should just lower their standards. i think simps just artificially inflate foids standards. also gender equality/feminism.

anyway dont blame the "gender ratio" for your inceldom

muh gender ratio

like a girl can't have sex, relationships and reproduction with way more than one men in their lifetime lol

i'm not exclusively blaming gender ratio for my inceldom. i'm simply pointing out that a male surplus by numbers alone disproofs the argument "there's someone out there for everybody" because there isn't.
And yes I'm aware foids can have multiple partners over the course of their life, but at any given moment there will still be men left out.
and some of them will die alone. There's no such thing as 'the one' for men. Because there simply aren't enough women for every single man.

How can you call a whore 'the one' if she's a whore. that's an oxymoron.

In reality ofcourse women are hypergamous; meaning they fight over a small group of top tier men, so a far larger amount of men get left out and a part of that population that's left out are incels. as a result.

 

[nihilum]

Yes but in monogamy, there is still someone left out. even if they had a relationship before.

that someone "left out" can go have another relationship.

 

[WastedPotential]

that someone "left out" can go have another relationship.

No, if there are 101 men and 100 women.

there will be 100 couples and that 1 men that's left out can't have another relationship because literally every woman is taken.

 

[WastedPotential]

No, if there are 101 men and 100 women.

there will be 100 couples and that 1 men that's left out can't have another relationship because literally every woman is taken.

And you could argue that women can cheat and be in a relationship with multiple men. but then it's not monogamous

 

[nihilum]

"there's someone out there for everybody" because there isn't.

that means that you can technically find someone for sex, relationship, reproduction

 

[nihilum]

And yes I'm aware foids can have multiple partners over the course of their life, but at any given moment there will still be men left out.

the point is that technically any man should be able to have sex, relationships and reproduction

 

[nihilum]

There's no such thing as 'the one' for men.

someone can argue that applies to a large number of foids too in practice

 

[nihilum]

and some of them will die alone.

but how if you can go have relationships during your whole life

 

[WastedPotential]

the point is that technically any man should be able to have sex, relationships and reproduction

I agree they should be able to, but not every man can.
I'd be willing to concede you'd need a few more conditions added to a male surplus for incels to exist.
However the existence of a male surplus is an accelerator/multiplier of inceldom at the very least.

One condition I would add is hypergamy, which is a given anyway.

 

[nihilum]

How can you call a whore 'the one' if she's a whore. that's an oxymoron.

do you really need to call any foid "the one" forever?

i though the point is sex, relationships and reproduction and feel wanted generally

 

[nihilum]

In reality ofcourse women are hypergamous; meaning they fight over a small group of top tier men

thats the only problem actually

 

[DjentlemanDuke]

I do agree tbh. There are more men than women in this world.

 

[WastedPotential]

someone can argue that applies to a large number of foids too in practice

Sure, however foids have easier access to any relationship, sex reproduction than men because of the male surplus and because foids are in high demand. They're just greedy for the top tier men which I would consider a far less troublesome problem to have than the problem for a man to find any sex/relationship etc. at all.

 

[nihilum]

No, if there are 101 men and 100 women.

there will be 100 couples and that 1 men that's left out can't have another relationship because literally every woman is taken.

but even like that

you should technically during your lifetime have many relationships, sex and reproduction.

yes even that 1 man that you refer.

 

[WastedPotential]

do you really need to call any foid "the one" forever?

No you don't, but i'm trying to dismantle the fantasy that there is such a thing as 'the one' in the first place. which some normies argue

i though the point is sex, relationships and reproduction and feel wanted generally

it is.

 

[nihilum]

I agree they should be able to, but not every man can.

but technically every man should be able to have at least some relationships, sex and reproduction during his lifetime.

even that 1 out of 100 men that you refer

 

[WastedPotential]

but even like that

you should technically during your lifetime have many relationships, sex and reproduction.

yes even that 1 man that you refer.

but not at the same time.

again i'm willing to concede to the point that the male surplus is a multiplier of inceldom.

 

[nihilum]

No you don't, but i'm trying to dismantle the fantasy that there is such a thing as 'the one' in the first place. which some normies argue

it is.

if i find a girlfriend tomorrow i will call her "the one"

hopefully she will also call me "the one"

that doesnt mean that we will be together for literally forever

feeling the one is romantically speaking at that moment dude

not forever.

 

[nihilum]

but not at the same time.

again i'm willing to concede to the point that the male surplus is a multiplier of inceldom.

it doesnt have to be at the same time dude jfl

my point is that technically all men should be able to have some sex, some reproductions and some relationships ( will even dare to say a significant amount of them) during their lifetime if we take only the numbers on account.

gender ratio is not 99-1

its almost half half (almost 50-50)

there would be a problem if the gender ratio was like 80-20 90-10 or something jfl

 

[nihilum]

They're just greedy for the top tier men.

thats what we need to stop.

 

[nihilum]

women have easier access to any relationship

not necessary

chad/chadlite or even htn won't settle.

 

[nihilum]

foids have easier access to any relationship

actually they have easier access to sex with chad/chadlite/htn

but chad/chadlite/htn wont settle for relationship

 

[WastedPotential]

if i find a girlfriend tomorrow i will call her "the one"

hopefully she will also call me "the one"

that doesnt mean that we will be together for literally forever

feeling the one is romantically speaking at that moment dude

not forever.

Well sure, but after you breakup they're not "the one" anymore.

And that is inevitable in a male surplus that at least one couple will break up and the woman finds a different man if we're going by the assumption that all these men get a relationship sex etc. soemtime in their life

 

[nihilum]

foids are in high demand

in (((social media)))

 

[nihilum]

a man to find any sex/relationship etc. at all.

every man should technically be able to find a significant amount of that during his life according to my argument which you have to admit is correct

 

[nihilum]

Well sure, but after you breakup they're not "the one" anymore.

And that is inevitable in a male surplus that at least one couple will break up and the woman finds a different man if we're going by the assumption that all these men get a relationship sex etc. soemtime in their life

i will find another "the one" then technically speaking

as she will do the same some time

 

[WastedPotential]

it doesnt have to be at the same time dude jfl

my point is that technically all men should be able to have some sex, some reproductions and some relationships ( will even dare to say a significant amount of them) during their lifetime if we take only the numbers on account.

gender ratio is not 99-1

its almost half half (almost 50-50)

there would be a problem if the gender ratio was like 80-20 90-10 or something jfl

Well it does matter if it's at the same time, because for some amount of time atleast one man will be left out.

But again like i stated previously I would consider a male surplus a multiplier of inceldom.
Because it creates more competition for women by simple supply and demand. That competition element makes high tier men more available/common for foids. thus creating more incels in the lower tier men.

 

[nihilum]

Well sure, but after you breakup they're not "the one" anymore.

And that is inevitable in a male surplus that at least one couple will break up and the woman finds a different man if we're going by the assumption that all these men get a relationship sex etc. soemtime in their life

I will not be her "the one"

and she will not be my "the one"

we will find different persons technically during our lifetime

maybe she will find sex more easy (from chads). but i dont think a relationship.

 

[WastedPotential]

not necessary

chad/chadlite or even htn won't settle.

actually they have easier access to sex with chad/chadlite/htn

but chad/chadlite/htn wont settle for relationship

Yeah but I would rather have that 'problem' than not having access to anyone at all.

Foids are entitled for only wanting higher tier men

 

[nihilum]

Foids are entitled for only wanting higher tier men

that i agree 100 percent