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Discussion The Two Worst Extremes on .is - "Everyone is Incel" Vs "I am the only Truecel"

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Firstly you have the "Basically all guys are incel nowadays"/"All sub 8 men are incels in 2025"

These guys are either one of two things, fakecels trying to justify themselves as actual incels or actual incels that are coping not wanting to believe that they are in the minority and really are in the very bottom percentage of guys for being incels. I can understand and agree with the claim that most men fall into the "nearcel" category in that while they aren't completely touch deprived like we are they end up getting cheated on, divorceraped and in general not given respect at all by their girlfriends. There's also been an increase in sexlessness in modern times among men, a lot of guys while not being incels end up on long dry streaks and I'd consider these guys to be nearcels. Plenty of recent studies can attest to this.

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But claiming that the majority of men are completely touchless incels in the same way we are is ridiculous.

And then you have pretty much the exact opposite of this, instead of thinking that most guys are incels they go to the other extreme and gatekeep inceldom to a ridiculous level. "Anyone who mogs me even slightly in any area is a fakecel" "I am the only truecel/I am the biggest truecel on .is". These types of users are always extremely annoying to interact with, constantly dismissing other users problems viewing themselves as the main character and the blueprint for inceldom. They'll often fixate on certain traits and claim "If you are X then you can't be incel" especially with things like race and while I agree that the racepill is real I dislike terms like JBW or JBB because they imply that all you need to get laid is to be part of a certain race with no looks threshold required to be met which is very obviously false. The worst part is that so many of these types of users get exposed either as complete and utter larpers or at least that they were greatly exaggerating how low SMV their SMV is.
 
Self-reported data is worthless. The real numbers are way higher.
 
Firstly you have the "Basically all guys are incel nowadays"/"All sub 8 men are incels in 2025"

These guys are either one of two things, fakecels trying to justify themselves as actual incels or actual incels that are coping not wanting to believe that they are in the minority and really are in the very bottom percentage of guys for being incels. I can understand and agree with the claim that most men fall into the "nearcel" category in that while they aren't completely touch deprived like we are they end up getting cheated on, divorceraped and in general not given respect at all by their girlfriends. There's also been an increase in sexlessness in modern times among men, a lot of guys while not being incels end up on long dry streaks and I'd consider these guys to be nearcels. Plenty of recent studies can attest to this.

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But claiming that the majority of men are completely touchless incels in the same way we are is ridiculous.

And then you have pretty much the exact opposite of this, instead of thinking that most guys are incels they go to the other extreme and gatekeep inceldom to a ridiculous level. "Anyone who mogs me even slightly in any area is a fakecel" "I am the only truecel/I am the biggest truecel on .is". These types of users are always extremely annoying to interact with, constantly dismissing other users problems viewing themselves as the main character and the blueprint for inceldom. They'll often fixate on certain traits and claim "If you are X then you can't be incel" especially with things like race and while I agree that the racepill is real I dislike terms like JBW or JBB because they imply that all you need to get laid is to be part of a certain race with no looks threshold required to be met which is very obviously false. The worst part is that so many of these types of users get exposed either as complete and utter larpers or at least that they were greatly exaggerating how low SMV their SMV is.
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Although I'd say that the former is more dangerous as I see more of them among prominent users than average, meanwhile "I am the only truecel" types are easy to dismiss (often trolls as well). We can't let the definition of incel become too vague but at the same time we already know what counts as an incel and the common experiences all incels share.
 
Agreed. Inceldom is fairly common but nowhere near as common as most here act like it is. I only know one incel
 
Self-reported data is worthless. The real numbers are way higher.
I can't tell if you're trying to argue the "most guys are incels" point or not. Or if this is just a comment on how I posted a sexlessness study and yes I agree that the numbers are likely higher than what was reported though there is no way to prove by how much. Though if you are claiming the former, what evidence do you have in favour of that?
 
Agreed. Inceldom is fairly common but nowhere near as common as most here act like it is. I only know one incel
Correct, we're a minority basically everywhere.
 
Sexlessness means nothing to me, it's none never or sexhaver.
 
Agreed. Inceldom is fairly common but nowhere near as common as most here act like it is. I only know one incel
I hate going off of anecdotal evidence but there's no real way to prove what percentage of a population are incels or not unless you're watching every person at all times to verify if they've actually had sex or not but if I'm going on my own experiences, even when I was in school it felt like I was in the small minority for being completely KHHV. Maybe the fact that I live rurally has something to do with it but I saw guys that a lot of people on here would say are incel tier that had girlfriends. I get that those are likely shitty relationships under the surface but by even getting into one in the first place they lifemog me.
 
I can't tell if you're trying to argue the "most guys are incels" point or not. Or if this is just a comment on how I posted a sexlessness study and yes I agree that the numbers are likely higher than what was reported though there is no way to prove by how much. Though if you are claiming the former, what evidence do you have in favour of that?
I can see 20% of under 30 year olds being incel.
 
I hate going off of anecdotal evidence but there's no real way to prove what percentage of a population are incels or not unless you're watching every person at all times to verify if they've actually had sex or not but if I'm going on my own experiences, even when I was in school it felt like I was in the small minority for being completely KHHV. Maybe the fact that I live rurally has something to do with it but I saw guys that a lot of people on here would say are incel tier that had girlfriends. I get that those are likely shitty relationships under the surface but by even getting into one in the first place they lifemog me.
This. Also many guys in looksmatched relationships don’t have it bad under the surface either, because I have seen how much care the women had for them sometimes

Incels here cope too hard
 
Good post. I agree, both of these extremes are irritating, and I hate seeing both of them. Incels will forever be the minority. It's not that foids' standards aren't rising, or that males on average are more lonely now-a-days. No, rather, it's just that the vast majority of men are eternal simps and will never go against foids. They refuse to acknowledge the problem and will continue being red-pilled or blue-pilled cucks forevermore.

We incels will forever be the small amount of men that go against this, and instead build our own communities.
 
Is frustrating seing fags call everything a "incel" when in reality they even don't know what does it stands for and just repeat it without the knowdledge
 
This. Also many guys in looksmatched relationships don’t have it bad under the surface either, because I have seen how much care the women had for them sometimes

Incels here cope too hard
There's a middle ground. I know that normie lives aren't all sunshine and rainbows but I also am not gonna cope that I'm dodging a bullet or something for being an incel kek.
 
There's a middle ground. I know that normie lives aren't all sunshine and rainbows but I also am not gonna cope that I'm dodging a bullet or something for being an incel kek.
Same
 
Is frustrating seing fags call everything a "incel" when in reality they even don't know what does it stands for and just repeat it without the knowdledge
I once had a guy claim to me that anyone who hasn't had sex in 6 months is an incel lmao.
 
I'm curious how old are they?
Most are boomers. Sub5 boomers didn’t seem to have much trouble at all to get a wife who loves them. Often see the same with genx and millennials but sub5 genz always seems to be single. The younger the generation the worse the foid standards are
 
we'll have enough numbers to build the nation of Inceldia soon.
 
I know both and neither of them is me
 
Most incels are aspies and aspies aren't exactly common.

Actually not most, uh... it's 40% or 30%
I'm not sure exactly what percentage of incels are autists but no one can deny that there is a very high correlation. Though I feel like the number of autists on this forum might be a bit overrepresented compared to what the wider incel population is like because of it's relative obscurity and the fact that this forum somewhat gatekeeps itself from more NT normie users.
 
I once had a guy claim to me that anyone who hasn't had sex in 6 months is an incel lmao.
It’s not a total incel but you gotta admit that’s rough. 6 months is a long stretch of time, and if you’re struggling that much, anything you get is a drop in the ocean of sexlessness.

Think about it. What would you give to be able to fuck twice a year? Not much right, because you know how overall it’s a drop in the ocean. But if you got it everyday instead you’d do a lot for it. I don’t think nearcels should be here but they should have their own forum as it’s still way closer to sexlessness than a good sex life
 
It’s not a total incel but you gotta admit that’s rough. 6 months is a long stretch of time, and if you’re struggling that much, anything you get is a drop in the ocean of sexlessness.

Think about it. What would you give to be able to fuck twice a year? Not much right, because you know how overall it’s a drop in the ocean. But if you got it everyday instead you’d do a lot for it. I don’t think nearcels should be here but they should have their own forum as it’s still way closer to sexlessness than a good sex life
Yeah it's definitely far from an ideal life but it's hard to put any energy towards feeling bad for them when we have it much worse. Glad that this forum is pure incel only cause I can't stand braggers and while there does be the odd one here and there in the forums current state it would be far worse if nearcels were allowed.
 
Yeah it's definitely far from an ideal life but it's hard to put any energy towards feeling bad for them when we have it much worse. Glad that this forum is pure incel only cause I can't stand braggers and while there does be the odd one here and there in the forums current state it would be far worse if nearcels were allowed.
Agreed. But it’s undeniable that nearcels are way closer to our experience than they are to a good sex life
 
Based.

The "I'm the only truecel" guys are by far the most extreme (and moronic). It's very obvious that men struggle a lot in dating so it's not a stretch to say what you said: most men are nearcels or failed normies and will only get regular sex in relationships. Sometimes even that doesn't happen and they end up in dead bedroom relationships.

Tbh, if someone didn't experience teen love he's a failed normie for life.
 

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