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The True Rate of Inceldom in Young Men

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There are some here who believe the 80/20 rule refers to the proportion of incels in the overall population. This is completely wrong. It refers to the distribution of women to men in online dating, night clubs or other environments where women can afford to be very choosy. Then what is the incel rate in the overall population? Here are some figures from Pew Research. Of course this is only for the US, but it's probably similar for other westoid countries.

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From the first graph we can see that 51% of men under 30 are single compared to 32% of women, a 19% gap.

According to the survey, around 2/3rds of young single men are looking for a partner, therefore at least 34% are incel. The remaining 1/3rd of young single men are either incels who've given up, volcels, or chads who prefer causal sex to dating. Since no more than 20% of them could be chads, and assuming that all volcels are incels in denial, then up to another 13% of young men may be incel. So the incel rate of young men is 34-47%.

Note that this survey was taken about six months before the pandemic. Increased usage of online dating social media (both of which inflates the standards of women) has most likely worsened the trend of rising incel rates.

Another trend is the increasing rates of women pursuing higher education and careers, while more young men are becoming university drop-outs, lowly wageslaves and NEETs. There are multiple statistics showing that women in their 20s are out-earning men.

There is also the known fact that young women are more likely to date older men than young men are to date younger women. Due to decreasing birthrates, and older men earning more, men born after 1990 will increasingly struggle to find younger women to date, and will have a larger pool of older men to compete with. Even if young men opt to go for older women, the survey shows that few older women are single and those who are are unlikley to be looking for a partner.

As such men born after 1990 will be much more likely to remain incel into middle-age than the survey suggests. I dub these men the Blackpill Generation.

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I wouldn't consider all of them necessarily incel, just because they are single doesn't mean they haven't had sex or a relationship in the past.
There are multiple statistics showing that women in their 20s are out-earning men.
Based data male. If it were socially acceptable I would tell this to everybody who whines about muh pay gap. It's also easier for foids to get jobs than men
 
also there's a problem with this too
Due to decreasing birthrates
a lot of western countries are subsidizing population growth with immigration. so i don't think this tells the full story
 
Nice write up. Lots of promising data here.

Those are pretty high numbers :what:

Women are able to last into old age without sex while incels and normie men will rope without getting it
 
I wouldn't consider all of them necessarily incel, just because they are single doesn't mean they haven't had sex or a relationship in the past.
I didn't think the definition of incel is to be a virgin. I thought it meant unable to have sexual relations past a certain point. There are many guys who had a girlfriend as a teenager then could never get another one after that.

also there's a problem with this too

a lot of western countries are subsidizing population growth with immigration. so i don't think this tells the full story
The population graph there includes immigrants although probably not illegals. But immigrants are much more likely to be male and to form insular communities anyway, so it only makes things worse. I can tell living in bumfuck nowhere where there are few immigrants, that the population decline is real.
 
I didn't think the definition of incel is to be a virgin. I thought it meant unable to have sexual relations past a certain point. There are many guys who had a girlfriend as a teenager then could never get another one after that.
Incel means not having had the ability at any point to have sex voluntarily for free if the term was loose a normie who got divorced and had sex could claim inceldom
 
There are far more incels than most people think.
 
I didn't think the definition of incel is to be a virgin. I thought it meant unable to have sexual relations past a certain point. There are many guys who had a girlfriend as a teenager then could never get another one after that.

They don’t like that here but personally I could care less. I know that is a real thing too. I welcome fakecel brothers like this.

Men who experience that are an indication that we are on the verge of the first incel/hikki generation where we end up like japan
 
They don’t like that here but personally I could care less. I know that is a real thing too. I welcome fakecel brothers like this.

Men who experience that are an indication that we are on the verge of the first incel/hikki generation where we end up like japan
I've spoken with many "fakecels" who haven't had a gf in years and they seem as broken and hopeless as us. Maybe we can't fully relate with them but we've ended up in the same hole regardless.
 
I've spoken with many "fakecels" who haven't had a gf in years and they seem as broken and hopeless as us. Maybe we can't fully relate with them but we've ended up in the same hole regardless.

It is a good indicator that women are the problem and society enabling their true nature is the problem. They should be welcomed here if they want to join
 
I wouldn't consider all of them necessarily incel, just because they are single doesn't mean they haven't had sex or a relationship in the past.

Based data male. If it were socially acceptable I would tell this to everybody who whines about muh pay gap. It's also easier for foids to get jobs than men
Pay gap never existed to begin with, for starters. Now it does though, except women are out earning men. They never had it worse and now actually have it better, get still want to cling to victim status that never existed now that they’re on top.
 
Women would rather call themselves femcel and abstain dating than date their looksmatch
 
giga-cope, it's more than 80%
By what definition?. Really the 47% I came to here is for incels + nearcels. By the virgin + escortel definition it can't be more than 20%.
 
By what definition?. Really the 47% I came to here is for incels + nearcels. By the virgin + escortel definition it can't be more than 20%.
without counting the betabuxxx cucks is 80%, and even if I'm wrong and it's 47% is still a lot

women have it at 0%
 
My estimates are: about 50% of men 18 to 20 are still virgins, 21 to 25 the number really start dropping as late bloomers and fakecels mostly ascend around these ages so about 25% of men are virgins in this bracket, 25 to 30: is now getting into trucel territory you are either very unattractive or socially retarded about 5 to 10% of men are still virgins in this bracket trucels only escorts and prostitution can hell in most cases. Finally, 30+ truest of cels. Oldcels, wizards and truly hopeless men it is absolutely over if you are still a virgin in this age bracket only escorts can save you that’s it. About 1% to 2% of men are still virgin at this age very rare
 

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