The Russian communist revolution was actually about ethnic cleansing

[ethniccel1]

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Russian bank is run by a German, as well as the state-owned Russian company oil for the extraction of all Russian oil is run by a German.

Dude those things are run by Germans only because Russians dont have the trained professionals to do those jobs. You will find only Germans in the oil fields doing the very technical jobs to keep oil flowing not because Russians love Germans but because they simply dont have local Russians who can do the job

 

[ethniccel1]

A Russian man finds himself at the bottom of the Russian social hierarchy.

So again the Russian has returned to the bottom of society just as it was before the revolution

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Dude those things are run by Germans only because Russians dont have the trained professionals to do those jobs. You will find only Germans in the oil fields doing the very technical jobs to keep oil flowing not because Russians love Germans but because they simply dont have local Russians who can do the job

Perhaps this is so, but the fact remains that Russia is an empire on the contrary, where it is unprofitable to be an imperial ethnic group, where Russians occupy the lowest place in the hierarchy. This can be compared to China, when they were conquered by the Mongols or Manchus, where the Mongols or Manchus were the elite, and the Han were nobody.

 

[ethniccel1]

Perhaps this is so, but the fact remains that Russia is an empire on the contrary, where it is unprofitable to be an imperial ethnic group, where Russians occupy the lowest place in the hierarchy. This can be compared to China, when they were conquered by the Mongols or Manchus, where the Mongols or Manchus were the elite, and the Han were nobody.

I think you are confusing the lower class Russian with all Russians. From what I see the elites in Putins government are Russians. The generals are Russians, high ranking military are Russian, high ranking civil servants are Russians.

I chadfish Russian roasties online and these women go on holiday to Turkey, Gorgia. How do they get money to do this? And they are working and even single , they even drive cars and they are ethnic Russian.

Thats why I think you are confucing low class alcoholic common Russian with the managerial higher class Russian.

 

[Chudpreet]

No, the Russians were just a resource, the struggle was between whether they would be ruled by the Germans (Romanovs or as they should be called Holstein-Hawthorps) and the Jews, the real rulers of Russia to this day

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

The former defense minister was a Tuvan, the current Russian defense minister is already a Jew.

I think you are confusing the lower class Russian with all Russians. From what I see the elites in Putins government are Russians. The generals are Russians, high ranking military are Russian, high ranking civil servants are Russians.

I chadfish Russian roasties online and these women go on holiday to Turkey, Gorgia. How do they get money to do this? And they are working and even single , they even drive cars and they are ethnic Russian.

Thats why I think you are confucing low class alcoholic common Russian with the managerial higher class Russian.

 

[ethniccel1]

The former defense minister was a Tuvan, the current Russian defense minister is already a Jew.

what ethncity does this foid look like?

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

what ethncity does this foid look like?


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Maybe a Tatar or some kind of crossbreed.

 

[ethniccel1]

Maybe a Tatar or some kind of crossbreed.

what kind crossbreed?

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

what kind crossbreed?

I don't know, Russia is a multinational country and many people here have the genes of different peoples.

 

[ethniccel1]

I don't know, Russia is a multinational country and many people here have the genes of different peoples.

If Russians are at the bottom of society then why did they even waste their time supporting the revolution? Their land was taken away, their family sent to fight and die, they are ow dying away and will be minority, they today are druggies and alcoholics.

Or is a average Russian low IQ?

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

If Russians are at the bottom of society then why did they even waste their time supporting the revolution? Their land was taken away, their family sent to fight and die, they are ow dying away and will be minority, they today are druggies and alcoholics.

Or is a average Russian low IQ?

They are just poor plus alcoholism, residents of large cities, especially Moscow and St. Petersburg are relatively developed people. The Russians simply believed the Bolsheviks that they really stood up for the peasants and workers, but in fact they were slaves and remained, only changed their master from a German to a Jew.

 

[ethniccel1]

They are just poor plus alcoholism, residents of large cities, especially Moscow and St. Petersburg are relatively developed people. The Russians simply believed the Bolsheviks that they really stood up for the peasants and workers, but in fact they were slaves and remained, only changed their master from a German to a Jew.

which master was more kind and compassionate to the Russian? The German or Jew?

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

which master was more kind and compassionate to the Russian? The German or Jew?

Both were pretty shitty, but I think the Russian Empire had some potential to become something like Britain, an ordinary constitutional parliamentary monarchy. The golden age of Russian culture fell during the time of the Russian Empire: Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, whose books are read by many people in other countries, Tchaikovsky, whose music is recognized as a classic.

 

[NorthernWind]

Another propaganda thread. Russians weren't the bottom of the society. Russian peasants ( as well as Georgian, Latvian, Ukrainian etc ) were at the bottom of the society.
Many in the nobility as well as scientists and city population were of ethnic Russian origin.
While for example in the Vilnius ( historical and modern capital of Lithuania ) only 2-3% were of Lithuanian origin in 1897.
You talk about Baltic German, Polish, Lithuanian nobility but when there were none - in the tzarist Russia in XVI century, Russians managed to crush Lithuanian army in 1500 and took almost third of Lithuanian territory and destroyed Livonia ( ruled by Baltic Germans ) in the same century.
Also Russians lived in the Baltics for centuries.
And for example many specialists in the Soviet Union were ethnic Russians.
There were also enmity between Latvians and Germans in Latvia.
Or I have read books about Germans in Lithuania and Russians treated Germans better than Lithuanians treated Germans during WW2.

Some niggers just masturbate to their anti-Russian sentiment without even knowing history of the region.

In fact small Russian Pskov republic was able to successfully withstand against Livonian knights for more than 200 years when Latvian and Estonian lands were quite easily conquered by German knights. Mostly on its own and occasionally with the help of other Russian principalities.
But keep believing in the subhuman Russians...

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Another propaganda thread. Russians weren't the bottom of the society. Russian peasants ( as well as Georgian, Latvian, Ukrainian etc ) were at the bottom of the society.
Many in the nobility as well as scientists and city population were of ethnic Russian origin.
While for example in the Vilnius ( historical and modern capital of Lithuania ) only 2-3% were of Lithuanian origin in 1897.
You talk about Baltic German, Polish, Lithuanian nobility but when there were none - in the tzarist Russia in XVI century, Russians managed to crush Lithuanian army in 1500 and took almost third of Lithuanian territory and destroyed Livonia ( ruled by Baltic Germans ) in the same century.
Also Russians lived in the Baltics for centuries.
And for example many specialists in the Soviet Union were ethnic Russians.
There were also enmity between Latvians and Germans in Latvia.
Or I have read books about Germans in Lithuania and Russians treated Germans better than Lithuanians treated Germans during WW2.

Some niggers just masturbate to their anti-Russian sentiment without even knowing history of the region.

In fact small Russian Pskov republic was able to successfully withstand against Livonian knights for more than 200 years when Latvian and Estonian lands were quite easily conquered by German knights. Mostly on its own and occasionally with the help of other Russian principalities.
But keep believing in the subhuman Russians...

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Was the Soviet occupation of Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia from 1940 to 1991 legal?

 

[NorthernWind]

Was the Soviet occupation of Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia from 1940 to 1991 legal?

Not really. Was the Japanese occupation of Korea and Taiwan legal?
No but it's realpolitik and on a world's stage might often makes right.
I'm not going to post anti-Japanese comments under jewtube videos because Japanese occupied Korea 114 years ago and protest in front of Japanese embassy because of 'comfort women ' issue...

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Not really. Was the Japanese occupation of Korea and Taiwan legal?
No but it's realpolitik and on a world's stage might often makes right.
I'm not going to post anti-Japanese comments under jewtube videos because Japanese occupied Korea 114 years ago and protest in front of Japanese embassy because of 'comfort women ' issue...

Why are you such a Russian nationalist and defending Russia so much? Do you really consider Russia to be something worthy within the framework of European history?

 

[NorthernWind]

Why are you such a Russian nationalist and defending Russia so much? Do you really consider Russia to be something worthy within the framework of European history?

Jfl.
I'm not defending Russia. I defend objectivity. It's just laughable when someone posts that Russia depends on German specialists.
For example, Russia is building nuclear plants in many countries. Do this nigger really think that all these plants are designed by German specialists ?

When it comes to history, Russia played an important role in European history from XVI century and especially from XVIII century.
Do you really think that country which created it's own empire after defeating the world-class power ( Sweden ) and playing one of the leading roles in defeating Napoleon and shaping XIX century wasn't important?

Some posters here remind me Ukrainian nationalists who try to portray Moscow as some backward and unimportant non-European city from which modern Russia ( 'Muscovy' ) evolved.
Ok, so why then an important medieval European road - Royal Highway - Via Regia started from Moscow?

And also:
"Omg, Russia is so weak. Russian army is so pathetic. Almost on a Mozambique level ".

"Sweden and Finland need to join NATO quickly. NATO should prepare for a potential Russian aggression ".

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Jfl.
I'm not defending Russia. I defend objectivity. It's just laughable when someone posts that Russia depends on German specialists.
For example, Russia is building nuclear plants in many countries. Do this nigger really think that all these plants are designed by German specialists ?

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When it comes to history, Russia played an important role in European history from XVI century and especially from XVIII century.
Do you really think that country which created it's own empire after defeating the world-class power ( Sweden ) and playing one of the leading roles in defeating Napoleon and shaping XIX century wasn't important?

Some posters here remind me Ukrainian nationalists who try to portray Moscow as some backward and unimportant non-European city from which modern Russia ( 'Muscovy' ) evolved.
Ok, so why then an important medieval European road - Royal Highway - Via Regia started from Moscow?

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And also:
"Omg, Russia is so weak. Russian army is so pathetic. Almost on a Mozambique level ".

"Sweden and Finland need to join NATO quickly. NATO should prepare for a potential Russian aggression ".

What's wrong with Finland joining NATO? If this is the only way to protect yourself from Russia. Russia is wiping its ass with its treaties. The USSR has already attacked Finland three times in 1939 and took 10% of Finland's territory.

 

[ethniccel1]

Another propaganda thread. Russians weren't the bottom of the society. Russian peasants ( as well as Georgian, Latvian, Ukrainian etc ) were at the bottom of the society.
Many in the nobility as well as scientists and city population were of ethnic Russian origin.
While for example in the Vilnius ( historical and modern capital of Lithuania ) only 2-3% were of Lithuanian origin in 1897.
You talk about Baltic German, Polish, Lithuanian nobility but when there were none - in the tzarist Russia in XVI century, Russians managed to crush Lithuanian army in 1500 and took almost third of Lithuanian territory and destroyed Livonia ( ruled by Baltic Germans ) in the same century.
Also Russians lived in the Baltics for centuries.
And for example many specialists in the Soviet Union were ethnic Russians.
There were also enmity between Latvians and Germans in Latvia.
Or I have read books about Germans in Lithuania and Russians treated Germans better than Lithuanians treated Germans during WW2.

Some niggers just masturbate to their anti-Russian sentiment without even knowing history of the region.

In fact small Russian Pskov republic was able to successfully withstand against Livonian knights for more than 200 years when Latvian and Estonian lands were quite easily conquered by German knights. Mostly on its own and occasionally with the help of other Russian principalities.
But keep believing in the subhuman Russians...

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I wrote that the revolution made Russians to become the elite classes instead of Polish or Germans, government admins,civil servants and blue collar managerial class . I never said Russians did not played an important role in history, its the other East Europeans here who said Russians are the bottom of society today. Infact i even siad its Russians who are responsible for thr revolution.

is it true that today the russian is bottom of society, below Chechnyans, Georgians, Tartars etc etc etc? Or is it not true?

 

[NorthernWind]

What's wrong with Finland joining NATO? If this is the only way to protect yourself from Russia. Russia is wiping its ass with its treaties. The USSR has already attacked Finland three times in 1939 and took 10% of Finland's territory.

If Russian army is so weak, why do you need to join NATO in the first place?
And I understand why Finland joined NATO. They have long border with Russia.
But why Sweden?

Also you mentioned Polish uprisings against Russia but why you don't mentioned Great Poland uprising (1848 ) against Prussia?

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

If Russian army is so weak, why do you need to join NATO in the first place?
And I understand why Finland joined NATO. They have long border with Russia.
But why Sweden?

Also you mentioned Polish uprisings against Russia but why you don't mentioned Great Poland uprising (1848 ) against Prussia?

I spoke about the Polish uprisings in the Russian Empire to explain the content of the Russian-Polish conflict in history.

 

[Based NaziCel]

politics copers on suicide watch

Actually, this is why I’m not a commie at all.Communism is just an utopian ideology that is all about sugar coating and bluepilling.It’s a jewish ideology that will never work irl.Actually, you can’t fight human nature and bring “equality” be it economic, racial or aesthetic (in our case) or other types of equality.Even if it would be possible, we would be just NPCs and that shit is also ugly

 

[NorthernWind]

I wrote that the revolution made Russians to become the elite classes instead of Polish or Germans, government admins,civil servants and blue collar managerial class . I never said Russians did not played an important role in history, its the other East Europeans here who said Russians are the bottom of society today. Infact i even siad its Russians who are responsible for thr revolution.

is it true that today the russian is bottom of society, below Chechnyans, Georgians, Tartars etc etc etc? Or is it not true?

There is no difference how etnhic Russians or Tatars are treated. Many non-ethnic Russians consider themselves rossiyane - Russians in the broader sense.
But some non ethnic-Russians still view themselves as oppressed.
As for Chechens... they act rude like Turk and Arab gangs in Germany. Not because they're allowed to by the law but because they're low IQ high T baboons who like to demonstrate their 'dominance'.
In Germany you also don't put in place some rude Arabs because of a differences in mentality.

As for Russian revolution. Some Russians supported it, some don't and fought against Bolsheviks.
There were many non-Russians amongst commies like Jews, Poles, Latvians.
So this goes against your premise that it was some sort of Russian uprising against German and Polish nobility.
Many Russian low-lives participated in the revolution but it was the same during French revolution or Paris commune in 1871 when French communists burned buildings in Paris and fought against French army, not the Prussian one.
Anyway, Revolution and civil war was chaotic time in Russian history where various forces clashed.
For example in Latvia Baltic Germans fought together with West Russian Volunteer Army against Bolsheviks and Latvian nationalists who were also fighting against Bolsheviks...

 

[Pravdoslav]

During the revolution, the Jews took power from the Germans. After the revolution, Russia became a donor for countries like Georgia and Uzbekistan. It never began for the Russians.

The picture illustrates the established hierarchy, which essentially has not changed since Soviet times (I couldn't find the attachment button). The translation contains a few errors. "Russian women are not allowed to defend themselves", "The Chekists can do whatever they want, and nothing will happen to them".
https://2ch.hk/test/src/28902/17294090327620.jpg

 

[ethniccel1]

There is no difference how etnhic Russians or Tatars are treated. Many non-ethnic Russians consider themselves rossiyane - Russians in the broader sense.
But some non ethnic-Russians still view themselves as oppressed.
As for Chechens... they act rude like Turk and Arab gangs in Germany. Not because they're allowed to by the law but because they're low IQ high T baboons who like to demonstrate their 'dominance'.
In Germany you also don't put in place some rude Arabs because of a differences in mentality.

As for Russian revolution. Some Russians supported it, some don't and fought against Bolsheviks.
There were many non-Russians amongst commies like Jews, Poles, Latvians.
So this goes against your premise that it was some sort of Russian uprising against German and Polish nobility.
Many Russian low-lives participated in the revolution but it was the same during French revolution or Paris commune in 1871 when French communists burned buildings in Paris and fought against French army, not the Prussian one.
Anyway, Revolution and civil war was chaotic time in Russian history where various forces clashed.
For example in Latvia Baltic Germans fought together with West Russian Volunteer Army against Bolsheviks and Latvian nationalists who were also fighting against Bolsheviks...

Okay I can agree that some Russians fought against the Bolsheviks, no problems, agreed.

But still what percentage of the entire Russian population fought against the Bolshevists? And were those Russians fighting against the Bolsheviks part of the power structure of the Poles, Latvians, Germans and maybe even paid mercenaries or maybe were they common Russians who decided to fight the Bolshevists.?

I am guessing that the majority of Russians supported the revolution. I will check it using AI but i am almost 100% certain I am correct that majority of Russians hated the Germans and supported the revolution

 

[NorthernWind]

Okay I can agree that some Russians fought against the Bolsheviks, no problems, agreed.

But still what percentage of the entire Russian population fought against the Bolshevists? And were those Russians fighting against the Bolsheviks part of the power structure of the Poles, Latvians, Germans and maybe even paid mercenaries or maybe were they common Russians who decided to fight the Bolshevists.?

I am guessing that the majority of Russians supported the revolution. I will check it using AI but i am almost 100% certain I am correct that majority of Russians hated the Germans and supported the revolution

Just think logically. If Russian revolution was anti-German in nature, then it would be supported by France and Britain who fought hard against the Germans on Western front.
Instead France and Britain were against Bolsheviks and there are solid opinions about German involvement in the Russian revolution.

And you have really naive views on Russian history if you believe that Russian nationalists and anti-communists would agree to be a part of the power structure of Poles, Latvians...
One of the White Russia leaders, general Denikin even blamed Poles for stopping operations against Bolsheviks when his army advanced from the south towards the Moscow.
Because Poles feared adherers of the 'Great Russia' more than they feared reds in power.

Also if you think that communism is alien to West Europeans take a look at one of the first proto-communism projects in human history - rebellion in Münster in 1534 when private property and money were abolished.
Even Soviets never banned the use of money...

 

[NorthernWind]

During the revolution, the Jews took power from the Germans. After the revolution, Russia became a donor for countries like Georgia and Uzbekistan. It never began for the Russians.

The picture illustrates the established hierarchy, which essentially has not changed since Soviet times (I couldn't find the attachment button). The translation contains a few errors. "Russian women are not allowed to defend themselves", "The Chekists can do whatever they want, and nothing will happen to them".
https://2ch.hk/test/src/28902/17294090327620.jpg

 

[Aegon Targaryen]

why you bullshitting me? Germans in Russia ? Didnt Staling chase the remaining Germans into Khazakstan ? And are you serious that the Russians are at the very bottom of the social heirachy?

Yeah Russians literally annihilated the Germans in Russia lmao.

What's left is larpers and race mixed ones.

 

[ethniccel1]

Yeah Russians literally annihilated the Germans in Russia lmao.

What's left is larpers and race mixed ones.

When did they annihilate the Germans? And which Russians were these that did it? Rich Russians or paesants?

 

[starcrapoo]

i always read that the russian revolution was successful because of WW1 and because of the fact that the russian monarch's were backwards as fuck. the communist revolutionaries managed to convince the poor russian peasants to kill their own monarchs (and obviously a lot of non-russian ethnics played their roles)

whereas communism didn't succeed in western europe because they were more liberal and did a better job helping their poor people (because of capitalism and colonialism).

anyways we live in a liberal world order now were fiat isn't tied to gold any more so the governments can just print more money to solve their social problems. or at least it allows the liberal governments to continually kick the can down the road until something calamitous eventually happens...

 

[Emba]

I like taters

 

[Vesuvius Pumpkin]

why do Polish hate Russians? Every Pole I speak to in person dont like Russia at all

propaganda

 

[ethniccel1]

propaganda

what propoganda? I said everyPolish i "TALK" to. Meaning real ordinary people not some television or newspaper

 

[Vesuvius Pumpkin]

what propoganda? I said everyPolish i "TALK" to. Meaning real ordinary people not some television or newspaper

they hate cause propaganda said that, if propaganda say love russia they will. same with russians, all of them hated bolsheviks in 1917, now they love bolsheviks

 

[ethniccel1]

they hate cause propaganda said that, if propaganda say love russia they will. same with russians, all of them hated bolsheviks in 1917, now they love bolsheviks

if every Russian hated Bolsheviks then how did they take power if nobody supported them?

 

[Vesuvius Pumpkin]

if every Russian hated Bolsheviks then how did they take power if nobody supported them?

shitskins, jews and churka seized power

 

[ethniccel1]

shitskins, jews and churka seized power

some few jews seized power against hundreds of millions of Ruskis? That means russians are low iq monkeys

 

[Vesuvius Pumpkin]

some few jews seized power against hundreds of millions of Ruskis? That means russians are low iq monkeys

russia was very weak after the war. literally anyone could come and instill in russians about communism and seize power

 

[ethniccel1]

russia was very weak after the war. literally anyone could come and instill in russians about communism and seize power

so Russians beieleved in communism in 1917?

 

[Vesuvius Pumpkin]

so Russians beieleved in communism in 1917?

no. they just wanted overthrow the government because of war and poverty

 

[ethniccel1]

no. they just wanted overthrow the government because of war and poverty

so they agreed to have communism to overthrow the government?

 

[Vesuvius Pumpkin]

so they agreed to have communism to overthrow the government?

they even didn't know what is communism

 

[ethniccel1]

they even didn't know what is communism

so they supported Lenin and Trosky to overthrow the Tzar?

 

[ethniccel1]

so they supported Lenin and Trosky to overthrow the Tzar?

@Vesuvius Pumpkin and?

 

[Subhuman Trucel]

I've heard that Stalin was planning to "Russify" the minority areas (Mainly the non slavic areas) by replacing them with ethnic Russians but he died to early. For example after the famine he encouraged Russian immigration to Kazakhstan and other central Asian republics so probably

 

[ethniccel1]

i always read that the russian revolution was successful because of WW1 and because of the fact that the russian monarch's were backwards as fuck. the communist revolutionaries managed to convince the poor russian peasants to kill their own monarchs (and obviously a lot of non-russian ethnics played their roles)

whereas communism didn't succeed in western europe because they were more liberal and did a better job helping their poor people (because of capitalism and colonialism).

anyways we live in a liberal world order now were fiat isn't tied to gold any more so the governments can just print more money to solve their social problems. or at least it allows the liberal governments to continually kick the can down the road until something calamitous eventually happens...

are you a Vietnamese cel?


View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvaELTAoJgf/

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

i always read that the russian revolution was successful because of WW1 and because of the fact that the russian monarch's were backwards as fuck. the communist revolutionaries managed to convince the poor russian peasants to kill their own monarchs (and obviously a lot of non-russian ethnics played their roles)

the paris commune also happened in a nation which was losing a war

in those conditions, people can be more open to radical uprisings like the bolsheviks. plus the nations tend to be a bit anarchic and open to civil unrest

but once peace is restored, most of the radical populism is abandoned or defeated

edit: also, the bolsheviks didn't really need to turn people against the monarchs, the monarchy was already overthrown by the constitutional assembly

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

the paris commune also happened in a nation which was losing a war

in those conditions, people can be more open to radical uprisings like the bolsheviks. plus the nations tend to be a bit anarchic and open to civil unrest

but once peace is restored, most of the radical populism is abandoned or defeated

edit: also, the bolsheviks didn't really need to turn people against the monarchs, the monarchy was already overthrown by the constitutional assembly

Yes, many people forget that the first revolution was bourgeois in February and in fact it was supported by the majority of generals and parliamentarians. But the February revolution also automatically granted amnesty to tens of thousands of political criminals who had been in prison before it. Lenin arrived in Russia literally as early as April 1917 and came into conflict with the provisional government, as Kerensky promised that the Russian Republic would continue to fulfill its duties to France and Britain during the First World War.