Blackpill The REAL Blackpill - The enemy is ISHTAR not human genes

[K9Otaku]

Or do you mean it somehow reprograms the brain to feel less pain? It can potentially alleviate it a little for some people, depending on how much delusion/hope that human is capable of. Is that what you mean?

Yes. Mostly.

But above all, religion is capable of relieving the psychological pain of being incel by making sense of it. Incel-aspies have always been the backbone of organized religions (priests, monks, yogis, lawyers, accountants, seers, shamans). We have to realize that and make the best of it.

This is our place in the universe. Our reason to exist.

 

[based_meme]

Seethe, dumbass. This means that this forum is starting to get smarter than you are. You should think of retiring. You will soon be obsolete.

Genetics don't matter by themselves. They matter insofar as they serve as a basis for culture. It is culture + genetics that matter. The Nazis failed to understand that and that is why they lost the war. Let us make sure that we incels do not make the same mistake.

You calling others a dumbass when you use an incel forum as a platform to proselytize your religion and reject scientific facts is the height of irony and clown world tier.

But feel free to keep jerking yourself off over this.

 

[ezio6]

Yes christian is blackpill

 

[lifefuel]

What is that book about exactly?

 

[K9Otaku]

... reject scientific facts

 

[K9Otaku]

What is that book about exactly?

It explains the rise of Ishtar religion and how it was beaten back by the Abrahamic religions. It is presented as a work of fiction because it is reconstructed history, but it is consistent with everything that is known about the period.

 

[based_meme]

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Just reject the black pill and reality theory.

I'm sure everyone here is eager to line up and blue pill and delude themselves into thinking it's not their height, face and frame that makes them unattractive bro, it's just the culture bro. We gotta change the culture and then all the subhuman genetics will magically become top tier bro.

 

[K9Otaku]

Just reject the black pill and reality theory.

I'm sure everyone here is eager to line up and blue pill and delude themselves into thinking it's not their height, face and frame that makes them unattractive bro, it's just the culture bro. We gotta change the culture and then all the subhuman genetics will magically become top tier bro.

You are such a narrow-minded idiot Ayatollah.

Of course it is our "height, face and frame" that makes us Incels right now. But it was not the case before. You can search history all you want. Men NEVER reported having trouble finding a mate because of those things. In the past, it was poverty, the lack of a title or ethnicity/religion that made it impossible for some to marry. Aesthetics was NEVER the reason for inceldom before.

So why the change? Why do we have this problem now? The only way to answer this question is to look at the history of culture and religion. These are the things that changed over the last 6000 years, not our genes.

Putting forward genetic theories to explain everything is something that appeals to the mediocre (the "midwits") because it sounds simple and it does not require much cultural background. This is why the Nazis were successful in pushing such theories. They were elected because the German midwits thought they understood "Jews genes bad. Untermensch bad". So yes, in order to be popular with a minuscule clique of ersatz-Chad midwits on .is, it makes sense to push "Wahmen genes bad. Foids bad". But then you have the same problem as the Nazis. If you don't want to go extinct after 13 years (1933-45) you need to start taking reality into account. And human reality is not about genes only. It is about genes+culture. And you need to know history. And you need to know philosophy. And you need to know religion. There is no shortcut.

The blackpill can only durably exist if it integrates the cultural dimension of the phenomena it observes.

 

[based_meme]

You are such a narrow-minded idiot Ayatollah.

Of course it is our "height, face and frame" that makes us Incels right now. But it was not the case before. You can search history all you want. Men NEVER reported having trouble finding a mate because of those things. In the past, it was poverty, the lack of a title or ethnicity/religion that made it impossible for some to marry. Aesthetics was NEVER the reason for inceldom before.

So why the change? Why do we have this problem now? The only way to answer this question is to look at the history of culture and religion. These are the things that changed over the last 6000 years, not our genes.

Putting forward genetic theories to explain everything is something that appeals to the mediocre (the "midwits") because it sounds simple and it does not require much cultural background. This is why the Nazis were successful in pushing such theories. They were elected because the German midwits thought they understood "Jews genes bad. Untermensch bad". So yes, in order to be popular with a minuscule clique of ersatz-Chad midwits on .is, it makes sense to push "Wahmen genes bad. Foids bad". But then you have the same problem as the Nazis. If you don't want to go extinct after 13 years (1933-45) you need to start taking reality into account. And human reality is not about genes only. It is about genes+culture. And you need to know history. And you need to know philosophy. And you need to know religion. There is no shortcut.

The blackpill can only durably exist if it integrates the cultural dimension of the phenomena it observes.

Whatever you say. Honk honk.

 

[Epedaphic]

Bruh this is way too much text. Need tl;drs

 

[K9Otaku]

Bruh this is way too much text. Need tl;drs

The OP is the TLDR

The long version is the book.

Are you ok with the OP?

A TLDR for the OP could be:

The only possibility for the Blackpill to thrive and have an impact is to acknowledge this heritage. In other words, The Blackpill has to be the "Fourth Testament" (if we count the Quran as the third).

But of course, it leaves out a lot of important things.

 

[Epedaphic]

The OP is the TLDR

The long version is the book.

Are you ok with the OP?

A TLDR for the OP could be:

The only possibility for the Blackpill to thrive and have an impact is to acknowledge this heritage. In other words, The Blackpill has to be the "Fourth Testament" (if we count the Quran as the third).

But of course, it leaves out a lot of important things.

Ok I see.

 

[K9Otaku]

Ok I see.

What exactly do you see?

 

[Linesnap99]

this will take me a week to read

 

[K9Otaku]

this will take me a week to read

Take your time. Worthwhile things take time

 

[Epedaphic]

What exactly do you see?

That the op is the tldr. I was referring to the pages upon pages of text that you posted in the thread that I couldn’t even get to the bottom of while on my phone, as the things that needed to be shortened or summarized. But now I see the op is quite concise and you put work into it.

 

[K9Otaku]

That the op is the tldr. I was referring to the pages upon pages of text that you posted in the thread that I couldn’t even get to the bottom of while on my phone, as the things that needed to be shortened or summarized. But now I see the op is quite concise and you put work into it.

All right. Let me know if you have other questions.

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

 

[Restart80]

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Over for marikcels

 

[solblue]

I agree insomuch that we wouldn’t be complaining about genes in a Christian society where monogamy is enforced, philanthropy is an obligation, and the Golden Rule is a requirement

 

[K9Otaku]

I agree insomuch that we wouldn’t be complaining about genes in a Christian society where monogamy is enforced, philanthropy is an obligation, and the Golden Rule is a requirement

Yes

 

[Crimson]

For the moment, most incels believe that the blackpill is about genes, bad foid genes which determine their bad behaviors.

This is WRONG. Genes are never bad. They just are. Genes evolved long before we had any notion of "right" or "wrong". They are a given that civilization must adapt to by suppressing certain (genetically determined) instincts and encouraging others.

All durable civilizations have suppressed human mate selection instincts because these instincts lead to a regression to hunter-gatherer behaviors. Ever since farming was invented, it has become impossible to follow our sexual instincts as is, both on the male and female side.

What we are fighting today with the BlackPill is more specific than our genes, it is a religious-cultural construct called ISHTAR WORSHIP, and which appeared almost exactly at the same time as civilization itself, 6000 years ago.

ISHTAR WORSHIP has been transformed over the ages to suit the tastes of the moment. Here are a few examples.
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ISHTAR WORSHIP has always been combated by Abrahamic religions:

1. Judaism: denunciation of Ashrah and Ashtoreth cult
2. Christianity: Rejection of the "Whore of Babylon"
3. Islam. Rejection of Al-Manat, Al-Uzzah and Allat.

All 3: Monogamy (anti-Chad policy) and imposition of strict modesty norms on women. Paradoxically, Islam is the weakest here (it allows polygamy). But the idea is the same in all cases. All Abrahamic faiths reject the cult of the great foid. God is unambiguously masculine in all 3 cases.

The only possibility for the Blackpill to thrive and have an impact is to acknowledge this heritage. In other words, The Blackpill has to be the "Fourth Testament" (if we count the Quran as the third).

If, on the contrary, the BlackPill remains a past-time for social rejects who want to think of themselves as "edgy" and provoke reactions from the likes of IT, it will wither and die. Something else will take the place of the Blackpill as the heir of Monotheistic religion and the Blackpill will become a footnote in history as "a short-lived XXIst century subculture"

Correction: Idk about Judaism but Christianity permits polygamy as well such as the story of Solomon and his many wives. It is Islam rather that puts a strict limit on the number of wives one can take. Taking more than one wife isn't encouraged in Islam and is only allowed if you can fulfill the rights of more than one wife.

 

[ItsOver4cel]

even if you enforce religion on soyceities women will still prefer genetically superior males over short ugly males.
lot of chrisitian and muslim women cheat on thier husbands with other males.
if you live in a soyceity that doesn't worship women and you end up with a wife while you're an ugly short male she's still not going to satsify you sexually and she's not going to show the same level of affection to you as if you was a genetically superior male.
genetics are still more important.
also even religion still benefit chads since the most good looking males will get the best positions in soyceity and be respected more by other males. they will get the highest number of girls in the end.

This, genetics > everything else. Whoever says otherwise is coping, I still don't get how these sort of schizo threads get pinned all the time it's actually infuriating to see how far this forum has fallen grom grace.

 

[K9Otaku]

Correction: Idk about Judaism but Christianity permits polygamy as well

No, because in the New Testament, it is said that a Christian must be "the husband of one wife" (1 Timothy 3:2)

such as the story of Solomon and his many wives.

That is Old Testament. For a Christian, the NT supersedes the OT.

It is Islam rather that puts a strict limit on the number of wives one can take.

Christianity: 1
Islam: 4
Chaddam wins

Taking more than one wife isn't encouraged in Islam and is only allowed if you can fulfill the rights of more than one wife.

Christianity is stricter. No concubines, No multiple wives. Even for kings.

 

[K9Otaku]

This, genetics > everything else. Whoever says otherwise is coping,

Wrong. "genetics > everything else" is a midwit statement. Easy to understand and seemingly logical, but wrong.

I still don't get how these sort of schizo threads get pinned all the time it's actually infuriating to see how far this forum has fallen grom grace.

It means this forum is evolving to become less of a place exclusively reserved for dumb midwits. Which is a good thing, right?

If you want your midwit incel forum, go create it: midwitcel.is

 

[ItsOver4cel]

Wrong. "genetics > everything else" is a midwit statement. Easy to understand and seemingly logical, but wrong.


It means this forum is evolving to become less of a place exclusively reserved for dumb midwits. Which is a good thing, right?

If you want your midwit incel forum, go create it: midwitcel.is

ad hominem isn't an argument, I stand by what @nice_try said lol this forum is going downhill

 

[K9Otaku]

this forum is going downhill

It isn't. The mods understand that healthy debate is good. It makes the forum more attractive to new people. More people = better. There are millions of incels in the world. How is it that there are so few here. Purist KHHV genetic Blackpill orthodoxy is one of the reasons. The mods are right to turn their backs on it.

@Fat Link @TheProphetMuscle @MarquisDeSade

 

[K9Otaku]

everyone on this thread except for OP

Not "everyone", only the lazy, the ADHD sufferers, the dopamine addicts and the foid worshipers

 

[based_meme]

This, genetics > everything else. Whoever says otherwise is coping, I still don't get how these sort of schizo threads get pinned all the time it's actually infuriating to see how far this forum has fallen grom grace.

Ask @TheProphetMuscle. He pinned this blue pilled drivel, for reasons not yet known.

The post directly rejects basic truths about genetics that every human being knows, regardless of their level of knowledge on biology and evolution. He literally says there are no good or bad genes. It's so bafflingly stupid that it's just funny.

People born with defects and other health problems don't have bad genes bro. It's all a cultural construct, you see. When Billy's body overproduces myostatin, making his body weak and frail, and when he's born with brittle bone disease, he's genetically equivalent to a strongman world champion. Neither has good or bad genes. They're the exact same bro. This the real black pill bro.

 

[Izayacel]

1,000,000 BC - 2,000 AD
women knew their place

2,000 AD+ women are the pinnacle of total human existence because we invented bing bing phones and digitally exchange photos of ourselves.

And gave Woman more Then a few rights .

 

[K9Otaku]

The post directly rejects basic truths about genetics that every human being knows, regardless of their level of knowledge on biology and evolution.

What? Truths? Genetics is quite complicated already and evolutionary biology even more so and human cultural evolution even more more so. The boundary between the genetic and the cultural (nature vs nurture) is a completely unsettled question. NOBODY knows when the one stops and the other starts. Oversimplification always leads to completely erroneous ideas on that topic.

He literally says there are no good or bad genes. It's so bafflingly stupid that it's just funny.

There are no bad genes in the sense that if you had genuinely bad genes, you would be dead. All genes played some role in human survival at some point in the evolutionary history of mankind. The problem we have now is that many formerly useful genetically determined instincts are no longer useful in a civilized context. Then, some genes start to appear "bad" in that context. Female sexual drive towards the alpha male was positive for millions of years. It is only in the context of today's civilization that this instinct turns into undesirable behaviors like hypergamy, Chad-only preference, etc.

People born with defects and other health problems don't have bad genes bro.

I never said that. Huge strawman.

It's all a cultural construct, you see. When Billy's body overproduces myostatin, making his body weak and frail, and when he's born with brittle bone disease, he's genetically equivalent to a strongman world champion.

Never said that. You are hallucinating.

Neither has good or bad genes. They're the exact same bro. This the real black pill bro.

Stop the mushrooms, bro.

 

[nice_try]

It isn't. The mods understand that healthy debate is good. It makes the forum more attractive to new people. More people = better. There are millions of incels in the world. How is it that there are so few here. Purist KHHV genetic Blackpill orthodoxy is one of the reasons. The mods are right to turn their backs on it.

@Fat Link @TheProphetMuscle @MarquisDeSade

You copy pasting 200 pages of your fucktarded book and mods pinning threads just because the OP asked for it isn't "healthy debate".
It's bad forum administration.

 

[K9Otaku]

You copy pasting 200 pages of your fucktarded book and mods pinning threads just because the OP asked for it isn't "healthy debate".
It's bad forum administration.

280, to be exact

 

[K9Otaku]

Gobekli Tepe is not an "old civilization". It is a series of Megalithic structures that mark the passage of the PPNA to the PPNB, i.e. from basic agriculture performed by women only, to advanced agriculture performed by both men and women. Gobekli Tepe is likely to have had something to do with the invention of Monogamy. Each circle chamber on the mound was probably erected by a male-only initiation-based society of a couple dozen men. These societies were anti-Chad beta-male associations headed by an incel-asperger shaman. As they grew in power, these groups were able to impose monogamy on chieftains (Chads) so that all members could have a wife to fuck. In parallel, this new situation made it possible to enact the fundamental male-female monogamous contract: "I am your alpha male and therefore will fuck you but in exchange, I will do agriculture in order to feed you and the kids". In other words, beta males accepted to pursue the female food gathering strategy (agriculture) in exchange for having exclusive fucking rights to one female. The aspie-incel shaman who was the leader of the beta-male association was doing magic and shit to scare the local Chad into accepting the new deal.

@ElTruecel, thoughts?

 

[ElTruecel]

@ElTruecel, thoughts?

So you don’t believe there was any older civilizations than the ones we historically know of

 

[K9Otaku]

So you don’t believe there was any older civilizations than the ones we historically know of

Yes. Civilizations (cities) leave huge archaeological remains. If any major civilization had existed beyond the ones we know now, we would have found their archeological traces by now.

 

[JayGoptri]

Ask @TheProphetMuscle. He pinned this blue pilled drivel, for reasons not yet known.

For reasons known. It's far more interesting than what you fart out bud.

The post directly rejects basic truths about genetics that every human being knows, regardless of their level of knowledge on biology and evolution. He literally says there are no good or bad genes. It's so bafflingly stupid that it's just funny.

The "truths"? Spoken like a guy who believes in Truth but not Trust.

Of course, for disease there are bad genes, or mutations, bad scripting errors, but it's hard to pin that down for ugliness unless you are talking about major disfigurment ie. like Elephant Man.

People born with defects and other health problems don't have bad genes bro.

This is likely not what he meant.

It's all a cultural construct, you see. When Billy's body overproduces myostatin, making his body weak and frail, and when he's born with brittle bone disease, he's genetically equivalent to a strongman world champion.

Again not about facial aesthetics you sly dog.

Neither has good or bad genes. They're the exact same bro. This the real black pill bro.

Repeating to make your exaggerated point, I see.

 

[JayGoptri]

You copy pasting 200 pages of your fucktarded book and mods pinning threads just because the OP asked for it isn't "healthy debate".
It's bad forum administration.

This thread is for adults. Please be a good boy and confine yourself to the sandbox or children's play area:

 

[Don Vito]

For the moment, most incels believe that the blackpill is about genes, bad foid genes which determine their bad behaviors.

This is WRONG. Genes are never bad. They just are. Genes evolved long before we had any notion of "right" or "wrong". They are a given that civilization must adapt to by suppressing certain (genetically determined) instincts and encouraging others.

All durable civilizations have suppressed human mate selection instincts because these instincts lead to a regression to hunter-gatherer behaviors. Ever since farming was invented, it has become impossible to follow our sexual instincts as is, both on the male and female side.

What we are fighting today with the BlackPill is more specific than our genes, it is a religious-cultural construct called ISHTAR WORSHIP, and which appeared almost exactly at the same time as civilization itself, 6000 years ago.

ISHTAR WORSHIP has been transformed over the ages to suit the tastes of the moment. Here are a few examples.
View attachment 811453View attachment 811454View attachment 811455View attachment 811456View attachment 811457View attachment 811458

ISHTAR WORSHIP has always been combated by Abrahamic religions:

1. Judaism: denunciation of Ashrah and Ashtoreth cult
2. Christianity: Rejection of the "Whore of Babylon"
3. Islam. Rejection of Al-Manat, Al-Uzzah and Allat.

All 3: Monogamy (anti-Chad policy) and imposition of strict modesty norms on women. Paradoxically, Islam is the weakest here (it allows polygamy). But the idea is the same in all cases. All Abrahamic faiths reject the cult of the great foid. God is unambiguously masculine in all 3 cases.

The only possibility for the Blackpill to thrive and have an impact is to acknowledge this heritage. In other words, The Blackpill has to be the "Fourth Testament" (if we count the Quran as the third).

If, on the contrary, the BlackPill remains a past-time for social rejects who want to think of themselves as "edgy" and provoke reactions from the likes of IT, it will wither and die. Something else will take the place of the Blackpill as the heir of Monotheistic religion and the Blackpill will become a footnote in history as "a short-lived XXIst century subculture"

If you read the bible and compare it with Sumerian, Cananite, Assyrian and Babylonian traditions you will realize that these politheist societies allowed women to be priestess while Israelites only allowed men to be priests.

Is also funny some callbacks between the West and these societies aside of the foid worship you pointed out. Babylon is described as a land of excess and sin. I often see how normies glorify alcoholism, parties and sex.

 

[Don Vito]

This, genetics > everything else. Whoever says otherwise is coping, I still don't get how these sort of schizo threads get pinned all the time it's actually infuriating to see how far this forum has fallen grom grace.

Yeah. Genetics are everything but is fair to say that civilization and lack of foid worship benefit all males. Specially incels.

 

[Confessor]

The ten handed Goddess upon the Lion is Maa Durga. Worshipped and revered in Curryland as the wife of Lord Shiva, the destroyer God. Her Husband gets more worship than her aside from East Curryland so I don't know if your Ishtar worship is true. Goddesses are a major part of Curry faith but ultimately most curries are more attracted to worship of male Gods(Hanuman, Ganesha, Ram)

 

[noodlelover]

JFL at this nonsense thread being pinned.

It's a pretentious word vomit salad, that essentially says religious monogamy, reduces hypergamy.

jfl at any one who thinks "black pill" can have that same effect. Black pill increase hypergamy because it gives people more freedom to be their natural self.

Religion is dead in the west. Monogamy is dead. Most men will die alone, as incels. There's not shit any can or will ever do about it.

Even Muslim societies will follow a similar trajectory in the next two hundred years. If we survive.

 

[K9Otaku]

If you read the bible and compare it with Sumerian, Cananite, Assyrian and Babylonian traditions you will realize that these politheist societies allowed women to be priestess while Israelites only allowed men to be priests.

Is also funny some callbacks between the West and these societies aside of the foid worship you pointed out. Babylon is described as a land of excess and sin. I often see how normies glorify alcoholism, parties and sex.

Absolutely. The same thing happened in late Rome. Alexandria, etc.

 

[K9Otaku]

The ten handed Goddess upon the Lion is Maa Durga. Worshipped and revered in Curryland as the wife of Lord Shiva, the destroyer God. Her Husband gets more worship than her aside from East Curryland so I don't know if your Ishtar worship is true. Goddesses are a major part of Curry faith but ultimately most curries are more attracted to worship of male Gods(Hanuman, Ganesha, Ram)

I disagree. I have been living in India for 7 years (and I knew India well long before that). Here in the South (Bangalore), Durga and Kali are popular as hell. The main festival in the state of Mysore was Navaratri (ceremony led by the Raja). It still is the biggest Hindu festival in the year.

Also, the most prosperous small Temples in urban areas are always to some kind of Shakti/Kali

 

[PersonaPimp]

My version of Nazism is incel supremacy and enslaves normies to the bottom

Nazism = nature worship

 

[Trannydestroyer]

It is more than that. Read the book. Chapter 4 deals with Ishtar.

book name?

 

[Trannydestroyer]

I disagree. I have been living in India for 7 years (and I knew India well long before that). Here in the South (Bangalore), Durga and Kali are popular as hell. The main festival in the state of Mysore was Navaratri (ceremony led by the Raja). It still is the biggest Hindu festival in the year.

Also, the most prosperous small Temples in urban areas are always to some kind of Shakti/Kali

True

 

[spasticbuddy]

book name?

I’ve read chapter 4. It’s legit

 

[Adûnâi]

What in the actual fuck? I could understand at least if you were blaming Lilith, the feminist icon, traditionally despised, never a deity to begin with (apparently). But Ishtar? She's Inanna/Ishtar/Astarte/Aprhodite/Venus/Astaroth (Goetic), how is she relevant at all?

See Russo-Armenian muttblood schizo cultist Kurginyan for his rant against Lilith as inspiration.

https://archive.vn/PcSf2

See Umay_and_Kayra's points about Lilith.
old reddit com/r/occult/comments/44d6is/why_summon_lilith_or_astaroth/czpdkz8/

View: https://old.reddit.com/r/occult/comments/44d6is/why_summon_lilith_or_astaroth/czpdkz8/


As regards the sexy females? Have you missed the memo that sexy females have been obliterated off the Western cultural landscape? Where have you even found them after the early 2000s? A current example - compare StormGate's ugly females to ZeroSpace's. Compare LoL designs to Mobile Legends (China) or Eternal Return (Korea). West = hideous creatures. Sino-Koreans = actual beauty.

And people on Discord almost had a riot accusing ZeroSpace of AI art that is offensive to foids! Literally because too pretty! We are not the same.

Image list: StormGate - ZeroSpace - LoL Gwen - Eternal Return Haze - MLBB Layla (new player skin).

 

[Blackpill Monk]

What do you think the ubaidians were? @K9Otaku

Excerpt of which book is this