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The Rapture will be on the last day

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Revelation 11
9For three and a half days all peoples and tribes and tongues and nations will view their bodies and will not permit them to be laid in a tomb. 10And those who dwell on the earth will gloat over them, and will celebrate and send one another gifts, because these two prophets had tormented them.11But after the three and a half days, the breath of life from God entered the two witnesses, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell upon those who saw them. 12And the witnesses heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud as their enemies watched them.13And in that hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand were killed in the quake, and the rest were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

1 Thessolonians 4
15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.
18Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Revelations 9
3And out of the smoke, locusts descended on the earth, and they were given power like that of the scorpions of the earth. 4They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5The locusts were not given power to kill them, but only to torment them for five months, and their torment was like the stinging of a scorpion. 6In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will long to die, but death will escape them.

Revelations 7
2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, with the seal of the living God. And he called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3“Do not harm the land or sea or trees until we have sealed the foreheads of the servants of our God.”

Mark 13
24But in those days, after that tribulation:
‘The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
25the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’c
26At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.d 27And He will send out the angels to gather His elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.
 
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When the Rapture happens it will be the biggest revival of the Church
Everyone will be in the streets praising the Lord but it will be too late
I have reason to believe the Lord Jesus Christ has communicated to me and my fellow Christian brothers in our dreams, Jesus is Lord repent and believe or face the consequences
 
When the Rapture happens it will be the biggest revival of the Church
Everyone will be in the streets praising the Lord but it will be too late
I have reason to believe the Lord Jesus Christ has communicated to me and my fellow Christian brothers in our dreams, Jesus is Lord repent and believe or face the consequences

Big cope, in the end times christians will be demonized by the media as crazy lunatics

Meanwhile foids will worship satan as their father, refusing to live meaningful lives while embracing chaos
 
Big cope, in the end times christians will be demonized by the media as crazy lunatics

Meanwhile foids will worship satan as their father, refusing to live meaningful lives while embracing chaos
Good point. Media will prob cover it up
 
When the Rapture happens it will be the biggest revival of the Church
Everyone will be in the streets praising the Lord but it will be too late
I have reason to believe the Lord Jesus Christ has communicated to me and my fellow Christian brothers in our dreams, Jesus is Lord repent and believe or face the consequences
Luke 22:36 "Sell your cloak and buy a sword"

20200213 192914
 
Sounds interesting, I didn't yet reed the revelations, man those locust sound scary. So on the day Jesus return universe will collapse.
 
Sounds interesting, I didn't yet reed the revelations, man those locust sound scary. So on the day Jesus return universe will collapse.
Yes and if you keep His commandments you will be ascended into Heaven and live in eternal happiness
 
Sounds interesting, I didn't yet reed the revelations, man those locust sound scary. So on the day Jesus return universe will collapse.


I think the day I kill myself, the last verse I shall ever read will be this one:


Revelation 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death' or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
 
I think the day I kill myself, the last verse I shall ever read will be this one:


Revelation 21:4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death' or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
Suicide is an unforgivable sin, do you think God can understand and forgive it? it's the only reason why I didn't kill myself already.

You chosed a beautiful verse, I didnt understand it fully when I was a kid in church, now I understand it too well.
 
Suicide is an unforgivable sin
Matthew 12:31-32

"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven."

Thats the only unforgivable sin.
 
Your mom is an unforgivable sin.
My mom is dead
Matthew 12:31-32

"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven."

Thats the only unforgivable sin.
Yeah I heard about blasphemy against holy Spirit is unforgivable, but if a suicide is a sin and you die then you don't have the time to repent
 
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The End is nigh
 
So, which concretely is this? Name some.
Are you not a Christian?
Do not lie
Do not steal
Honor your mother and father
Turn the other cheek
Get rid of your worldy posessions and give to the poor
Do not curse
Do not blaspheme
Etc
 
Why do I keep getting pinged in these posts about the new testament JFL?
 
Big cope, in the end times christians will be demonized by the media as crazy lunatics

Meanwhile foids will worship satan as their father, refusing to live meaningful lives while embracing chaos
Instead of christians being put in colosseums to be eaten up bi lions and tigers.
This time perhaps they will be fed to those godzilla monster creatures that come from the sea or zombies .
 
Are you not a Christian?
Do not lie
Do not steal
Honor your mother and father
Turn the other cheek
Get rid of your worldy posessions and give to the poor
Do not curse
Do not blaspheme
Etc
So, what have these do to with "ascension" (you mean resurrection?) or salvation?

What is a Christian?
 
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Interdasting.
 
I ask this, because there nowadays different gospels out there (but not only now, even 2k years ago) even if I think that you didn't meant that in your sig with the plural of gospel.

So again, what makes you Christian? What guarantees you that you ascend in heaven?
 
imagine believing in a god who made you to be a trucel and could potentially send even little children to a lake of fire for all eternity just for not following him
just kek believing in religions in 2020
 
I ask this, because there nowadays different gospels out there (but not only now, even 2k years ago) even if I think that you didn't meant that in your sig with the plural of gospel.

So again, what makes you Christian? What guarantees you that you ascend in heaven?
my faith and my works
gospels is plural of gospel, i read the NKJV so matthew john luke mark
 
my faith and my works
gospels is plural of gospel, i read the NKJV so matthew john luke mark
So, you believe in catholic "infused grace" (which isn't really far away from muslims soteriology and all other world religions btw). You get some conditional grace and with a specific, but of course vague level of good works you are in and when you have them not, you are out.

It is important in/on what for what you believe. You will not get born again by believing and following all, what is written in the 4 gospels. It may be confusing because this biblical books are also called gospel, but they all tell only from one gospel of Jesus Christ. Gospel means good news.

Some verses about this, only from 2 books Corinthians and and one notion of the gospel in revelation so that not only Paul is used here as source . There are many dozens more. Lookup for yourself:

1.Cor 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

1.Cor 9:12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

1.Kor 9:16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

1.Cor 9:18 What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.

2.Cor 2:12 Furthermore, when I came to Troas to preach Christ's gospel, and a door was opened unto me of the Lord,

2.Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

1.Kor 9:23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

1.Cor 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

Acts 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

Acts 11:20 But there were some of them, Cypriot and Cyrenian men, who came to Antioch and began speaking to the Hellenists, proclaiming the good news about the Lord Jesus.


Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Everything is from KJV except Acts 11:20. There and in several places in acts says "preached Jesus" instead (Acts 5:42, 8:35, 11:20, 17:18). But if one looks into the original Greek text, it is written there every time: " ευαγγελιζομενοι τον κυριον ιησουν".Translated: Gospel of the Lord Jesus. So, Paul (Kor), John (Rev) and Luke (acts) used this term: the gospel of Jesus. Singular and of a person/what this person did.
This for first clearance.

Secondly that Jesus commanded many things is right. 1. Repenting 2. Magnification of God's law 3. Instructions for believers

1. Repentance is a change of mind (with actions accompanied often, especially when it is repentance from/about sins). Since Israel believed in God and the Torah and waited for Messia the main part of Jesus' call to repentance was to believe, that he is the messiah. Accompanied and gone before was that they change their mind about themselves and stop hardening their hearts: That they first foremost see themselves as sinners, who are in need of a messiah. (Luke 13:1-5, Luke 5:32) But this task was even more given to John the Baptist (Mt 21:32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.)

2 The latter is seen for example in my signature Matthew 5:21, but also Mark 5:29, where he summoned the ten commandments. Since no one will be righteous through works of the law (Galatian, Romans) this was more a kind of pre-evangelism which should lead to repentance: But not for striving harder, but to the repentance to him, because it's purpose is not that it brings righteousness to us.
Galatian 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Galatian 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Roman 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


3. For example the Sermon on the Mount. They go even further than the commandments. Love your enemy, give all away, tolerate suffering. When even nobody can perfectly keep the law to avoid the wrath of God and judgement, this commandments couldn't be the conditions to come to heaven. Like I would say to you: "I see you can't jump 2 m high to save yourself, so I demand that you jump 3 metres high." That does not make sense.
These are - with the power and guiding of Holy Spirit - instruction to bring God's kingdom to light here on earth and how we as light should live in darkness.

Then there are also commandments in the letters from Romans to Revelation. When this is the written word of God and Paul made it even sometimes clear, that he has the commandments right trough revelation/inspiration from God, then this adds further to the list to make it.

Even, when you would be perfectly on track and do all this, you have not the things, which the scripture tell us every believer has:
1. an event, where you are saved: acts 2:47, (in your soteriology POV: you has to know all commandments and follow them, a process)
2. a new life which is eternal and neverending John 4:14, 2. Tim 2:13(your POV: you can be abandoned by God every time)
3. an assurance about it: 1. John 5:13 (Even, when you know all commandments from the ten commandments, the sermon on the mount, etc to the letters and would perfectly fulfill them till now, you never know if you will make so till the end/death)
They are all 3 intermingled somewhat, so I arbitrary selection of verses who show through the past tense, that there is a thing that happened in the past, which is now a certain fact and not doubted in any way: most of Romans in past tense like Romans 5:9 as proof of a fixed fact, 2. Kor 1:10, 2. Thess, 2:13, 2: Tim 1:9, Titus 3:5, acts 13:48, mark 16:16, Roman 10:9, Eph 2:8

Yes, there are verses who speak, at least at first glance for a symbiotic work for heaven. God does his part and we have to do our part of being faithful and good works till the end. But from the analogy in the Old Testament to Israel to the examples of Old Testament guys, who did bad, but were still counted righteous till the great majority of new testament there is only one way to get saved, by grace alone and by God alone. For example also in the parable of the sower only about the first group of unbelievers called Jesus the ones, who will not saved. Not the same with the fruitless next groups. That he want see good fruit, has commandments we should follow and bless these true followers is still true.
But to have faith in him - that we have confidence in his works, not in ours. We are spiritually dead and after he made us alive he will not make us dead again.

What is the most crucial commandment overall:

1 John 3:23
22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us


Acts 16:30
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

What is the saving message?
1. Corinthians 15:1-4
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures

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Yeah I heard about blasphemy against holy Spirit is unforgivable, but if a suicide is a sin and you die then you don't have the time to repent
Right, but repentance from sin is not the condition to get saved eternally.
 
So, you believe in catholic "infused grace" (which isn't really far away from muslims soteriology and all other world religions btw). You get some conditional grace and with a specific, but of course vague level of good works you are in and when you have them not, you are out.

It is important in/on what for what you believe. You will not get born again by believing and following all, what is written in the 4 gospels. It may be confusing because this biblical books are also called gospel, but they all tell only from one gospel of Jesus Christ. Gospel means good news.

Some verses about this, only from 2 books Corinthians and and one notion of the gospel in revelation so that not only Paul is used here as source . There are many dozens more. Lookup for yourself:

1.Cor 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

1.Cor 9:12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

1.Kor 9:16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

1.Cor 9:18 What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.

2.Cor 2:12 Furthermore, when I came to Troas to preach Christ's gospel, and a door was opened unto me of the Lord,

2.Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

1.Kor 9:23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

1.Cor 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

Acts 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

Acts 11:20 But there were some of them, Cypriot and Cyrenian men, who came to Antioch and began speaking to the Hellenists, proclaiming the good news about the Lord Jesus.


Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Everything is from KJV except Acts 11:20. There and in several places in acts says "preached Jesus" instead (Acts 5:42, 8:35, 11:20, 17:18). But if one looks into the original Greek text, it is written there every time: " ευαγγελιζομενοι τον κυριον ιησουν".Translated: Gospel of the Lord Jesus. So, Paul (Kor), John (Rev) and Luke (acts) used this term: the gospel of Jesus. Singular and of a person/what this person did.
This for first clearance.

Secondly that Jesus commanded many things is right. 1. Repenting 2. Magnification of God's law 3. Instructions for believers

1. Repentance is a change of mind (with actions accompanied often, especially when it is repentance from/about sins). Since Israel believed in God and the Torah and waited for Messia the main part of Jesus' call to repentance was to believe, that he is the messiah. Accompanied and gone before was that they change their mind about themselves and stop hardening their hearts: That they first foremost see themselves as sinners, who are in need of a messiah. (Luke 13:1-5, Luke 5:32) But this task was even more given to John the Baptist (Mt 21:32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.)

2 The latter is seen for example in my signature Matthew 5:21, but also Mark 5:29, where he summoned the ten commandments. Since no one will be righteous through works of the law (Galatian, Romans) this was more a kind of pre-evangelism which should lead to repentance: But not for striving harder, but to the repentance to him, because it's purpose is not that it brings righteousness to us.
Galatian 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Galatian 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Roman 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


3. For example the Sermon on the Mount. They go even further than the commandments. Love your enemy, give all away, tolerate suffering. When even nobody can perfectly keep the law to avoid the wrath of God and judgement, this commandments couldn't be the conditions to come to heaven. Like I would say to you: "I see you can't jump 2 m high to save yourself, so I demand that you jump 3 metres high." That does not make sense.
These are - with the power and guiding of Holy Spirit - instruction to bring God's kingdom to light here on earth and how we as light should live in darkness.

Then there are also commandments in the letters from Romans to Revelation. When this is the written word of God and Paul made it even sometimes clear, that he has the commandments right trough revelation/inspiration from God, then this adds further to the list to make it.

Even, when you would be perfectly on track and do all this, you have not the things, which the scripture tell us every believer has:
1. an event, where you are saved: acts 2:47, (in your soteriology POV: you has to know all commandments and follow them, a process)
2. a new life which is eternal and neverending John 4:14, 2. Tim 2:13(your POV: you can be abandoned by God every time)
3. an assurance about it: 1. John 5:13 (Even, when you know all commandments from the ten commandments, the sermon on the mount, etc to the letters and would perfectly fulfill them till now, you never know if you will make so till the end/death)
They are all 3 intermingled somewhat, so I arbitrary selection of verses who show through the past tense, that there is a thing that happened in the past, which is now a certain fact and not doubted in any way: most of Romans in past tense like Romans 5:9 as proof of a fixed fact, 2. Kor 1:10, 2. Thess, 2:13, 2: Tim 1:9, Titus 3:5, acts 13:48, mark 16:16, Roman 10:9, Eph 2:8

Yes, there are verses who speak, at least at first glance for a symbiotic work for heaven. God does his part and we have to do our part of being faithful and good works till the end. But from the analogy in the Old Testament to Israel to the examples of Old Testament guys, who did bad, but were still counted righteous till the great majority of new testament there is only one way to get saved, by grace alone and by God alone. For example also in the parable of the sower only about the first group of unbelievers called Jesus the ones, who will not saved. Not the same with the fruitless next groups. That he want see good fruit, has commandments we should follow and bless these true followers is still true.
But to have faith in him - that we have confidence in his works, not in ours. We are spiritually dead and after he made us alive he will not make us dead again.

What is the most crucial commandment overall:

1 John 3:23
22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us


Acts 16:30
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

What is the saving message?
1. Corinthians 15:1-4
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures

@Mainländer @Mecoja @Hate_my_life

Right, but repentance from sin is not the condition to get saved eternally.
didn't read
td lr please
 
Meanwhile foids will worship satan as their father, refusing to live meaningful lives while embracing chaos
The antichrist will probably be one of the biggest chads ever if the whole world is going to worship him tbhngl
 
Right, but repentance from sin is not the condition to get saved eternally.
Make sense, it's impossible to repent for all and every sin, we repent and ask for forgiveness but we keep making those sins. God knows we are weak in mind and body.

My grandma hang herself and orthodox priest refused to attend her funeral and it was forbidden to put a cross on her grave. I don't affiliate myself with any church, I believe in every word from Bible and only from Bible.


First there was the 10 commandments that gave us the guidance how not to became degenerates, later Jesus become the living example of what we should strive to be, of course it's impossible because He is God and we are only humans but we should follow His way of life as much we could. It's hard forgiving and letting go of hatred in this rotten world. God said to hate the sin not the sinner.
 
What happens to those who died before the day comes?
 
What happens to those who died before the day comes?
They might be in some kind of waiting room, or maybe time doesn't exist outside this world maybe they are already at judgement day.
 
didn't read
td lr please
I please that you do it when you have some time.

Nonetheless, I try a tldr: Your view on the gospel, the role and purpose of commandments, and the role of works may be wrong.

My grandma hang herself and orthodox priest refused to attend her funeral and it was forbidden to put a cross on her grave.
That's saddening, but maybe part of the (wrong) doctrines of the orthodox church. I know one person in russian orthodox church, who is zealous in doing good, knows Jesus (that he is son of God, died on the cross for the sins etc.) but doesn't know the Gospel.
 
Are you guys pre, mid, post-trib, brothers? Or perhaps some of you don't even believe in the rapture?

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I'm pre-trib and think the rapture is coming really soon. The 40 jubilees/2000 years from the prophecy are about to be fulfilled, Jesus died on 28-33 A.D, so if you subtract the 7 years of the tribulation, it's very likely the the tribulation will be anytime between 2021 and 2026. Fingers crossed!

In the first coming, Jesus's feet won't touch the ground of the earth, He'll just be in the clouds and call us. In the second coming, during Armageddon, he'll come here to rule the world with an iron rod and destroy His enemies. This will be after the tribulation. Right now, we are in the beginning of sorrows.
 
Are you guys pre, mid, post-trib, brothers? Or perhaps some of you don't even believe in the rapture?

@FlamingCel
@mänline
@Billowel
@Hate_my_life

I'm pre-trib and think the rapture is coming really soon. The 40 jubilees/2000 years from the prophecy are about to be fulfilled, Jesus died on 28-33 A.D, so if you subtract the 7 years of the tribulation, it's very likely the the tribulation will be anytime between 2021 and 2026. Fingers crossed!

In the first coming, Jesus's feet won't touch the ground of the earth, He'll just be in the clouds and call us. In the second coming, during Armageddon, he'll come here to rule the world with an iron rod and destroy His enemies. This will be after the tribulation. Right now, we are in the beginning of sorrows.

" 1Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away. 32 No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33Be on your guard and stay alert! For you do not know when the appointed time will come"

i want to believe the end is soon as much as you, but scripture seems to be against it.
 
Jesus and Saint Paul seemed to think the end of the world was going to be about 2000 years ago.
 
Massive Cope ngl
 
The next big event after this pandemic is a crop killing virus, that will prevent cows to flourish.
after that it will be Zombie Apocalype affecting game animals on a much greater scale than present, ( deer since 1967, wild boars and hogs)
then a great famine.

that is my guess.
 

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