“I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: Oh Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. And God granted it." – Voltaire.
We know that people from that subreddit are reading this forum, and if they find something that's "out there," they repost it to make us look bad. The gist of these postings is that incels aren't mentally well. Be that as it may, this is at the very least the pot calling the kettle black. Meaning, they aren't well themselves—not one bit. This can be seen by checking posts they make on other subreddits. They essentially fall into two categories:
The self-flagellating incel-in-denial, quite often a transsexual. "Incel-in-denial" refers to a man who is incapable of coming to terms with his inceldom. People sometimes pretend that they don't know what an incel is. An incel is a man who's unable to form a romantic relationship despite wanting one. If a man fits this description, he's an incel. It doesn't really matter whether he calls himself one. In itself, inceldom doesn't necessitate any particular attitudes. An incel might hate women, or he might not—it depends. That being said, there are ideas that could generally be ascribed to inceldom. The number one being the importance of looks in men's dating success, and, retrospectively, incel men's lack of it. Simply put, incels claim that they're unloved because they're ugly. The importance of looks can be scientifically proven with dating app data, though we won't go into detail here.
Yet there's this push to reject sound social science, as far as social science can be sound. Talking about looks is labeled as "trauma." The rebuttal to this is that it doesn't matter. Even if the man calling water wet is traumatized, the water's still wet. But we won't stop here. With this, psychologizing is invited, and it cuts both ways. So, what does the admission of the importance of looks do psychologically? It externalizes the guilt. Meaning, looks (let's say, height) aren't under a person's control. Others, then, who mistreat the short person, are the morally culpable ones. If it is the case—and it is—that society looks down on short men, then externalizing the guilt is actually good for mental health. It doesn't fix the issue at its core, but it unburdens the person mentally.
Now, the incel-in-denial from the IncelTears subreddit comes in. He's ugly, and he's rejected because of this. But he can never, ever accept this simple truth. It must be his "personality," it just must. So they tell him. This cripples his mind immensely. He now has to prove that he's "good." So, he goes out of his way, writing paragraphs and paragraphs about how he's "not conventionally attractive," yet he would never associate with these "hateful" incels. This is very unhealthy because he assumes unnecessary guilt and becomes performative, inauthentic.
And now that he's spiritually castrated, he'll castrate himself physically—literally. Meaning, he'll become a transsexual. Being a man is hard, so he rejects being a man. The trans community is presented by propagandists in the media as "wholesome" and "welcoming," while incels are supposedly "hateful" and "toxic." And, remember, the self-flagellating man has to be "a good person." Thus, he mutilates his body. The suicide rates in the trans community are exceptionally high. And this is his fate, too.
Could he simply accept the importance of looks, not blame himself, and stop begging for approval, his life could be saved. Better "toxic" and alive than dickless and dead.
The fat, mentally unstable Karen. Here, we're talking about women. The Karen will be fat and aged 25-45. She sometimes begins to cry seemingly without reason. The Karen is on antidepressants. She has severe spurts of social anxiety. Meaning, despite lecturing people about mental health, she herself cannot ask a stranger on the street what time it is without starting to shake internally. The Karen goes to therapy excessively. While she does that, the symptoms seem to lessen. When the Karen doesn't go for half a year, she "relapses." So, therapy isn't actually working for her.
The Karen is passive-aggressive in her demeanor. She says "thank you" while clenching her teeth, gives backhanded compliments, and dishes out snide remarks. She dislikes a lot of things, yet she cannot confront them directly, so she goes behind others' backs, gossiping extensively. Given any level of authority, she becomes a petty tyrant. She will scold her subordinates for being two minutes late.
At that one party at university, she had sex with an attractive man while drunk. The man was drunk, too, so he went for it. When he sobered up, he realized she's too fat for him, so he rejected her attempts to form a long-term relationship. This hurt her deeply. Now that she's older, she's with another man who's significantly less attractive than the man at the party. She still masturbates sometimes, secretly thinking about the man at the party. All her sexual history perfectly aligns with what incels say about relationships. They are looks-based. She wants the good-looking man, but the good-looking man doesn't want her. After all these years, she can't get over even a brief sexual encounter, so women's chastity really matters.
Her toxicity really shines when she wants to "understand" incels. That's because, as per her passive-aggressive nature, she's not seeking knowledge—she wants to obtain some kind of superiority, albeit indirectly. Were she actually willing to learn, she would, say, listen to arguments about looks, then create a fake man's dating profile as a social experiment to test the claims herself. But she doesn't want that. She wants to be "concerned," then "recommend" therapy. If she's "concerned," well, she's "a good person"—unlike these "toxic" incels.
DNR version: Your critics are fucked up in the head. Water is wet.
We know that people from that subreddit are reading this forum, and if they find something that's "out there," they repost it to make us look bad. The gist of these postings is that incels aren't mentally well. Be that as it may, this is at the very least the pot calling the kettle black. Meaning, they aren't well themselves—not one bit. This can be seen by checking posts they make on other subreddits. They essentially fall into two categories:
The self-flagellating incel-in-denial, quite often a transsexual. "Incel-in-denial" refers to a man who is incapable of coming to terms with his inceldom. People sometimes pretend that they don't know what an incel is. An incel is a man who's unable to form a romantic relationship despite wanting one. If a man fits this description, he's an incel. It doesn't really matter whether he calls himself one. In itself, inceldom doesn't necessitate any particular attitudes. An incel might hate women, or he might not—it depends. That being said, there are ideas that could generally be ascribed to inceldom. The number one being the importance of looks in men's dating success, and, retrospectively, incel men's lack of it. Simply put, incels claim that they're unloved because they're ugly. The importance of looks can be scientifically proven with dating app data, though we won't go into detail here.
Yet there's this push to reject sound social science, as far as social science can be sound. Talking about looks is labeled as "trauma." The rebuttal to this is that it doesn't matter. Even if the man calling water wet is traumatized, the water's still wet. But we won't stop here. With this, psychologizing is invited, and it cuts both ways. So, what does the admission of the importance of looks do psychologically? It externalizes the guilt. Meaning, looks (let's say, height) aren't under a person's control. Others, then, who mistreat the short person, are the morally culpable ones. If it is the case—and it is—that society looks down on short men, then externalizing the guilt is actually good for mental health. It doesn't fix the issue at its core, but it unburdens the person mentally.
Now, the incel-in-denial from the IncelTears subreddit comes in. He's ugly, and he's rejected because of this. But he can never, ever accept this simple truth. It must be his "personality," it just must. So they tell him. This cripples his mind immensely. He now has to prove that he's "good." So, he goes out of his way, writing paragraphs and paragraphs about how he's "not conventionally attractive," yet he would never associate with these "hateful" incels. This is very unhealthy because he assumes unnecessary guilt and becomes performative, inauthentic.
And now that he's spiritually castrated, he'll castrate himself physically—literally. Meaning, he'll become a transsexual. Being a man is hard, so he rejects being a man. The trans community is presented by propagandists in the media as "wholesome" and "welcoming," while incels are supposedly "hateful" and "toxic." And, remember, the self-flagellating man has to be "a good person." Thus, he mutilates his body. The suicide rates in the trans community are exceptionally high. And this is his fate, too.
Could he simply accept the importance of looks, not blame himself, and stop begging for approval, his life could be saved. Better "toxic" and alive than dickless and dead.
The fat, mentally unstable Karen. Here, we're talking about women. The Karen will be fat and aged 25-45. She sometimes begins to cry seemingly without reason. The Karen is on antidepressants. She has severe spurts of social anxiety. Meaning, despite lecturing people about mental health, she herself cannot ask a stranger on the street what time it is without starting to shake internally. The Karen goes to therapy excessively. While she does that, the symptoms seem to lessen. When the Karen doesn't go for half a year, she "relapses." So, therapy isn't actually working for her.
The Karen is passive-aggressive in her demeanor. She says "thank you" while clenching her teeth, gives backhanded compliments, and dishes out snide remarks. She dislikes a lot of things, yet she cannot confront them directly, so she goes behind others' backs, gossiping extensively. Given any level of authority, she becomes a petty tyrant. She will scold her subordinates for being two minutes late.
At that one party at university, she had sex with an attractive man while drunk. The man was drunk, too, so he went for it. When he sobered up, he realized she's too fat for him, so he rejected her attempts to form a long-term relationship. This hurt her deeply. Now that she's older, she's with another man who's significantly less attractive than the man at the party. She still masturbates sometimes, secretly thinking about the man at the party. All her sexual history perfectly aligns with what incels say about relationships. They are looks-based. She wants the good-looking man, but the good-looking man doesn't want her. After all these years, she can't get over even a brief sexual encounter, so women's chastity really matters.
Her toxicity really shines when she wants to "understand" incels. That's because, as per her passive-aggressive nature, she's not seeking knowledge—she wants to obtain some kind of superiority, albeit indirectly. Were she actually willing to learn, she would, say, listen to arguments about looks, then create a fake man's dating profile as a social experiment to test the claims herself. But she doesn't want that. She wants to be "concerned," then "recommend" therapy. If she's "concerned," well, she's "a good person"—unlike these "toxic" incels.
DNR version: Your critics are fucked up in the head. Water is wet.
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