It's Over The problem of "improving yourself" is that it would take a shit ton of effort

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First you'd need to work on your attitude, being more social and everything, but since most of us are asocial by nature, it wouldn't look natural. Besides, no one wants to be around us anyways. Then you need to work on your appearance, and that's even more difficult. You'd have to work out a lot and stop eating the things that you like to be in shape (now if you do it to have better help, that's fine more power to you). It'd take months and sometimes years of effort but in the end it's not worth it. No one would notice it cause we're still ugly anyways.
 
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Imagine playing a game with no rules or goal. We need simple and clear rules. We need order to this chaotic degeneracy.
 
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HonklerTheConqueror said:
Imagine playing a game with no rules or goal. We need simple and clear rules. We need order to this chaotic degeneracy.



Most people here are gigacoping if the opportunity came they would jump head first into degeneracy i woudn't but most people here would
 
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What if we got surgery?
 
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No the problem with improving yourself is it's a load of bullshit.
They tell you that because it's an easy out.
You work hard and succeed? They say "see I told you so!"
You work hard and fail? They say "you didn't work hard enough and gave up!"

You think the average normalfag has to spend a couple of hours in the gym a day or bust their ass in a STEM field just to get a sublooksmatch gf? No, and the people telling you to just pull your bootstraps bro is probably some privileged fuckwit that hasn't had to put effort into anything in their life (this rings 100 times more true if they're female).
 
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Uglyme said:
First you'd need to work on your attitude, being more social and everything, but since most of us are asocial by nature, it wouldn't look natural. Besides, no one wants to be around us anyways. Then you need to work on your appearance, and that's even more difficult. You'd have to work out a lot and stop eating the things that you like to be in shape (now if you do it to have better help, that's fine more power to you). It'd take months and sometimes years of effort but in the end it's not worth it. No one would notice it cause we're still ugly anyways.
There was a quote on the old SlutHate forum that read (I'm paraphrasing) "Trying to improve oneself is literally a race against the clock. By the time you've finished improving everything that has kept you from slaying, you will have lost the most necessary attribute of all-- youth".
 
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Red Pill Rage said:
There was a quote on the old SlutHate forum that read (I'm paraphrasing) "Trying to improve oneself is literally a race against the clock. By the time you've finished improving everything that has kept you from slaying, you will have lost the most necessary attribute-- youth".
This is beautifull quote.
 
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There are three ways to improve yourself:

1. Physically
2. Mentally
3. Spiritually

Ranked least hardest (to) hardest.

Improving in one criteria can help you achieve the other. The most difficult is to improve spiritually.
 
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You think the average normalfag has to spend a couple of hours in the gym a day or bust their ass in a STEM field just to get a sublooksmatch gf? No, and the people telling you to just pull your bootstraps bro is probably some privileged fuckwit that hasn't had to put effort into anything in their life (this rings 100 times more true if they're female).
 
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The fuck you talking about??? I already make this effort and it doesn't help me at all, I go to the gym 5-6 times per week, min 2 hours per day, I'm only eating healthy foods and whey with creatine, I try to clothmaxxx, I try to be pleasant with people all the time.

I'm doing orthodontic treatments, and trying to find a new job to make money for surgerymaxxx, I use products for my skin everyday to remove pinples, dark circles and dead skin, I use minoxidill and finasteride everyday to make my baldness less aggressive.

I'm studyingmaxxx to get a better job and buy a car to win against the driverlincensepill, there is not one fucking normie is this world who knows the shit ton of effort I'm applying, and STILL I SEE NO RESULTS OR EVEN A LITTLE RECOGNITION FOR ALL THIS.
 
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XOR said:
There are three ways to improve yourself:

1. Physically
2. Mentally
3. Spiritually

Ranked least hardest (to) hardest.

Improving in one criteria can help you achieve the other. The most difficult is to improve spiritually.
Fuck you IT.
 
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Nothingness said:
Fuck you IT.

It's definitely the hardest to improve.

You can improve your body (physically) in a matter of months with proper training and normal genetics. If we want to talk about improving spiritually this can take you an entire lifetime (and perhaps many more afterlives).
 
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The only improvement you can make to have a sex life is looksmaxxing.
 
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XOR said:
It's definitely the hardest to improve.

You can improve your body (physically) in a matter of months with proper training and normal genetics. If we want to talk about improving spiritually this can take you an entire lifetime (and perhaps many more afterlives).
Yeah to be bluepilled degenerate like you and suck cock of society. Fucking buddah. Suck my dick piece of shit
 
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Nothingness said:
Yeah to be bluepilled degenerate like you and suck cock of society. Fucking buddah. Suck my dick piece of shit

I never mentioned anything about Buddah or sucking the "cock" of society.

You can improve spiritually and choose to destroy society completely if you wish.
 
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I'm honestly too depressed to even improve anything at all.
 
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It takes an amount of surgery that most poor men could never afford. Suicide is literally a better option.
 
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itsovERbrothER said:
I'm honestly too depressed to even improve anything at all.
 
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HonklerTheConqueror said:
Imagine playing a game with no rules or goal.

Or a game where you cannot even leave the starting area.
 
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Uglyme said:
First you'd need to work on your attitude, being more social and everything, but since most of us are asocial by nature, it wouldn't look natural. Besides, no one wants to be around us anyways. Then you need to work on your appearance, and that's even more difficult. You'd have to work out a lot and stop eating the things that you like to be in shape (now if you do it to have better help, that's fine more power to you). It'd take months and sometimes years of effort but in the end it's not worth it. No one would notice it cause we're still ugly anyways.

No the problem is other people are improving too so you really end up accomplishing nothing if their "base level" is higher than yours

If they have 100 points and you have 50 points, you could double your rating (100) and all they have to do is increase their rating by 25% (125) to still be higher than you, its a losing game because there are too many competitors with too many varying base level "stats"

Like I said in my thread about self improvement

Self improvement only really works if other people aren't doing it, and since everybody is it really amounts to nothing
 
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Uglyme said:
First you'd need to work on your attitude, being more social and everything, but since most of us are asocial by nature, it wouldn't look natural. Besides, no one wants to be around us anyways. Then you need to work on your appearance, and that's even more difficult. You'd have to work out a lot and stop eating the things that you like to be in shape (now if you do it to have better help, that's fine more power to you). It'd take months and sometimes years of effort but in the end it's not worth it. No one would notice it cause we're still ugly anyways.
If you dont put in any work whatsoever your a volcel. The truecels are people who atleast tried looksmaxxing, getting a job, improving their style and got NOTHING out of it, thats the guys who can atleast go to sleep knowing they tried and that it still didnt work.

If anyone here is fat or havn't approached one female ever, you deserve every second of your inceldom. Try some things first, then you can come here as a truecel. Also try like you mean it for godsakes.
 
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Ropemaxx said:
If you dont put in any work whatsoever your a volcel. The truecels are people who atleast tried looksmaxxing, getting a job, improving their style and got NOTHING out of it, thats the guys who can atleast go to sleep knowing they tried and that it still didnt work.

If anyone here is fat or havn't approached one female ever, you deserve every second of your inceldom. Try some things first, then you can come here as a truecel. Also try like you mean it for godsakes.
If you haven't tried corpsemaxxing you're a volcel tbh:feelstastyman:
 
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ryhan said:
Most people here are gigacoping if the opportunity came they would jump head first into degeneracy i woudn't but most people here would
I won't lie, if i could fuck all the pussy i wanted, i'd go for it. But we are not in such position, we are in the other extreme.
 
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BlkPillPres said:
No the problem is other people are improving too so you really end up accomplishing nothing if their "base level" is higher than yours

If they have 100 points and you have 50 points, you could double your rating (100) and all they have to do is increase their rating by 25% (125) to still be higher than you, its a losing game because there are too many competitors with too many varying base level "stats"

Like I said in my thread about self improvement

Self improvement only really works if other people aren't doing it, and since everybody is it really amounts to nothing

Most men will never self-improve, let alone stop being overweight.

However it doesn't matter since women only focus on the top few % and those % will take steps to improve.

Everything is just so fucked.
 
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we could legit improve ourselves with money and effort and escape incel looks/height/bodies but its not worth of wasting years, money and everything for shit like that lol
 
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The worst part of it all is that it never works if you are a trucel.
 
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i put in a lot of effort into self-improvement. i try to learn as many languages as i can, i read at least 12 books a month, i have elaborate skincare routine, i do everything to improve myself looks-wise, i gymcel, moneymaxx, careermax, and still, nothing.
you just can't trump genetics tbh.
 
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DoctorBlythe said:
i put in a lot of effort into self-improvement. i try to learn as many languages as i can, i read at least 12 books a month, i have elaborate skincare routine, i do everything to improve myself looks-wise, i gymcel, moneymaxx, careermax, and still, nothing.
you just can't trump genetics tbh.
Truecel detected, respect.
 
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The thing is I could become a 5/10 with ortho, losing weight, and some filler. But then its just a race against time. New things will turn up to be wrong with me BC of shit genetics and luck, and I will have to make 1000% the effort of normies to just stay average. What is the point then? I know when to cut my losses. I've been mentally Ill since I was a young kid, and at this point no one has the patience or will to put up with an average looking guy who doesn't know how to socialize. Which, spoiler, you need to practice socializing to get better at it.