It's Over The older I get, the more bothered I am by having a low IQ than I am being ugly.

[Ryo_Hazuki]

Have you completed an online IQ test based on visual-spatial pattern recognition and imaginal flexibility? For example the Mensa or Norway tests could act as a basis for conceptualizing your IQ without spending a heap of cash on some frivolous, exhausting examination in a psychologist's office. Of course the test is limited in that it fails to factor in other qualities of intelligence like memory, arithmetical and geometrical calculation, verbal and reading comprehension, et cetera.

Can you provide a link to an IQ test that you believe is accurate and doesn't require you to pay money or provide an e-mail for results? I'll take it and post the results when I get around to it.

 

[Orzmund]

Can you provide a link to an IQ test that you believe is accurate and doesn't require you to pay money or provide an e-mail for results? I'll take it and post the results when I get around to it.

IQ Test - Mensa Danmark

Test din IQ med Mensa Danmarks for-sjov test

mensa.dk

 

[etbrute]

I wish I had high IQ as well, but it would mean nothing since I am non-NT. IQ is nothing when you have mental illness.

 

[Friezacel]

The incredible correlation between IQ and income (2nd edition)

In this article I summarize all I have learned to date about seven economic classes in the United States: The poorest 0.27%, the poorest 10.5%, the median American, the richest 4% , the richest 0.2…

pumpkinperson.com

Okay but my point still stands that connections and nepotism play an important rule. Elon Musk e.g. had a father who owned an emerald mine in South Africa. Or Bill Gates, whose mother helped him get investors. Most famous, rich entrepreneurs had no financial risk when they opened their business

 

[sulpuda]

I've heard that online IQ tests are less accurate. If you are thinking about taking an IQ test, it would be better to get it done by a professional. I don't know how advanced online testing is now, but when I was 14, the level of questions asked was completely different between the IQ test I took at the hospital and the one I took online.

 

[Horatio NiggER bird]

Okay but my point still stands that connections and nepotism play an important rule. Elon Musk e.g. had a father who owned an emerald mine in South Africa. Or Bill Gates, whose mother helped him get investors. Most famous, rich entrepreneurs had no financial risk when they opened their business

If they had mediocre to slightly above average IQs, they would be a bunch of no-name millionaires or decabillionaires at best

 

[Friezacel]

If they had mediocre to slightly above average IQs, they would be a bunch of no-name millionaires or decabillionaires at best

And without connections they most likely would work a 9-5

 

[Horatio NiggER bird]

And without connections they most likely would work a 9-5

touché

I think both high IQ and connections are important

 

[sulpuda]

https://incels.is/threads/what-is-your-opinion-on-ai.658858/

Off topic, but you mentioned in your previous thread that you would give your opinion on AI. What do you think about AI?

 

[anandkonda]

greek?

bro

 

[IggyCope]

Nope, I'm NT as far as I can tell. Like I said, somebody has to be on the left side of the bell curve.

And IQ strongly correlates with financial/career success. Yeah, face and height are far more important when it comes to attracting women, but, I know this is perceived as a "normie" take but, there's more to life than getting a gf. When you're 19 and you're living with your parents "tfw no gf" is your biggest problem. When you're living on your own, having to pay bills to survive, working a stressful job, and in my case dealing with health issues, you realize you have much bigger problems than women hating you because your face is yucky.

I'm a middle aged truecel, and at my age you pretty much accept you're never getting a gf. I'm a lot more bothered by the fact that I work a stressful dead end job meant for 18 year olds.

Ultimately being an ugly incel doesn't require me to DO anything, it just means I'm locked out of certain life experiences and that I can't get away with things better looking guys can, like being outwardly confident where women are present. Basically it just means I have to keep my head down around women, which is more of an inaction, than action. Low IQ on the other hand means I necessarily have to work a lot harder than someone with a higher IQ to survive.

I agree with what you say. I am 43 years old and it is true that, at a certain age, the IQ can cause you more problems than the ugliness; or, at least, more important problems. It's part of being an adult.

But don't underestimate the Blackpill. It's quite possible that your anxiety, low IQ and other problems have been reinforced by your ugliness, because it has prevented you from healthy social life and communication. Your brain has been stunted.

In fact, if you were good looking, it is very likely that you would have a better job, regardless of your IQ.

You may have a low IQ, but i don't think your life has been 100% determined by it. I think your ugliness has been more determinant in your failures than your IQ.

 

[Based NaziCel]

You probably do not have a low IQ judging by your writing, your brain is busy with other things when trying to learn because you get stressed/anxious etc when you are around normies, it makes it impossible to learn.

Yes, he doesn’t seem low IQ at all.It’s probably due to fapping (most “low IQcels” here probably just have their brains messed up by years of fapping evERy day, I guess.You cannot be self aware if you have a low IQ)

 

[RandomGuy]

And IQ strongly correlates with financial/career success.

 

[sterob]

Can you provide a link to an IQ test that you believe is accurate and doesn't require you to pay money or provide an e-mail for results? I'll take it and post the results when I get around to it.

Mensa IQ Challenge – Mensa International

This challenge involves trying to solve 35 puzzles within 25 minutes. The puzzles get progressively difficult as you move through the test.

www.mensa.org

 

[SchrodingersDick]

IQpill is underrated

Not selected for sexually except by proxy I.e. income, and I suppose the good sense to looksmaxx, and to know how to looksmax.

 

[KillNiggers]

What's your IQ OP?

 

[prajeet88]

If you're a ricecel, move to Africa. Even if you're 2 s.d. below the average rice IQ, you will still IQ mog most Africans.

 

[Caesercel]

I don't get it. How can you work a minimum wage job where things have to be explained to you. Most minimum wage jobs are not rocket science and don't require explaination.

 

[Caesercel]

.

I'm the one people have to dumb things down to when everyone else understood perfectly, and sometimes even then I still don't get it.

@anandkonda and @Fevet can relate

 

[Fevet]

@anandkonda and @Fevet can relate

Yeah sorry for not empathizing with someone whose misery stems from reasons perfectly within control. Your post exuded unadulterated narcissism and you simply like to wallow in your plight.

 

[Caesercel]

. Your post exuded unadulterated narcissism and you simply like to wallow in your plight.

Guilty as charged. But what I had stated is still correct. You probably don't even know what it's like to not understand why the world hates you

whose misery stems from reasons perfectly within control.

Not necessarily true

 

[Fevet]

Not necessarily true

r/onexindia is where you belong. "Muh I haven't been dealt the cruel hand in my genes but 70 iq pajeet normies didn't talk to me at school, I'm just like one of you guys!" jfl. It's highly likely you've had sex or relationship with foids too but your snobbish ass is too full of himself to keep it going to build it into something meaningful, so you found it more cathartic to gloat about your non existent misery here instead.

 

[Fevet]

You probably don't even know what it's like to not understand why the world hates you

Haven't you implied having friends to drink with? Not to mention, having foid friends is something you brought up in one of the gcs.

 

[Caesercel]

r/onexindia is where you belong. "Muh I haven't been dealt the cruel hand in my genes but 70 iq pajeet normies didn't talk to me at school, I'm just like one of you guys!" jfl.

I don't know what that subreddit is. Reddit makes me cringe beyond all hope and my accounts don't last. Plus why would I post in a pajeet sub

. It's highly likely you've had sex or relationship with foids too

EHHHH Wrong answer. I wouldn't be here is I was such a normie.

but your snobbish ass is too full of himself to keep it going to build it into something meaningful, so you found it more cathartic to gloat about your non existent misery here instead.

I am actually humble to a fault irl. Especially in the country I live in where status and looking down on your lowers is everything. Narcicism is just a typical social outcast cope

But I'm impressed with your insight into the situation with a few blunders here and there.

Haven't you implied having friends to drink with? Not to mention, having foid friends is something you brought up in one of the gcs.

What's a gc? Anyway one of the groups that I drink with still humiliate me because of the way I am. And the last foid friend I had was in 9th grade which was a one off fluke. Half of you weren't even born back then

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

Good looking guys usually get high position jobs easily or can profit from nepotism/connections. Unless you are actually retarded or have reduced intelligence, you dont have to worry about your IQ. Even most modern millionaires/billionaires made their money because they were either good looking or had the right connections

The incredible correlation between IQ and income (2nd edition)

In this article I summarize all I have learned to date about seven economic classes in the United States: The poorest 0.27%, the poorest 10.5%, the median American, the richest 4% , the richest 0.2…

pumpkinperson.com

Either are good to have, and having both is very good.


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/10vqp9v/extremely_rich_people_are_not_extremely_smart/



View: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/6cypn/iq_v_occupation_chart/

Cross-country evidence on the wage of people with above and below-average looks

https://wol.iza.org/articles/does-it-pay-to-be-beautiful/long Jfl. Every single time women get reminded of how much they benefit from their gender, the number one retort is that they are just seen as sex objects and that's horrible and men can never understand it and bla bla bla. Yet, despite...

incels.is

Share of employees reported as having very good looks by occupation in Germany

Just looked for some fresh, 2022 and 2023 studies/articles on the importance of physical attractiveness, and found this graph in one of them:fuk:. Tfw people desperately try to convince each other that beauty is subjective when there's a clear relationship between being attractive and being in a...

incels.is

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Either are good to have, and having both is very good.


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/10vqp9v/extremely_rich_people_are_not_extremely_smart/



View: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/6cypn/iq_v_occupation_chart/

Cross-country evidence on the wage of people with above and below-average looks

https://wol.iza.org/articles/does-it-pay-to-be-beautiful/long Jfl. Every single time women get reminded of how much they benefit from their gender, the number one retort is that they are just seen as sex objects and that's horrible and men can never understand it and bla bla bla. Yet, despite...

incels.is

Share of employees reported as having very good looks by occupation in Germany

Just looked for some fresh, 2022 and 2023 studies/articles on the importance of physical attractiveness, and found this graph in one of them:fuk:. Tfw people desperately try to convince each other that beauty is subjective when there's a clear relationship between being attractive and being in a...

incels.is

People are so bitter and hateful towards the wealthy and successful, any suggestion that maybe these wealthy fucks are, as a collective, just more talented, smarter and "earned" their position in life risks intense backlash. "Earned" in quotation marks because, at the end of the day, being born into a rich family or being born with a high polygenic score for intelligence are both down to luck.


In regards to the original post: Your writing does seem a bit too clear and your arguments a bit too coherent for someone claiming to be on the left side of the bell curve. You might be misjudging your own intellectual capabilities. People are generally pretty bad at self-evaluation.

If it does turn out that you genuinely are low IQ, then I think it would be best for you to just cut out any intellectual ambitions, left-over pride and the need to prove yourself through arguments from your heart.

Being low IQ is a terrible burden nowadays. Probably best to search for a niche, like some domains you can master through repetition and then engage with others within these domains so you seem much more capable and smarter than you are to them. My dumb as shit father also got through life being overly confident and pressuring others into going along with him. But that a) requires you to be quite the asshole and b) probably worked in part because he was big and intimidating. He was basically a confidence scammer. Stupid but 200% certain of himself. Enough to make others believe him, at least the kind of mid-wits who let themselves get fooled by shit like this.

 

[fatass30000]

i would trade 20 iq points if i could transform into chad

 

[PrototypeCel]

Don't get me wrong, I still REALLY fucking hate being ugly, and my ugliness is by a wide margin the main reason for my lifelong inceldom, but at this point in my life, having a low IQ is realistically a bigger factor in why my life is shit. I'm middle aged and working a minimum wage job where most of my coworkers are zoomers. The only jobs I'm qualified for (and intellectually capable of) are equally low wage, low responsibility jobs. Most people with jobs like mine are able to do it on auto-pilot, but with my low IQ, I have to use 100 percent of my brainpower which means constantly being on fight or flight mode and high cortisol. If I was capable of getting a better job, I would have done it ages ago.

Aside from that, it's fucking embarrassing to have a low IQ. I'm the one people have to dumb things down to when everyone else understood perfectly, and sometimes even then I still don't get it. Just the other day I was talking to someone online via voice chat and he apparently came to the conclusion that I was "mentally disabled" (I never told him i have a low IQ or anything) I know because he told someone else that.

And worst of all, I'm cripplingly self-aware of how low IQ I am. Part of me is disgusted by people who lack self-awareness but part of me envies them.

being low iq untalented on top of being ugly
truly never began for me
its like i was born to stock shelves for a slave wage

 

[stranger]

wish i was high iq from an early age with good social skills. would have prevented a lot

 

[AutisticMonstrosity]

I'm cripplingly self-aware of how low IQ I am

not typical for stupid people to know and accept that they are stupid

and what is your IQ percentile?

 

[AutisticMonstrosity]

wtf, do you have higher verbal ability than your average ability?

have you seen how an average black nigger from africa writes?