The morality of Batman Begins (2005)

[Redbeard7]

Batman Begins (directed by Gentile Christopher Nolan, story by Jew David Goyer, with both writing the screenplay) is a subversive anti-European film.

What are the "morals" of this film?

- It is wrong to kill the childhood murderer of your parents or to even derive satisfaction from his murder by a third party, implicitly you should forgive him and let a mob-controlled legal system "administer justice"

- It is the height of morality to attempt to spare the life of a random Asian murderer and in the process betray your ultra-traditionalist masculine European surrogate father (the core "evil" in the text), destroy his monastic order, kill several of his men indirectly and ultimately kill him

- It is the height of morality to be a romantically incontinent male, psychologically manipulated, browbeaten, slapped and ultimately rejected by an arrogant and abrasive liberal feminist career woman (who is the daughter of a former servant of the Wayne family: the de facto monarchy of Gotham)

- The Anglo protagonist Bruce Wayne (traditionally portrayed as a renaissance man genius) is not very intelligent, at least not compared to the African who runs his science department (with the African promoted to CEO of Wayne Enterprises at the end of the film)

- It was the height of morality for Wayne's "great-great grandfather" to traffic Africans to the North of the United States and to encourage social integration with them, despite Wayne's moralist liberal parents being killed by a member of the criminal underclass

- It is acceptable for Batman to be morally hypocritical regarding his Judeo-Christian "no killing rule", killing via inaction and even via extreme recklessness and then to deny responsibility

-It is the height of morality to defend a corrupt liberal system and to oppose radical measures to defeat evil, with liberalism overcoming traditionalism in the end​

 

[FrothySolutions]

This isn't specific to Batman Begins, this is just how Batman is. Bruce is supposed to know more than his research director? And what does his great great grandfather have to do with anything?

 

[Uggo Mongo]

This isn't specific to Batman Begins, this is just how Batman is. Bruce is supposed to know more than his research director? And what does his great great grandfather have to do with anything?

Bruce Wayne/Batman is a genius sleuth and inventor. Lucius Fox is a recent magical negro character.

 

[Redbeard7]

This isn't specific to Batman Begins, this is just how Batman is. Bruce is supposed to know more than his research director? And what does his great great grandfather have to do with anything?​

Low IQ.

The casting of an African as the head of Wayne's science department was a political decision. The African in question is also synonymous with God in the eyes of many filmgoers who also saw "Bruce Almighty", where Freeman portrayed God.

The character of Lucius Fox didn't exist for the first 40 years of Batman's history, he was a creation of Len Wein. Fox does not appear (even in a cameo) in the biggest all time Batman comics written in the 80's either: The Dark Knight Returns, Year One, The Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum.

Batman/Bruce Wayne is a renaissance man genius in the comics, in Batman Begins he is dumber than an African. This is entirely political.

The actions of his ancestors have thematic significance. The Wayne family going back generations is portrayed as liberal in Batman Begins, favouring integration with the black underclass. Within the text of the film, this is considered moral.​

 

[Redbeard7]

Bruce Wayne/Batman is a genius sleuth and inventor. Lucius Fox is a recent magical negro character.

Exactly.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Low IQ.

The casting of an African as the head of Wayne's science department was a political decision. The African in question is also synonymous with God in the eyes of many filmgoers, who also say "Bruce Almighty", where Freeman portrayed God.

The character of Lucius Fox didn't exist for the first 40 years of Batman's history, he was a creation of Len Wein. Fox does not appear (even in a cameo) in the biggest Batman comics written in the 80's either: The Dark Knight Returns, Year One, The Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum.

Batman/Bruce Wayne is a renaissance man genius in the comics, in Batman Begins he is dumber than an African. This is entirely political.

The actions of his ancestors have thematic significance. The Wayne family going back generations is portrayed as liberal in Batman Begins, favouring integration with the black underclass. Within the text of the film, this is considered moral.​

Who were they supposed to cast as Fox? He's black. Are they supposed to not have a research director character?

Bruce Wayne/Batman is a genius sleuth and inventor. Lucius Fox is a recent magical negro character.

1979 isn't recent. Since 1979, Batman has been a detective but not an engineer.

 

[Biowaste Removal]

That series was KEKFUEL, his fiance who he white knighted for 2 movies to save ended up leaving him for a bigger chad despite the fact that hes a literal superhero, then she got killed by the joker and chad with his little feelings couldn't handle it and went into solitary confinement for 7 years and after he came out he immediately got turned into Bane's bitch

 

[Uggo Mongo]

1979 isn't recent. Since 1979, Batman has been a detective but not an engineer.

Uh, yeah it is, Batman debuted in like 1940. That's 4 decades, and the character was not used in any of the most popular, iconic, flagship titles until recently.

 

[Redbeard7]

Who were they supposed to cast as Fox? He's black. Are they supposed to not have a research director character?



1979 isn't recent. Since 1979, Batman has been a detective but not an engineer.

They didn't need to cast anyone as Fox. He didn't exist for the first 40 years of Batman's existence and didn't appear in any of the biggest Batman comics. He's a fringe politically correct character.

"Since 1979, Batman has been a detective but not an engineer."

Stop lying. Batman is a renaissance man genius in the post-80's comics as well. How many Batman comics have you read?​

 

[Redbeard7]

That series was KEKFUEL, his fiance who he white knighted for 2 movies to save ended up leaving him for a bigger chad despite the fact that hes a literal superhero, then she got killed by the joker and chad with his little feelings couldn't handle it and went into solitary confinement for 7 years and after he came out he immediately got turned into Bane's bitch

I see it as immensely subversive propaganda. And Bane himself was Talia/Catwoman's bitch. All of the masculine characters are shat on in some way. Even the hero Anglo/Aryan Chads are feminist cuckolds!

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[Bianor]

Dnr but fuck batman

 

[Biowaste Removal]

I see it as immensely subversive propaganda. And Bane himself was Talia/Catwoman's bitch. All of the masculine characters are shat on in some way. Even the hero Anglo/Aryan Chads are feminist cuckolds!

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The morality of The Dark Knight (2008)

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So it was essentially a feminist movie series. When I first watched it as a kid I didn't understand the Talia storyline at all I just enjoyed watching Bane beat the living shit out of niggas.

 

[Redbeard7]

So it was essentially a feminist movie series. When I first watched it as a kid I didn't understand the Talia storyline at all I just enjoyed watching Bane beat the living shit out of niggas.

Feminism is one of the primary themes. It's meant to impart on the audience subconsciously that if even gigachads Wayne and Dent are feminist cuckolds, then the average or below average (white/European) man certainly should be.

But my analysis goes well beyond feminism. Nolan and Goyer's Batman series is subversive on many different levels.​

 

[FrothySolutions]

Uh, yeah it is, Batman debuted in like 1940. That's 4 decades, and the character was not used in any of the most popular, iconic, flagship titles until recently.

Because there are precious few comics about how Batman Begins, and fewer still about where he gets his tech. For the most part they go "Eh, well, it's WayneTech. He gets it somewhere/somehow from the Wayne company."

They didn't need to cast anyone as Fox. He didn't exist for the first 40 years of Batman's existence and didn't appear in any of the biggest Batman comics. He's a fringe politically correct character.

"Since 1979, Batman has been a detective but not an engineer."

Stop lying. Batman is a renaissance man genius in the post-80's comics as well. How many Batman comics have you read?​

Not enough where I've ever seen Batman as the originator of all his own tech. They either handwave it, or it came from a close ally within the Wayne company.

 

[Redbeard7]

Because there are precious few comics about how Batman Begins, and fewer still about where he gets his tech. For the most part they go "Eh, well, it's WayneTech. He gets it somewhere/somehow from the Wayne company."



Not enough where I've ever seen Batman as the originator of all his own tech. They either handwave it, or it came from a close ally within the Wayne company.

Why do you think Len Wein created the character of Lucius Fox (genius African scientist and CEO!) 40 years in? He's a magical negro character designed to increase diversity and veneration of blacks.

"And what does his great great grandfather have to do with anything?"

The subversive creators of the film thought it had importance or they would have omitted the line! It added nothing to the film except to align the Wayne family and by extension Batman with the social integration of the black underclass.

The fact that you are still arguing shows that you are either: 1. stupid 2. trolling

I have no desire to interact with stupid people or trolls.​

 

[FrothySolutions]

Why do you think Len Wein created the character of Lucius Fox (genius African scientist and CEO!) 40 years in? He's a magical negro character designed to increase diversity and veneration of blacks.​

Even if Lucius was introduced to hit their diversity quota, that's a Batman thing. Not specifically a Nolan Trilogy thing. But the real question is, why can't Lucius be black? Does it have to "be about something" for Lucius to be black? Why can't he just be a character that happens to be black, and not meant to be a message about anything?

"And what does his great great grandfather have to do with anything?"

The subversive creators of the film thought it had importance or they would have omitted the line! It added nothing to the film except to align the Wayne family and by extension Batman with the social integration of the black underclass.​

It adds a believable, "non-comic-booky" reason for there to be a Batcave in Nolan's gritty and realistic Batman story. But my question is, what does that have to do with the Waynes getting killed? Those are two unrelated things.

 

[curryboy420]

Batman is a fag everyone would be cool with 10 billion dollars