Ryo_Hazuki
Original recipe mod from the Serge regime.
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I remember when I got hired for the second job I ever had. I literally just walked into the store, filled out an application (which was only a single page) and the assistant manager came out to the dining area and spoke with me for maybe 5 minutes. I didn't even realize it, but that was actually the interview, very informal. The next day I got a call telling me when my hours were and when to pick up my uniform. They didn't even ask for a resume or references. This was back in 2006, and while this was just a burger flipping job, you won't find an employer anywhere that has such a simple hiring process...not even for minimum wage work.
I recently got a second job (ergo why I've been posting less) but just trying to get this job was an absolute nightmare...and this is just part time, minimum wage. Employers these days make you jump through all sorts of hoops and hurdles for even the lowest paying jobs. The standard process now is to:
And considering how literally hundreds of people will apply to any given position even if it's minimum wage (job market equivalent of juggernaut law) that means you'll be doing the majority of the above steps many, many times before actually getting a job. Seriously looking for a job is like a part time (if not full time) job.
I know everyone here is wondering why I'm talking about the obvious...but the thing is, it wasn't always this way. And it wasn't even THAT long ago that things were different. When I first started working, many employers didn't even ask for a resume if it was minimum wage. What the fuck do people looking for a job right out of high school even put on a resume if they have no experience to begin with?
"B-But muh low unemployment numbers" For those who don't know, the "unemployment rate" (at least in the United States) is just the percent of people who are currently collecting unemployment. This heavily misleading statistic does NOT account for:
J-just be an plumber or eletrician bro! JFL at anyone who believes this meme. This is truly the epitome of boomer advice. This advice has been mindlessly thrown around for decades now. Many fell for this meme and as a result, these fields are as oversaturated as any. Trade schools have increased their tuition dramatically and most have long waiting lists because so many people are going.
At one of my old jobs, there was a guy who was a plumber, he was working 3rd shift and for minimum wage. He said it was decent pay if you got clients, but getting clients consistently was impossible. He was so desperate he was willing to travel up to an hour each way for a client. The fact that a plumber is working a second job, third shift, for minimum wage says a lot.
Almost forgot to mention this, but if you're ugly and one of your interviewers is a woman, your chances are very slim. If it's a woman over 45 you're chances are slightly better (in my experience, maybe you get a youth halo that could make you look acceptable enough if you're not TOO ugly) but if your interviewer is a millennial woman, IT'S OVER.
I recently got a second job (ergo why I've been posting less) but just trying to get this job was an absolute nightmare...and this is just part time, minimum wage. Employers these days make you jump through all sorts of hoops and hurdles for even the lowest paying jobs. The standard process now is to:
- Submit your resume
- Fill out application online
- Fill out a lengthy "personality" and or aptitude test online
- Wait for a call
- Get a call for an initial interview
- Show up in a pressed suit and tie along with a bunch of other applicants wearing pressed suits and ties all applying for the same minimum wage job
- Wait for a call for a second interview
- If you're lucky you'll get a second interview with someone higher up in the company
- Wait for a call AGAIN or, much more likely, an e-mail saying "we're considering other candidates at this time"
And considering how literally hundreds of people will apply to any given position even if it's minimum wage (job market equivalent of juggernaut law) that means you'll be doing the majority of the above steps many, many times before actually getting a job. Seriously looking for a job is like a part time (if not full time) job.
I know everyone here is wondering why I'm talking about the obvious...but the thing is, it wasn't always this way. And it wasn't even THAT long ago that things were different. When I first started working, many employers didn't even ask for a resume if it was minimum wage. What the fuck do people looking for a job right out of high school even put on a resume if they have no experience to begin with?
"B-But muh low unemployment numbers" For those who don't know, the "unemployment rate" (at least in the United States) is just the percent of people who are currently collecting unemployment. This heavily misleading statistic does NOT account for:
- People who quit their previous job (thus not eligible for unemployment)
- People who were on unemployment, but their benefits ran out but who are still unemployed
- People who were fired but were not able to get unemployment benefits because their employer fought it and won. (Most employers try to prevent you from getting unemployment benefits if you get fired because the more people who collect unemployment benefits who worked for them, the higher their unemployment insurance will be).
- People who have dropped out of the job market completely (This includes NEETs).
J-just be an plumber or eletrician bro! JFL at anyone who believes this meme. This is truly the epitome of boomer advice. This advice has been mindlessly thrown around for decades now. Many fell for this meme and as a result, these fields are as oversaturated as any. Trade schools have increased their tuition dramatically and most have long waiting lists because so many people are going.
At one of my old jobs, there was a guy who was a plumber, he was working 3rd shift and for minimum wage. He said it was decent pay if you got clients, but getting clients consistently was impossible. He was so desperate he was willing to travel up to an hour each way for a client. The fact that a plumber is working a second job, third shift, for minimum wage says a lot.
Almost forgot to mention this, but if you're ugly and one of your interviewers is a woman, your chances are very slim. If it's a woman over 45 you're chances are slightly better (in my experience, maybe you get a youth halo that could make you look acceptable enough if you're not TOO ugly) but if your interviewer is a millennial woman, IT'S OVER.