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Greetings bros. There's something that was brought to my attention that I think is important to talk about here and be aware of. I want to discuss the portrayal, vilification, and classification of incels as terrorists, and the motivations for why this may be happening on an institutional level. The idea that some introverted weaboo, who masturbates to (and on) his anime pillows who has never had a woman touch him on the arm even, is in the same category of criminal as Al-Qaeda operatives and insurgent paramilitary groups is not only laughably absurd but is already a reality in some countries and is in the process of becoming a reality in others. Ten years ago if you told the average normie that lonely, single, and mostly virgin males will be profiled and targeted by federal agencies because they are venting and voicing their frustrations online about their situations, he would think you're insane, retarded, and should have been aborted if you insisted that you were serious after he finished belly laughing.

This needs to be talked about more, because it can potentially affect each and every one of us on some level. Today's memeing and postmaxxing is tomorrow's background check flag, job application rejection, loan denial, extra customs screening or outright being on the no-fly list, or knock on your door by badges for questioning. What has led to this absolute clownery of the status quo is something that has gradually been building up over the years like sediment deposits. Only now is build-up becoming visibly hard to ignore. If this post seems like hot air, a joke, or mindless conspiracy ramblings to you, then just tell me I'm a gigacoping, low IQ cuck faggot who should neck himself. The least you'll be doing is bumping the thread. The important thing will be that you're thinking about the subject, being aware of what might be happening the scenes, and how this may ultimately be related to you.

You may have noticed, even in brief passing, that the mainstream internet media has a raging boner for incels and appears to do their damndest in misunderstanding and misrepresenting incels every chance they get. I specifically mentioned "internet" MSM, because the general MSM already is engineered for and targets the lowest common denominator: the person who turns off their brain when they turn on their television. Most of these people are missing their brain's on switches, but that's not the point. There's the consistent and asinine assertions of "radical ideology" and "incel movement" that I'm sure many of you have read and know about. They desperately want to convince the average person who's never even heard of the word "incel" that there's this homogenous belief system rooted in misogyny, sexual entitlement, violence, and the "alt-right." It's textbook propaganda at its most basic. So basic that even your cookie-cutter Marxist, gender studies student with a blog can understand and employ. Even the fucking Wikipedia page on incels is written, edited and moderated by a woman. JFL

The second common lie constantly told is that incels have a movement and that they call it, quite simply, the "incel movement." This implies that there's this "organization known as I.N.C.E.L." and they are organized, dangerous, and a threat to your local community. Sounds positively scary doesn't it? That's precisely their goal here. You first lie and misinform by using catch-all 'big bad' phrases like "radical ideology" ("what's radical?" don't think, viewer, let me do the thinking for you and tell you all about it using this very good looking and professional presenter on your screen), then you scare them by telling them they're a "movement," implying organization, structure, hierarchy, funding, internal policies and procedure, branches and departments, a mission statement and mandate, a shared underlying philosophy that binds all of its members, and everything else that constitutes a formal organization with a purpose. It's a one-two punch that can be delivered before the first advertisement break. Of course, the big fucking joke is that incels couldn't be more of a disparate and loosely connected collection of individuals who are as varied with their politics and ethnicities as the world contains. Never have I seen anywhere on the internet an anti-semitic Caucasian national socialist having a relatively civil engagement with an ethnic Israeli Jew without either side getting shamed or silenced. That alone tells you there's probably been more progress made here in a few posts than 50 years of Israel-Palestine talks.

What does this have to with incels being made to be the new bad guy in the public consciousness? This is about control and mainting influence. The globalist controllers want to censor the internet and have been trying to ever since it became commonplace. The internet, as an entity, has become something of a force. This force can shape and alter people's attitudes, emotions, and even deeply held beliefs to great effect and can even drive them to action. For example, the Arab Spring in recent years was made possible because groups of Arab citizens got together on Facebook and expressed their anger on the internet. They congregated to an online space and shared their anger and frustrations about the status quo with each other (sound familiar?). They then organized into a mob that disrupted their entire countries and threw them into chaos. Civil war and the overthrow of governments were the lunch specials being served. Imagine a bunch of posts on the internet making enough people angry to the point of toppling governments. That is the power of the internet. That kind of power is in the homes and pockets of billions of people. Those are billions of minds capable of being sprung into action by words on a fucking screen, like some unwitting sleeper agent who has had something hidden and dormant inside of them being activated. Many governments know this and some governments like China invest a lot of energy into keeping a tight lid on their domestic and foreign internet traffic.

The internet is a place where anybody can go and have real influence on others. When you speak face to face with someone your words touch their minds. You say something nice and they feel good. You say something mean and they feel bad. Children learn this simple fact early on when they learn a new bad word and test it on that one kid they don't like to see the effect it has on them. Imagine a beautiful woman tell you the words "you're hot." Imagine how fucking amazing hearing these words must make you feel as an ugly, sexual attention-starved male. Some of you here are larping chads so this shouldn't even be a problem for you, as you just have your recall last weekend or open your tinder chats.

This effect works much the same way with words on a screen. You can reach out across the world and touch minds. The same thing is happening when an author writes a book and your perspective on life completely changes. Richard Dawkins did this marvelously with his popular book, The God Delusion. Legions of religous people, mostly from the Abrahamic religions, left their religions and became atheists. Power of this kind of influence is available to anybody with a computer and an internet connection. This kind of power is a big problem for these controllers, because their traditonal means of influence through television and print media is under assault. For decades, billion (and now trillion) dollar corporations have controlled the narrarive through TV stations, newspapers and magazines. In order to shift public opinion (the beliefs and atittudes of the average person) and direct it towards a desired area or goal (like invading a country and pillaging their resources) you needed to have massive amounts of money poured into the system with lobbying greasing the right palms, building businesses that embed itself into the fabric of society and become a necessity of sorts, and have agents - both public and private- disseminated across multiple layers of society.

And now? Now Cleetus can have an internet channel with the help of the only member of his family who has half of his DNA from outside the family to set it up for him so he can rant about foreigners and faggots all day as he chews tobacco and suspiciously caresses a pig. You better believe that this guy will have at least one dedicated follower whose words will pour into his soul like a temple jug pouring holy wine into a chalice. Imagine this dude with a million subscribers. He could start his own cult consisting of a handful of his most obssessed followers, if he wanted. This sort of thing is reason why many social media spaces on the internet are being heavily censored. Their voices are being silenced and their ideas are being suppressed. They use unwitting agents from the political far left, who believe themselves to on the moral high ground and entitled to be the arbiters and moral police, to execute policies originating from outside the companies. Remember that slow and gradual changes go unnoticed, so this can take decades to get what you want (see: Overton window and how this phenomenon has broader applications than just in the domain of political opinions and discourse).

The truth is that governments and the corporations in league with them (or in charge of them) don't care about incels as a potential terrorist threat. "Terrorism" is just a buzzword used as a political strategy to help motivate and expedite the enacting of policies favorable to your own agenda. The real threat they fear is what incels represent: dissident elements within societies, who reject society, with no national, political, religious, or other ideological ties binding them, having the ability to congregate and speak openly in online spaces, with the potential to have an influence and effect on the system in ways that may disrupt their control. This is the real meaning the term "movement" when they use the phrase, "incel movemen." The controllers are afraid that, like incels, actual dissidents, insurrectionists, and other potential threats to the state - real, dangerous threats, not lonely virgins jacking off to furry porn - might congregate in online spaces and conspire to do serious harm to the state, its apparatuses and personnel, or to ordinary citizens. You think governments giving you the level of attention you dreamed your oneitis would give you are doing this because you say mean words about m'lady on the internet? Fucking KEK. Your anger and misery is being used by evil deep state actors in an effort to shame and censor you about the very things you're angry and miserable about.

Quote from a brocel:

"Imagine involuntarily being part of a movement you'd rather not be in. That is literally the incel community. If a girl would look past my subpar face and height, I wouldn't be incel, would I? But I can't because I'm not attractive enough. And FOR THAT, I am now a terrorist. Can't make this shit up. Simply because I can't get a girlfriend, I am now a terrorist."

If it sounds completely insane and retarded to you for governments to go after incels because of that, then I have some good news for you: You're smarter and saner than you give yourself credit for. Because yes, that would be completely insane and retarded. Make no mistake. This is about internet control and censorship. Incels are the easy target to scapegoat.

Some of you may already know of the upcoming session about incels being held by the EU next. I was made aware of this hours ago. On the surface of it this is peak clown world, but there is far more to this. Link below.

 
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Greetings bros. There's something that was brought to my attention that I think is important to talk about here and be aware of. I want to discuss the portrayal, vilification, and classification of incels as terrorists, and the motivations for why this may be happening on an institutional level. The idea that some introverted weaboo, who masturbates to (and on) his anime pillows who has never had a woman touch him on the arm even, is in the same category of criminal as Al-Qaeda operatives and insurgent paramilitary groups is not only laughably absurd but is already a reality in some countries and is in the process of becoming a reality in others. Ten years ago if you told the average normie that lonely, single, and mostly virgin males will be profiled and targeted by federal agencies because they are venting and voicing their frustrations online about their situations, he would think you're insane, retarded, and should have been aborted if you insisted that you were serious after he finished belly laughing.

This needs to be talked about more, because it can potentially affect each and every one of us on some level. Today's memeing and postmaxxing is tomorrow's background check flag, job application rejection, loan denial, extra customs screening or outright being on the no-fly list, or knock on your door by badges for questioning. What has led to this absolute clownery of the status quo is something that has gradually been building up over the years like sediment deposits. Only now is build-up becoming visibly hard to ignore. If this post seems like hot air, a joke, or mindless conspiracy ramblings to you, then just tell me I'm a gigacoping, low IQ cuck faggot who should neck himself. The least you'll be doing is bumping the thread. The important thing will be that you're thinking about the subject, being aware of what might be happening the scenes, and how this may ultimately be related to you.

You may have noticed, even in brief passing, that the mainstream internet media has a raging boner for incels and appears to do their damndest in misunderstanding and misrepresenting incels every chance they get. I specifically mentioned "internet" MSM, because the general MSM already is engineered for and targets the lowest common denominator: the person who turns off their brain when they turn on their television. Most of these people are missing their brain's on switches, but that's not the point. There's the consistent and asinine assertions of "radical ideology" and "incel movement" that I'm sure many of you have read and know about. They desperately want to convince the average person who's never even heard of the word "incel" that there's this homogenous belief system rooted in misogyny, sexual entitlement, violence, and the "alt-right." It's textbook propaganda at its most basic. So basic that even your cookie-cutter Marxist, gender studies student with a blog can understand and employ. Even the fucking Wikipedia page on incels is written, edited and moderated by a woman. JFL

The second common lie constantly told is that incels have a movement and that they call it, quite simply, the "incel movement." This implies that there's this "organization known as I.N.C.E.L." and they are organized, dangerous, and a threat to your local community. Sounds positively scary doesn't it? That's precisely their goal here. You first lie and misinform by using catch-all 'big bad' phrases like "radical ideology" ("what's radical?" don't think, viewer, let me do the thinking for you and tell you all about it using this very good looking and professional presenter on your screen), then you scare them by telling them they're a "movement," implying organization, structure, hierarchy, funding, internal policies and procedure, branches and departments, a mission statement and mandate, a shared underlying philosophy that binds all of its members, and everything else that constitutes a formal organization with a purpose. It's a one-two punch that can be delivered before the first advertisement break. Of course, the big fucking joke is that incels couldn't be more of a disparate and loosely connected collection of individuals who are as varied with their politics and ethnicities as the world contains. Never have I seen anywhere on the internet an anti-semitic Caucasian national socialist having a relatively civil engagement with an ethnic Israeli Jew without either side getting shamed or silenced. That alone tells you there's probably been more progress made here in a few posts than 50 years of Israel-Palestine talks.

What does this have to with incels being made to be the new bad guy in the public consciousness? This is about control and mainting influence. The globalist controllers want to censor the internet and have been trying to ever since it became commonplace. The internet, as an entity, has become something of a force. This force can shape and alter people's attitudes, emotions, and even deeply held beliefs to great effect and can even drive them to action. For example, the Arab Spring in recent years was made possible because groups of Arab citizens got together on Facebook and expressed their anger on the internet. They congregated to an online space and shared their anger and frustrations about the status quo with each other (sound familiar?). They then organized into a mob that disrupted their entire countries and threw them into chaos. Civil war and the overthrow of governments were the lunch specials being served. Imagine a bunch of posts on the internet making enough people angry to the point of toppling governments. That is the power of the internet. That kind of power is in the homes and pockets of billions of people. Those are billions of minds capable of being sprung into action by words on a fucking screen, like some unwitting sleeper agent who has had something hidden and dormant inside of them being activated. Many governments know this and some governments like China invest a lot of energy into keeping a tight lid on their domestic and foreign internet traffic.

The internet is a place where anybody can go and have real influence on others. When you speak face to face with someone your words touch their minds. You say something nice and they feel good. You say something mean and they feel bad. Children learn this simple fact early on when they learn a new bad word and test it on that one kid they don't like to see the effect it has on them. Imagine a beautiful woman tell you the words "you're hot." Imagine how fucking amazing hearing these words must make you feel as an ugly, sexual attention-starved male. Some of you here are larping chads so this shouldn't even be a problem for you, as you just have your recall last weekend or open your tinder chats.

This effect works much the same way with words on a screen. You can reach out across the world and touch minds. The same thing is happening when an author writes a book and your perspective on life completely changes. Richard Dawkins did this marvelously with his popular book, The God Delusion. Legions of religous people, mostly from the Abrahamic religions, left their religions and became atheists. Power of this kind of influence is available to anybody with a computer and an internet connection. This kind of power is a big problem for these controllers, because their traditonal means of influence through television and print media is under assault. For decades, billion (and now trillion) dollar corporations have controlled the narrarive through TV stations, newspapers and magazines. In order to shift public opinion (the beliefs and atittudes of the average person) and direct it towards a desired area or goal (like invading a country and pillaging their resources) you needed to have massive amounts of money poured into the system with lobbying greasing the right palms, building businesses that embed itself into the fabric of society and become a necessity of sorts, and have agents - both public and private- disseminated across multiple layers of society.

And now? Now Cleetus can have an internet channel with the help of the only member of his family who has half of his DNA from outside the family to set it up for him so he can rant about foreigners and faggots all day as he chews tobacco and suspiciously caresses a pig. You better believe that this guy will have at least one dedicated follower whose words will pour into his soul like a temple jug pouring holy wine into a chalice. Imagine this dude with a million subscribers. He could start his own cult consisting of a handful of his most obssessed followers, if he wanted. This sort of thing is reason why many social media spaces on the internet are being heavily censored. Their voices are being silenced and their ideas are being suppressed. They use unwitting agents from the political far left, who believe themselves to on the moral high ground and entitled to be the arbiters and moral police, to execute policies originating from outside the companies. Remember that slow and gradual changes go unnoticed, so this can take decades to get what you want (see: Overton window and how this phenomenon has broader applications than just in the domain of political opinions and discourse).

The truth is that governments and the corporations in league with them (or in charge of them) don't care about incels as a potential terrorist threat. "Terrorism" is just a buzzword used as a political strategy to help motivate and expedite the enacting of policies favorable to your own agenda. The real threat they fear is what incels represent: dissident elements within societies, who reject society, with no national, political, religious, or other ideological ties binding them, having the ability to congregate and speak openly in online spaces, with the potential to have an influence and effect on the system in ways that may disrupt their control. This is the real meaning the term "movement" when they use the phrase, "incel movemen." The controllers are afraid that, like incels, actual dissidents, insurrectionists, and other potential threats to the state - real, dangerous threats, not lonely virgins jacking off to furry porn - might congregate in online spaces and conspire to do serious harm to the state, its apparatuses and personnel, or to ordinary citizens. You think governments giving you the level of attention you dreamed your oneitis would give you are doing this because you say mean words about m'lady on the internet? Fucking KEK. Your anger and misery is being used by evil deep state actors in an effort to shame and censor you about the very things you're angry and miserable about.

Quote from a brocel:

"Imagine involuntarily being part of a movement you'd rather not be in. That is literally the incel community. If a girl would look past my subpar face and height, I wouldn't be incel, would I? But I can't because I'm not attractive enough. And FOR THAT, I am now a terrorist. Can't make this shit up. Simply because I can't get a girlfriend, I am now a terrorist."

If it sounds completely insane and retarded to you for governments to go after incels because of that, then I have some good news for you: You're smarter and saner than you give yourself credit for. Because yes, that would be completely insane and retarded. Make no mistake. This is about internet control and censorship. Incels are the easy target to scapegoat.

Some of you may already know of the upcoming session about incels being held by the EU next. I was made aware of this hours ago. On the surface of it this is peak clown world, but there is far more to this. Link below.

TLDR, please
 
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i read it all. i liked the similes and analogies.
it would have been nice to have a conclusion sentence that wraps up all your ideas and gives the “take-away from all this”.

high, high iq and an interesting read
 
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Greetings bros. There's something that was brought to my attention that I think is important to talk about here and be aware of. I want to discuss the portrayal, vilification, and classification of incels as terrorists, and the motivations for why this may be happening on an institutional level. The idea that some introverted weaboo, who masturbates to (and on) his anime pillows who has never had a woman touch him on the arm even, is in the same category of criminal as Al-Qaeda operatives and insurgent paramilitary groups is not only laughably absurd but is already a reality in some countries and is in the process of becoming a reality in others. Ten years ago if you told the average normie that lonely, single, and mostly virgin males will be profiled and targeted by federal agencies because they are venting and voicing their frustrations online about their situations, he would think you're insane, retarded, and should have been aborted if you insisted that you were serious after he finished belly laughing.

This needs to be talked about more, because it can potentially affect each and every one of us on some level. Today's memeing and postmaxxing is tomorrow's background check flag, job application rejection, loan denial, extra customs screening or outright being on the no-fly list, or knock on your door by badges for questioning. What has led to this absolute clownery of the status quo is something that has gradually been building up over the years like sediment deposits. Only now is build-up becoming visibly hard to ignore. If this post seems like hot air, a joke, or mindless conspiracy ramblings to you, then just tell me I'm a gigacoping, low IQ cuck faggot who should neck himself. The least you'll be doing is bumping the thread. The important thing will be that you're thinking about the subject, being aware of what might be happening the scenes, and how this may ultimately be related to you.

You may have noticed, even in brief passing, that the mainstream internet media has a raging boner for incels and appears to do their damndest in misunderstanding and misrepresenting incels every chance they get. I specifically mentioned "internet" MSM, because the general MSM already is engineered for and targets the lowest common denominator: the person who turns off their brain when they turn on their television. Most of these people are missing their brain's on switches, but that's not the point. There's the consistent and asinine assertions of "radical ideology" and "incel movement" that I'm sure many of you have read and know about. They desperately want to convince the average person who's never even heard of the word "incel" that there's this homogenous belief system rooted in misogyny, sexual entitlement, violence, and the "alt-right." It's textbook propaganda at its most basic. So basic that even your cookie-cutter Marxist, gender studies student with a blog can understand and employ. Even the fucking Wikipedia page on incels is written, edited and moderated by a woman. JFL

The second common lie constantly told is that incels have a movement and that they call it, quite simply, the "incel movement." This implies that there's this "organization known as I.N.C.E.L." and they are organized, dangerous, and a threat to your local community. Sounds positively scary doesn't it? That's precisely their goal here. You first lie and misinform by using catch-all 'big bad' phrases like "radical ideology" ("what's radical?" don't think, viewer, let me do the thinking for you and tell you all about it using this very good looking and professional presenter on your screen), then you scare them by telling them they're a "movement," implying organization, structure, hierarchy, funding, internal policies and procedure, branches and departments, a mission statement and mandate, a shared underlying philosophy that binds all of its members, and everything else that constitutes a formal organization with a purpose. It's a one-two punch that can be delivered before the first advertisement break. Of course, the big fucking joke is that incels couldn't be more of a disparate and loosely connected collection of individuals who are as varied with their politics and ethnicities as the world contains. Never have I seen anywhere on the internet an anti-semitic Caucasian national socialist having a relatively civil engagement with an ethnic Israeli Jew without either side getting shamed or silenced. That alone tells you there's probably been more progress made here in a few posts than 50 years of Israel-Palestine talks.

What does this have to with incels being made to be the new bad guy in the public consciousness? This is about control and mainting influence. The globalist controllers want to censor the internet and have been trying to ever since it became commonplace. The internet, as an entity, has become something of a force. This force can shape and alter people's attitudes, emotions, and even deeply held beliefs to great effect and can even drive them to action. For example, the Arab Spring in recent years was made possible because groups of Arab citizens got together on Facebook and expressed their anger on the internet. They congregated to an online space and shared their anger and frustrations about the status quo with each other (sound familiar?). They then organized into a mob that disrupted their entire countries and threw them into chaos. Civil war and the overthrow of governments were the lunch specials being served. Imagine a bunch of posts on the internet making enough people angry to the point of toppling governments. That is the power of the internet. That kind of power is in the homes and pockets of billions of people. Those are billions of minds capable of being sprung into action by words on a fucking screen, like some unwitting sleeper agent who has had something hidden and dormant inside of them being activated. Many governments know this and some governments like China invest a lot of energy into keeping a tight lid on their domestic and foreign internet traffic.

The internet is a place where anybody can go and have real influence on others. When you speak face to face with someone your words touch their minds. You say something nice and they feel good. You say something mean and they feel bad. Children learn this simple fact early on when they learn a new bad word and test it on that one kid they don't like to see the effect it has on them. Imagine a beautiful woman tell you the words "you're hot." Imagine how fucking amazing hearing these words must make you feel as an ugly, sexual attention-starved male. Some of you here are larping chads so this shouldn't even be a problem for you, as you just have your recall last weekend or open your tinder chats.

This effect works much the same way with words on a screen. You can reach out across the world and touch minds. The same thing is happening when an author writes a book and your perspective on life completely changes. Richard Dawkins did this marvelously with his popular book, The God Delusion. Legions of religous people, mostly from the Abrahamic religions, left their religions and became atheists. Power of this kind of influence is available to anybody with a computer and an internet connection. This kind of power is a big problem for these controllers, because their traditonal means of influence through television and print media is under assault. For decades, billion (and now trillion) dollar corporations have controlled the narrarive through TV stations, newspapers and magazines. In order to shift public opinion (the beliefs and atittudes of the average person) and direct it towards a desired area or goal (like invading a country and pillaging their resources) you needed to have massive amounts of money poured into the system with lobbying greasing the right palms, building businesses that embed itself into the fabric of society and become a necessity of sorts, and have agents - both public and private- disseminated across multiple layers of society.

And now? Now Cleetus can have an internet channel with the help of the only member of his family who has half of his DNA from outside the family to set it up for him so he can rant about foreigners and faggots all day as he chews tobacco and suspiciously caresses a pig. You better believe that this guy will have at least one dedicated follower whose words will pour into his soul like a temple jug pouring holy wine into a chalice. Imagine this dude with a million subscribers. He could start his own cult consisting of a handful of his most obssessed followers, if he wanted. This sort of thing is reason why many social media spaces on the internet are being heavily censored. Their voices are being silenced and their ideas are being suppressed. They use unwitting agents from the political far left, who believe themselves to on the moral high ground and entitled to be the arbiters and moral police, to execute policies originating from outside the companies. Remember that slow and gradual changes go unnoticed, so this can take decades to get what you want (see: Overton window and how this phenomenon has broader applications than just in the domain of political opinions and discourse).

The truth is that governments and the corporations in league with them (or in charge of them) don't care about incels as a potential terrorist threat. "Terrorism" is just a buzzword used as a political strategy to help motivate and expedite the enacting of policies favorable to your own agenda. The real threat they fear is what incels represent: dissident elements within societies, who reject society, with no national, political, religious, or other ideological ties binding them, having the ability to congregate and speak openly in online spaces, with the potential to have an influence and effect on the system in ways that may disrupt their control. This is the real meaning the term "movement" when they use the phrase, "incel movemen." The controllers are afraid that, like incels, actual dissidents, insurrectionists, and other potential threats to the state - real, dangerous threats, not lonely virgins jacking off to furry porn - might congregate in online spaces and conspire to do serious harm to the state, its apparatuses and personnel, or to ordinary citizens. You think governments giving you the level of attention you dreamed your oneitis would give you are doing this because you say mean words about m'lady on the internet? Fucking KEK. Your anger and misery is being used by evil deep state actors in an effort to shame and censor you about the very things you're angry and miserable about.

Quote from a brocel:

"Imagine involuntarily being part of a movement you'd rather not be in. That is literally the incel community. If a girl would look past my subpar face and height, I wouldn't be incel, would I? But I can't because I'm not attractive enough. And FOR THAT, I am now a terrorist. Can't make this shit up. Simply because I can't get a girlfriend, I am now a terrorist."

If it sounds completely insane and retarded to you for governments to go after incels because of that, then I have some good news for you: You're smarter and saner than you give yourself credit for. Because yes, that would be completely insane and retarded. Make no mistake. This is about internet control and censorship. Incels are the easy target to scapegoat.

Some of you may already know of the upcoming session about incels being held by the EU next. I was made aware of this hours ago. On the surface of it this is peak clown world, but there is far more to this. Link below.

Great to see you back.
I agree incels are being used as a scapegoat but that doesn't mean we still shouldn't take it personally that they are trying to use us as a means to their ends.

As usual the media lies and useful idiot liberals believe them but make no mistake that like many others the media's gynocentric bias is intact (see how they downplay male casualties (ie "this many dead, including this many women and children") and so they like to distract attention off people in power with culture wars bullshit pandering to women L @Lebensmüder
 
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All that is well and good but what do we do about it. One obvious problem we have is that sooner or later, this website is going to be nuked out of orbit. And then what shall we do? There aren't many places left
 
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All that is well and good but what do we do about it. One obvious problem we have is that sooner or later, this website is going to be nuked out of orbit. And then what shall we do? There aren't many places left
mNFwTJ3wz9 @mNFwTJ3wz9 has discussed the need to move away from relying on cloud infrastructure
 
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you're back :feelsgah:

Hey brocel.

WorldYamataizer said:
i read it all. i liked the similes and analogies.
it would have been nice to have a conclusion sentence that wraps up all your ideas and gives the “take-away from all this”.

high, high iq and an interesting read

Thanks for reading. The conclusion is intended last two sentences of the second to last paragraph. I don't like concluding paragraphs that sum everything up as if you're giving some speech and reminding everyone why they wasted their time listening to you. Also, I'm bad at writing them. I know it's bad form, but fuck it. The last paragraph is just an addendum for the members and isn't really supposed to be part of the main body.
 
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your personality said:
mNFwTJ3wz9 @mNFwTJ3wz9 has discussed the need to move away from relying on cloud infrastructure
And what is his conclusion?
 
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And what is his conclusion?
Can't reveal too much here but obviously relying on centralized web hosts that are in the cloud leaves you very vulnerable to when cancel culture mobs demand web hosts deplatform certain sites
 
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Can't reveal too much here but obviously relying on centralized web hosts that are in the cloud leaves you very vulnerable to when cancel culture mobs demand web hosts deplatform certain sites
Are there P2P bulletin board software available? Many incels are gamers and have fairly large gaming rigs that they leave on all the time. That would be a good infrastructure for P2P
 
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Are there P2P bulletin board software available? Many incels are gamers and have fairly large gaming rigs that they leave on all the time. That would be a good infrastructure for P2P
mNFwTJ3wz9 @mNFwTJ3wz9 might be open to discussing the finer details by dm
 
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All that is well and good but what do we do about it. One obvious problem we have is that sooner or later, this website is going to be nuked out of orbit. And then what shall we do? There aren't many places left

That's the idea. Nuke what's left and stop new ones from popping up. Most of us will become cut off and isolated online, as a result.
 
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Great to see you back.
I agree incels are being used as a scapegoat but that doesn't mean we still shouldn't take it personally that they are trying to use us as a means to their ends.

As usual the media lies and useful idiot liberals believe them but make no mistake that like many others the media's gynocentric bias is intact (see how they downplay male casualties (ie "this many dead, including this many women and children") and so they like to distract attention off people in power with culture wars bullshit pandering to women L @Lebensmüder
Brutal thread.
 
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He's back! :feelsLightsaber: :feelsLightsaber: :feelsLightsaber:

Great post btw, read it all.
 
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All that is well and good but what do we do about it. One obvious problem we have is that sooner or later, this website is going to be nuked out of orbit. And then what shall we do? There aren't many places left
The suffering continues, we’re just not suffering together, but truly alone.
 
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He's back! :feelsLightsaber: :feelsLightsaber: :feelsLightsaber:

Great post btw, read it all.

Thanks for reading brocel.
 
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Great post. Read everything.
If the elite takes control of the internet like they intend, we are back to square zero.
 
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Great post. Read everything.
If the elite takes control of the internet like they intend, we are back to square zero.
Thanks for reading. It's the only thing that makes sense of the way incels are being targeted by governments. They cite the concern of "radicalization," but we know that's the bullshit reason for the public. What does that word even mean in this context? It just means being pushed over the edge and going ER. That can happen to literally anyone that gets pushed over the edge. Just look at how many people in the US shoot up their former (or current) place of employment. Hell, just look at that recent double murder over the bullying neighbor shoveling snow onto another's driveway. Everybody has a breaking point. That's nothing new.
 
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Totally agree.... and I would claim the following:
1. We are an input in the "Crime Manufacturing" machine
2. We are physically harmless but the Blackpill is truly dangerous
3. A possible resolution

1. We are an input in the "Crime Manufacturing" machine
I don't think that they really targeting incels because they have no reason to do that. They have the data, the numbers, and the intel and all of it point to a simple fact: incels are by far the most disenfranchised and obscure humans in society. Therefore, assuming they have a positive IQ, they would not see incels as a threat because we are not a threat. We are sub-humans deemed to Rot-and-Rope. BUT, it would not prevent them to label us as a threat and create a boogeyman to justify certain policies aimed at further accumulation of power.

Specifically, I think that they will use "radical ideology" and "incel movement" to create imaginary-threats in order to broaden the number of crimes. Think about it... The longer the list of accusations and "extremISMs" the easier it is for the power havers to turn innocent people into criminals and deprive them of rights. They are using us to invent new crimes and broaden this list so it would be easier for them to convict people (both incels and non-incels). I recall Orwell's 1984 (I recall it too much recently) and its "facecrime". A kid's life can already be ruined if he smiles in the wrong way:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/covington-catholic-maga-hatcrime-facecrime/

So...They need our "community" to be used as a Precedent of a dangerous group that should be pacified by a new judicial method. It will provide them with a way out of the stare decisis and broaden the list of crimes and provide them with more policing tools. Think how many new crimes can be invented by just looking at the posts on this forum... We are a damn gold mine for new crimes. And, tbh, I think inventing new crimes and getting a moral superiority trip is the thing they love the most. They really want to be the moral police, as you said.

But despite the fact that we will be used to create panic the crimes will not be used explicitly against incels. Rather also against other "extremists". You listed some of them but there are many more some have no relation to inceldoom whatsoever.

2. We are physically harmless but the Blackpill is truly dangerous
Incels are damn dangerous. Not because some incels went ER. ER is BS - a fart in the wind in the world of security threats. But the Blackpill and our obsession with it and its spreading is dangerous.

The Blackpill is the only tool we have to protect ourselves. A list of peer review articles and a set of inconvenient facts is all we have! But this is a brutal force and a real danger for the power structure.

The real danger of incels.co is that it is free and relatively open-minded. Infinitely open-minded in comparison to Reddit :soy:. They have to find an excuse to close such sites and accusation in some contrived crime is a great and easy way to get rid of platforms like this that allow discussion that is not allowed under the PC dictatorship.

Incels are dangerous because a small fraction of us is coping by reading books, by searching for more blackpilled researches, by arguing and blackpilling normies, and even by writing high IQ posts here. This is dangerous because once the slave becomes aware of his shekels and the possibility of freedom the slavery-based regime is doomed. The slaves in this metaphor are the normies, not us. We are the potential liberators. And I am not coping by overestimating our place in life. A large chunk of history was written by subhuman incels that started to write and talk to normie masses.

So they have to thread each and every free-thinking person as dangerous. They have no other choice if they want to maintain power. And I don't know where else during these days you could find free-thinking people. Definitely not in academia. So in a sense, they are fighting the knowledge that incels produce and discus. Our knowledge is quite unique since it is mainly produced by means and with the "help" of our incessant suffering. No spoiled bourgeoisie elitist scum can produce such knowledge, how would he? He never suffered!

where else on the Internet it is allowed to discuss female nature? Perhaps on some MGTOW-like redpill semi-blackpilled site. But from what I saw on these forums they are nothing like this one. MGTOW is an intellectual diet when compared to the blackpilled. I think it is even more true if you assume that the blackpill can be applied to other realms of life and not just to the sexual sphere. Think politics, economics, and almost every social sphere. Everywhere you see masters and slaves. The blackpill unveils the essence of social relationships and exposes who are the "Chads" and for whom "it's over". It is crucial for the master to keep the sheep in total oblivion and in the hamster's wheel.

3. A possible resolution
I already apologize for proposing it. It is bluepiled AF, but tell me what do you think...

As Orwell wrote:
"It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away."

We have let out our most wicked and ugly thoughts. We have no one to blame except ourselves. Our PR is terrible. And it is multiplied by the psychotic Orwellin attitudes of our society which make things even worst. But as trucels we know that things can always become worse.

But how can you blame a person that knew no joy in being resentful?
How can a hell dweller be healed?
One should be absolutely Heartless to blame incels for being resentful. Pain is all we know. Yet, you shall have no doubt that they will blame us.

But in this regard, if an incel advocacy group will ever rise, I think it should (as much as possible) to adopt the victim mentality and the victim discourse to pursue our goals. In response to being blamed, we have to explain that we are victims of the bully, of the unjust economic system, that we cannot find jobs, that we are deemed to live in hell. But we should do all this within the limits of the PC lingo in a non-challenging way. What I mean is that we should protect ourselves with the bluepill and that protecting ourselves with the blackpill is absolutely counter producing, and in fact dangerous. They don't give a damn about the truth anyway.

I am not saying that we have to abandon the blackpill. what I do say is that we have to protect ourselves with the bluepill if an advocacy group is created.

Cheers!
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BenBerger said:
Totally agree.... and I would claim the following:
1. We are an input in the "Crime Manufacturing" machine
2. We are physically harmless but the Blackpill is truly dangerous
3. A possible resolution

1. We are an input in the "Crime Manufacturing" machine
I don't think that they really targeting incels because they have no reason to do that. They have the data, the numbers, and the intel and all of it point to a simple fact: incels are by far the most disenfranchised and obscure humans in society. Therefore, assuming they have a positive IQ, they would not see incels as a threat because we are not a threat. We are sub-humans deemed to Rot-and-Rope. BUT, it would not prevent them to label us as a threat and create a boogeyman to justify certain policies aimed at further accumulation of power.

Specifically, I think that they will use "radical ideology" and "incel movement" to create imaginary-threats in order to broaden the number of crimes. Think about it... The longer the list of accusations and "extremISMs" the easier it is for the power havers to turn innocent people into criminals and deprive them of rights. They are using us to invent new crimes and broaden this list so it would be easier for them to convict people (both incels and non-incels). I recall Orwell's 1984 (I recall it too much recently) and its "facecrime". A kid's life can already be ruined if he smiles in the wrong way:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/covington-catholic-maga-hatcrime-facecrime/

So...They need our "community" to be used as a Precedent of a dangerous group that should be pacified by a new judicial method. It will provide them with a way out of the stare decisis and broaden the list of crimes and provide them with more policing tools. Think how many new crimes can be invented by just looking at the posts on this forum... We are a damn gold mine for new crimes. And, tbh, I think inventing new crimes and getting a moral superiority trip is the thing they love the most. They really want to be the moral police, as you said.

But despite the fact that we will be used to create panic the crimes will not be used explicitly against incels. Rather also against other "extremists". You listed some of them but there are many more some have no relation to inceldoom whatsoever.
I think this has already started happening in some capacity. In the UK, for example, misogyny is now a crime (as of a few years, if I recall). Saying anything negative about women can land you in jail, but misandry is not a crime. This is already thought policing aka a very intimate form of censoring. Before incels were in the public consciousness, this sort of thought policing occurred with using something like holocaust denial, such as how it's been made illegal in today's Germany.

But using incels as tools to create new crimes is still in its infancy. Making a crime out of misogyny, for example, looks like it was a canary in the coal mine of this process to see how the public reacts to criminalizing some thoughts. I do believe that incels, as a utility of novel policy creation and enactment, is rather limited in scope i.e., there are only so many new draconian laws you can legislate in the name of protecting against evil inkwells before people go, "wait, this is getting absurd."

BenBerger said:
2. We are physically harmless but the Blackpill is truly dangerous
Incels are damn dangerous. Not because some incels went ER. ER is BS - a fart in the wind in the world of security threats. But the Blackpill and our obsession with it and its spreading is dangerous.

The Blackpill is the only tool we have to protect ourselves. A list of peer review articles and a set of inconvenient facts is all we have! But this is a brutal force and a real danger for the power structure.

The real danger of incels.co is that it is free and relatively open-minded. Infinitely open-minded in comparison to Reddit :soy:. They have to find an excuse to close such sites and accusation in some contrived crime is a great and easy way to get rid of platforms like this that allow discussion that is not allowed under the PC dictatorship.

Incels are dangerous because a small fraction of us is coping by reading books, by searching for more blackpilled researches, by arguing and blackpilling normies, and even by writing high IQ posts here. This is dangerous because once the slave becomes aware of his shekels and the possibility of freedom the slavery-based regime is doomed. The slaves in this metaphor are the normies, not us. We are the potential liberators. And I am not coping by overestimating our place in life. A large chunk of history was written by subhuman incels that started to write and talk to normie masses.

So they have to thread each and every free-thinking person as dangerous. They have no other choice if they want to maintain power. And I don't know where else during these days you could find free-thinking people. Definitely not in academia. So in a sense, they are fighting the knowledge that incels produce and discus. Our knowledge is quite unique since it is mainly produced by means and with the "help" of our incessant suffering. No spoiled bourgeoisie elitist scum can produce such knowledge, how would he? He never suffered!

where else on the Internet it is allowed to discuss female nature? Perhaps on some MGTOW-like redpill semi-blackpilled site. But from what I saw on these forums they are nothing like this one. MGTOW is an intellectual diet when compared to the blackpilled. I think it is even more true if you assume that the blackpill can be applied to other realms of life and not just to the sexual sphere. Think politics, economics, and almost every social sphere. Everywhere you see masters and slaves. The blackpill unveils the essence of social relationships and exposes who are the "Chads" and for whom "it's over". It is crucial for the master to keep the sheep in total oblivion and in the hamster's wheel.
Yes, the black pill is indeed the real danger. I have commented about this exact thing before. Ideas can be dangerous, but the black pill is a blue print for every dangerous idea out there. To clarify, dangerous here refers to dangerous against establishment power and control. Imagine if all of the North Korean people got black pilled overnight about their government. Good luck, Kim Jong Un, you would need it, buddy boyo.

The essense of the black pill is a stripping away of layers to see the fundamental truth about something. To get at the core of something is to understand it at the most basic level. This process of stripping away layers and reaching some fundamental truth incorporates many already existing ideas and methods (science, for example), but it does so in a very brutal, apathetic, unapologetic, and apolitical way. It encourages skepticism and rational inquiry, both philosophical and scientific, in a way that is independent of - and even combative towards - agenda influences.

Applied to the incel quagmire, it seeks to establish and understand truths about the realities of dating, women, and social and sexual relationships. Many people, even here, misunderstand the black pill and reduce it to grossly simplistic statement such, "looks are everything," (this is one important black pill but not what the black pill ultimately is), or they misunderstand the black pill as some form of repackaged neo-nihilism.

This is precisely why I think they're clamping down hard on incels. It's the looming threat, albeit distant, of the black pill. Better to control the best way to spread the black pill - the internet. You can't control an idea, but you can cage it.

BenBerger said:
3. A possible resolution
I already apologize for proposing it. It is bluepiled AF, but tell me what do you think...

As Orwell wrote:
"It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away."

We have let out our most wicked and ugly thoughts. We have no one to blame except ourselves. Our PR is terrible. And it is multiplied by the psychotic Orwellin attitudes of our society which make things even worst. But as trucels we know that things can always become worse.

But how can you blame a person that knew no joy in being resentful?
How can a hell dweller be healed?
One should be absolutely Heartless to blame incels for being resentful. Pain is all we know. Yet, you shall have no doubt that they will blame us.

But in this regard, if an incel advocacy group will ever rise, I think it should (as much as possible) to adopt the victim mentality and the victim discourse to pursue our goals. In response to being blamed, we have to explain that we are victims of the bully, of the unjust economic system, that we cannot find jobs, that we are deemed to live in hell. But we should do all this within the limits of the PC lingo in a non-challenging way. What I mean is that we should protect ourselves with the bluepill and that protecting ourselves with the blackpill is absolutely counter producing, and in fact dangerous. They don't give a damn about the truth anyway.

I am not saying that we have to abandon the blackpill. what I do say is that we have to protect ourselves with the bluepill if an advocacy group is created.

Cheers!
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Perhaps I'm short sighted or have limited vision, but in all honesty I don't see much benefit in politicizing our situation and suffering, and couching the black pill in the blue pill to be more palatable for the public and garner support at the policy level. We could play the progressives' own game against them (create new memes like "looks shaming" women, analogous to how women "fat shame" men, as an example) but the risk-reward is not worth the effort. We would need public figures, financial backing, and we need need to effectively act like propagandists (which is ironic, considering the black pill). In short, the "start-up cost" is very high and, at best maybe, we'd have a positive effect cuturally. You could make an argument at the institutional level and claim that legions of men checking out of society, because they've been effectively selected out of the gene pool and aren't invested in society any longer, will impact the government in measurable and immediately foreseeable ways. The start-up cost of that is even higher.

The fundamental and underlying issues would remain present. You can't legislate against human nature. People tried to do so with feminism, for example, when they forced egalitarianism across multiple domains of life, notably in the workforce. It turns out, you can't make people equal by decree or ideology. Hypergamy in a society and culture won't simply go away because men and women are doing the same jobs. They still want a man who is in a higher position relative to them financially and in terms of status. Likewise, lookism biases such as the halo effect aren't going to disappear if it's now culturally taboo to discriminate against fugly people. Chad/stacy privileges might be reduced, but likely not by much.

NoCopeNoHope @NoCopeNoHope has the right idea, I think. We need to focus our efforts on technology - artifical wombs, AI bots, that sort of thing. We're already living in the mouse utopia experiment. The question is if we can pool our collective efforts to splinter off and create a viable society over time. We won't live long enough to see that become reality, but I believe it would be very similar to a Huxleyan future.
 
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based_meme said:
Greetings bros. There's something that was brought to my attention that I think is important to talk about here and be aware of. I want to discuss the portrayal, vilification, and classification of incels as terrorists, and the motivations for why this may be happening on an institutional level. The idea that some introverted weaboo, who masturbates to (and on) his anime pillows who has never had a woman touch him on the arm even, is in the same category of criminal as Al-Qaeda operatives and insurgent paramilitary groups is not only laughably absurd but is already a reality in some countries and is in the process of becoming a reality in others. Ten years ago if you told the average normie that lonely, single, and mostly virgin males will be profiled and targeted by federal agencies because they are venting and voicing their frustrations online about their situations, he would think you're insane, retarded, and should have been aborted if you insisted that you were serious after he finished belly laughing.

This needs to be talked about more, because it can potentially affect each and every one of us on some level. Today's memeing and postmaxxing is tomorrow's background check flag, job application rejection, loan denial, extra customs screening or outright being on the no-fly list, or knock on your door by badges for questioning. What has led to this absolute clownery of the status quo is something that has gradually been building up over the years like sediment deposits. Only now is build-up becoming visibly hard to ignore. If this post seems like hot air, a joke, or mindless conspiracy ramblings to you, then just tell me I'm a gigacoping, low IQ cuck faggot who should neck himself. The least you'll be doing is bumping the thread. The important thing will be that you're thinking about the subject, being aware of what might be happening the scenes, and how this may ultimately be related to you.

You may have noticed, even in brief passing, that the mainstream internet media has a raging boner for incels and appears to do their damndest in misunderstanding and misrepresenting incels every chance they get. I specifically mentioned "internet" MSM, because the general MSM already is engineered for and targets the lowest common denominator: the person who turns off their brain when they turn on their television. Most of these people are missing their brain's on switches, but that's not the point. There's the consistent and asinine assertions of "radical ideology" and "incel movement" that I'm sure many of you have read and know about. They desperately want to convince the average person who's never even heard of the word "incel" that there's this homogenous belief system rooted in misogyny, sexual entitlement, violence, and the "alt-right." It's textbook propaganda at its most basic. So basic that even your cookie-cutter Marxist, gender studies student with a blog can understand and employ. Even the fucking Wikipedia page on incels is written, edited and moderated by a woman. JFL

The second common lie constantly told is that incels have a movement and that they call it, quite simply, the "incel movement." This implies that there's this "organization known as I.N.C.E.L." and they are organized, dangerous, and a threat to your local community. Sounds positively scary doesn't it? That's precisely their goal here. You first lie and misinform by using catch-all 'big bad' phrases like "radical ideology" ("what's radical?" don't think, viewer, let me do the thinking for you and tell you all about it using this very good looking and professional presenter on your screen), then you scare them by telling them they're a "movement," implying organization, structure, hierarchy, funding, internal policies and procedure, branches and departments, a mission statement and mandate, a shared underlying philosophy that binds all of its members, and everything else that constitutes a formal organization with a purpose. It's a one-two punch that can be delivered before the first advertisement break. Of course, the big fucking joke is that incels couldn't be more of a disparate and loosely connected collection of individuals who are as varied with their politics and ethnicities as the world contains. Never have I seen anywhere on the internet an anti-semitic Caucasian national socialist having a relatively civil engagement with an ethnic Israeli Jew without either side getting shamed or silenced. That alone tells you there's probably been more progress made here in a few posts than 50 years of Israel-Palestine talks.

What does this have to with incels being made to be the new bad guy in the public consciousness? This is about control and mainting influence. The globalist controllers want to censor the internet and have been trying to ever since it became commonplace. The internet, as an entity, has become something of a force. This force can shape and alter people's attitudes, emotions, and even deeply held beliefs to great effect and can even drive them to action. For example, the Arab Spring in recent years was made possible because groups of Arab citizens got together on Facebook and expressed their anger on the internet. They congregated to an online space and shared their anger and frustrations about the status quo with each other (sound familiar?). They then organized into a mob that disrupted their entire countries and threw them into chaos. Civil war and the overthrow of governments were the lunch specials being served. Imagine a bunch of posts on the internet making enough people angry to the point of toppling governments. That is the power of the internet. That kind of power is in the homes and pockets of billions of people. Those are billions of minds capable of being sprung into action by words on a fucking screen, like some unwitting sleeper agent who has had something hidden and dormant inside of them being activated. Many governments know this and some governments like China invest a lot of energy into keeping a tight lid on their domestic and foreign internet traffic.

The internet is a place where anybody can go and have real influence on others. When you speak face to face with someone your words touch their minds. You say something nice and they feel good. You say something mean and they feel bad. Children learn this simple fact early on when they learn a new bad word and test it on that one kid they don't like to see the effect it has on them. Imagine a beautiful woman tell you the words "you're hot." Imagine how fucking amazing hearing these words must make you feel as an ugly, sexual attention-starved male. Some of you here are larping chads so this shouldn't even be a problem for you, as you just have your recall last weekend or open your tinder chats.

This effect works much the same way with words on a screen. You can reach out across the world and touch minds. The same thing is happening when an author writes a book and your perspective on life completely changes. Richard Dawkins did this marvelously with his popular book, The God Delusion. Legions of religous people, mostly from the Abrahamic religions, left their religions and became atheists. Power of this kind of influence is available to anybody with a computer and an internet connection. This kind of power is a big problem for these controllers, because their traditonal means of influence through television and print media is under assault. For decades, billion (and now trillion) dollar corporations have controlled the narrarive through TV stations, newspapers and magazines. In order to shift public opinion (the beliefs and atittudes of the average person) and direct it towards a desired area or goal (like invading a country and pillaging their resources) you needed to have massive amounts of money poured into the system with lobbying greasing the right palms, building businesses that embed itself into the fabric of society and become a necessity of sorts, and have agents - both public and private- disseminated across multiple layers of society.

And now? Now Cleetus can have an internet channel with the help of the only member of his family who has half of his DNA from outside the family to set it up for him so he can rant about foreigners and faggots all day as he chews tobacco and suspiciously caresses a pig. You better believe that this guy will have at least one dedicated follower whose words will pour into his soul like a temple jug pouring holy wine into a chalice. Imagine this dude with a million subscribers. He could start his own cult consisting of a handful of his most obssessed followers, if he wanted. This sort of thing is reason why many social media spaces on the internet are being heavily censored. Their voices are being silenced and their ideas are being suppressed. They use unwitting agents from the political far left, who believe themselves to on the moral high ground and entitled to be the arbiters and moral police, to execute policies originating from outside the companies. Remember that slow and gradual changes go unnoticed, so this can take decades to get what you want (see: Overton window and how this phenomenon has broader applications than just in the domain of political opinions and discourse).

The truth is that governments and the corporations in league with them (or in charge of them) don't care about incels as a potential terrorist threat. "Terrorism" is just a buzzword used as a political strategy to help motivate and expedite the enacting of policies favorable to your own agenda. The real threat they fear is what incels represent: dissident elements within societies, who reject society, with no national, political, religious, or other ideological ties binding them, having the ability to congregate and speak openly in online spaces, with the potential to have an influence and effect on the system in ways that may disrupt their control. This is the real meaning the term "movement" when they use the phrase, "incel movemen." The controllers are afraid that, like incels, actual dissidents, insurrectionists, and other potential threats to the state - real, dangerous threats, not lonely virgins jacking off to furry porn - might congregate in online spaces and conspire to do serious harm to the state, its apparatuses and personnel, or to ordinary citizens. You think governments giving you the level of attention you dreamed your oneitis would give you are doing this because you say mean words about m'lady on the internet? Fucking KEK. Your anger and misery is being used by evil deep state actors in an effort to shame and censor you about the very things you're angry and miserable about.

Quote from a brocel:

"Imagine involuntarily being part of a movement you'd rather not be in. That is literally the incel community. If a girl would look past my subpar face and height, I wouldn't be incel, would I? But I can't because I'm not attractive enough. And FOR THAT, I am now a terrorist. Can't make this shit up. Simply because I can't get a girlfriend, I am now a terrorist."

If it sounds completely insane and retarded to you for governments to go after incels because of that, then I have some good news for you: You're smarter and saner than you give yourself credit for. Because yes, that would be completely insane and retarded. Make no mistake. This is about internet control and censorship. Incels are the easy target to scapegoat.

Some of you may already know of the upcoming session about incels being held by the EU next. I was made aware of this hours ago. On the surface of it this is peak clown world, but there is far more to this. Link below.

BenBerger said:
Totally agree.... and I would claim the following:
1. We are an input in the "Crime Manufacturing" machine
2. We are physically harmless but the Blackpill is truly dangerous
3. A possible resolution

1. We are an input in the "Crime Manufacturing" machine
I don't think that they really targeting incels because they have no reason to do that. They have the data, the numbers, and the intel and all of it point to a simple fact: incels are by far the most disenfranchised and obscure humans in society. Therefore, assuming they have a positive IQ, they would not see incels as a threat because we are not a threat. We are sub-humans deemed to Rot-and-Rope. BUT, it would not prevent them to label us as a threat and create a boogeyman to justify certain policies aimed at further accumulation of power.

Specifically, I think that they will use "radical ideology" and "incel movement" to create imaginary-threats in order to broaden the number of crimes. Think about it... The longer the list of accusations and "extremISMs" the easier it is for the power havers to turn innocent people into criminals and deprive them of rights. They are using us to invent new crimes and broaden this list so it would be easier for them to convict people (both incels and non-incels). I recall Orwell's 1984 (I recall it too much recently) and its "facecrime". A kid's life can already be ruined if he smiles in the wrong way:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/covington-catholic-maga-hatcrime-facecrime/

So...They need our "community" to be used as a Precedent of a dangerous group that should be pacified by a new judicial method. It will provide them with a way out of the stare decisis and broaden the list of crimes and provide them with more policing tools. Think how many new crimes can be invented by just looking at the posts on this forum... We are a damn gold mine for new crimes. And, tbh, I think inventing new crimes and getting a moral superiority trip is the thing they love the most. They really want to be the moral police, as you said.

But despite the fact that we will be used to create panic the crimes will not be used explicitly against incels. Rather also against other "extremists". You listed some of them but there are many more some have no relation to inceldoom whatsoever.

2. We are physically harmless but the Blackpill is truly dangerous
Incels are damn dangerous. Not because some incels went ER. ER is BS - a fart in the wind in the world of security threats. But the Blackpill and our obsession with it and its spreading is dangerous.

The Blackpill is the only tool we have to protect ourselves. A list of peer review articles and a set of inconvenient facts is all we have! But this is a brutal force and a real danger for the power structure.

The real danger of incels.co is that it is free and relatively open-minded. Infinitely open-minded in comparison to Reddit :soy:. They have to find an excuse to close such sites and accusation in some contrived crime is a great and easy way to get rid of platforms like this that allow discussion that is not allowed under the PC dictatorship.

Incels are dangerous because a small fraction of us is coping by reading books, by searching for more blackpilled researches, by arguing and blackpilling normies, and even by writing high IQ posts here. This is dangerous because once the slave becomes aware of his shekels and the possibility of freedom the slavery-based regime is doomed. The slaves in this metaphor are the normies, not us. We are the potential liberators. And I am not coping by overestimating our place in life. A large chunk of history was written by subhuman incels that started to write and talk to normie masses.

So they have to thread each and every free-thinking person as dangerous. They have no other choice if they want to maintain power. And I don't know where else during these days you could find free-thinking people. Definitely not in academia. So in a sense, they are fighting the knowledge that incels produce and discus. Our knowledge is quite unique since it is mainly produced by means and with the "help" of our incessant suffering. No spoiled bourgeoisie elitist scum can produce such knowledge, how would he? He never suffered!

where else on the Internet it is allowed to discuss female nature? Perhaps on some MGTOW-like redpill semi-blackpilled site. But from what I saw on these forums they are nothing like this one. MGTOW is an intellectual diet when compared to the blackpilled. I think it is even more true if you assume that the blackpill can be applied to other realms of life and not just to the sexual sphere. Think politics, economics, and almost every social sphere. Everywhere you see masters and slaves. The blackpill unveils the essence of social relationships and exposes who are the "Chads" and for whom "it's over". It is crucial for the master to keep the sheep in total oblivion and in the hamster's wheel.

3. A possible resolution
I already apologize for proposing it. It is bluepiled AF, but tell me what do you think...

As Orwell wrote:
"It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away."

We have let out our most wicked and ugly thoughts. We have no one to blame except ourselves. Our PR is terrible. And it is multiplied by the psychotic Orwellin attitudes of our society which make things even worst. But as trucels we know that things can always become worse.

But how can you blame a person that knew no joy in being resentful?
How can a hell dweller be healed?
One should be absolutely Heartless to blame incels for being resentful. Pain is all we know. Yet, you shall have no doubt that they will blame us.

But in this regard, if an incel advocacy group will ever rise, I think it should (as much as possible) to adopt the victim mentality and the victim discourse to pursue our goals. In response to being blamed, we have to explain that we are victims of the bully, of the unjust economic system, that we cannot find jobs, that we are deemed to live in hell. But we should do all this within the limits of the PC lingo in a non-challenging way. What I mean is that we should protect ourselves with the bluepill and that protecting ourselves with the blackpill is absolutely counter producing, and in fact dangerous. They don't give a damn about the truth anyway.

I am not saying that we have to abandon the blackpill. what I do say is that we have to protect ourselves with the bluepill if an advocacy group is created.

Cheers!
B @based_meme

Very interesting.
 
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