Serious The Incel problem and its perceived solutions

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/opinion/incels-sex-robots-redistribution.html

“one might plausibly argue that those with much less access to sex suffer to a similar degree as those with low income, and might similarly hope to gain from organizing around this identity, to lobby for redistribution along this axis and to at least implicitly threaten violence if their demands are not met.”


“Does Anyone Have the Right To Sex?” Srinivasan, an Oxford philosophy professor, covered similar ground (starting with an earlier “incel” killer) but expanded the argument well beyond the realm of male chauvinists to consider groups with whom The London Review’s left-leaning and feminist readers would have more natural sympathy — the overweight and disabled, minority groups treated as unattractive by the majority, trans women unable to find partners and other victims, in her narrative, of a society that still makes us prisoners of patriarchal and also racist-sexist-homophobic rules of sexual desire.


we tend to look for fixes that seem to build on previous revolutions, rather than reverse them.

In the case of sexual liberation and its discontents, that’s unlikely to mean the kind of thoroughgoingly utopian reimagining of sexual desire that writers like Srinivasan think we should aspire toward, or anything quite so formal as the pro-redistribution political lobby of Hanson’s thought experiment.

But I expect the logic of commerce and technology will be consciously harnessed, as already in pornography, to address the unhappiness of incels, be they angry and dangerous or simply depressed and despairing. The left’s increasing zeal to transform prostitution into legalized and regulated “sex work” will have this end implicitly in mind, the libertarian (and general male) fascination with virtual-reality porn and sex robots will increase as those technologies improve — and at a certain point, without anyone formally debating the idea of a right to sex, right-thinking people will simply come to agree that some such right exists, and that it makes sense to look to some combination of changed laws, new technologies and evolved mores to fulfill it.

Whether sex workers and sex robots can actually deliver real fulfillment is another matter. But that they will eventually be asked to do it, in service to a redistributive goal that for now still seems creepy or misogynist or radical, feels pretty much inevitable.
 
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Right to sex is to put the curt before the horse imo. The incel problem begins much earlier before teenager become sexually active. But a start for oldcels. I have to take a break. Didn't read the whole article, yet.
 
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I would model a loli sex robot with a small vagina so my 3 inch micropenor can penetrate it and hit its cervix.
 
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Except hookers won't fuck you if you're ugly
 
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Not_Important said:
Except hookers won't fuck you if you're ugly
You may have missed the libertarian solution:

But I expect the logic of commerce and technology will be consciously harnessed, as already in pornography, to address the unhappiness of incels, be they angry and dangerous or simply depressed and despairing. The left’s increasing zeal to transform prostitution into legalized and regulated “sex work” will have this end implicitly in mind, the libertarian (and general male) fascination with virtual-reality porn and sex robots will increase as those technologies improve — and at a certain point, without anyone formally debating the idea of a right to sex, right-thinking people will simply come to agree that some such right exists, and that it makes sense to look to some combination of changed laws, new technologies and evolved mores to fulfill it.

But more importantly:

Whether sex workers and sex robots can actually deliver real fulfillment is another matter. But that they will eventually be asked to do it, in service to a redistributive goal that for now still seems creepy or misogynist or radical, feels pretty much inevitable.

In some places that is their specialty.
 
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I agree with this sort of solution. It is neither reasonable nor practical to expect the state or anyone else to force women to have sex with us. By that logic, some might see the solution as pairing us off with un-dateable trans women or the like. Looking for other solutions like legalizing prostitution or building better sex robots (or if anyone else can think of something, Christ please) is the only real hope :(
 
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JFL when filthy degenerate trannies are more sympathetic to the public than we are.

It really is over. FML.
 
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Gokugetem said:
JFL when filthy degenerate trannies are more sympathetic to the public than we are.

It really is over. FML.
 
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Involuntarily said:
Whether sex workers and sex robots can actually deliver real fulfillment is another matter.
Excluding sexbots because of how hypothetical they are, the answer is no. The only true realistic solution is to give us the option to be volalive. In other words legal assisted suicide.
 
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happiless said:
Excluding sexbots because of how hypothetical they are, the answer is no. The only true realistic solution is to give us the option to be volalive. In other words legal assisted suicide.
I do not think that is the best solution. I think this is. The DBS will be the greatest pleasure in the world for you. He implanted that in several patients and they always got addicted to pressing the button, saying things like 'that is a really good button'. Maybe it can be used as straight conversion therapy as well. Here is the abstract. Ideally the button is all you need.