
Shay Patrick Cormac
I make my own luck
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The Iliad is a brutal world where power, honor and love define human value, exactly like social hierarchies still present today and that will always be present .In the Illiad gods exist but they are just as corrupted as humans in nature and view humans as mere characters that put up a show; it tackles the themes of honor and masculinity, how it's insignificant yet it's the only meaning humans can cling to. Honor and power is what matters the most and in this, love is extremely important, so much that Helen laying with Paris despite marrying Menelaus causes a war. Achilles copes with pride when Agamennon takes Briseis from him (Briseis is a war prize, which likely meant other men who claim her can have intercourse with her). Hector has no choice but going to fight Achilles after he killed Patroclos , otherwise it would be dishonorable and Andromache will think he is less of a man, despite her begging him to not go, but Hector knows it is a great dishonor. After Achilles dies ,Ajax (who is the second strongest warrior) and Odysseus compete for his armor as a prize ,but Odysseus claims it due to IQ mogging Ajax ,which greatly humiliates him (in Sophocles version he plans to take revenge and kill his own Greek comrades but is tricked by the gods into slaughtering livestock instead, which only humiliates it more and he kills himself). The Iliad only exposes how everything that matters in this nihilistic world is power, which is achieved by honor and love; something incels can never achieve because they are born ugly and merely a tool provided by nature for more fit humans to gain more social power.
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