Blackpill the heightpill is bittersweet to me

[jet112]

i never felt like height is a big deal. but studies show that it is.
interesting. i never felt like tall guys did better than short guys in school environment.

i knew many short and tall people, didn't make me treat them any differently.
same with dating. i didn't see tall guys succeed more than average height men. its mostly the face that made the big difference.
i think the height issue is way overblown.

 

[Karabim]

Height is not that important. Only at 5'6 and below it really starts to matter a lot. Also at 6ft+ it gives you gives you a slight advantage, but your face is your baseline in attractiveness.

 

[Deleted member 8]

i never felt like height is a big deal. but studies show that it is.

i think the height issue is way overblown.

Don't be like cucktears. You admitted you've seen the research, but your conclusion is the opposite?

 

[jet112]

Don't be like cucktears. You admitted you've seen the research, but your conclusion is the opposite?

because what i see that tall guys will often date bottom of the barrel woman (even if most them are not incel)
and the correlation between height and attraction is there, but its low

 

[Deleted member 2119]

I am a manlet and 12 cm below the average height of an adult male. I feel the heightpill daily and it is hell

 

[Bangkok or bust]

Big difference between how a 6'1 > 6'2 average guy gets treated compared to a 5'8 > 5'9 average guy gets treated.
Its like women see you as a separate species. They treat 5'8 guys like your the boy, the 6'2 as the real men. Nothing to do with how you act. The 5'8 avg guy who acts confident and manly is crossing a boundry and rocking the apple cart.

Never think height is that unimportant. It is very important if your average, less so if your hansdsome like Cruise, Somerhalder, Efron etc.

 

[VisVoi]

Height is the most important aspect of your physical appearance. It dictates how you will be treated in literally every single situation.

 

[_incelinside]

Big difference between how a 6'1 > 6'2 average guy gets treated compared to a 5'8 > 5'9 average guy gets treated.
Its like women see you as a separate species. They treat 5'8 guys like your the boy, the 6'2 as the real men. Nothing to do with how you act. The 5'8 avg guy who acts confident and manly is crossing a boundry and rocking the apple cart.

Never think height is that unimportant. It is very important if your average, less so if your hansdsome like Cruise, Somerhalder, Efron etc.

 

[Deleted member 11159]

Big difference between how a 6'1 > 6'2 average guy gets treated compared to a 5'8 > 5'9 average guy gets treated.
Its like women see you as a separate species. They treat 5'8 guys like your the boy, the 6'2 as the real men. Nothing to do with how you act. The 5'8 avg guy who acts confident and manly is crossing a boundry and rocking the apple cart.

Never think height is that unimportant. It is very important if your average, less so if your hansdsome like Cruise, Somerhalder, Efron etc.

Is 5'11 manlet-tier?

 

[jet112]

like women see you as a separate species. They treat 5'8 guys like your the boy, the 6'2 as the real men. Nothing to do with how you act. The 5'8 avg guy who acts confident and manly is crossing a boundry and rocking the apple cart.

Never think height is that unimportant. It is very important if your average, less so if your hansdsome like

i would say anything beyond avarage height is barely affecting you
anything below average height is fucking you up majorly

 

[Bangkok or bust]

Is 5'11 manlet-tier?

No its not. You should be fine. As long as your not directly competing with 6'3 > 6'4 guys for one particular woman. I'd say troubles start at 5'9 range and below for white males.

Me, I'm 176cm (5'9.25) my slightly older brother is 189cm (6'2.5). We look similar in the face, he has a bigger frame. Our vocal tracts sound identical. I have been out with him many times when younger, we got chatting to women. You see it instantly that women want to get to know him and not me, and this is only two minutes into chatting to them. We even got talking to two sisters onetime, the better looking sister was really into my brother but the other sister (who was 2 points below her 6.5 sibling; she had flat chest, average face) just didn't want to talk to me. You could see the disappointment and lack of enthusiasm in her eyes. They both wanted to isolate my brother from me. It was utter hell.

My brother later said that night: "why did she treat you like that? You did nothing wrong" "I feel bad for you, that's not on man"

Me: its height, bro. 100%.

And BTW that was in 2006. That girl that was into my brother is still on his FACEBOOK friends list, even though he married a different woman.

I'm still single. at 41.

 

[Deleted member 11159]

No its not. You should be fine. As long as your not directly competing with 6'3 > 6'4 guys for one particular woman. I'd say troubles start at 5'9 range and below for white males.

Me, I'm 176cm (5'9.25) my slightly older brother is 189cm (6'2.5). We look similar in the face, he has a bigger frame. Our vocal tracts sound identical. I have been out with him many times when younger, we got chatting to women. You see it instantly that women want to get to know him and not me, and this is only two minutes into chatting to them. We even got talking to two sisters onetime, the better looking sister was really into my brother but the other sister (who was 2 points below her 6.5 sibling; she had flat chest, average face) just didn't want to talk to me. You could see the disappointment and lack of enthusiasm in her eyes. They both wanted to isolate my brother from me. It was utter hell.

My brother later said that night: "why did she treat you like that? You did nothing wrong" "I feel bad for you, that's not on man"

Me: its height, bro. 100%.

And BTW that was in 2006. That girl that was into my brother is still on his FACEBOOK friends list, even though he married a different woman.

I'm still single. at 41.

Damn, that's harsh. It's shocking how much easier or harder your life can be because of something you have no control over. Seeing people who are taller than me always makes me feel so insignificant and inferior and basically ruins my day even though i'm supposedly average.

 

[Bangkok or bust]

Damn, that's harsh. It's shocking how much easier or harder your life can be because of something you have no control over. Seeing people who are taller than me always makes me feel so insignificant and inferior and basically ruins my day even though i'm supposedly average.

Shorter men are treated like lepers. You can isolate women and make a better impression on them that way if your a shorter man, but its harder if not impossible. In this day and age women are programmed to feel uneasy when isolated with a man (in a bar with him alone f.e). Its all being connected, being in groups, being in social media for women.


It's really unfortunate that instead of these events triggering recognition of the plight of so many unfortunate males being treated like absolute shit in society because they aren't 7+, 6+ in facial looks or tall, they are demonized and targeted negatively to fulfill even more feminist and politically correct clandestine agendas. Attacking the underprivileged -- already suffering males -- and holding their communities accountable for the actions of one or two incel shooter individuals who commit homicide with guns/vans. If society was fair and equal it claims, I was kinda thinking the opposite would be the result. But the problem is so heinous and fucked beyond repair that any empathy would mean an acknowledgement of an issue nobody wants to go anywhere near. Even pretending to care is too much responsibility. I guess the theory would be that with enough negative attention, loathing, and hatred towards a blatant pandemic of hypocricy and favouritism towards females, then single undesirable ugly males ("ugly" now meaning 5/10, slim/fit able bodied men who are a bit short-ish) will eventually just disappear and forfeit any consideration from the rest of humanity.

 

[Deleted member 2047]

Height is not that important. Only at 5'6 and below it really starts to matter a lot. Also at 6ft+ it gives you gives you a slight advantage, but your face is your baseline in attractiveness.

holy cope batman

 

[San Salvador]

Big difference between how a 6'1 > 6'2 average guy gets treated compared to a 5'8 > 5'9 average guy gets treated.
Its like women see you as a separate species. They treat 5'8 guys like your the boy, the 6'2 as the real men. Nothing to do with how you act. The 5'8 avg guy who acts confident and manly is crossing a boundry and rocking the apple cart.

Never think height is that unimportant. It is very important if your average, less so if your hansdsome like Cruise, Somerhalder, Efron etc.

Wrong. Women treat me like an autist and laugh at me.

 

[Karabim]

holy cope batman

i have seen too many guys in the 5'6 to 5'9 range slay like crazy to believe otherwise

 

[Jockcel]

height > all else

 

[Cynistic]

Height is the most important aspect of your physical appearance. It dictates how you will be treated in literally every single situation.

height > all else

This tbh, OP you are a fkin retard thinking your own anecdotes trump scientific data.
All tallcels are fakecels, gtfo out, thanks.
Height=Face

 

[UndercovrNormie]

A tall ugly man is just ugly, a short attractive man is invisible.

 

[UBERCEL]

I'm happy for you tbh. Height obsession is a rabbit hole that destroys the most and saves the few

 

[Gremlincel]

Height is the most important aspect of your physical appearance. It dictates how you will be treated in literally every single situation.

I swear, I wouldn't care if it only effected my success with foid's. But like everything, it matters just as fucking much to men as well. I just want to be respected, I don't want to be filled with this horrid anxiety and fear, for just one day.