Discussion The Extent of Neurodivergence

[Sir Silentium]

Long thread, but bare with me

I was recently cucked by a slightly above average looking dude facially, 6ft. This female was all over him as if he were chad, but had a super good "personality" by modern means - which carried him - as his looks were also pretty good. He had the typical extroverted, well spoken mannerisms.

But more recently, she was obsessing over another guy with the typical dark triad personality. So completely different to that of the other guy. It's like a "good" personality to females is anything that differentiates from the normal human standard kek.

So what I learnt from this, is that there is no typical "good" personality women desire, and that it is all a subjective measurement - autists like ourselves do not have the neurological pathways to understand or reciprocate this. So the "just have a good personality bro" isn't real.


Also keep in mind that this was a church girl, and she would lower her standards physically speaking. So I would also have a bias that differentiates from most modern girls I can imagine.

The grief from this occurrence made me delve into studies and articles regarding neurodivergence, such as it's impact on friendships, relationships, attractiveness, etc.

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But before I go into that, I want to make a few things clear (from what I have noticed):

1. Neurotypicality ≠ Personality
Neurotypicality is more of an objective measurement, whilst personality is more subjective.

A good way to put this is measuring across groups for example:
Japan good personality = introverted, whilst United States good personality = extroverted.
But then if we take a look at NT, that is generally extroverted anywhere, as we are naturally extroverted beings.

So someone can still be 100% NT, but still have a "bad" personality - as I mentioned with my own personal experience.


So I believe that Neurotypicality/Personality (however you want to look at it) matters, but only after you already have the looks (and it is just an added bonus that still can carry you heaps).

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Now moving into the topic:

How disadvantages do I think ND is? Well it depends for each group of people. In western society it is a major set back, and if you are even slightly below average facially but super ND, you may as well be subhuman in a hypergamic society. I can speak from experience.

I feel like this is one of those topics where you kind of have to speak from experience about - there is only so much you can take from articles online that all contradict each other anyways.

But there comes a point, to where you are extremely ND and you actually get treated better than usual - as a form of pity.

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Now this is my experience with ND - keeping it very brief:

I am not abominationally unattractive, maybe 3.5-4/10 facially, 5'10, olive skinned ethnicity brings me down in Australia - but not terrible physically right..
I have never been able to make any true friends in real life, never been able to even get a female my age to look at me in the eye when I am speaking to them, and have always been treated as an outsider since I was 3 years old in preschool.

I don't blame this on my looks, I blame with on my Neurodiversity. And why you may ask? Because I see everyone else who is way worse looking than me, doing better in all the aspects I mentioned above. This is without cherry picking.

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But this makes sense of course, as people react negatively to ND factors such as:
- awkward timing
- low reciprocity
- unusual affect
- anxious/non-natural body language
- difficulty fitting group norms

And they do this instinctively, without realising it.


I also want to mentioned the Halo effect that people get from being attractive, to coming off more neurotypical. And an unattractive person coming off more neurodivergent.

But then again, whilst the Halo effect plays a part, this can still be true. As good looking individuals upbringings make them more likely to have been treated better - (where that environment + genetic combination comes into play) - and they develop more "neurotypical" than others.

And remember, looks and personality are generally not mutually exclusive

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And why do I say personality/NT matters - whilst still being blackpilled?

Because I don't believe that you can change your personality (to an extent).

After further research, there seems to be an 80/20, genetics to environment split in regards to Neurodiversity and Personality.

Genetics provide the blueprint for potential, but the environment is the final dictator. This is the same both physically/looks, and mentally/neurotypicality.


And the 'environment' sectioned listened above is whilst your brain is still developing, especially during puberty.
So trying to change your personality after puberty has finished can be almost impossible - but at the end of the day it is all about genetic potential.

But remember, personality only matters if you have the looks to come with it.
And I have a bias as my interactions have been in Christian groups which differ from the rest of modern society.

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Mentionable articles on the topic

Also, this article showed that lonely people technically have better "social skills" than the social people themselves:

New Research Finds Lonely People Have Superior Social Skills

NPR:Intuitively, many of us might think lonely people are lonely because they have poor social skills. New research turns this thinking on its head and offers a potential cure for loneliness.A number of experiments find, …

www.psychologicalscience.org

NT people are less willing to interact with ND people, as a result of pre-thought judgements:

Neurotypical Peers are Less Willing to Interact with Those with Autism based on Thin Slice Judgments - PubMed

Individuals with autism spectrum disorder (ASD), including those who otherwise require less support, face severe difficulties in everyday social interactions. Research in this area has primarily focused on identifying the cognitive and neurological differences that contribute to these social...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Great thread that ties in with social dynamics:

Simping, Male on Male Aggression & Mating Cues

"Another rapid social-context effect shows men in some of their lamest moments. Specifically, when women are present, or when men are prompted to think about women, they become more risk-taking, show steeper temporal discounting in economic decisions, and spend more on luxury items (but not on...

incels.is

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Note: I am still learning about this so take everything with a grain of salt.

This post was first developed here:

How disadvantageous do you guys think neurodivergence actually is?

As someone who's severely nd, I can attest to the horrors of this crippling condition and life circumstance. I haven't a single friend, I've been severely bullied since 7 years of age, verbally and physically, but what if I was chad? How much of a role do you think it would play then? Let's...

incels.is

@InvoluntaryChigga @TheGrayWolf @mexicanascension

 

[Solid State]

Speaking from experience, if people find out you have a rather serious psychiatric disorder that you take medication for, you are instantly-disqualified from the social circle in their eyes and you are seen as a threat to avoid.

 

[Sir Silentium]

Speaking from experience, if people find out you have a rather serious psychiatric disorder that you take medication for, you are instantly-disqualified from the social circle in their eyes and you are seen as a threat to avoid.

For sure, I can relate to that.

 

[imlame]

Speaking from experience, if people find out you have a rather serious psychiatric disorder that you take medication for, you are instantly-disqualified from the social circle in their eyes and you are seen as a threat to avoid.

 

[nihilum]

I am neurodivergent with developmental disorders.

 

[She Does Not Exist]

But this makes sense of course, as people react negatively to ND factors such as:
- awkward timing
- low reciprocity
- unusual affect
- anxious/non-natural body language
- difficulty fitting group norms

I do not know how is in australia, but I'm like you 'looks wise' here, but maybe, maybe a 6 in my state / country, but due to my L1 Autistm I carry the most common trait of autistic men, brutal honesty.

I'm able to interact with people, I'm able to talk to people, I'm able to make people laugh with on the spot jokes, but I fail to understand or my brain does so to the point of not respecting my own 'privacy', that I must reveal things that is not natural for people to reveal, like relationships, loneliness and which traits I desire in a partner.

Thus they can spot my 'misogyny' and single me out due to my not so unusual opnions, but since here is custom to keep these opnions to yourself I'm unable to fit.

I got into fights because of it (calling women whores by the way they dress), albeit my IQ saved me from getting beaten to death lol.

But people here will ignore the NDPill and pretend it does not exist, when most shooters who they worship were actually autistic men who were unable to fit in society, strange.

Also keep in mind that this was a church girl, and she would lower her standards physically speaking. So I would also have a bias that differentiates from most modern girls I can imagine.

Literal traps bro, I meet three of then, all facade, they are precisely like all other women, they do not value kindness or all that stuff the church preach, they like most women fall for the dark triad.

I've experienced this with Mormon women.

As I said in a another tread women are not able to come to their own conclusions, they are a hivemind, personality to then besides the 'fixed' one they like which is dominant men does not matter.

 

[She Does Not Exist]

If we were to be put on a all autistic school that placed us alongside other people that carry our traits we would prosper in society.

Meaning a school that had only L1 men and women, teachers also making sure bullying is not present, that exclusion due to looks is not present as well.

In short enforces to understand that no individual should be excluded.

But instead the system is a mess, people do not acknowledge autistic men (only women) and they mix and match us with NT people, and the result? the Incel.

 

[BricABrac]

I could believe it.

Being "off" socially, that is being truly wired wrong, rather than just lacking social experience is something that others can detect. It's a subtle disfigurement, but it is a genuine disfigurement, and one that no one wants to deal with.

 

[Sir Silentium]

I do not know how is in australia, but I'm like you 'looks wise' here, but maybe, maybe a 6 in my state / country, but due to my L1 Autistm I carry the most common trait of autistic men, brutal honesty.

I'm able to interact with people, I'm able to talk to people, I'm able to make people laugh with on the spot jokes, but I fail to understand or my brain does so to the point of not respecting my own 'privacy', that I must reveal things that is not natural for people to reveal, like relationships, loneliness and which traits I desire in a partner.

Thus they can spot my 'misogyny' and single me out due to my not so unusual opnions, but since here is custom to keep these opnions to yourself I'm unable to fit.

I got into fights because of it (calling women whores by the way they dress), albeit my IQ saved me from getting beaten to death lol.

But people here will ignore the NDPill and pretend it does not exist, when most shooters who they worship were actually autistic men who were unable to fit in society, strange.

I can only communicate effectively with people I have known for years - i.e my parents, brother, and a brocel from .is.

And like you mentioned, due to my lack of social involvement and ostracisation, I haven't had the social experience to know what is socially acceptable or not. So I tend to stay very quiet, as whenever I mention something it gets turned back onto me.

Literal traps bro, I meet three of then, all facade, they are precisely like all other women, they do not value kindness or all that stuff the church preach, they like most women fall for the dark triad.

I've experienced this with Mormon women.

As I said in a another tread women are not able to come to their own conclusions, they are a hivemind, personality to then besides the 'fixed' one they like which is dominant men does not matter.

I know what you mean, some of these girls in my church fellowship are still dressing with their shoulders showing and other designs that would naturally induce lust. It's sinful.

 

[Renegade#1]

im not reading novels,next time add a tldr version

 

[She Does Not Exist]

I can only communicate effectively with people I have known for years - i.e my parents, brother, and a brocel from .is.

And like you mentioned, due to my lack of social involvement and ostracisation, I haven't had the social experience to know what is socially acceptable or not. So I tend to stay very quiet, as whenever I mention something it gets turned back onto me.

I came to the conclusion that is best for me to interact only with my loved ones, being my mom, my dad and my aunt, even tho they are NT they are used to me, they know that I will talk shit eventually, I was able to even imprint some of my views in their heads over time.

But NT people can't tolare me for long because how open I'm, a value honesty, is something I find amazing, even tho I hurt people and I'm hurt back I still desire to interact with these people again.

But is honestly sad being an autistic man, you don't feel excluded, you are excluded because we are the minority, our brain is not functional enough to understand the basics that NT people grasp as early as 12~14 years old, we 'mature' when it comes to social aspects way later, like in our mid 20's or so.

People call us nerds, smart or wise, etc, etc.

But they still exclude us and don't want any interaction, is bizarre.

I know what you mean, some of these girls in my church fellowship are still dressing with their shoulders showing and other designs that would naturally induce lust. It's sinful.

I'm not religious, but this is always men's fault, thinking you could cloth then and believe their nature would be as 'you shaped', it does not work like that, if a woman sees another dressing in more seductive clothing she will also want to dress like that, they are a hivemind.

Just follow one nose piercing, it leads to another and another, or a simple butterfly tattoo on her body.

You will never find any woman as an autistic man, never.

We were literally built without considering a companion for us because being ND is far more common in men.

So on top of looks, money and status I'm more alone because of my brain, it sucks.

 

[Sir Silentium]

im not reading novels,next time add a tldr version

I shortened it too!

It shouldn't take longer than 3 minutes

 

[Renegade#1]

I shortened it too!

It shouldn't take longer than 3 minutes

personality is a codeword used by toilets for looks,water wet

 

[Sir Silentium]

I came to the conclusion that is best for me to interact only with my loved ones, being my mom, my dad and my aunt, even tho they are NT they are used to me, they know that I will talk shit eventually, I was able to even imprint some of my views in their heads over time.

But NT people can't tolare me for long because how open I'm, a value honesty, is something I find amazing, even tho I hurt people and I'm hurt back I still desire to interact with these people again.

But is honestly sad being an autistic man, you don't feel excluded, you are excluded because we are the minority, our brain is not functional enough to understand the basics that NT people grasp as early as 12~14 years old, we 'mature' when it comes to social aspects way later, like in our mid 20's or so.

People call us nerds, smart or wise, etc, etc.

But they still exclude us and don't want any interaction, is bizarre.

Yes, just like mentioned in this article:

Neurotypical Peers are Less Willing to Interact with Those with Autism based on Thin Slice Judgments - PubMed

Individuals with autism spectrum disorder (ASD), including those who otherwise require less support, face severe difficulties in everyday social interactions. Research in this area has primarily focused on identifying the cognitive and neurological differences that contribute to these social...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I'm not religious, but this is always men's fault, thinking you could cloth then and believe their nature would be as 'you shaped', it does not work like that, if a woman sees another dressing in more seductive clothing she will also want to dress like that, they are a hivemind.

Just follow one nose piercing, it leads to another and another, or a simple butterfly tattoo on her body.

You will never find any woman as an autistic man, never.

We were literally built without considering a companion for us because being ND is far more common in men.

So on top of looks, money and status I'm more alone because of my brain, it sucks.

 

[Pikacel]

Looks are law, ND is cope

 

[mexicanascension]

Well written thread, I hope to write threads like this in the future.

Sometimes I wish I was a bit less nuerodivergent so I could work more on my cold approach and not care what the result is.

 

[furds]

Long thread, but bare with me

I was recently cucked by a slightly above average looking dude facially, 6ft. This female was all over him as if he were chad, but had a super good "personality" by modern means - which carried him - as his looks were also pretty good. He had the typical extroverted, well spoken mannerisms.

But more recently, she was obsessing over another guy with the typical dark triad personality. So completely different to that of the other guy. It's like a "good" personality to females is anything that differentiates from the normal human standard kek.

So what I learnt from this, is that there is no typical "good" personality women desire, and that it is all a subjective measurement - autists like ourselves do not have the neurological pathways to understand or reciprocate this. So the "just have a good personality bro" isn't real.


Also keep in mind that this was a church girl, and she would lower her standards physically speaking. So I would also have a bias that differentiates from most modern girls I can imagine.

The grief from this occurrence made me delve into studies and articles regarding neurodivergence, such as it's impact on friendships, relationships, attractiveness, etc.

---

But before I go into that, I want to make a few things clear (from what I have noticed):

1. Neurotypicality ≠ Personality
Neurotypicality is more of an objective measurement, whilst personality is more subjective.

A good way to put this is measuring across groups for example:
Japan good personality = introverted, whilst United States good personality = extroverted.
But then if we take a look at NT, that is generally extroverted anywhere, as we are naturally extroverted beings.

So someone can still be 100% NT, but still have a "bad" personality - as I mentioned with my own personal experience.


So I believe that Neurotypicality/Personality (however you want to look at it) matters, but only after you already have the looks (and it is just an added bonus that still can carry you heaps).

---

Now moving into the topic:

How disadvantages do I think ND is? Well it depends for each group of people. In western society it is a major set back, and if you are even slightly below average facially but super ND, you may as well be subhuman in a hypergamic society. I can speak from experience.

I feel like this is one of those topics where you kind of have to speak from experience about - there is only so much you can take from articles online that all contradict each other anyways.

But there comes a point, to where you are extremely ND and you actually get treated better than usual - as a form of pity.

---

Now this is my experience with ND - keeping it very brief:

I am not abominationally unattractive, maybe 3.5-4/10 facially, 5'10, olive skinned ethnicity brings me down in Australia - but not terrible physically right..
I have never been able to make any true friends in real life, never been able to even get a female my age to look at me in the eye when I am speaking to them, and have always been treated as an outsider since I was 3 years old in preschool.

I don't blame this on my looks, I blame with on my Neurodiversity. And why you may ask? Because I see everyone else who is way worse looking than me, doing better in all the aspects I mentioned above. This is without cherry picking.

---

But this makes sense of course, as people react negatively to ND factors such as:
- awkward timing
- low reciprocity
- unusual affect
- anxious/non-natural body language
- difficulty fitting group norms

And they do this instinctively, without realising it.


I also want to mentioned the Halo effect that people get from being attractive, to coming off more neurotypical. And an unattractive person coming off more neurodivergent.

But then again, whilst the Halo effect plays a part, this can still be true. As good looking individuals upbringings make them more likely to have been treated better - (where that environment + genetic combination comes into play) - and they develop more "neurotypical" than others.

And remember, looks and personality are generally not mutually exclusive

---

And why do I say personality/NT matters - whilst still being blackpilled?

Because I don't believe that you can change your personality (to an extent).

After further research, there seems to be an 80/20, genetics to environment split in regards to Neurodiversity and Personality.

Genetics provide the blueprint for potential, but the environment is the final dictator. This is the same both physically/looks, and mentally/neurotypicality.


And the 'environment' sectioned listened above is whilst your brain is still developing, especially during puberty.
So trying to change your personality after puberty has finished can be almost impossible - but at the end of the day it is all about genetic potential.

But remember, personality only matters if you have the looks to come with it.
And I have a bias as my interactions have been in Christian groups which differ from the rest of modern society.

---

Mentionable articles on the topic

Also, this article showed that lonely people technically have better "social skills" than the social people themselves:

New Research Finds Lonely People Have Superior Social Skills

NPR:Intuitively, many of us might think lonely people are lonely because they have poor social skills. New research turns this thinking on its head and offers a potential cure for loneliness.A number of experiments find, …

www.psychologicalscience.org

NT people are less willing to interact with ND people, as a result of pre-thought judgements:

Neurotypical Peers are Less Willing to Interact with Those with Autism based on Thin Slice Judgments - PubMed

Individuals with autism spectrum disorder (ASD), including those who otherwise require less support, face severe difficulties in everyday social interactions. Research in this area has primarily focused on identifying the cognitive and neurological differences that contribute to these social...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Great thread that ties in with social dynamics:

Simping, Male on Male Aggression & Mating Cues

"Another rapid social-context effect shows men in some of their lamest moments. Specifically, when women are present, or when men are prompted to think about women, they become more risk-taking, show steeper temporal discounting in economic decisions, and spend more on luxury items (but not on...

incels.is

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Note: I am still learning about this so take everything with a grain of salt.

This post was first developed here:

How disadvantageous do you guys think neurodivergence actually is?

As someone who's severely nd, I can attest to the horrors of this crippling condition and life circumstance. I haven't a single friend, I've been severely bullied since 7 years of age, verbally and physically, but what if I was chad? How much of a role do you think it would play then? Let's...

incels.is

@InvoluntaryChigga @TheGrayWolf @mexicanascension

From experience this is all brutally true

I get cucked daily by friends family and just people in general. If they are even slightly more attractive than me they will take advantage and talk to me like I’m a little baby bitch. As a 3.5-4 I’m not attractive by any means, but even a 4.5 will see me as less.

I’ve been called a side kick by my so called best friend in past, which he is a 6 out of 10 and me as a 3.5 I am prone to be disrespected and seen as a little puppy following him.

My social skills I would say are pretty good when I know people but I have very awful social anxiety if I don’t know people and I don’t know anyone I can build off of in that inviorment.

This so called confidence is purely built off how good you look and how good your peers do. I would say weird kids are never conventionally attractive and I do think there are exceptions. But a “ND” personality mostly comes from looks, and childhood. Truly brutal because both being something uncontrollable being genetic determinism.

 

[Sir Silentium]

From experience this is all brutally true

I get cucked daily by friends family and just people in general. If they are even slightly more attractive than me they will take advantage and talk to me like I’m a little baby bitch. As a 3.5-4 I’m not attractive by any means, but even a 4.5 will see me as less.

I’ve been called a side kick by my so called best friend in past, which he is a 6 out of 10 and me as a 3.5 I am prone to be disrespected and seen as a little puppy following him.

My social skills I would say are pretty good when I know people but I have very awful social anxiety if I don’t know people and I don’t know anyone I can build off of in that inviorment.

That's good. Due to my lack of social interactions growing up I never developed that proper social skills to that of the norm or average guy. After puberty finished, you brain development regarding this decreases dramatically.

This so called confidence is purely built off how good you look and how good your peers do. I would say weird kids are never conventionally attractive and I do think there are exceptions. But a “ND” personality mostly comes from looks, and childhood. Truly brutal because both being something uncontrollable being genetic determinism.

So very true.
Since looks are generally not mutually exclusive - it makes you wonder whether this is due to the genetic side of things, or is it the environment.
In this post I talked a lot about it:

Chad doesn't even have to try

Looks Every chad I see drinks alcohol and soft drink, eats whatever sugary crap he wants, lounges around all day, etc and still looks perfect/clear skin/lean etc. Meanwhile I haven’t drank soft drink since 2022, rarely have sugary foods, never drank or smoked in my life, exercise the perfect...

incels.is

 

[The Wolf]

Absolutely. I have experienced this ever since I was around 12 or 13 years old. I have also developed a very halting speech, even to the point of pausing for around 4-5 seconds, not bringing words out, and/or stuttering when talking to non-family members. A few years ago I had a phase when I literally couldn't say certain words, I opened my mouth but nothing came out. I am a very shy person, like a shy feral animal.

 

[Sir Silentium]

Absolutely. I have experienced this ever since I was around 12 or 13 years old. I have also developed a very halting speech, even to the point of pausing for around 4-5 seconds, not bringing words out, and/or stuttering when talking to non-family members. A few years ago I had a phase when I literally couldn't say certain words, I opened my mouth but nothing came out. I am a very shy person, like a shy feral animal.

Sorry to hear that Wolfie, I have experienced similar, but to a lesser extent. I would feel like a whiteness in my throat would build up when I was speaking, and I would need to swallow constantly. If someone spoke to me abruptly, I wouldn't reply for a few seconds and have to process what they said.

 

[She Does Not Exist]

For dating the only saving grace for a ND (Autism L1) is if a woman directly asks you if she is interested, which I saw happen once.

But here is the thing, women don't do that naturally, so your chances are far, far, FAR lower than an NT person.

They may engage you in a conversation, but due to not understanding the basics when it comes to dating (which NT guys know by default) you will freeze, stutter or say something that she does not like.

And ND people don't pair well with NT people, she is far likely to be NT than ND, so she will literally just see you as creepy.

The clown I rated here on the forum believed himself to be autistic, which is a lie, because actual autistic men do not ask women out, ever.

 

[Sir Silentium]

For dating the only saving grace for a ND (Autism L1) is if a woman directly asks you if she is interested, which I saw happen once.

But here is the thing, women don't do that naturally, so your chances are far, far, FAR lower than an NT person.

They may engage you in a conversation, but due to not understanding the basics when it comes to dating (which NT guys know by default) you will freeze, stutter or say something that she does not like.

And ND people don't pair well with NT people, she is far likely to be NT than ND, so she will literally just see you as creepy.

Yes. There was this approach I did a while ago back in grade 12 in high school with this legit sub 3 woke women, but she was NT. It's as if NT women default on left winged values, because she asked me about topics such as abortion and such in which I replied from a biblical standpoint and she showed utter disgust towards me. So it's like not only is it the social dynamics, but we have to conform to incorrect satanic political ideologies too.

The clown I rated here on the forum believed himself to be autistic, which is a lie, because actual autistic men do not ask women out, ever.

Was stupid clown his name? Harikiri fellatio?

 

[She Does Not Exist]

Yes. There was this approach I did a while ago back in grade 12 in high school with this legit sub 3 woke women, but she was NT. It's as if NT women default on left winged values, because she asked me about topics such as abortion and such in which I replied from a biblical standpoint and she showed utter disgust towards me. So it's like not only is it the social dynamics, but we have to conform to incorrect satanic political ideologies too.

Same for this Christian bitch I've meet

She mentioned not wanting to have children plus asked how would I raise my son 'properly', then I mocked her religion (Mormon) and it went aaaaaaall downhill from there lol, she absolutely floored me because of it.

Very shitty experience with zoomer women, very.

And I'm not hitting on a 30 + either, these must be even more vile and feminist.

Religon, feminism and women is a recipe for disaster

Was stupid clown his name? Harikiri fellatio?

No from the thread I created, some Brazilian, he assumed I was not KHHV because it is 'impossible in Brasil to be Incel', but I stated to him that I'm autistic and he didn't understood and said autistic men here get pussy.

He does not understand that I'm unable to approach women 'the correct way', I'm upfront and honest, I talk to then like I'm talking to a dude or any other person, which is not the way to go apparently, I need to be delicate and on my tip toes, fuck that.

 

[Sir Silentium]

Same for this Christian bitch I've meet

She mentioned not wanting to have children plus asked how would I raise my son 'properly', then I mocked her religion (Mormon) and it went aaaaaaall downhill from there lol, she absolutely floored me because of it.

Very shitty experience with zoomer women, very.

And I'm not hitting on a 30 + either, these must be even more vile and feminist.

Religon, feminism and women is a recipe for disaster

Kek at 'modern' christian women not wanting to have children. They have been brainwashed.

No from the thread I created, some Brazilian, he assumed I was not KHHV because it is 'impossible in Brasil to be Incel', but I stated to him that I'm autistic and he didn't understood and said autistic men here get pussy.

He does not understand that I'm unable to approach women 'the correct way', I'm upfront and honest, I talk to then like I'm talking to a dude or any other person, which is not the way to go apparently, I need to be delicate and on my tip toes, fuck that.

That's odd

 

[She Does Not Exist]

Kek at 'modern' christian women not wanting to have children. They have been brainwashed.

They don't want children with ND average guy, they want children with NT above average guy, that's the thing.

Don't fall for the feminism BS, they want children, but not with us, every woman, christian or not is like that.

FYI also NEET which is a death blow in Brasil, but I do have more money than all zoomers I know plus house, but each and every country is different, being ND and NEET in Brasil is over, in the US plenty of ND and NEET guys score.

This is why many men geomaxx, they want to change the 'average' to be superior to other men and increase their chances, but they don't notice it so they don't known that each country being average is different than the next.