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The drive to make children is a trick of nature. Nothing commendable in reproducing

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Consider these facts:

1/ You only transmit 50% of your genes when reproducing, and you have no control over what genes get into the embryo. Crossing-over during meiosis ensures a semi-random gamete creation. For all you know, your wife may contribute more "brain genes" than you to your child. Your child may resemble his mother more than his father in behavior and intelligence. And he may inherit your bad looks on top of that.

2/ At each generation, your genes get diluted further and further. Your great-great-great-great-grandchildren will have nothing in common with you. Do you even know who your great-great-grandfather was?

3/ "Education" mostly fails. Children who turn out exactly how their parents hoped for are rare. Peer influence, school milieu, mental health and genetics play a bigger role in outcomes than parental investment. See The Nurture Assumption. Most parents are disappointed by their children. Some even live a nightmare because of their children. Your 10-year old boy may, or may not, listen to your wise words of advice during a forest trip.

4/ People who say reproducing is altruistic (usually, it's linked to a political and religious discourse accusing modern westerners of hedonism and selfishness) are liars. Actual altruism is adopting an orphan. People who reproduce do so out of narcissism or social custom.

5/ Millions of good men in history died without children due to war, religious vows, natural infertility or tragedies. Many geniuses died without children. It's not a big deal to die without children.

If you are obsessed about reproduction, and depressed over dying without children, you are uneducated and looking for an excuse to be depressed.
 
Not only that, but it's extremely immoral to reproduce. High IQ post
 
Consider these facts:

1/ You only transmit 50% of your genes when reproducing, and you have no control over what genes get into the embryo. Crossing-over during meiosis ensures a semi-random gamete creation. For all you know, your wife may contribute more "brain genes" than you to your child. Your child may resemble his mother more than his father in behavior and intelligence. And he may inherit your bad looks on top of that.

From evolution's POV you're not supposed to have only one offspring for this very reason. Not long ago (evolutionarily speaking), having a dozen kids was considered normal and still is in some cultures. The 1-2 kids thing is pretty new and one of the areas where society has artificially (i.e. because it's consciously decided by humans) overruled evolution.

2/ At each generation, your genes get diluted further and further. Your great-great-great-great-grandchildren will have nothing in common with you. Do you even know who your grandfather was?

They don't get diluted that much. The 'important' genes are pretty strongly conserved over generations, some even since the beginning of Homo sapiens.
 
Jfl at having children. The last thing the earth needs is more people. It's a bad cycle anyway, you reproduce, so you will need your offspring to reproduce and so on. a Vicious and endless cycle in order to maintain the family line.
 
From evolution's POV you're not supposed to have only one offspring for this very reason. Not long ago (evolutionarily speaking), having a dozen kids was considered normal and still is in some cultures. The 1-2 kids thing is pretty new and one of the areas where society has artificially (i.e. because it's consciously decided by humans) overruled evolution.
We're not in this situation anymore, are we?

They don't get diluted that much. The 'important' genes are pretty strongly conserved over generations, some even since the beginning of Homo sapiens.
Important genes coding for Golgi complexes or lysosomes get of course transmitted generation after generation. Without them the fetus would not be viable.

The genes coding for your mental outlook and tastes? Or your peculiar smile? They will get erased real fast I'm afraid, because they're not strictly necessary for survival.
 
I believe all incels's stance should be anti-Natalism on childbirth
 
We're not in this situation anymore, are we?


Important genes coding for Golgi complexes or lysosomes get of course transmitted generation after generation. Without them the fetus would not be viable.

The genes coding for your mental outlook and tastes? Or your peculiar smile? They will get erased real fast I'm afraid, because they're not strictly necessary for survival.

Ok, depends on what you consider to be YOU, then. Whether you will consider your child to be a successful reproduction if it looks like you or acts like you or has the same brain structure.

As an indicator of fitness, I would consider IQ to be the best bet, which is (afaik) determined to like 90% by genetics.
 
Reproduction is the root cause of all evil.
 
"Muh reproduction" is narcissism.
 

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