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I already know that everyone on this forum is fully aware that religions are a cope and God doesn't exist, but I still wanted to share my thoughts on this subject.
So let's begin.
Why the concept of god makes no sense
The definition of God according to the abrahamic monotheistic religions, is that he's an all-powerful, intelligent, emotional, perfect being who created the entire universe including humans.
If you think more about it, this definition makes absolutely no sense.
Firstly we know that the bible teaches us that God loves the humanity. That God loved us so much to the point sacrificing his "only son" Jesus to the cross, whatever that means. Love is an emotion and that's where the problem comes from: You can't be all-powerful and emotional at the same time, it doesn't make any sense.
We humans and animals have emotions for survival purposes only. Because having emotions allows us to create bonds with other members of our species. And bonds are important for the survival of the species, firstly because you're more vulnerable to predators and enemies when alone. In this context, having allies of your species is a win for the species as a whole. And secondly because there also has to be a bond between a mother and her baby, otherwise the mother would not care about her baby and abandon him, and this would ultimately result in extinction of the species.
As you see, we experience emotions because of clear and objective reasons.
But God? No. If he's all-powerful and immortal then he has nothing to worry about. So why the fuck would he have emotions? He doesn't need them!
Why the fuck would he create anything, if he's all-powerful? Because he could simply create nothing and use his powers to give to himself infinite and eternal pleasure.
In other words, if he truly existed he could endlessly experience the greatest pleasure WITHOUT creating this entire fucking universe and earth and humanity.
The final conclusion we can take, is that creating ANYTHING would be a waste of time for God, if he truly existed. So logically and objectively we can be 100% SURE that the definition of God as in the abrahamic religions is 100% false and illogical. He can't be all-powerful and emotional at the same time, it's a self-contradiction.
And let's not forget the fact that God existing would mean he's allowing ALL of the unfairness and suffering that's occuring in this world.
This quote perfectly explains my final point:
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
- Epicurus
Why the concept of heaven makes no sense
Heaven is usually, according to religions, the eternal place of afterlife that's much more beautiful that the Earth where we are right now.
Now we were able to understand in the first part why God can't love us. But, for the sake of the argument, let's pretend for one second that God want us to experience infinite pleasure in heaven with him.
But why the fuck would he even do that when he could simply use his powers to give us infinite pleasure without having or experiencing anything?
Or better, he could simply use his powers to remove our need to feel pleasure. Or in other words: not create humans at all.
This proves that the existence of humans, the Earth, the universe, everything (including heaven) is unnecessary and it would be a waste of time for god to even bother creating these.
Why the concept of hell makes no sense
Hell is supposed to be the opposite of heaven, basically a place of eternal torment and suffering as a punishment for the non-believers.
Another illogical religious concept jfl. Because the existence of hell poses so many problems:
- Couldn't God just erase humans instead of sending them to hell, and make everyone forget about them?
- Couldn't God just not create evil humans in the first place?
- How is it moral to eternally torture a human being just for not obeying the commandments, when there are clearly situations when it's impossible to obey them perfectly? (example: your parents ordering you to worship another god. In this case no matter what you do you break a commandment, you can either break the first or fifth commandment. Maybe not the best example but you hopefully get what I mean)
- Even is hell is so horrible, wouldn't the humans adapt to it? If the pain is really extreme and unhelpful in every way then our mind would learn to ignore it over time (because in that context it's an undesirable thing in every way) or we'd just go crazy enough to not even be bothered by it anymore.
Conclusion
Do you know what gods have in common with three-sided squares? They both can't exist according to the laws of logic.
The question itself about the existence of God makes no sense.
Same for heaven. Same for hell. There's no reason for these places to even exist jfl.
So let's begin.
Why the concept of god makes no sense
The definition of God according to the abrahamic monotheistic religions, is that he's an all-powerful, intelligent, emotional, perfect being who created the entire universe including humans.
If you think more about it, this definition makes absolutely no sense.
Firstly we know that the bible teaches us that God loves the humanity. That God loved us so much to the point sacrificing his "only son" Jesus to the cross, whatever that means. Love is an emotion and that's where the problem comes from: You can't be all-powerful and emotional at the same time, it doesn't make any sense.
We humans and animals have emotions for survival purposes only. Because having emotions allows us to create bonds with other members of our species. And bonds are important for the survival of the species, firstly because you're more vulnerable to predators and enemies when alone. In this context, having allies of your species is a win for the species as a whole. And secondly because there also has to be a bond between a mother and her baby, otherwise the mother would not care about her baby and abandon him, and this would ultimately result in extinction of the species.
As you see, we experience emotions because of clear and objective reasons.
But God? No. If he's all-powerful and immortal then he has nothing to worry about. So why the fuck would he have emotions? He doesn't need them!
Why the fuck would he create anything, if he's all-powerful? Because he could simply create nothing and use his powers to give to himself infinite and eternal pleasure.
In other words, if he truly existed he could endlessly experience the greatest pleasure WITHOUT creating this entire fucking universe and earth and humanity.
The final conclusion we can take, is that creating ANYTHING would be a waste of time for God, if he truly existed. So logically and objectively we can be 100% SURE that the definition of God as in the abrahamic religions is 100% false and illogical. He can't be all-powerful and emotional at the same time, it's a self-contradiction.
And let's not forget the fact that God existing would mean he's allowing ALL of the unfairness and suffering that's occuring in this world.
This quote perfectly explains my final point:
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
- Epicurus
Why the concept of heaven makes no sense
Heaven is usually, according to religions, the eternal place of afterlife that's much more beautiful that the Earth where we are right now.
Now we were able to understand in the first part why God can't love us. But, for the sake of the argument, let's pretend for one second that God want us to experience infinite pleasure in heaven with him.
But why the fuck would he even do that when he could simply use his powers to give us infinite pleasure without having or experiencing anything?
Or better, he could simply use his powers to remove our need to feel pleasure. Or in other words: not create humans at all.
This proves that the existence of humans, the Earth, the universe, everything (including heaven) is unnecessary and it would be a waste of time for god to even bother creating these.
Why the concept of hell makes no sense
Hell is supposed to be the opposite of heaven, basically a place of eternal torment and suffering as a punishment for the non-believers.
Another illogical religious concept jfl. Because the existence of hell poses so many problems:
- Couldn't God just erase humans instead of sending them to hell, and make everyone forget about them?
- Couldn't God just not create evil humans in the first place?
- How is it moral to eternally torture a human being just for not obeying the commandments, when there are clearly situations when it's impossible to obey them perfectly? (example: your parents ordering you to worship another god. In this case no matter what you do you break a commandment, you can either break the first or fifth commandment. Maybe not the best example but you hopefully get what I mean)
- Even is hell is so horrible, wouldn't the humans adapt to it? If the pain is really extreme and unhelpful in every way then our mind would learn to ignore it over time (because in that context it's an undesirable thing in every way) or we'd just go crazy enough to not even be bothered by it anymore.
Conclusion
Do you know what gods have in common with three-sided squares? They both can't exist according to the laws of logic.
The question itself about the existence of God makes no sense.
Same for heaven. Same for hell. There's no reason for these places to even exist jfl.
