Serious The concept of banter doesn't even make any sense.

[caineturbat2003]

Before my OCD started to flood my mind with questions that need answers, I was fine with banter. I didn't care that much about it. But once my OCD started to act like "banter in nature is meant to psychologically hurt you and destroy your self worth", that's when shit started to click.

And since then when I was looking at people, they all started to look like jerks to psychological masochists/good taking cucks that honestly looked like they came from some NTR hentai comic.

And from this point on, I became obsessed with the concept of banter. Why would any healthy minded person ever engage in sort of behavior without not ending up punching the person they "banter" with? How on Earth could someone banter with someone while at the same time keeping their relationship intact?

Sadly, even to this day I didn't find any convincing answer. I was about to come to the conclusion that it was just another brutal animalistic display of dominance from normalfags. Another brutal BP nuke.

With the expection of one answer from Soyddit saying something along the lines of "it's meant to train you up and prepare you when you will meet actual assholes that will insult you. Once you have done a good amount of banter, you are ready to reflexively shoot back an even more hurtful insult.". Honestly, that's the best answer I have ever heard without making it sound like a cope.

What are your personal explanations?

 

[McFlurryCel]

no banter for my facE

 

[Emba]

I think its a form of oneupmanship. Like every communication is a battle for social dominance.

It comes from TV shows. Where folks are trained to be rude assouls.

Stuff like Seinfeld.

As you may have notice I'm kinda good at it.

It's a bit like fencing with words. (It helps if you know a lot of words.)

 

[caineturbat2003]

I think its a form of oneupmanship. Like every communication is a battle for social dominance.

It comes from TV shows. Where folks are trained to be rude assouls.

Stuff like Seinfeld.

As you may have notice I'm kinda good at it.

It's a bit like fencing with words. (It helps if you know a lot of words.)

Yea, but the thing is I didn't sign up to this BS. If that is the actual explanation and not preparing you up for actual dirtbags, then what's stopping a truecel from not punching and destroying that normalfag's face?

Actually, at this point what's making it any different than just plainly insulting someone?

 

[Emba]

Before my OCD started to flood my mind with questions that need answers, I was fine with banter. I didn't care that much about it. But once my OCD started to act like "banter in nature is meant to psychologically hurt you and destroy your self worth",

You are correct, sir! Yes! Lol!

that's when shit started to click.

And since then when I was looking at people, they all started to look like jerks to psychological masochists/good taking cucks that honestly looked like they came from some NTR hentai comic.

And from this point on, I became obsessed with the concept of banter. Why would any healthy minded person ever engage in sort of behavior without not ending up punching the person they "banter" with? How on Earth could someone banter with someone while at the same time keeping their relationship intact?

Ding ding ding!

We have a winner!

Its design to DESTROY relationships!

Sadly, even to this day I didn't find any convincing answer. I was about to come to the conclusion that it was just another brutal animalistic display of dominance from normalfags. Another brutal BP nuke.

Yes.

With the expection of one answer from Soyddit saying something along the lines of "it's meant to train you up and prepare you when you will meet actual assholes that will insult you. Once you have done a good amount of banter, you are ready to reflexively shoot back an even more hurtful insult.". Honestly, that's the best answer I have ever heard without making it sound like a cope.

This is kind of true.

What are your personal explanations?

It's a good way to keep you're wits sharp in a hostile world.

But not all banter is vicious. Some is used for team building....

 

[Emba]

Yea, but the thing is I didn't sign up to this BS. If that is the actual explanation and not preparing you up for actual dirtbags, then what's stopping a truecel from not punching and destroying that normalfag's face?

Actually, at this point what's making it any different than just plainly insulting someone?

If its "a fren" or a stranger? Mostly for us, they are enemies. Looking to publicly piss on us to mark their territory!

I bet this is what you're post is about. Instead of just the concept of it?

 

[tearyourlightsout]

Neurotypical people being confusing

I was very weird and socially unaware growing up so I didn’t understand it for the longest time.

From how I understand banter, it’s a form of riffing and teasing without pissing off the other person. Usually a back and forth that creates a set of rapid punchlines.

I took me years to adjust to social situations and cues like that, and even then they still catch me by surprise sometimes. It can be exhausting sometime

 

[Emba]

Neurotypical people being confusing

I was very weird and socially unaware growing up so I didn’t understand it for the longest time.

From how I understand banter, it’s a form of riffing and teasing without pissing off the other person. Usually a back and forth that creates a set of rapid punchlines.

I took me years to adjust to social situations and cues like that, and even then they still catch me by surprise sometimes. It can be exhausting sometime

Some dudes do it way too much IRL. It's like they can't do anything but banter.

 

[caineturbat2003]

If its "a fren" or a stranger?

Honestly with a friend, a stranger doing that is seriously asking for someone to punch him.

Instead of just the concept of it?

The point of my thread was to understand how it is any different in essence from just plainly insulting someone and how are friendships maintained without making it sound cucked.

 

[VλREN]

A little bit of banter bruv

 

[tearyourlightsout]

Some dudes do it way too much IRL. It's like they can't do anything but banter.

I know someone like that, I see him once a week. When it’s used to frequently it loses it’s value and feels forced and insincere. There’s a lot of ways to bond with people using social skills and little exercises and banter is one of those ones that seems to work best when it’s used at well placed timing that has to be intuited from vibes alone.

 

[Emba]

Honestly with a friend, a stranger doing that is seriously asking for someone to punch him.



The point of my thread was to understand how it is any different in essence from just plainly insulting someone and how are friendships maintained without making it sound cucked.

Think of it from an American Indian warrior tribal custom POV.

Each fren toughens up the other, so they can be stronger and faster when the REAL enemy eventually shows up.

Sort of like a watered down military drill Sargent.

A push to make you less weak...


If you think the "good natured abuse" is bad, just wait until the enemy abuse happens... (It will be far worse.)

 

[Emba]

The fastest way to stop unwanted banter is to ignore it and stay on the desired topic.

 

[caineturbat2003]

If you think the "good natured abuse" is bad, just wait until the enemy abuse happens... (It will be far worse.)

I am not saying that it's bad. Moreso I was afraid that the conclusion of it was some another BP trvke where saying "it's just banter bro" is another way of gaslighting the truecel from retaliating and the normalfag getting away with it.

Kinda like when the jew steals everything you ever had and he gaslights you with "it's actually for your good goy".

 

[Emba]

I know someone like that, I see him once a week. When it’s used to frequently it loses it’s value and feels forced and insincere. There’s a lot of ways to bond with people using social skills and little exercises and banter is one of those ones that seems to work best when it’s used at well placed timing that has to be intuited from vibes alone.

Brutal AF. Once a week is a bit presumptuous. But I got it beat.

Once every few (+) months! The dude acts like 0 time has passed and we are old frens that go back for years! Just like a traditional NPC lol!
(Maybe he's just a assoul?)
Maybe you're once a week dude is a NPC too?

 

[Emba]

I am not saying that it's bad. Moreso I was afraid that the conclusion of it was some another BP trvke where saying "it's just banter bro" is another way of gaslighting the truecel from retaliating and the normalfag getting away with it.

Kinda like when the jew steals everything you ever had and he gaslights you with "it's actually for your good goy".

Yeah, it depends on context. For sure.

For incels, banter from noncels is probably just abuse.

 

[caineturbat2003]

Yeah, it depends on context. For sure.

For incels, banter from noncels is probably just abuse.

Fucking hell, the fact that normalfags are also lookist bastards makes it more harder to distinguish what's actual banter and what's just another means for social dominance.

 

[Emba]

Fucking hell, the fact that normalfags are also lookist bastards makes it more harder to distinguish what's actual banter and what's just another means for social dominance.

I would probably just consider it abuse. And social dominance tactics... it's the safest bet.

But don't react to it. Just let it slide. The reaction is what they want....

But the verbal/ textual abuse that you'll receive here on .is, is banter.