Serious The Best Thread Here I Have Ever Seen

[DreamCoper]

I Find the Idea of Sex Repulsive, and I Hate Myself for Being Shackled by It.

Why do I have to inseminate a female? "It ensures more genetic diversity." Why ensure more genetic diversity? "It increases your offspring's chance of survival. Why should I care about that? There's no direct answer. Why do I need to continue on this never-ending Assyrian stairwell of life...

incels.is

High IQcels please give it another read this is possibly the most beautiful writing I have ever seen but got basically no attention, this thread is largely what fully converted me here.

 

[Wrath]

TLDR

 

[DreamCoper]

TLDR

 

[Glassness]

Il ask ChatGPT to summarise thanks

 

[DreamCoper]

Il ask ChatGPT to summarise thanks

Wouldn't do that it'll report you to palantir

 

[Clavicus Vile]

So smart, and it’s so well written too. I seriously wish I were that intelligent.

 

[coursehawk69]

Thanks, that was an interesting read. 2nd law heat death of the universe is some heavy existentialist shit. I question though, as beings aware of this march towards destruction, what does it really mean to object to it?

The way I'm seeing it, the universe was instilled with some initial energy in the form of high order. Yes, entropy is always increasing (unless we figure out some breakthrough way to hack the universe, or if God is in control and can just do whatever). But what does it mean to say no, I'm not going to contribute? It's like being given a wind-up toy that can only unwind once, and refusing to let it play out. What makes not using up the stored energy of the universe better than using it? And I'm not talking about conserving it for a hopeful better use in the future, that's reasonable. I mean, if you outright refuse to use the energy, you're already in like a self-imposed heat death state.

 

[vic624]

reads like new age woman bullshit

 

[DreamCoper]

Thanks, that was an interesting read. 2nd law heat death of the universe is some heavy existentialist shit. I question though, as beings aware of this march towards destruction, what does it really mean to object to it?

The way I'm seeing it, the universe was instilled with some initial energy in the form of high order. Yes, entropy is always increasing (unless we figure out some breakthrough way to hack the universe, or if God is in control and can just do whatever). But what does it mean to say no, I'm not going to contribute? It's like being given a wind-up toy that can only unwind once, and refusing to let it play out. What makes not using up the stored energy of the universe better than using it? And I'm not talking about conserving it for a hopeful better use in the future, that's reasonable. I mean, if you outright refuse to use the energy, you're already in like a self-imposed heat death state.

The most brutal thing is that if you rope or "stop taking up energy" as you put it, you have achieved nothing, entropy tends to a max in a closed system, an individual human is not a closed system so you are not fighting back against any laws of the universe, and you just leave room for more normies and foids to create even more entropy, really the only way to achieve anything is sterilising the Earth if you consider the solar system an effectively closed system, but entropy will increase all the same. I just hate that no matter what I do, I am a product of this one rule which has created so much suffering, and that there is nothing I can do to deny it, normies will keep copulating, keep destroying. It is over.

 

[gamer_identity]

I have concerns for the arguments in the linked OP.

Life is suffering because entropy is not a high IQ argument, it is the plot of madoka magica.

You can watch the anime if you want the point of view from an artist who actually believes your argument. DM me and let me know what you think of the show if you wish.

I have a more sincere take:
The universe does tend towards chaos
Life is an instrument of this disorder, proven by the quick and inevitable death of all organisms
Suffering is caused by this inevitable death, the quick snuffing of life by cold universal logical processes and predators
Human suffering, such as inceldom, is an integral part of the human condition due to our relationship with the universe as a lifeform.
Human conscience arises from these chaotic conditions and accelerates its natural processes

Basically, I agree with everything that was written. I do not agree with the overall attitude and lack of solutions.

Humans are given a choice as to whether they propagate suffering. Our sexuality is not bounded by the cold calculation of the evolutionary process. Our choice to make other humans suffer is voluntary, and unique in all of life. Our suffering as incels is not because females are naturally hypergamous, it is because they choose to be.

I can't lie, there are natural processes involved in sex that are repulsive and alienating. It is the choice of our society to allow these disagreeable parts to be expressive of the whole. We have the ability to live full and virtuous lives in prosperity with our society. Society simply does not see this as desirable. Past societies valued men like us, and in part our condition was far more rare. It is only due to the decline of social institutions which once helped people prosper that we inhabit a world which seems cruel and disgusting. We have been thrown out of the bosom of society and nature has ravished our minds. Those in power once held authority because of their ability to ward off danger. Now they cause our anguish.

Is insemination really all there is to sex? The parts of sex and intimacy which are beautiful have been ridiculed. Our statues to prosperity have been torn down and replaced with filth. Everyone thinks about orasms. When did we separate love from intimacy? Our relationships have been largely destroyed for the profit of an enemy which is more malicious than the chaos of the universe. I hate that the OP did not name our actual enemy. Only one species voluntarily causes our suffering. Our leaders are blind and our intellectuals are ideologically captured. The men who were meant to inherit the peak of human society were killed in the millions less than a hundred years ago. There's no one left to fight for us, the truth, our suffering.

Our enemy is ourselves. We are weak and vulnerable to the challenges of our time. Human existence is unique to the universe as there is nothing like us. I think it is wrong to allow universal concepts like entropy to define us; what is means to be human is not entropy. Being an incel is an aspect of my suffering, but it is not who I am as a person. I appreciate my brothers who also suffer. No other place has so accurately described the condition of loneliness and hypergamy than this site. It is unfortunate that the only valid criticism of the BP is that it is often fatalistic in interpretation. It is possible that OP is so blackpilled that he thinks the universe is literally constructed to make him suffer with 99% efficiency