Discussion The 90 degrees uphill battle of the modern man

[Deleted member 32502]

There is lots of exaggeration of what a Chad is. I feel like some posters believe Chads are superhumans. That is cringe and bluepilled. Humans are a gynocentric species, not Chadcentric. Your average 5/10 foid SMV mogs every Chad. This forum is too Chadcentric and it makes postercels believe Chads are superhumans who can freely choose who to fuck.

Take a look at the graph. That's a 23 year old female posting her Tinder data. All those men who received a like are Chads and Chadlites. That's the top 10% of men. See how there's 3645 men who are in top 10% who got the privilege to get a like from this foid? Only 5 of them got a date. Even if you mog the living shit out of 95% of other men. Imagine going outside and mogging every man you encounter. Well, too bad, that doesn't mean shit. There is always competition when it comes to foids. There is always someone who makes you sit the fuck down. And there are thousands of them. The numbers are always against you as a man. This happens when human biology meets technology. Every foid has to much demand you cannot compete. It's a numbers game you are never going to win even if you brutally mog every other man you encounter in your daily life.

Well, what if you somehow made it? You truly ascended and got a wife? Not even that is good if you ask me. Men hold no power in relationships. The only power men have is saying no and walking away. That is the only move men can play. But the thing is you can't do that if you are married and have kids and a mortgage. She can, at any given time, take the kids and divorce. You end up paying child support, maybe something for the foid depending on country and laws and agreements. You lose the house, see your kids one weekend per month and pay thousands for the bitch. See how you have no power if the bitch decides to start nagging and cheating? You are in chains and a mentally unstable whore holds power over you. She can do as she pleases and you have to take the shit. You can't play the only possible move you have in your kit - walking away - without ruining your entire life. You have to take shit and obey. But sometimes that's not enough. Obedience does not guarantee success. She can always divorce you because she has some hormonal imbalance and there was a mysterious guy in her workplace. There is no counter play to this. You cannot make a move that counters this. You are powerless.

It's truly over. There is nothing you can do. It's difficult to put into words how over it is. Everything is against you. Biology, society, laws, culture, technology. It's not a slightly deep uphill battle. It's rigged against you in every possible way you can imagine. Not only is it extremely difficult to get a date, but after you get one your only move is to say no and go away or lose your human rights. The game is rigged and there is no reward. This is the real magnitude of overdom. This is how over it truly is.

It seems that women tower men in a way

 

[BANG]

yes its over on multiple levels, you would have to looksmaxx and ntmaxx unrealistically and even then it will be over

 

[Deleted member 32502]

Just keep her interested bro

Women lose all sexual interest within a couple of years. There is nothing you can do.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

No, if males distribute attention to 80% of women, while women distribute their attention to the top 5% of men (Chads), then statistically Chad is getting way more attention focused on him compared to females (assuming the same number of males and females).

 

[Lebensmüder]

No, if males distribute attention to 80% of women, while women distribute their attention to the top 5% of men (Chads), then statistically Chad is getting way more attention focused on him compared to females (assuming the same number of males and females).

 

[trying to ascend]

No, if males distribute attention to 80% of women, while women distribute their attention to the top 5% of men (Chads), then statistically Chad is getting way more attention focused on him compared to females (assuming the same number of males and females).

Yes, but if foids swipe right for everyone, they will receive way more attention than chad.

They can get more attention than chad, but they don't want it coming from non chad men, thats what I think OP was trying to say.

And chads receive less attention from stacies than the average women receive from chads

 

[Deleted member 32502]

No, if males distribute attention to 80% of women, while women distribute their attention to the top 5% of men (Chads), then statistically Chad is getting way more attention focused on him compared to females (assuming the same number of males and females).

The numbers aren't equal. Tinder is 85-90% male. Also so many women are getting their attention from apps (TikTok, Snapchat, whatever is popular) they do not have any need for dating. Every dating platform (dating platform can be anything that leads to dating) is overwhelmingly majority male. The women who participate in dating are having a sausage fest while men are playing lottery. Any Chadfishing experiment proves Chads receive way less attention than women. Getting a match isn't guaranteed to get a date. The number game goes like this: like -> match -> message -> respond -> keep the convo up -> get a date -> she actually shows up and doesn't ghost you. That's only the get a date. You roll the RNG between every step.
I think it's because the dating scene is truly over 90% male and less than 10% female. So many women have an abundance of options without even trying they don't bother to sign up for dating in anyway. Women seem to be okay without taking part in the dating scene.

 

[Deleted member 21230]

You took all this time of your life just to defend chads on a forum. Jfl at cuckcels.co

 

[Deleted member 32502]

You took all this time of your life just to defend chads on a forum. Jfl at cuckcels.co

How did I defend them? This forum is gays4chads.co with all the Chad admiration threads. I'm trying to break the echo chamber and show that Chads get mogged by every woman. There are no fictional characters such as the Giga Chad in real life.

 

[Deleted member 21230]

How did I defend them? This forum is gays4chads.co with all the Chad admiration threads. I'm trying to break the echo chamber and show that Chads get mogged by every woman. There are no fictional characters such as the Giga Chad in real life.

chads are part of the enemy. You're pushing the usual narrative that only foids are bad because you want to defend your dear chads

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

The numbers aren't equal. Tinder is 85-90% male. Also so many women are getting their attention from apps (TikTok, Snapchat, whatever is popular) they do not have any need for dating. Every dating platform (dating platform can be anything that leads to dating) is overwhelmingly majority male. The women who participate in dating are having a sausage fest while men are playing lottery. Any Chadfishing experiment proves Chads receive way less attention than women. Getting a match isn't guaranteed to get a date. The number game goes like this: like -> match -> message -> respond -> keep the convo up -> get a date -> she actually shows up and doesn't ghost you. That's only the get a date. You roll the RNG between every step.
I think it's because the dating scene is truly over 90% male and less than 10% female. So many women have an abundance of options without even trying they don't bother to sign up for dating in anyway. Women seem to be okay without taking part in the dating scene.

The OP was comparing Chad and average femorrhoid, not random normie male

Yes, but if foids swipe right for everyone, they will receive way more attention than chad.

They can get more attention than chad, but they don't want it coming from non chad men, thats what I think OP was trying to say.

And chads receive less attention from stacies than the average women receive from chads

Nah, if you are Chad, everyone that is Stacy and below wants to fuck your brains out, including married women.

 

[trying to ascend]

The OP was comparing Chad and average femorrhoid, not random normie male


Nah, if you are Chad, everyone that is Stacy and below wants to fuck your brains out, including married women.

This also applies to foids, If you are a foids, every men wants to fuck your brains out, including married men, even gigachads want

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

This also applies to foids, If you are a foids, every men wants to fuck your brains out, including married men, even gigachads want

nah, I doubt gigachads will fuck any becky. Stacylite is their rock bottom probably.

 

[Pengwin]

Women sexualize themselves and will spend a lot of time and effort in doing so, women are also notoriously crazy for male attention, but of course they want to have the cake and eait it too, so it's society's fault.

 

[trying to ascend]

nah, I doubt gigachads will fuck any becky. Stacylite is their rock bottom probably.

Yes they would, you really think there isn't ugly or average women with gigachad boyfriends? JFL

 

[Deleted member 32502]

The OP was comparing Chad and average femorrhoid, not random normie male

Nah, if you are Chad, everyone that is Stacy and below wants to fuck your brains out, including married women.

nah, I doubt gigachads will fuck any becky. Stacylite is their rock bottom probably.

You are living in your own fantasy world with these Chads and Giga Chads and Beckys and Stacys who spend every waking minute penetrating each other. Your posts are delusional and sad. I see tall good looking men all the time and they barely ever have good looking girlfriends.
If you looked at numbers you would realize it's not Chad and his friend Giga Chad who are teaming up and penetrating every foid in existence at the same time. There is more competition for foids, there is less supply of foids, foids have so many options they do not need to even think about dating. I have spent some time lurking normalfaggot platforms and I see the same thing there: young women don't give a shit about dating and men are as desperate as it gets.

It's sad to see those delusional comments about fictional characters. In reality, it's about numbers and competition. When there's 2 males for 1 female in the dating markets obviously everyone loses.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

The only power men have is saying no and walking away. That is the only move men can play.

you can always beat your wife, in fact it's recommended to do so a beating a day keeps the hysteria away

Yes they would, you really think there isn't ugly or average women with gigachad boyfriends? JFL

yeah and you show foids one example of this and anything can happen they will not settle for anything less than gigachad. after all, that becky made it, so should they

 

[Deleted member 33091]

It doesn't matter whether Chad wins or women win.

The only thing that matters is that we incels lose.

 

[Honeypot]

No, if males distribute attention to 80% of women, while women distribute their attention to the top 5% of men (Chads), then statistically Chad is getting way more attention focused on him compared to females (assuming the same number of males and females).

Woman and male don't give the same amount of attention, males have more sexual drive and social anxiety, this is why Chad(and chadlite) recieve less attention than an average woman despite being the only one fucking or having gfs.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Yes they would, you really think there isn't ugly or average women with gigachad boyfriends? JFL

Nope

You are living in your own fantasy world with these Chads and Giga Chads and Beckys and Stacys who spend every waking minute penetrating each other. Your posts are delusional and sad. I see tall good looking men all the time and they barely ever have good looking girlfriends.
If you looked at numbers you would realize it's not Chad and his friend Giga Chad who are teaming up and penetrating every foid in existence at the same time. There is more competition for foids, there is less supply of foids, foids have so many options they do not need to even think about dating. I have spent some time lurking normalfaggot platforms and I see the same thing there: young women don't give a shit about dating and men are as desperate as it gets.

It's sad to see those delusional comments about fictional characters. In reality, it's about numbers and competition. When there's 2 males for 1 female in the dating markets obviously everyone loses.
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Looking back at the data and what you said, I realized you're right.
It's beyond over for males.
The top 10% of males are still below the top 60% of women, aka 4s and up.
I can't cope.

Woman and male don't give the same amount of attention, males have more sexual drive and social anxiety, this is why Chad(and chadlite) recieve less attention than an average woman despite being the only one fucking or having gfs.

yeah, you guys are right.

 

[Honeypot]

Nope

Looking back at the data and what you said, I realized you're right.
It's beyond over for males.
The top 10% of males are still below the top 60% of women, aka 4s and up.
I can't cope.

yeah, you guys are right.

Just search for landwhale tinder experiments here on incels.co and realize how is not rare to at least have 5 chads trying to fuck one 150kg woman

 

[Deleted member 32502]

Looking back at the data and what you said, I realized you're right.
It's beyond over for males.
The top 10% of males are still below the top 60% of women, aka 4s and up.
I can't cope.

I am glad you woke up.

ust search for landwhale tinder experiments here on incels.co and realize how is not rare to at least have 5 chads trying to fuck one 150kg woman

The chest-haired pig landwhale experiment at 1 hour 18minute mark
Average woman in wheelchair SMV mogs male models at 7:30 mark
Becky the landwhale goes on Tinder in LA, matches with high tier men
The messages Becky the landwhale receives
Downie girl goes Tinder and SLAYS
1/10 landwhale on Tinder
Giga Chad vs average high tier foid. 27% match rate vs 70% match rate. 28 messages vs 378 messages in 1 day
But women hit the wall,right? 68 year old and matches with Chads

You get the point. It's over. Truly over.

 

[Honeypot]

I am glad you woke up.




The chest-haired pig landwhale experiment at 1 hour 18minute mark
Average woman in wheelchair SMV mogs male models at 7:30 mark
Becky the landwhale goes on Tinder in LA, matches with high tier men
The messages Becky the landwhale receives
Downie girl goes Tinder and SLAYS
1/10 landwhale on Tinder
Giga Chad vs average high tier foid. 27% match rate vs 70% match rate. 28 messages vs 378 messages in 1 day
But women hit the wall,right? 68 year old and matches with Chads

You get the point. It's over. Truly over.

Match is not the same as texting tho, I have saw male normies just spamming the match button, Tinder should leave at least one second wait time till the next person.

 

[Deleted member 32502]

Match is not the same as texting tho, I have saw male normies just spamming the match button, Tinder should leave at least one second wait time till the next person.

That's coping, bro. All of those experimental profiles get their inboxes filled while Giga Chad looking guy gets some 20 messages. Men get absolutely fucking nothing from dating. It's beyond over for men and that's not because of spamming the like button LOL

 

[Izayacel]

society enables and worships woman over man

( onlyfans , hypergamy , knowing female value is inherit ( tits ass , body ) etc. )

they abused it so man start acting up , or killing themselfs .

Imagine doing everything right and getting fucked over after your divorce , or get cheated on while your in millitary

nah nah fuck that shit .

 

[Honeypot]

That's coping, bro. All of those experimental profiles get their inboxes filled while Giga Chad looking guy gets some 20 messages. Men get absolutely fucking nothing from dating. It's beyond over for men and that's not because of spamming the like button LOL

I didn't say that exactly, Chads may spam match button without even seeing the woman, I saw it before.

I also saw Chads texting with landwhales to fuck her, one thing doesn't invalidate the other.

 

[Meus]

No, if males distribute attention to 80% of women, while women distribute their attention to the top 5% of men (Chads), then statistically Chad is getting way more attention focused on him compared to females (assuming the same number of males and females).

Absolutely. OP is right about some things but he is underestimating Chad. There is one fat difference he hasn't mentioned. As a Chad you are always in control, as a Stacy you aren't. Remember: Women want marriage and not just to fuck. Chad just wants to fuck. He can lead foids on and fuck them indefinitely and pretend to have deeper feelings for them. Women literally can't fuck without developing feelings, at least if he is a Chad. She will undoubetly only focus on the most giga Chad she knows and want to marry him and neglect inferior Chads. Foids are simply like that. But Chad? He can focus on literally 50 Staceys equally and even if he neglects some, even better! They fucking love that because it shows he is high value. Yes, women are fucking garbage.

Another important thing is that a foids value will decrease the more partners she had, a Chads literally increases. Even if a foid tries to hide it you simply can tell which foid rode the cock carousel and which one didn't. They get increasingly more masculine because their partners DNA literally never leaves their body. They get mental problems too.

Chads entire life is nothing but a fucking rollercoaster ride that gets better each fucking day, unfathomable to non-Chads. PLUS he can simply switch foids for younger ones his entire fucking life and never get married, but usually they still get married.

So sorry to disappoint you OP, but your entire post reeks of sad cope and sour grapes. Yes, Chads life is really as awesome as the legends say and yes it is painful that we aren't him but you need to accept it bro.

And it is retarded to say a staceys life even comes close to that because you left out the most important thing. Chad has still a dick and is in control of emotions, unlike foids. He lives the best of both worlds. As much sex as a foid, but the brain of a male. Literally the ultimate existence.

So a foids existence looks nice and shiny on the outisde but is actually hollow and limited. They COULD fuck anyone they ever fucking wanted but they have only a limited amounts of fucks before their reputation is ruined or their body or their health. Why do you think most foids look like fucking garbage in their 30s?

Chads existence actually has substance. He can fuck whoever he wants and he will not only not get punished for it, he will be fucking praised.

 

[Deleted member 32502]

As a Chad you are always in control, as a Stacy you aren't. Remember: Women want marriage and not just to fuck.

That isn't true for two reasons:
1) Stacy towers Chads in SMV. There is no doubt of this. Chad holds power over some 3/10 foids at best. Any above average woman gets so much attention Chads can't compete.
2) Women don't want marriage. Not anymore. Women are hopping off the marriage train. They are fine not even dating. This is why there are so many men on the dating markets and so few women. It's that women don't give a fuck. This isn't 50's anymore. Women don't care about marriage and settling down by age 25. There is no wall for women. There wouldn't be incels if women had any urgency to marry.

He can lead foids on and fuck them indefinitely and pretend to have deeper feelings for them. Women literally can't fuck without developing feelings, at least if he is a Chad. She will undoubetly only focus on the most giga Chad she knows and want to marry him and neglect inferior Chad. Foids are simply like that. But Chad? He can focus on literally 50 Staceys equally and even if he neglects some, even better! They fucking love that because it shows he is high value. Yes, women are fucking garbage.

Women have already fried their pair bonding capabilities to the point where they are completely free of emotions. Their bodies are only getting more fried as they keep accumulating body count. Chad loses his youthful looks and hits wall and can't match with foids anymore.

Another important thing is that a foids value will decrease the more partners she had, a Chads literally increases.

There is no proof of this. it's not like the women who get 5k likes on Tinder per week suddenly lose all their value because they had a little bit of sex.

Chads entire life is nothing but a fucking rollercoaster ride that gets better each fucking day, unfathomable to non-Chads. PLUS he can simply switch foids for younger ones his entire fucking life and never get married, but usually they still get married.

Do you think Chads really gain value all their lives? Men, just like women, peak when they are young. You think old Rogan, without his statusmaxxed character, would still fuck young women in today's environment? Do you actually, for real, believe that young women look at our friend Joey's bald head and round shapeless face and think he's still hot? Do you think young women would pick old Rogan over young Rogan? If you do then you are bluepilled

So sorry to disappoint you OP, but your entire post reeks of sad cope and sour grapes. Yes, Chads life is really as awesome as the legends say and yes it is painful that we aren't him but you need to accept it bro.

There is zero proof that any Chad mogs above average women. The only "proof" of this legendary Chad is everyone claiming Chads have massive harems and they make living penetrating every foid on the planet. There is no proof of widespread polygamy where Chads hoard women. Do Chads have lots of sex? Absolutely yes but not in an unimaginable amounts.

My point here is not that Chad looking men don't exist. Of course they do. My point here is this:
1) There is no proof that the state of dating and sexual markets is caused by Chads hoarding women
2) There is a massive surplus of men on the dating markets compared to female supply
3) Women's expectations are astronomical and a larger portion of women are starting to have near infinite SMV
4) Dumpsterdiving causes even lower bracket women to have even higher standards (e.g. a 7/10 man has to dive deeper into the trash bin and look for 2-3/10 women instead of 4-5/10 women)

You need to start looking at numbers and statistics instead of Chad's gonial angle and hunter eye canthal tilt. You can't take everything at face value and simply say "lol women want to get married and Chad has infinite harems and he does nothing but impregnate Stacies all day."
You have to remember that there is a massive amount of average, below and above average looking men who are sex-starved. These hordes of average men are taking over all dating platforms. It's gigantic sausage fest of horny celibate men looking to score any woman they can. And there aren't that many women looking to date. Women don't have high T levels so they don't have high sex drive. More and more women are fucking dogs, focusing on careers or just partying for fun. Women are not taking part in dating as actively as men. They are not horny and desperate. The amount of women in dating markets is small. I would estimate dating markets to be around 60-75% male depending on country. So there're 2-3 males per female. The competition is real.

It's the numbers that are against you, not Chad's deep set eyes and jawline.

 

[Deleted member 31092]

That isn't true for two reasons:
1) Stacy towers Chads in SMV. There is no doubt of this. Chad holds power over some 3/10 foids at best. Any above average woman gets so much attention Chads can't compete.
2) Women don't want marriage. Not anymore. Women are hopping off the marriage train. They are fine not even dating. This is why there are so many men on the dating markets and so few women. It's that women don't give a fuck. This isn't 50's anymore. Women don't care about marriage and settling down by age 25. There is no wall for women. There wouldn't be incels if women had any urgency to marry.

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Women have already fried their pair bonding capabilities to the point where they are completely free of emotions. Their bodies are only getting more fried as they keep accumulating body count. Chad loses his youthful looks and hits wall and can't match with foids anymore.


There is no proof of this. it's not like the women who get 5k likes on Tinder per week suddenly lose all their value because they had a little bit of sex.

Do you think Chads really gain value all their lives? Men, just like women, peak when they are young. You think old Rogan, without his statusmaxxed character, would still fuck young women in today's environment? Do you actually, for real, believe that young women look at our friend Joey's bald head and round shapeless face and think he's still hot? Do you think young women would pick old Rogan over young Rogan? If you do then you are bluepilled
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There is zero proof that any Chad mogs above average women. The only "proof" of this legendary Chad is everyone claiming Chads have massive harems and they make living penetrating every foid on the planet. There is no proof of widespread polygamy where Chads hoard women. Do Chads have lots of sex? Absolutely yes but not in an unimaginable amounts.

My point here is not that Chad looking men don't exist. Of course they do. My point here is this:
1) There is no proof that the state of dating and sexual markets is caused by Chads hoarding women
2) There is a massive surplus of men on the dating markets compared to female supply
3) Women's expectations are astronomical and a larger portion of women are starting to have near infinite SMV
4) Dumpsterdiving causes even lower bracket women to have even higher standards (e.g. a 7/10 man has to dive deeper into the trash bin and look for 2-3/10 women instead of 4-5/10 women)

You need to start looking at numbers and statistics instead of Chad's gonial angle and hunter eye canthal tilt. You can't take everything at face value and simply say "lol women want to get married and Chad has infinite harems and he does nothing but impregnate Stacies all day."
You have to remember that there is a massive amount of average, below and above average looking men who are sex-starved. These hordes of average men are taking over all dating platforms. It's gigantic sausage fest of horny celibate men looking to score any woman they can. And there aren't that many women looking to date. Women don't have high T levels so they don't have high sex drive. More and more women are fucking dogs, focusing on careers or just partying for fun. Women are not taking part in dating as actively as men. They are not horny and desperate. The amount of women in dating markets is small. I would estimate dating markets to be around 60-75% male depending on country. So there're 2-3 males per female. The competition is real.

It's the numbers that are against you, not Chad's deep set eyes and jawline.

All your posts in this thread have been supremely based and high IQ. I think the dating market can be summed up in two sentences: The game is rigged and designed for us to lose. Trying to win this game is like trying to win the lottery.

 

[Deleted member 32502]

I don't understand this argument and where it comes from.

Women want to get married, bro!

There is no statistical proof of this. Women are avoiding marriage and settling down like plague. Birth rates are going down everywhere and women are openly celebrating abortion. There just isn't any proof women want anything long term. Every proof out there goes against this. It's the opposite actually. It's men who need to lock down a woman as quickly as they can to somewhat secure a source of sex and intimacy. Women have no trouble getting men, why would they want to settle down for some average guy?

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

I don't understand this argument and where it comes from.

There is no statistical proof of this. Women are avoiding marriage and settling down like plague. Birth rates are going down everywhere and women are openly celebrating abortion. There just isn't any proof women want anything long term. Every proof out there goes against this. It's the opposite actually. It's men who need to lock down a woman as quickly as they can to somewhat secure a source of sex and intimacy. Women have no trouble getting men, why would they want to settle down for some average guy?
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If they do want long term, it's to be a parasite and life off a man's money.

 

[Deleted member 32502]

If they do want long term, it's to be a parasite and life off a man's money.

I could be wrong but maybe the next standard is to be statusmaxxed Giga Chad? Just think about celebs and ecelebs on apps like TikTok or Chad actors on Netflix cinema? That's what women spend their time watching. Maybe the next standard is to be a TikTok Giga Chad or a Giga Chad actor or to sing in a Giga Chad boyband?

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

I could be wrong but maybe the next standard is to be statusmaxxed Giga Chad? Just think about celebs and ecelebs on apps like TikTok or Chad actors on Netflix cinema? That's what women spend their time watching. Maybe the next standard is to be a TikTok Giga Chad or a Giga Chad actor or to sing in a Giga Chad boyband?

Either way, it's so far beyond over for us.

 

[mentally lost cel 1]

yes its over on multiple levels, you would have to looksmaxx and ntmaxx unrealistically and even then it will be over

Exactly but I can’t do both fuck this shit