Serious Teutonic Knight is right on his post and this discouragement needs to stop among other things.

[Deleted member 14120]

Reading Teutonic Knight's post regarding the problem of others trying to prevent incels from improving their own lives or asking for help in order to improve themselves. I agree with him since I noticed this to for the time I've spend on here reading. I do not approve where this community is going and I want to help out those who want help to leave the dark hole they are in. Help with ways to better improve yourself everyday such as working out, eating right, cooking, and so on. The reason for this is that I've noticed the rise of NEETcels growing on here ever since the /r/Braincels ban by the kike faggots of Reddit. With many of them complaining about how they can not get out of their dark hole by ignoring the obvious solution right in front of them. The fact is that they can change, but refuse to do so and rather be lazy than fix their own personal problems that can be easily fixed such as learning to drive and getting a car.

I was like you, 19 yrs old out of HS lacking a girlfriend, job, and lived with my parents. I went to a community college to get all of the same shit that you've learned in HS before going to an university. I'm an High IQ autist, but I do not let that hold me the fuck back nor push me into a life of despair like I see here. With one post claiming that with anyone with autism is doomed from the start and to be honest that is fucking bullshit. I've worked too hard and fought with the corrupted school system that listed me as disabled even though I was way more fucking smarter than them, luckily I was never medicated. I was given medication many times, but I never took it because I knew what that shit does to your brain.

Once I finished all of my classes, I started to get ready to move out so that I can fulfill my life that I want to form not in under the control of parental guardians who despise every decision you make and force you to do shit such as washing the dishes even though you're fucking home that day while I was working. That was my life and I hated it, being forced to do shit while the fat foid step-mom did little and being punished by the main parent for not doing what the step mom tells you to do. Being told that I was worthless every fucking day by that step mom for not looking for a job even though I went to every interview, registered for every position, only to still get nothing. Much as I wanted to go NEET, I just could not stand that woman at all, could not see myself squalor in self-despair and depression. I wanted to leave. So I did. I moved out and started to improve everything from diet, clothing, to body improvement, even going to therapy to improve on talking with others in public.

I work now, mostly so I do not have the time to be on here that much, but I do read the stuff on here. I have to say, this attempt of preventing or discouraging self-help needs to stop. If we want to improve as a free speech self help community rather than what the cucks of IT and the media paints us to be. We need to stop the encouragement of NEET, gloryfication of ER and many others who followed that path, as well the encouragement to go ER. because all that is doing is only giving ITcucks more fuel for their mocking machine designed to piss all of us off and make that one person who will go ER at Reddit HQ. Getting us into more trouble with the feds and the military. Instead of getting help, we all will be locked away in some prison or mental health facility.

When I came here, I had the impression this was a place for self-help that was being unfairly targeted by the media and the idiots at ITits on Reddit for it's open free speech content as with any site that refused to conform to their standards. Back then, i found this place a little cleaner along with the idiocy of Nathan Larson's content & advocation of going ER as "economically viable". Today, I find this placed filled with NEETs with stupid anime avatars talking about how fictional anime characters are actually real people in real life and that it's worthless to even try working out or statusmaxxing as you all call it. With many supporting the act of suicide rather than changing your own personal life situation that is causing the despair.

Today, I'm stronger than I was several years ago. I'm able to get over my introvertness and not let my autism hold me back from achieve the goals that I want to reach. You can do it too, all it takes it dedication and the will to achieve it. Who the fuck cares about that chad, foid, or that 16yr old kid giving you a stare in class, work, in the gym or out in public. You're a fucking adult not a child, ignore them. Someone calls you ugly, get over it. I was called ugly many fucking times through out my teens and still today as an adult. Do I let that take hold of me? No! I fucking do not! I ignore them and believe they need to get their eyesight checked.

Teutonic Knight's post: https://incels.is/threads/many-peop...t-other-incels-from-trying-to-improve.147999/

 

[TheSecondComing]

Not a single word

after he said Teutonic knight was right I stopped reading because i read the original post already lol

 

[Monk of Failure]

Improvement or attempt to improve is good.

 

[Robtical]

We need to stop the encouragement of NEET, gloryfication of ER and many others who followed that path, as well the encouragement to go ER. because all that is doing is only giving ITcucks more fuel for their mocking machine designed to piss all of us off and make that one person who will go ER at Reddit HQ. Getting us into more trouble with the feds and the military. Instead of getting help, we all will be locked away in some prison or mental health facility.

Never let those cucks and fags alter how we feel. If we're happy a group of rosties got killed, then so be it. If we want to be NEET and not contribute to the cucked system, then that should be encouraged. I don't want my tax money going to a gynocentric government and useless single mom whores.

 

[TheUnfortunateLad]

My good man, I do believe your are engaging in what is called a "coping" mechanism.

 

[Deleted member 5653]

Nah hes a virtue signalling faggot who pretends he doesnt need women to be happy... meanwhile hes posting here on a forum for men who cant get a girlfriend.
Cope harder

This, dudes main point is : Just lift bro, become ogre bro.

 

[RemoveNormalfags]

We need to stop the encouragement of NEET,

I hate my wagie job so fucking hard, there is no real reason to work as an incel loser.
I work every single day with humans and I'm still unable to normally interact with them.
Some people are doomed since their birth.

But you are right, we should focus more on giving each other tips, we should be a supportive group.

 

[Deleted member 19236]

My good man, I do believe your are engaging in what is called a "coping" mechanism.

 

[Akhnai]

Fren,let me come here and tell right now that self improvement does not make you a better person than a anime NEET.

If you enjoy self improvement,do it then.I too,enjoy self improvement as a cope.
But in the end even after all of our self improvement nothing will truly change in the sexual market.You are simply deluding youself so,and believing that just because you put a lot of effort into self improvement then the yield will be worth the labour you put into it.
It does not.Unless you become a millionaire and have lots of facial surgery it will never change.
All the stimulus you can gain from self improvement and 'achieving your dreams' can be gained through ldaring and injecting enormous amount of junk to your body.

 

[Terranigma]

I'm able to get over my introvertness and not let my autism hold me back from achieve the goals that I want to reach

How many foids have you banged recently?

This post (just like the other one) is full of normie tier bluepilled advice and cope-maxxed.

Normal people don't need this kind of shit mental gymnastics to make sense of their lives.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

Thanks for this. I'm 30 years old and I have different phases in my life. I started really improving myself in early 20s and I eventually got benefits from that which helped me improve mentally and also physically and in every way. If I had the blackpill NEET mentality when I was like 22, it would be very bad for me and I could probably even die because of alcohol or something.

I would also like to point out that it doesn't bother me if some people choose to be NEETs or whatever, but they shouldn't force their lifestyle to others here and constantly spam threads that are meant for improvement. If you want to live like that it's your choise, I won't judge these people and maybe they really have it so bad that it's worthless. However I think that like 80% of people here could really benefit if they put in the REAL WORK, especially people younger than 25.

 

[vic624]

Many NEETcels might just be going through a temporary self-reflection period. I would think such a period is almost necessary these days, since you need to almost detoxify yourself from the bluepill mainstream to be able to see the world as it really is.

Many psychologists believe "PTSD" for military veterans is over diagnosed and the real problem is often adjustment disorder. Well, it's pretty major to accept the blackpill; for many it's a "world shattering" realization and I'd expect some "adjustment disorder."

 

[Teutonic Knight]

Also posts like this should be banned. I don't why mods allow this shit. You're literally discouraging people to post long meaningful post. If you don't want to read it, why would you post about it just to be a dick?

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[Deleted member 19236]

Also posts like this should be banned. I don't why mods allow this shit. You're literally discouraging people to post long meaningful post. If you don't want to read it, why would you post about it just to be a dick?

use the report button theory

 

[Teutonic Knight]

Many NEETcels might just be going through a temporary self-reflection period. I would think such a period is almost necessary these days, since you need to almost detoxify yourself from the bluepill mainstream to be able to see the world as it really is.

Many psychologists believe "PTSD" for military veterans is over diagnosed and the real problem is often adjustment disorder. Well, it's pretty major to accept the blackpill; for many it's a "world shattering" realization and I'd expect some "adjustment disorder."

I don't give a shit what they're doing, but they seem to have a problem with incels who want to improve and are often passive agressive and try to discourage.

 

[vic624]

I don't give a shit what they're doing, but they seem to have a problem with incels who want to improve and are often passive agressive and try to discourage.

Yeah, what I meant was that *being* in that NEET stage my be akin to rehab and not in and of itself bad. It shouldn't be something people are content with though, so I agree about the misery-loves-company brigade being toxic.

 

[TheReaper]

yes but what are these people actively doing in order to stop someone from self-improving?
nobody is forcing neets to ldar or eating junk food.
if all it takes to destroy your will to improve your life is a comment by a faggot who says "just ldar,bro", then you are fucked anyway.

 

[Deleted member 19236]

@JanJegerTiger , what do you think about this:

https://incels.is/threads/for-incel...lity-irony-of-self-improvement-advice.138702/

 

[RichCel]

Cope. So much fucking cope.

There are two parts to this. One, self-improvement is not bad. Make money, take care of yourself, gymcel. It is better to be a well-off healthy incel than a broke unhealthy incel. That part I agree with, as long as it is acknowledged that self-improvement is cope. It isn't going to turn any of us into normies or chads. It will just make us more comfortable.

Which brings me to the second part. No matter what we do, we will always be incels. Incel is terminal and incurable; anyone who says otherwise or claims that he "left inceldom", "ascended", "found the one" or "discovered that NAWALT" is either a lying cunt, or was never an incel to begin with, or both.

Our inceldom IS what defines us. Our hatred of foids and cucks is justified and righteous. If it's not the first thing you feel when you wake and the last thing you feel when you close your eyes each night, you haven't become fully blackpilled. You are right and justified in feeling joy when you see someone go ER or seeing foids die and normies wailing and gnashing their teeth like it's some kind of a tragedy.

Blackpill is the only pill. Everything else is bullshit.

 

[Deleted member 19236]

Cope. So much fucking cope.

There are two parts to this. One, self-improvement is not bad. Make money, take care of yourself, gymcel. It is better to be a well-off healthy incel than a broke unhealthy incel. That part I agree with, as long as it is acknowledged that self-improvement is cope. It isn't going to turn any of us into normies or chads. It will just make us more comfortable.

Which brings me to the second part. No matter what we do, we will always be incels. Incel is terminal and incurable; anyone who says otherwise or claims that he "left inceldom", "ascended", "found the one" or "discovered that NAWALT" is either a lying cunt, or was never an incel to begin with, or both.

Our inceldom IS what defines us. Our hatred of foids and cucks is justified and righteous. If it's not the first thing you feel when you wake and the last thing you feel when you close your eyes each night, you haven't become fully blackpilled. You are right and justified in feeling joy when you see someone go ER or seeing foids die and normies wailing and gnashing their teeth like it's some kind of a tragedy.

Blackpill is the only pill. Everything else is bullshit.

One can buy surgeries and model his face as he pleases, so the blackpill still wins in the end, but he can ascend.

 

[RichCel]

One can buy surgeries and model his face as he pleases, so the blackpill still wins in the end, but he can ascend.

He can get a gold digger at best, and that won't last either.

 

[LastGerman]

such as learning to drive and getting a car.

Driver licence mogged once again. Lol at that. This is not easy at all and lol at getting a car. Just get a car brah.

 

[Invalidusername]

it's the rise of encouragementcels

 

[dyellow]

it's the rise of encouragementcels
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I've been waiting for this day, about to start a series

 

[Deleted member 8353]

There is some cope here, in that you could do all sorts of things to try and improve your life, but you have to recognize that these likely won't resolve the core issue which brings us here in the first place. Unless you can afford surgerymaxxing, doing so would actually fix your appearance, and you wouldn't be so old by the time you could afford it that it would actually be worth doing. Not to mention that this path is a potentially risky one.

Regarding the discouragement of self improvement, well I think that actually goes both ways. As in there are many people here who regard being NEET, distancing yourself from life, watching anime, and pretty much anything this post mentions(btw your implied relationship between some of this stuff is dubious at best) with open hostility, and ultimately it should take more than a few posts on an internet forum for you to determine how to live your own life.

Who the fuck cares about that chad, foid, or that 16yr old kid giving you a stare in class, work, in the gym or out in public. You're a fucking adult not a child, ignore them. Someone calls you ugly, get over it. I was called ugly many fucking times through out my teens and still today as an adult. Do I let that take hold of me? No! I fucking do not! I ignore them and believe they need to get their eyesight checked.

I'm confused. What exactly would telling myself that I'm not ugly accomplish, aside from simply using denial to avoid confronting a painful truth? If foids don't want me, if this is discernible by their own actions(and in some cases, inaction), then me telling myself that I'm attractive is genuinely meaningless.

Driver licence mogged once again. Lol at that. This is not easy at all and lol at getting a car. Just get a car brah.

Pretty much the same is true of everything else being mentioned tbh.

 

[Player]

Tried self-improvement for all my life.
Recently leveled up to wizard. I guess all this hard work paid off, lol.

 

[happiless]

Maybe if you stop posting your anecdote like its true for all autists. You're the good type of assburger, a smart one who isn't too autistic. Some of us aren't smart including me.

But at least you aren't deluded enough to think you or we can self improve ourselves into a foid's pussy.

 

[The Abyss]

Ya know what would help many? Employment options for ASD sufferers & introverts that do not expect you to force yourself to behave neurotypically & doesn't hold you to the same standards as a regular socially savvy normie. Now I don't know what its like in other countries but in the UK there's fuck all in the way of employers or groups/charities pushing to help high functioning autists gain employment & be self reliant.

 

[Player]

Driver licence mogged once again. Lol at that. This is not easy at all and lol at getting a car. Just get a car brah.

Why you are so obsessed with driver licence? For example, if you have one, but can't afford a car, it is as good as non existent.

 

[ManletHalfCurry]

Why you are so obsessed with driver licence? For example, if you have one, but can't afford a car, it is as good as non existent.

Because he hits the gym brutally

 

[LastGerman]

Why you are so obsessed with driver licence?

Because it is absolutely crucial to have it.

 

[Player]

Because it is absolutely crucial to have it.

Well, I have driver licence, but can't even remember how to drive.

 

[LastGerman]

Well, I have driver licence

Driver licence moggs me hard.

but can't even remember how to drive.

Females do it without any effort.

 

[Big Yikes]

I don't know this forum, of course, but this is a general issue that comes up in various anti-clown-world communities.

And generally speaking: you can work out, cook, meditate, read a book rather than play video games all the time ... and still call a spade a spade, a cope a cope. This here is true:

yes but what are these people actively doing in order to stop someone from self-improving?
nobody is forcing neets to ldar or eating junk food.
if all it takes to destroy your will to improve your life is a comment by a faggot who says "just ldar,bro", then you are fucked anyway.

While it's better to be incel than cuck, incels are still right about how being lonely, unpartnered and later unmarried, without children, without grandchildren, robs your life of meaning and fucks with your soul. (Let alone your quality of life when you're sick and old and have no family to care for and about you.) MGTOW is wrong about this, incels are right. Human beings are meant to bond with each other. (And the Catholic church always was a den of perverts, freaks, rapists, queers, and pedophilies. Catholic monks and priests are NOT a healthy role model, JFL. If anything, they are an example of what happens when you repress this natural human instinct to bond and to fuck.)

There is no surrogate for this. My issue with these motivational speakers is that they tend to throw out the baby with the bathwater. They have this enthusiasm people have who have recently converted to a new religion often have. And this enthusiasm is always fragile and fake. Of course, deep down they do NOT believe in this or that tenet of faith. They just immerse themselves in it now, they just watch youtube sermons and videos about religion x / healthy food y / exercise z all the time. And the fragility of their belief then makes them angry and wrathful towards everyone who threatens this belief. They leash out at non-believers who were their friends yesterday because their friends' unbelief threatens their fragile belief as well. And this is the vibe I often get from these Jordan-Peterson-types of motivational speakers. Their belief in their cope is SO fragile that even a silly meme reply is enough to make them rage.

Also, the other issue is that there are no individual solutions to structural problems. And inceldom, feminism, women are a structural problem. But American libertarianism is like a poison that poisons all movements no matter how left or right or religious they otherwise are. There's always this bootstrap-ideology, the idea that there individual solutions to structural problems - and that those who point out how insufficient individual solutions such as "work hard, pray hard, work out, just ask for the manage, just be confident, bro" are, are somehow just lazy and mean and wicked and basically deserve to suffer. It's like the sexual version of a cuckservative boomer's "boostrap-"ideology.

 

[iKillCucks]

[SOY]

 

[Dregster]

Never let those cucks and fags alter how we feel. If we're happy a group of rosties got killed, then so be it. If we want to be NEET and not contribute to the cucked system, then that should be encouraged. I don't want my tax money going to a gynocentric government and useless single mom whores.

Paying tax is cope when you're 6 figure networth and mog the average normgroid to hell and back.

Having nice things normgroids will never have is God tier cope.

Neet isnt living, you're just a deadman breathing, getting mogged by mininum wage cucks.

Why you are so obsessed with driver licence? For example, if you have one, but can't afford a car, it is as good as non existent.

Because he's fucking retarded.

JFL I hate driving and was forced to learn. It's nothing special.

Because it is absolutely crucial to have it.

Then go get one you absolute dumbfuck. Instead wasting countless days on here, you should be striving to change the things thats within your range of actually changing.

There is literally nothing special about driving.

Functional people do it without any effort.

Fixed for you, moron.

 

[Robtical]

Paying tax is cope when you're 6 figure networth and mog the average normgroid to hell and back.

Having nice things normgroids will never have is God tier cope.

Neet isnt living, you're just a deadman breathing, getting mogged by mininum wage cucks.

How does an incel with no experience get a 6 figure job though? Anything less isn't worth it.

 

[Antorian]

I will not censor myself because of what IT nad other bluepilled cucks may think. What you need to realize is that they already hate us anyway, so what does it matter if we say what is truly in our mind and that they don't like? So I will say that Elliot was right, and to hell with anyone who doesn't like it.
Now for the rest, self-improvement is alright, as long as you don't begin to think that you are better than NEETcels.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

Human beings are meant to bond with each other. (And the Catholic church always was a den of perverts, freaks, rapists, queers, and pedophilies. Catholic monks and priests are NOT a healthy role model, JFL. If anything, they are an example of what happens when you repress this natural human instinct to bond and to fuck.)

Says a pederast with an anime avatar. JFL.

Just another female worshipper who thinks he can't live without muh wahmens. You're literally in the same white knight state like the cucks are.

 

[Deleted member 14218]

While you are lifting the weights Chad is lifting her on his dick