Many people here are desperate to prevent other incels from trying to improve

[Teutonic Knight]

Any time someone opens a thread dedicated to trying to help incels to improve something, there are always a lot of replies of members saying how this particular improvement didn't work for them and want to make the thread about themselves and their own shortcomings which they project on all other incels. They jump straight to conclusion that this improvement doesn't work for incels at all because it didn't work for them.

You even had posts about how incels shouldn't care about eating healthy and shit like that.

Recently I opened a thread encouraging people to do boxing and gave reasons why exacly it could benefit and I immediately got a bunch of members complaining how they couldn't do this and that and how that isn't for them. Why the fuck would you even post this? If you can't do a certain thing because of your own limitations why the hell would you want to discourage others to try it unless you are a total shit of a person? People should keep that for themselves and stay out of threads dedicated to improving.

For example when I see threads encouraging people to try game and socialize I don't go in there and make it about myself how I can't do this because I'm not NT and then try to suggest that it's pointless for all incels to try. This is a shit thing to do because there are young people here who would benefit from trying different things and not everyone is some disabled autistic and deformed.

I don't like the direction in which this community is going where this forum is overrun by a bunch of NEETs with degenerate anime avatars literally wanting to force their LDAR lifestyle to young incels and try to lure them into thinking they have some common ground just because they can't get girlfriends. It makes me think that most of this forum is female worshipping where if you can't get girlfriend by the time you're 18 you should just give up on literally everything and everything else that you do is degraded as some trivial "cope". When I came here, I had an impression that this community wanted to help people who are in similar position and I think the atmosphere on the forum was a bit better then. I remember that there were more serious threads with long posts that got a lot of replies. Now it's basically slowly getting reduced to "I can't get a 16 year old virgin so everything is useless" and a bunch of members trying to "statusmaxx" by baiting IT or repeating the same phrases over and over.

Shit like "driverlincencepill" is indicator of that. Like seriously, if that is such a big problem for you then get a fucking driver's license then. It's something that is very easy to fix. But of course, after you say this someone will just come in and say "but I can't get driver's lincence because xy." Alright you can't, but like 90% of incels who are without one could if they absolutely wanted to.

Now here is the most crucial thing: there are millions of men who are single and virgins out there. Not everyone of them is beyond saving when it comes to improvement and pursuing meaningful things if life. Yet a lot of people here act like every incel is some deformed autisic disabled person who wouldn't benefit from training sports.

The blackpill tells you that you can't get women because of something very trivial like looks. That means that incels are people who simply don't possess the desired easthetics for the current society. It doesn't mean that an incel should necessarily also be weak, not gifted for sports, unconfident and other things. I'm athletic and strong and can do a lot of things well and I think many here are too or can achieve this level with hard work like I did. Because this is all that it matters, you need to put in the real work, and not for getting girlfriends but to improve as a man.

 

[Deleted member 15737]

I'm a rotting corpse and a wagecuck so I'll just ignore this thread.

 

[Parrtlord]

I can't even take herbal bubble baths and talk about them without having one calling me a degenerate ass cuck or something

 

[boringcel]

I hate when someone use terms like "self improvement" , but I agree with most that is said here. If you enjoy doing something and you feel you are good at it, there is no reason to stop doing it and it is also normal to try to help others who you feel could benefit from that.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

I think it's okay to have genuine hobbies, and it's okay to pursue boxing in that sort of way. I just think the nihilism goes hand-in-hand with the blackpill. I have to admit I am addicted to the negativity, such that anything positive seems like a lie. Even if what you say is true, and is scientifically valid, I am not in an emotional state to accept it.

The redpill these days is pretty blackpilled thanks to our handywork. Maybe you're more MGTOW by today's standards.

 

[VirginAutistManlet]

I'm not against doing things, but im against doing things in the attempt that you think it will change your situation in a major way. Thinking anything you do will have this profound impact on your life is bluepilled/redpilled bullshit. When you're at a certain stage in life and you're blackpilled it is over and nothing you do can change the years or decades you've missed, it is as simple as that.

I do things like lift weights because it's one of the few things I enjoy, and it's become a habit. I wouldn't recommend lifting weights to anyone whose thinking its going to change their situation with the opposite sex. You should lift weights if you want to expend energy some how, in isolation, without needing other people, and it can be more fun to expend energy through weights, compared to endlessly walking or running outside.

So if anyone here says they're "Gymmaxxing" or "Incomemaxxing" or whatevermaxxing in some attempt that it will make them become a normie and that it will take back everything they've already missed out on and been denied for years/decades, no, I will call you retarded and talk you out of doing it.

Just do what you want to do, but don't do it in the attempt that it will significantly change things for you, it might just make your life slightly more bearable, or help you cope better, but its not going to be some happy ending at all, you will just end up even more angry, more sad, more depressed, and more bitter if you do it in the attempt that you will have this huge life improvement.

 

[ovrload]

and it can be more fun to expend energy through weights, compared to endlessly walking or running outside.

you gotta mix it up. i try and jog/walk at new areas in my city. i hate to be stuck at a single place lifting weights.

 

[acnescarcel]

i’m desperate to stop incels from writing essays no ones going to read

 

[GhannTC9ruVPNeNXnqb]

if someone on the internet deters you from doing something that you want then you were never going to do it anyway

 

[Teutonic Knight]

I'm not against doing things, but im against doing things in the attempt that you think it will change your situation in a major way.

But it will change the situation in major way for a lot of people. My situation changed in major way.

 

[Captain Funny]

Misery loves company.

 

[Monk of Failure]

You must try unless, of course, you're physically and mentally unfit.

 

[NEETard]

If you want self improvement then go to a self improvement forum. Weve accepted that we are and always will be incels, therefore self improvement bullshit is just spam

 

[Deleted member 21219]

if someone on the internet deters you from doing something that you want then you were never going to do it anyway

 

[Orkcel]

The blackpill tells you that you can't get women because of something very trivial like looks. That means that incels are people who simply don't possess the desired easthetics for the current society. It doesn't mean that an incel should necessarily also be weak, not gifted for sports, unconfident and other things. I'm athletic and strong and can do a lot of things well and I think many here are too or can achieve this level with hard work like I did. Because this is all that it matters, you need to put in the real work, and not for getting girlfriends but to improve as a man.

I agree, though I'm not going to NEET shame or w/e. I'm no longer a NEET, but I work flexible and short hours while living meagerly because I personally don't enjoy wage slaving. This is clearly evident by some of the posts deriding gymcels, maybe the gym isn't for you, but for me it's an amazing cope. I wouldn't mind some self improvement threads, but this place is formost a vent for our inceldom.

I can't even take herbal bubble baths and talk about them without having one calling me a degenerate ass cuck or something

Honestly the bubble bath thing is w/e. If that's what makes you feel like a kang then so be it. The real issue for me was that you were seemingly insinuating that incels shouldn't be allowed to vent their rage on possibly the only place in which that is allowed. Throwing in the fucking bubblebath just made it feel like satire.

Misery loves company.

True for many

 

[Teutonic Knight]

If you want self improvement then go to a self improvement forum. Weve accepted that we are and always will be incels, therefore self improvement bullshit is just spam

So because you can't get women you shouldn't improve yourself as a man? That's what I meant when I said most of you are female worshippers. As if everything revolves around women.

 

[NEETard]

So because you can't get women you shouldn't improve yourself as a man? That's what I meant when I said most of you are female worshippers. As if everything revolves around women.

"Improve myself as a man"

There is one goal in this life as a man, and that is to fuck women. You say improve myself but why improve myself if im not working towards something? Who are you trying to impress? Get a haircut, new clothes, gym etc then when youve done all the improvements possible look at how much time you just wasted. And youll still never have a girlfriend.
Keep coping

 

[Teutonic Knight]

There is one goal in this life as a man, and that is to fuck women.

JFL at this female worshipping cuck.

I can't believe some men can be so cucked to base their entire existence about being validated by women.

 

[mylifeistrash]

make money, invest and stay healthy

that's about the best you can do

 

[Deleted member 19079]

I can't even take herbal bubble baths and talk about them without having one calling me a degenerate ass cuck or something

lold

 

[AlwaysLawRoute]

JFL at this female worshipping cuck.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

I think you are mistaken. It's those youngcels often with mentalcel tendencies, who do this. They are inflicting this on each other. Never saw an oldcel (25+) tell people to ldar.

 

[VirginAutistManlet]

But it will change the situation in major way for a lot of people. My situation changed in major way.

Then you a what i call a failed normie, working towards normiehood.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

Then you a what i call a failed normie, working towards normiehood.

How am I a normie when I'm non-NT and below average in looks?

 

[Teutonic Knight]

Lol retard fuck off to mgtow if you dont care about women. If you didnt care that you are single then why are you here stupid cunt?

I'm blackpilled and I realize it's not under my control. Why the fuck would I need to constantly only talk about women when there are more meaningful things that can help lonely men out there?

Only an absolute fakecel would fall for the self improvement meme

So by your logic 30% of young men in society (the rough number of incel men) can't possibly improve in their life? They should just LDAR when they hit 18 or 19 or whatever?

 

[NEETard]

I'm blackpilled and I realize it's not under my control. Why the fuck would I need to constantly only talk about women when there are more meaningful things that can help lonely men out there?

Yea that new kawasaki motorbike will help you out when youre 40 years old and crying yourself to sleep because youve never loved a woman

 

[Deleted member 20434]

I can't even take herbal bubble baths and talk about them without having one calling me a degenerate ass cuck or something

This. Or how I get my face waxed instead of shave

 

[TheSecondComing]

I'm a rotting corpse and a wagecuck so I'll just ignore this thread.

based and same, don't know about that rotting corpse part though

 

[Carotel]

Agreed.
It's pretty disappointing. I'd wish for anyone here to ascend

 

[Nothingness]

I do it.

If someone opened my eyes on futility of improvment i would't have been so humaliated so broken.

Truecels - thoso who are like me - dont try to improve . We are ugly , doomed, left to die as lepers. If you were trying to improve you wasted your time and humaliated horrobly.

average looking guys - you can try.

 

[Barry]

it's why I don't post as much here anymore.

I've been looksmaxxing, moneymaxxing and statusmaxxing. Whenever I posted about this, I'd get retard teenagers saying it was bullshit.

I quit the site for like a month because I gave advice about travelling to asia and some idiot who had never even been spouted a ton of bullshit that if fellowcels had followed, would have got them in trouble.

the more I talk about trying to ascend, the more LDAR guys call me a fakecel and a cucktears infiltrator.

But honestly, a lot of incels posting are LDARs who don't want to get better and have never tried. mentalcels and fakecels who think that they should get the life of chad.

most of these guys would be happier if they logged off here and started going outside... but when you say that you get called a fakecel infiltrator. Even though these guys probably wouldn't be fucking incels if they didn't LDAR

 

[ovrload]

So because you can't get women you shouldn't improve yourself as a man? That's what I meant when I said most of you are female worshippers. As if everything revolves around women.

i agree with this statement. why improve for the sole justification on a very slim chance of attracting a foid. do it for yourself, fuck everyone else. i love when i go for a jog with my airpods in my ears listening to my music. it may be a cope, but a fucking good cope. it relaxes and makes me feel untouchable. im not gonna sit and cry all day in my room while i'm 26 years of age. i do what i want, what makes me happy.

 

[Todeswunsch]

Lol retard fuck off to mgtow if you dont care about women. If you didnt care that you are single then why are you here stupid cunt? You think you can just choose to not be attracted to women how braindead are you stop coping faggot

Doesn't mean, that everything has to be about them. You can have some copes, that don't revolve around women. Not the whole self-image should cater to the needs of foids, who will hate you no matter, what you do. Doesn't mean, that we find them unattractive or go MGTOW. Even if you are an Incel, you can still forget about those detrimental things for a few moments, when you do something you enjoy like lifting, other sports, reading etc.

 

[ovrload]

JFL at this female worshipping cuck.

I can't believe some men can be so cucked to base their entire existence about being validated by women.

teenagers they think pussy is the magic formula to make their life better. in reality females are a drain on your resources and take an emotional toll if youre a non-chad.

 

[Deleted member 13785]

No amount of self improvement will fill the hole in someone who's missing love but at the same time LDARing is possibly the most depressing thing you can do. I think a part of it is "misery loves company", when you're depressed you don't want to hear about people doing better than you, at least that is the case for me, even for people I like. Maybe I'm just not a great person.

 

[Deleted member 20195]

OP I'm not NT and I'm into boxing aswell. Do you have a job btw?

 

[Deleted member 6501]

self improvement only applies to white people

 

[Hail The Bloatlord]

I endorse this message

 

[Cheezecel]

self improvement is fine as long as its not a cope like 100% of spiritual trash or low key funnelling your money into foids and back into this degenerate society

 

[GeneticFilth]

op there is no self improvement if you are genetic shit. You can't work hard and change your shitty genetics. If you think self improvement will work for you than you aren't genetic trash and should go to looksmax. I've ate healthy before and gym maxxed guess what it did for me, absolutely nothing because I have bug eyes, recessed chin, and I'm not anywhere close to tall enough to make up for it. I also have terrible skin genetics and I went to the dermatalogist and tried different diets and it did nothing, meanwhile normies and above in looks are doing drugs, drinking tons of alcohol, having tons of unprotected sex, eating fast food, and yet they have perfect skin.

 

[StaroRavager]

Yes, the quality of threads hasn’t been the thing that has been caught in this site’s downward spiral

I can't even take herbal bubble baths and talk about them without having one calling me a degenerate ass cuck or something

JFL is he still going on about that

 

[Terranigma]

I don't like the direction in which this community is going where this forum is overrun by a bunch of NEETs with degenerate anime avatars literally wanting to force their LDAR lifestyle to young incels and try to lure them into thinking they have some common ground just because they can't get girlfriends.

I think you would be better suited to a MGTOW, lookism or redpill community ("Just improve yourself bro").

You clearly seem to despise incels (men who desire romantic/sexual relationships with women but can't have any).

The blackpill tells you that you can't get women because of something very trivial like looks

If you think looks are "trivial" you aren't blackpilled at all. You sound like a red-pill coper, except you tell yourself that you have somehow ascended above genetically implanted physical&emotional needs...

For example when I see threads encouraging people to try game and socialize I don't go in there and make it about myself how I can't do this because I'm not NT and then try to suggest that it's pointless for all incels to try

but it is pointless for incels who are told to socialise in order to get to know more foids. If there's some secondary objective to it (enjoyment out of getting wasted or whatever) there's nothing wrong with socializing, but if the stated goal is ascension, it's pointless.

 

[CaptainCuck]

The best way to find out if you are a truecel is to push yourself as far you can go (eg moneymaxing, gymaxxing, statusmaxxing). If you still get nowhere then you know for certain you are truecel, but now you have things to cope with.

 

[Invalidusername]

herbal bubble baths

degenerate cuck

jk

 

[wizardcel]

No offense to you, but I think you picked the wrong community. You are still on the redpill stage. You sound more like a MGTOW guy.

 

[Karl Bentayga]

I completely agree with you. It's just when society bullies you for years without end, incels tend find comfort in being alone or in places where no one can judge you, completely shut in. Which then often result in doing absolutely nothing productive.

It is very difficult to climb out of this comforting shell and do something with your life.
I really appreciate such efforts, I have done so myself but I stopped trying to boost the morale of other incels because it often ends in vain and I would much rather spend time on myself or activities I enjoy doing.

 

[Cheezecel]

No offense to you, but I think you picked the wrong community. You are still on the redpill stage. You sound more like a MGTOW guy.

this. if you have options that don't amount to killing/slaughter/rape/suicide you are not an incel

 

[FinnCel]

Looksmaxx first, then LDAR

If you are against looksmaxxing, then you are definitely toxic

 

[Teutonic Knight]

it's why I don't post as much here anymore.

I've been looksmaxxing, moneymaxxing and statusmaxxing. Whenever I posted about this, I'd get retard teenagers saying it was bullshit.

I quit the site for like a month because I gave advice about travelling to asia and some idiot who had never even been spouted a ton of bullshit that if fellowcels had followed, would have got them in trouble.

the more I talk about trying to ascend, the more LDAR guys call me a fakecel and a cucktears infiltrator.

But honestly, a lot of incels posting are LDARs who don't want to get better and have never tried. mentalcels and fakecels who think that they should get the life of chad.

most of these guys would be happier if they logged off here and started going outside... but when you say that you get called a fakecel infiltrator. Even though these guys probably wouldn't be fucking incels if they didn't LDAR

Thanks man. I wish you look. Keep putting in that real work.

I think you would be better suited to a MGTOW, lookism or redpill community ("Just improve yourself bro").

You clearly seem to despise incels (men who desire romantic/sexual relationships with women but can't have any).

JFL how is that despising incels? Just because you can't get a romantic relationship you should put yourself into a mental state where you literally don't do nothing at all. If you desire a romantic relationship, then you have to try to do some things. Just because there is no guarantee you will get it it doesn't mean you should do it for yourself.

If you're incel it doesn't mean that your only goal in life should be not being incel anymore.

i agree with this statement. why improve for the sole justification on a very slim chance of attracting a foid. do it for yourself, fuck everyone else. i love when i go for a jog with my airpods in my ears listening to my music. it may be a cope, but a fucking good cope. it relaxes and makes me feel untouchable. im not gonna sit and cry all day in my room while i'm 26 years of age. i do what i want, what makes me happy.

You need to spend your 20s doing things. It's definitely too early to give up.

 

[Itsover4maymaycels]

this. if you have options that don't amount to killing/slaughter/rape/suicide you are not an incel

If you genuinely think foids are so good that the only alternative to having them is suicide then you are beyond bluepilled, swallow the AWALTpill and femalenaturepill already, looksmaxx then STEMmaxx or something else that doesn't require good looks. (Admittedly few things)

 

[Cheezecel]

If you genuinely think foids are so good that the only alternative to having them is suicide then you are beyond bluepilled, swallow the AWALTpill and femalenaturepill already, looksmaxx then STEMmaxx or something else that doesn't require good looks. (Admittedly few things)

where in my message did i write anything about foids you moron?