Blackpill Take the Claviclepill

[Doug]

There are quite a lot of framecels who managed it to overcome the Frames by gaining muscle


But why does this not works for everyone?

Most People Keep on saying that their bonestructure has become wider through roids

But thats often NOT the case


It's Simply because they have Long-straight clavicles which causes a harmonious shoulder-joint Adaption on the ribcage


on 1 male and 1 female with same ribcage width, the male usually will have longer and more straigher-squarer clavicles, which causes his shoulderjoint to adapt further away from his ribcage compared to the female






Take a look at this guy named bonheur ntwari, he has a Tiny ass ribcage but his clavicles are Long and straight, which causes a gap between his shoulder and ribcage along with his shoulderjoint hanging straight

After he gained good amount of muscle mass he Looks wide asfuck, it's of Course also due his extreme small waist, but even with a bigger waist he would still look wide and aesthetic.


Now compare him to the Young Larry scott, their ribcage width is almost completely identical, he also does not have a significant wider skull than Bonheur ntwari, BUT Larry's clavicles are MUCH Shorter, causing his shoulder to look like they are compressed on his ribcage, on the red line you can also clearly see that they dont hang straight, theres Zero gap between his shoulder and ribcage.

On the Right pic he has almost the same amount of muscle like Bonheur ntwari, but he still Looks narrow and comical asfuck




CONCLUSION: You dont Need a huge ribcage to be considered Broad shouldered, you just Need masculine, straight Long clavicles


This is Jason Momoa who is known for his tall height and big Frame, but he doesnt really look wide due to his narrow clavicles, despite the fact that he has a wide bideltoid

Im not sure, but clavicle lengthening could theoretically help us to Escape framecelism

 

[GoonCel]

Lifefuel for framecels

 

[Guest2]

Informative post tbh. Incels who are solely because of frame should check if they can ascend through musclemaxxing if they have a wide clavicle.
Informative post tbh. Incels who are solely because of frame should check if they can ascend through musclemaxxing if they have a wide clavicle.

 

[Deleted member 7573]

holy fuck, my shoulders looks almost exactly like his when he was skinny, I have that exact same gap, it always look weird on photos that show my whole body because it seems my arm is really far away from the rest of my body, I have a insane life fuel right now going to go even more extreme in my gymceling

 

[Cuyen]

the claviclepill did something to me

 

[SLAVICMorPheus]

Hmm 2.5 inch LL
2 inch Clavicle.
Ascend to Gandy Heaven

 

[VincentVanCope]

Clavicles have always formed the basis of the framepill tbh.

 

[Bangkok or bust]

Its racial groups and DNA bro. Sub-saharan and Western Africans have no Neanderthal DNA. It gives them a more square shouldered look, but a generally smaller rib box and very narrow hips that gives them a great V-taper. It makes them look wider. Europeans have a lot of Neanderthal DNA giving them often sloped shoulders but barrel chests/big rib boxes and larger hips than africans. Chinese have Denisovan DNA giving them smaller upper frames that can pack on muscle but have very powerful, squat legs. They dominate Olympic lifting, where as blacks are virtually non-existent in Olympic lifting medals.

 

[Doug]

Its racial groups and DNA bro. Sub-saharan and Western Africans have no Neanderthal DNA. It gives them a more square shouldered look, but a generally smaller rib box and very narrow hips that gives them a great V-taper. It makes them look wider. Europeans have a lot of Neanderthal DNA giving them often sloped shoulders but barrel chests/big rib boxes and larger hips than africans. Chinese have Denisovan DNA giving them smaller upper frames that can pack on muscle but have very powerful, squat legs. They dominate Olympic lifting, where as blacks are virtually non-existent in Olympic lifting medals.

Thats somewhat true, although it doesnt apply to everyone, Mike Tyson had huge Hips and ribcage but narrow clavicles



Ideally you want to have a narrow waist, huge ribcage and wide clavicles

(to be fair his ribcage isnt very big, but his shoulders are awesome)

 

[Bangkok or bust]

Thats somewhat true, although it doesnt apply to everyone, Mike Tyson had huge Hips and ribcage but narrow clavicles



Ideally you want to have a narrow waist, huge ribcage and wide clavicles


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(to be fair his ribcage isnt very big, but his shoulders are awesome)

Van damme had the best proportions for a man my height (5ft9 > 5ft10).

I think he was 84kg 10% bodyfat.