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Blackpill [STUDY] Women are more physically attractive than men. Women find women better looking than men and LESS LIKELY THAN MEN to find men good-looking

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It's true: women are more conventionally attractive than men. Stacies are far more common than chads.


According to Discover:

In a study released last week, Markus Jokela, a researcher at the University of Helsinki, found beautiful women had up to 16% more children than their plainer counterparts. He used data gathered in America, in which 1,244 women and 997 men were followed through four decades of life. Their attractiveness was assessed from photographs taken during the study, which also collected data on the number of children they had. ... One finding was that women were generally regarded by both sexes as more aesthetically appealing than men. The other was that the most attractive parents were 26% less likely to have sons. Kanazawa said: "Physical attractiveness is a highly heritable trait, which disproportionately increases the reproductive success of daughters much more than that of sons. "If more attractive parents have more daughters and if physical attractiveness is heritable, it logically follows that women over many generations gradually become more physically attractive on average than men.
The study finds that attractive parents are more likely to have daughters and less likely to have sons. And attractive parents are more likely to give birth to children who grow up into attractive adults. This means that women are getting hotter and they are hotter than men. The study found people rated women as more physically attractive than men.

in this study, they found this:
In the framework of the “Tinder” task, participants indicated their romantic and sexual interest in a first step. Therefore, they were asked in which gender they are primarily interested in (opposite gender: Nmales=45 and Nfemales=61; same gender: Nmales=2 and Nfemales=2; notably, we avoided the terms hetero-, homo- and bisexual at this point since this item was to determine whether pictures of men or women were shown subsequently). Depending on their answer, they were then shown pictures of either 40 female or 40 male medium attractive faces. On 20 pictures, participants indicated their romantic interest. This involved three items to be answered on a 1=not at all to 6=very much response scale (“I would like to take up contact with this person to get to know her/him romantically”, “I would like to arrange a romantic date with this person”, “I would like to meet this person on a romantic date”; α=0.95). On the other 20 pictures, participants indicated their sexual interest. Therefore, they responded to the same three items as before; however, the word “romantic” was replaced with the word “sexual” (α=0.97). Which of the 40 pictures were shown for the romantic and sexual cate- gory was randomized across participants, as well as the order in which they were shown.
The stimulus materials for the “Tinder” task was created as follows: A total of 271 pictures of friendly-looking faces was pretested for their level of attractivity. These pictures were obtained from a social media platform to appear as naturally as possible. Thirty-one participants indicated how attractive they experienced each of the depicted persons on a 1=not at all to 8=very much response scale. Those 80 pictures which ranged most closely around the mean were chosen for the OT study (male: M = 2.91, SD =0.90, Min =1.33, Max=5.40; female: M=3.63, SD=0.90, Min=1.81, Max=5.63).
According to the Psychology Today article:
Earlier studies indeed show that women are on average physically more attractive than men both in Japan and in the United States. The analysis of the NCDS data replicates the sex difference in physical attractiveness in the United Kingdom.

As the following graph shows, 85.5% of girls in the NCDS sample are described by their teachers at “attractive” at age 7, whereas only 83.1% of boys are. The sex difference in the proportions described as “attractive” at age 7 is statistically significant.

Similarly, 11.4% of girls in the NCDS sample are described by their teachers as “unattractive” at age 7, whereas 12.0% of boys are. The sex difference is in the predicted direction, but, due to the small number of children (both boys and girls) described as “unattractive,” the sex difference here is not statistically significant.

The following two graphs show that the sex difference in physical attractiveness is similar in the United States as it is in the United Kingdom. The data come from Add Health, and physical attractiveness was measured in childhood, in junior high and high school, by an interviewer.

As you can see, girls are on average physically more attractive than boys. A majority (56.03%) of the girls are either “attractive” or “very attractive,” whereas the comparable figure among boys is much lower (41.75%). In fact, a majority (51.21%) of the boys are “about average.” Nearly twice as many girls (19.53%) as boys (10.51%) are “very attractive.” It therefore appears that, both in the United Kingdom and the United States, women are indeed more physically attractive on average than men are, at least partly because beautiful parents are, and have been, more likely to have daughters.
In a study called "The effect of aging on facial attractiveness", women rated women's faces are more attractive than men's faces. Men also rated men's faces as more attractive than how women rated men's faces. Women also rated older women and middle aged women's faces more attractive than men did (although a slight difference for older women which was on average 39 years old).


Additionally, research has shown that not many woman are totally straight. Gay women are usually mostly aroused by their own gender compared to only a minority here and there of straight women:

Researchers asked 345 women about their sexual preferences and compared these with their arousal levels when shown videos of attractive men and women.
They found 28% of straight women were mostly aroused by their preferred sex, compared with 68% of gay women.
The new study, led by Dr Gerulf Rieger from the University of Essex and published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, measured the arousal of women using eye tracking devices and direct measures of physiological sexual response.
Previous studies had already suggested that straight women were aroused by both sexes when tested, but researchers had never looked at whether the same was true for gay women.

Dr Rieger said the study's conclusion that women who identified as being completely gay were much more aroused by their preferred sex was "amazing".
He said their sexual arousal patterns were much more similar to men, whose responses tend to very accurately mirror their stated sexual preferences.
Dr Rieger said: "In the past we thought it was true of all women that they were aroused by both sexes. The fact that it appears this is not the case is amazing."
Dr Rieger said the wider conclusions of the study was that, while the majority of women identified as straight: "Our research shows that, when it comes to what turns them on they are usually bisexual or gay, but never totally straight".
However, he added the research did not necessarily mean women were repressing their true sexual preferences, but that their sexualities were simply more complex than men's.
"When it comes to straight women and sexual arousal there is such a disconnect between what a woman tells me and what her body does.
"It suggests that it's a different world for women when it comes to their sexualities."
And also women are more likely to identify as bisexual.
 
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the bar for women is lower
 
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Saint Cho said:
the bar for women is lower
What do you mean? Elaborate.
 
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Does this take into account that men's standards of attractiveness are lower for women? The average woman is far more attractive to a man than vice versa. There is a conventionally attractive woman and a woman who is considered attractive to certain types of men more than others.
 
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Edmund_Kemper said:
What do you mean? Elaborate.
I think he means no matter how ugly a women is that men will still fuck them.(juggernaut law)

So women getting more attractive doesn't mean much when most men will fuck anything with a pulse.
 
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Broly said:
Does this take into account that men's standards of attractiveness are lower for women? The average woman is far more attractive to a man than vice versa. There is a conventionally attractive woman and a woman who is considered attractive to certain types of men more than others.
i also read men are fine with moderately attractive women when it comes to flings but women only want the chads.
 
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Edmund_Kemper said:
What do you mean? Elaborate.
Broly said:
Does this take into account that men's standards of attractiveness are lower for women? The average woman is far more attractive to a man than vice versa. There is a conventionally attractive woman and a woman who is considered attractive to certain types of men more than others.
 
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These studies really need to be done after removing all the makeup, fake hair, fake eyelashes, fake eyebrows, botox, and then buzz their heads. Then let's line the women up and take photographs to use for their mugshot Tinder profiles.

Then at least it would be a more fair game.
 
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CrackingYs said:
These studies really need to be done after removing all the makeup, fake hair, fake eyelashes, fake eyebrows, botox, and then buzz their heads. Then let's line the women up and take photographs to use for their mugshot Tinder profiles.

Then at least it would be a more fair game.
i still don't know about it but maybe
 
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Edmund_Kemper said:
i still don't know about it but maybe
Even the most beautiful celebrities are average at best without makeup. Take that away and the illusion disappears.

 
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CrackingYs said:
Even the most beautiful celebrities are average at best without makeup. Take that away and the illusion disappears.

yes but who knows if that would stop women ruling the dating world or men finding all of them hot. maybe but who knows?
 
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these studies don't matter.
They aren't fair.
They should have forced the foids to not wear make up and just be in their natural form.
They wouldn't look better than dudes on average :smonk:
 
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More information and proof that women are more likely to be attractive and men are more likely to be ugly

"In survey 2975, for the sample selected, 18% of men were placed in the unattractive group; 70% in the normal group, and 12% in the very attractive group. In the case of women, 13% were placed in the unattractive group, 70% in the normal group and 17% in the very attractive group. In survey 3004, the proportions were very similar: 15% of men were placed in the unattractive group; 73% in the normal group, and 12% in the very attractive group. In the case of women, 10% were placed in the unattractive group, 74% in the normal group and 16% in the very attractive group."

 
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Broly said:
Does this take into account that men's standards of attractiveness are lower for women? The average woman is far more attractive to a man than vice versa. There is a conventionally attractive woman and a woman who is considered attractive to certain types of men more than others.
What I was wondering as well
CrackingYs said:
These studies really need to be done after removing all the makeup, fake hair, fake eyelashes, fake eyebrows, botox, and then buzz their heads. Then let's line the women up and take photographs to use for their mugshot Tinder profiles.

Then at least it would be a more fair game.
Indeed, well said
 
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I see it every day
 
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I see it every day
See what? What this study shows?
 
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Wom*n are the biggest looksmaxxers ever, no wonder why the results are like this.
 
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Edmund_Kemper said:
See what? What this study shows?
Yes,women are much more beautiful than men
 
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Women would rather go for each other. :/
 
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Studies needed to prove what humanity already knows.
 
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IdioticAsperger said:
Studies needed to prove what humanity already knows.
Humanity is bluepilled they don’t know it
 
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I've been playing with this theory for a while. Patriarchal values in society mean that men are valued for the work they can do, while women sit at home and do nothing of importance. So the only way to really differentiate between women is by the looks. The more attractive women have more babies, while the hardest working men pair their sons with them. Evolutionary pressure causes women to become more and more attractive over thousands of years, while men stay at the same level of attractiveness because there's no pressure there whatsoever.

Suddenly, the sexual revolution in the 60's happens. Now that we're a couple generations away and foids are no longer being taught to be obedient housewives, they're starting to revert back to their more primal selves where they care about attractiveness more than socially constructed values like a man's ability to provide. Suddenly 80% of men are out of place in the dating market because they don't have the benefit of thousands of years of evolutionary pressure to weed out the weak jawlines, bug eyes, and narrow shoulders.

IDK if the theory is right... everyone seems to hate it, so I assume that I must be missing something obvious.
 
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Edmund_Kemper said:
Humanity is bluepilled they don’t know it
I’ve always known women were better looking than men, I just didn’t know how much women cared about men’s looks. Growing up you were always taught it’s the woman’s job to look pretty, it’s the mans job to make the money, have a sense of humor, be the protector etc.
 
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Something about makeup, skincare, dyeing hair.
 
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worthlessloser26 said:
I’ve always known women were better looking than men, I just didn’t know how much women cared about men’s looks. Growing up you were always taught it’s the woman’s job to look pretty, it’s the mans job to make the money, have a sense of humor, be the protector etc.
They rather study and work for decades only not to settle with an unattractive betabuxxer.
 
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Pixycel said:
no matter how ugly a women is that men will still fuck them.(juggernaut law)

So women getting more attractive doesn't mean much when most men will fuck anything with a pulse.
 
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CrackingYs said:
These studies really need to be done after removing all the makeup, fake hair, fake eyelashes, fake eyebrows, botox, and then buzz their heads. Then let's line the women up and take photographs to use for their mugshot Tinder profiles.

Then at least it would be a more fair game.
Why? Makeup and what-not are reality so accounting for them is important.
 
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CrackingYs said:
These studies really need to be done after removing all the makeup, fake hair, fake eyelashes, fake eyebrows, botox, and then buzz their heads. Then let's line the women up and take photographs to use for their mugshot Tinder profiles.

Then at least it would be a more fair game.

This
You haven't been truly blackpilled until you've seen what "attractive" women look like without cosmetics, push-up stuffed bras, specially engineered clothing, etc.
There is a reason that women weren't really all that sacred for much of human history and in a lot of cases the men would prefer to fuck one another jfl.
 
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Why? Makeup and what-not are reality so accounting for them is important.
No foid has the right to call themselves pretty if they look like shit without makeup. Allowing foids the right to masquerade around like clowns and shove it our faces is completely stupid.
 
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CrackingYs said:
No foid has the right to call themselves pretty if they look like shit without makeup. Allowing foids the right to masquerade around like clowns and shove it our faces is completely stupid.
This isn't some fucking battle of glory. OP's study is knowledge concerning the reality we live in. Makeup is part of that reality so ignorning it would be nonsensical.
 
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This isn't some fucking battle of glory. OP's study is knowledge concerning the reality we live in. Makeup is part of that reality so ignorning it would be nonsensical.

But it said

Women are more physically attractive than men.​


Thats just bullshit, it's all because of makeup.
 
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CrackingYs said:
But it said


Thats just bullshit, it's all because of makeup.
Fair enough, you have a point there but it's still just semantics.
 
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Edmund_Kemper said:
The other was that the most attractive parents were 26% less likely to have sons. Kanazawa said: "Physical attractiveness is a highly heritable trait, which disproportionately increases the reproductive success of daughters much more than that of sons. "If more attractive parents have more daughters and if physical attractiveness is heritable, it logically follows that women over many generations gradually become more physically attractive on average than men.
This is cope. Attractiveness doesn't matter for women, any woman no matter how ugly can get married and reproduce. On the other hand attractiveness matters a lot for men: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis

The sexy son hypothesis in evolutionary biology and sexual selection, proposed by Patrick J. Weatherhead and Raleigh J. Robertson of Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario in 1979,[1] states that a female's ideal mate choice among potential mates is one whose genes will produce male with the best chance of reproductive success. This implies that other benefits the father can offer the mother or offspring are less relevant than they may appear, including his capacity as a parental caregiver, territory and any nuptial gifts.

In a society where males compete with each other to be chosen as he-men by females, one of the best things a mother can do for her genes is to make a son who will turn out in his turn to be an attractive he-man. If she can ensure that her son is one of the fortunate few males who wins most of the copulations in the society when he grows up, she will have an enormous number of grandchildren. The result of this is that one of the most desirable qualities a male can have in the eyes of a female is, quite simply, sexual attractiveness itself.[5]

Producing attractive daughters does NOT ensure a higher number of offspring, but producing attractive sons does. So whatever causes attractive people to have more daughters than sons is clearly maladaptive and dysgenic.
 
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BaffleTrot said:
I've been playing with this theory for a while. Patriarchal values in society mean that men are valued for the work they can do, while women sit at home and do nothing of importance. So the only way to really differentiate between women is by the looks. The more attractive women have more babies, while the hardest working men pair their sons with them. Evolutionary pressure causes women to become more and more attractive over thousands of years, while men stay at the same level of attractiveness because there's no pressure there whatsoever.

Suddenly, the sexual revolution in the 60's happens. Now that we're a couple generations away and foids are no longer being taught to be obedient housewives, they're starting to revert back to their more primal selves where they care about attractiveness more than socially constructed values like a man's ability to provide. Suddenly 80% of men are out of place in the dating market because they don't have the benefit of thousands of years of evolutionary pressure to weed out the weak jawlines, bug eyes, and narrow shoulders.

IDK if the theory is right... everyone seems to hate it, so I assume that I must be missing something obvious.
Well there are studies showing that around 20% of males were able to pass on their genes for a long time in the past (the primal times). People assume that percentage of gene passing would happen even if men had the same evolutionary pressure to look good and do shit at the same time, thanks to information we have at hand right now. The bad point is that we can not know it for certain because there are too many variables for your theory to be tested in a controlled manner that doesn't take thousands of years.

People can hate it for two reasons:
1. It tells them that they are nothing more than an instinct driven animal, not a human.
2. This theory challenges the basic 80/20 rule and distracts people from understanding it.

You can try to refine it further, but your theory and its ideas are not tested to see if they are correct.
 
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So If i'm reading this correctly:
Women have a higher rating of women, and men have a higher rating of men (compared to their counterparts).
So, own sex bias or something?
 
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Chopin said:
So If i'm reading this correctly:
Women have a higher rating of women, and men have a higher rating of men (compared to their counterparts).
So, own sex bias or something?
No. Men rate men higher than women rate men but men still rate women higher
 
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No. Men rate men higher than women rate men but men still rate women higher
Yeah I got that, but both sexes go "easier" on their own.
It's like how women call their fat female friends "attractive" and "funny".
 
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Chopin said:
Yeah I got that, but both sexes go "easier" on their own.
It's like how women call their fat female friends "attractive" and "funny".
No, men go easier on women
 
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No, men go easier on women
Still not what I said.
I said that men tend to give men higher scores than women do. I also said that women give women higher scores than men do.
 
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Chopin @Chopin that’s cuz many women don’t find many men attractive and have high physical standards so even men will find men more handsome. Men still find women much more attractive than men and women also find women much more attractive than men. It’s not in group bias.
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Still not what I said.
I said that men tend to give men higher scores than women do. I also said that women give women higher scores than men do.
Chopin said:
Still not what I said.
I said that men tend to give men higher scores than women do. I also said that women give women higher scores than men do.
Chopin said:
Still not what I said.
I said that men tend to give men higher scores than women do. I also said that women give women higher scores than men do.
 
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What is the point of that study if the holes were allowed to use make-up plastics and what not?
It is like allowing someone to use photoshop or something then. The study is invalid.
 
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but low iq foid study
 
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Foids are less developed and less esthetic than men. It's simply sexual maturation that makes men look more mature hence more adult like and less pleasurable to the sight while sexual immaturity covers the shitty frame most foids have. If you equalize the sexual maturation XY humans will mog into oblivion XX humans 90% of the time.

This is why men with androgen insensitivity are much better foids than foids themselves. There was an article written by a foid who complained and bitched about women/models with androgen insensitivity (so genetically men) brutally mogging XX/genetically female models because of fully grown male skeleton+female body.

However when foids undergo a similiar sexual maturation to that of a man (because of weird syndromes) they lose their neotenous covering and you can start seeing their shitty frame for what it really is. They usually reveal their hobbit looking body lol. Their real look.

You can try this somehow with faceapp by using gender filters and seeing if a couole is really looksmatched. Usually it shows how shitty the foid looks compared to her bf.
 
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Foids are less developed and less esthetic than men. It's simply sexual maturation that makes men look more mature hence more adult like and less pleasurable to the sight while sexual immaturity covers the shitty frame most foids have. If you equalize the sexual maturation XY humans will mog into oblivion XX humans 90% of the time.

This is why men with androgen insensitivity are much better foids than foids themselves. There was an article written by a foid who complained and bitched about women/models with androgen insensitivity (so genetically men) brutally mogging XX/genetically female models because of fully grown male skeleton+female body.

However when foids undergo a similiar sexual maturation to that of a man (because of weird syndromes) they lose their neotenous covering and you can start seeing their shitty frame for what it really is. They usually reveal their hobbit looking body lol. Their real look.

You can try this somehow with faceapp by using gender filters and seeing if a couole is really looksmatched. Usually it shows how shitty the foid looks compared to her bf.
When wymin age or.after having a baby their looks fade away on most cases ,men always remain with His looks .I think foids are atracted to foids and everybody are attracted to them Is because they have inherent value and men are disposable. What do you think
 
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Losing-twenties said:
When wymin age or.after having a baby their looks fade away on most cases ,men always remain with His looks .I think foids are atracted to foids and everybody are attracted to them Is because they have inherent value and men are disposable. What do you think
I agree. What i say is foids are considered to be more beautiful because of lower sexual maturation not because they actually have a better frame
 
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Edmund_Kemper said:
It's true: women are more conventionally attractive than men. Stacies are far more common than chads.


According to Discover:


The study finds that attractive parents are more likely to have daughters and less likely to have sons. And attractive parents are more likely to give birth to children who grow up into attractive adults. This means that women are getting hotter and they are hotter than men. The study found people rated women as more physically attractive than men.

in this study, they found this:

According to the Psychology Today article:

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In a study called "The effect of aging on facial attractiveness", women rated women's faces are more attractive than men's faces. Men also rated men's faces as more attractive than how women rated men's faces. Women also rated older women and middle aged women's faces more attractive than men did (although a slight difference for older women which was on average 39 years old).
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Additionally, research has shown that not many woman are totally straight. Gay women are usually mostly aroused by their own gender compared to only a minority here and there of straight women:





And also women are more likely to identify as bisexual.
There was an earlier study that I remember reading that argued that having girls is genetically "safer" for uglier men. Since girls are much more likely to breed than boys, ugly men benefit from daughters. But the problem is that girls are a bottleneck, because they can only have so many children. For the truly attractive the male is the best bet, because he can potentially have hundreds of progeny. High risk high reward. You present a convincing argument otherwise however. Would like to see if I can find that study.
 
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