Serious Social standing is relative – one should exploit this as much as possible

[thePhantom]

Inceldom is at its core an problem of low social status and the loneliness and lack of self-esteem that comes with it. Validation from females in general and sex in particular is the best litmus-test for this, but really it's a wider issue. I have come to realize that everything I seek to achieve – money, education, a girlfriend – boils down to this question of social standing. Now, a key property of social standing is that it is relative. A white normie may be Chad in rural Cambodia but incel in New York. This is the old locationpill of inceldom. But similar principles hold for all aspects of status; the average Joe will be an educated person in the US Rust Belt, but a dimwit in Cambridge.

Despite this elementary truth, people in general strive to achieve happiness by improving their own characteristics, which are largely predetermined by genetics and similar factors, instead of changing their environment. The latter is definitely easier and more effective. On some level, the LDAR-maxers have understood this well, and have withdrawn from the destructive environment. However, they have failed to find a proper replacement – what I'm advocating is building something new, someplace else. If you are short, move somewhere where people are shorter; if you are are a framecel, don't go gymcelling much but rather try out some other hobby where you may excel, and so on.

This may take you to places and contexts widely considered low-status, but this doesn't matter as long as you don't get exposed to outsiders and their condescension. In extreme cases, this may take you all the way to some old house in the middle of woodland nowhere, where your only neighbors are elderly simpletons, you work your own farmstead, and your wife at best mail-ordered from some third-world country, but so be it. When people are no longer giving you looks of disgust and judging your performance in every area of life as lacking, you may finally start appreciating everyday aspects of life the way you did as a child, your heart may thaw, and happiness will be within reach.

 

[janoycresva]

Yes, rise to the top of a social group where you may fit in. Most of us will never be able to fit in to the Chad/Stacy social groups but say you're a gymcel who likes to play video games. You can attempt to make your way to the top of a social group where a lot of the members play video games by being the biggest/most jacked one and helping out the other members in the gym.

 

[Mickeyonacid]

Amazing thread. Location and social status may cure inceldom for some.
Should be stickied but for some reason the staff doesn't do that any more

 

[Deleted member 12355]

very vague and general advice. I wouldn't know where to begin in order to try following it. I suppose picking up new hobbies is one possible avenue, but how does one accomplish that? it's much easier said than done. Everything I'm interested in always turn out to be complete sausage fests. And even if I did find a hobby females like in equal porportions to males, my aspergers wouldn't be lessened by it one bit. I'd still find it extremely difficult to socialize with at least 95% of people (make that 99% of foids), and most importantly, my genetics wouldn't be any less defective

 

[Angry_runt]

If you're in your 20s and you never had a girlfriend, no amount of social status will create genuine attraction from a foid. Some may be attracted to your status, but that's basically prostitution and their attraction to you as a man will be as real as a prostitute's attraction to her client, ie non existent.

Like whitecel in Cambodia, he may have status to get a girl there, but how is that different than prostitution? It's not, that Cambodian girl will not be attracted to St.BlackOps2cel (or Mark Zuckerberg for that matter) even if she does have sex or seek a relationship with him.

 

[Henry de Montherlant]

try out some other hobby where you may excel

I have hobbies, but they are social killers. It's over.

 

[thePhantom]

very vague and general advice. I wouldn't know where to begin in order to try following it. I suppose picking up new hobbies is one possible avenue, but how does one accomplish that? it's much easier said than done. Everything I'm interested in always turn out to be complete sausage fests. And even if I did find a hobby females like in equal porportions to males, my aspergers wouldn't be lessened by it one bit. I'd still find it extremely difficult to socialize with at least 95% of people (make that 99% of foids), and most importantly, my genetics wouldn't be any less defective

True, but no advice can simultaneously fit many people at once and be very concrete. The general idea is to "seek a lower-status environment instead of a higher-status one", but you'll need to do some introspection in order to find out what this means for you. Some clues may come from times where you have felt capable and appreciated, however petty the context may seem. For me, I have realized that I've sought out smarter and smarter people, until I've found myself in contexts where I'm IQ-mogged at a regular basis, which is crazy given that I'm in the top 0.5 %. When I'm socializing with less intelligent people, I'll still be autistic, but it won't be as obvious to them since my weirdness can then be chalked up to smarts. Another concrete, accessible, and fairly general option is doing charity work for people who have even shittier lives than you (hobos maybe). They will appreciate you, and you will lifemog them.

If you're in your 20s and you never had a girlfriend, no amount of social status will create genuine attraction from a foid. Some may be attracted to your status, but that's basically prostitution and their attraction to you as a man will be as real as a prostitute's attraction to her client, ie non existent.

Like whitecel in Cambodia, he may have status to get a girl there, but how is that different than prostitution? It's not, that Cambodian girl will not be attracted to St.BlackOps2cel (or Mark Zuckerberg for that matter) even if she does have sex or seek a relationship with him.

I'm not so sure of that. While hypergamy is in women's genes, how that manifests itself will be context-dependent. History has proven that status is not universally computed by the same algorithm. If one aims for a young virgin girl who has never seen a western Chad IRL, it may work. And if not, MGTOW in an otherwise fulfilling setting will be more wholesome cope than LDAR.

Amazing thread. Location and social status may cure inceldom for some.
Should be stickied but for some reason the staff doesn't do that any more

 

[Looksredpilled]

Very good thread, Its true.

Your mood/serotonine/dopamine is due to your social standing in whichever hierarchy youre a part of. Incels have withdrawn completely, cause they are so low on the totem pole, but they are STILL in that hierarchy, they are just hiding in their basement.

This kills their serotonine, making them depressed, low mood, no energy, and makes them even more hateful and negative.


My friend, who is a 4/10 and got completely ignored in the west, decided to just fucking move to SEA. When he got there, the matches on tinder started fucking flowing in the hundreds, he went on 10 days in 14 days, banged all 10 of them, hot girls too, slim ones.

Now he dates 5 girls at the same time, his mood is way higher, his motivation levels are thru the roof and he is now finally able to focus on his career, whereas before he didnt have energy nor the motivation for it, and his main focus of his mind was to get a fucking girlfriend.


CHANGE LOCATION to where you have better status, that will make more for you than any fucking anti depressant ever will.

I'm not so sure of that. While hypergamy is in women's genes, how that manifests itself will be context-dependent. History has proven that status is not universally computed by the same algorithm. If one aims for a young virgin girl who has never seen a western Chad IRL, it may work. And if not, MGTOW in an otherwise fulfilling setting will be more wholesome cope than LDAR.

Exactly. This is what many guys on here just dont understand. A females genuine attraction for you is completely relative, its NOT OBJECTIVE. She is programmed to get attracted to whichever male got pretty high status within her enviroment, if u have status there, she will find u attractive and the "feelings of love and passion" will be 100% real, as the chemicals are relased in her brain.