He tells me all the good users left after he was banned for spamming up the site and that all of you that remain are animal abusing psychos. 
Serious Should we ban all animal gore as mentally lost cel wants done?
suicidefuel for @Med Amine
Censorship doesn't end animal cruelty.
it's over
it's over
absofuckinglutely; only foid gore should be allowed
Ban everyone who voted no
Animals are foodHe tells me all the good users left after he was banned for spamming up the site and that all of you that remain are animal abusing psychos.
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False, no good user liked him.
False.and that all of you that remain are animal abusing psychos.
Also stop making biased polls for fucks sake. I don't like animal cruelty posts and I don't mind if they get banned. Now what am I supposed to vote for given your options?
as subversive elements begin to use this site for their sick purposes, they should be banned.
Bro these vote options got me dead.He tells me all the good users left after he was banned for spamming up the site and that all of you that remain are animal abusing psychos.
Voted
i changed my mind, i am gonna vote yes tbh
i don't wanna look like a bad guy even tho i don't wanna agree with anything mentally found fag says 2
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Ok then also ban everyone that isn't vegan since they are actually abusing animals and not just watching videos of animals being abused.
Isnt that nigga nuked and banned we letting fakecels deciding our fate now?
Nigga why do we keep banning shit we aren't reddit.
Are you vegan?
JFL at answer 2, I'd vote for it even if I didn't agree
Yes
animals are innocent unlike humans who are evil, putrid creatures.
I’d save a random dog’s life over 1 billion humans, heck I’d save a dog’s life even if it came at the cost of the life of every human in the world. I’d let the human species go extinct to save an innocent animal, fuck humans, they all desERve to die
animals are innocent unlike humans who are evil, putrid creatures.
I’d save a random dog’s life over 1 billion humans, heck I’d save a dog’s life even if it came at the cost of the life of every human in the world. I’d let the human species go extinct to save an innocent animal, fuck humans, they all desERve to die
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@Fat Link Please extend this to gore of all kind, not just animal abuse videos. I don't see how posting gratuitous gore or violence here for its own sake - animal or otherwise - accomplishes anything, tbhngl. All it does it satisfy a morbid curiosity, which can easily be satisfied with an internet search. Anything other than that makes it psychopathic, because if you like to watch that kind of degeneracy and filth, then it means that you find it pleasurable and entertaining. The alternative possibility is that you're a troll looking for reactions. All possibilities don't need it here.
"But muh free expression." This isn't a case of free expression being stifled. It's akin to not being lewd in public. It's naturally disgusting and most people don't want to see it. And exactly what the fuck is it that's being expressed by a gruesome killing or torture video? The savagery of humanity? Write a fucking essay about it then, if you're trying to send a deep message about something like that, not post violence porn, you fucking low IQ coons.
"But muh free expression." This isn't a case of free expression being stifled. It's akin to not being lewd in public. It's naturally disgusting and most people don't want to see it. And exactly what the fuck is it that's being expressed by a gruesome killing or torture video? The savagery of humanity? Write a fucking essay about it then, if you're trying to send a deep message about something like that, not post violence porn, you fucking low IQ coons.
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Yes, of course. In fact ban those who voted no.
Animals are innocent and don't treat us base on hypergamy and other bullshit social conventions made to benefit foids.
Animals are innocent and don't treat us base on hypergamy and other bullshit social conventions made to benefit foids.
Based.
Then don't click threads tagged NSFW? I guess it's like being lewd in public but don't complain about it when you walk into a stripclub and see naked women.
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You can kill an animal for food without torturing or abusing it. There are ways of killing it to minimize the suffering experienced. The commission of suffering, allowing of it, and the apathy towards it are much more abhorrent and morally evil than the killing. And if you ask a deontologist, the reason why you're doing the killing greatly matters. Killing because you don't like it vs killing because you need to eat are very different.
Further, you can be a meat eater and be opposed to the cruel farming conditions and practices. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
Put it in spoilers mayb?
I hate it tbh.
There is no excuse in the west not to go vegan. Proposing you HAVE to eat meat when you are in the west is preposterous.
You can kill an animal without torturing and abusing it but that's not what happens anywhere in the world right now. Many farms get busted because they totally neglect regulation and many are still operational. Even the farms that follow regulations inflict a great deal of physical and psychological suffering upon these animals. You cannot create a non torturous environment when you cultivate meat on such a massive scale as we do now.
And all this is assuming that there is such a thing as "being humanely killed"
I guess it's better that the rabbit wasn't tortured to death but is it really that much of a difference of shooting it in the back of the head? It's still dead. You killed it.
If you live in the west and eat meat and still oppose farming conditions while you're eating a big mac you're a hypocrite plain and simple.
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That would be much better lmao even fucking reddit allows this kind of stuff why should we ban it.
if you are fine with animal cruelty you don't deserve a relationship
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That's a fair point, and it's one reason why we have the NSFW tag.
But by that exact same rationale, why can't somebody just post gay porn (or cheese pizza) and put the NSFW tag? Because we don't want it here. Why don't we want it here? Because we're not faggots, and and it's against the rules. OK, but why is it against the rules? Because faggots can't be incels, so they don't belong here, and because faggots have a history of trying to groom young, vulnerable straight males, especially in incel spaces.
You keep digging and you'll get to the reasons why we have rules against some forms of expression and not against others. Instead of discussing such reasons, people just post comments like these without much thought behind them:
Some comments have some thought put behind them:
The first post gives a good reason. We've had many cases of it ("it" being attempts at subversion) in the past with other things. The second post makes a claim about the possibility of moral culpability of animals, specifically that animals can't be evil - great start, but it doesn't really go anywhere with it and explore further.
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I only have been here for close to a year but still i never found a lot of people posting animal gore in my time here + my time lurking. I remember a case of a user called lycan that killed a lizard and posted it but I don't really see a good case for banning it on the grounds of it being subversive. Does it make people want to kill animals? Is there an epidemic of users spamming it? I don't see the use of banning it. Even reddit allows people to post gore like that why should we ban it? I don't see any reason that goes further than the emotional.
But if I see a valid point that posting such content is detrimental for the platform I'd definitely change my vote. I just don't really see any rational reasoning behind the proposition.
Animals are an incels only friend. They won’t bully and shun you for your looks or your low iq.
We should ban all pro-pedophilia discussion next.
We should ban all pro-pedophilia discussion next.
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Let me stop you right there.
Being vegan is not a natural diet for humans. We're omnivores and have evolved to eat meat. Your body produces enzymes intended to break down animal protein. You can't survive out in the world on a vegan diet. You'll waste away and die. Babies on a vegan diet will grow up malnourished, smaller and with less IQ. It's arguably child abuse to raise your kid on the vegan diet, because you're intentionally harming their (physical and cognitive) development.
Veganism is a first world privilege, much like being in a position to be able to complain about your pronouns. It's hippies and hipsters (not the same, I know) doing their thing.
My argument doesn't depend on asshole corporate farmers and their quest for profits to not be assholes.
Why do people always do this kind of dumb shit in any discussion and bring up something not addressing the argument itself? It's like when people criticize (the religion of) Christianity, because some priests are gay pedophiles, or criticize Islam because some sand niggers blow themselves up.
There is, you fucking dumbass. You've never heard of the expression "mercy killing"? It's entirely based on the experience of suffering and minimizing it. It's why capital punishment tends to use something like the lethal injection after sedating you unconscious, instead of flaying you alive and dismembering you piece by piece and using heavy doses of amphetamines to keep you conscious and fully experiencing every painful moment when the natural tendency is for your brain to shut down and black out.
See above.
Not even close. Like I said, it's a privilege and not a natural diet. Even in the West vegan options tend to be more expensive. You see this with the "organic" branding. Everything gets corporatized, even veganism. The market treats it like a diet fad and charges premiums for catering to the niche consumer demographic.
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The subversion comes from bad actors trying to paint a particular image of us. Before anyone copes by saying we're already at the bottom and shouldn't care what normie say about us, there's more to it than that and it happens regardless of whether you care or not.
I generally agree that you shouldn't care what people think, especially if people already think ill of you. But you should fight back against people who actively try to worsen your image, because they're actively working against you, not passively holding a negative opinion. It's the principle of fighting back against intentionally trying to harm you.
Humans don’t have free will, neither do animals. Although humans can’t be blamed for their actions (which they have no control of just like animals), the reason for most of the pain/suffering in this world is due to humans, so I still hate them (and yes, even my hate towards them is involuntary).
I can provide studies that say otherwise it's generally well established that you can live a perfectly normal life on a vegan diet I used to argue against it too because it sounds right from intuition but it's just not true to say it has detrimental health effects many of studies that say this are faulty.
Also I don't think appealing to nature (fallacy) is the best thing to do here. We are humans. We change nature. The food you eat on a daily basis isn't natural. The way we are communicating right now isn't natural.
That's true I was conflating it with something else that I was thinking about I am sorry.
Some civility please
Yes it minimizes suffering indeed and I never denied that. I was asking you if the act of killing itself can ever be humane.
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Banning human stuff makes more sense. Why should animals take priority over humans?
I think a study was done on this and it actually was disproven that vegan diets are generally more expensive than omnivorous diets. I am not sure tho might have to check that one again
Because most people here argue from a place of emotion.
Oof, I have a feeling the slippery slope this kind of thinking would create would be extremely destructive.
Baseeeed!
does using an avi like mine count as pedophilia?
i am not really sexualizing the girl, there's a difference between seeing something as cute and and wanting to fuck it
just like considering male babies to be cute.
Didn’t you say it’s because you want a daughter?
yes i did
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I'm sure you can, but my point of contention was against the claim that "there's no excuse not to go vegan in the West."
I'm not talking about full grown adults who are already developed. I'm talking about foods you're evolved to eat and grow on. With enough money you can do a lot and can even pull a Bryan Johnson to slow down your aging.
Reminder that this particular argument against veganism is not specifically about eating meat, as the vegetarian diet allows for eggs and milk, which does allow for healthy development, but about the consumption of any kind of animal protein, the vast majority of which is meat. The arguments for veganism can generally be extended to vegetarianism as well.
The real fallacy here is pretending that we're outside of nature and having the hubris to think we that we change nature (influence, yes, but not change). And yes, a lot of crap we eat daily isn't natural, which is why we've developed so many health and weight problems over the decades in the "civilized world." We're not meant to eat processed garbage loaded with chemicals that make us sick.
I'm sorry for the outburst, but when you hear/read someone say something so patently absurd when you shouldn't expect to them to it can easily make you (me) agitated.
The answer is yes, because "humane" refers to having the properties of mercy and compassion, which directly corresponds to the minimization of suffering. Your question isn't asking if killing itself can ever be "moral." That's a completely different question, since (abstractly) properties are not actions and vice versa, though actions always have properties.
Yikes! Big oof!
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