Discussion Should we abandon victim culture

[Murder Mario]

Every group in society believes they are victims. It ranges from women believing they are being oppressed, minorities believing they are victims of racism, jews believing they are victims of anti antisemitism, whites believing they are subject to being replaced by the jews, poor people believing they are victims of rich people. Inceldom is just an expansion of that. If you believe you are a victim then you are not unique compared to the rest of society as everyone believes they are.

In a way inceldom has essentially become about virtue signalling about how fucked up your situation and life is. Its basically turned us into SJW's instead of discussing our plight in a constructive manner.

Yes inceldom is among the worse than most of the things "victims" in society have to put up with but we shouldn't focus on the victim aspect as we are just the same as normies.

Instead we should think of things in a rational and calm manner and focus on solving or coping with said issues.

 

[CRASH THE CUCK]

yes x 1000000

 

[Murder Mario]

yes x 1000000

Do you think we have become too SJW

 

[lifefuel]

Tantamount to ignoring parasites that are leeching on you.

Jews are the most victim mindset people on earth and yet are the most powerful per capita. Whining is literally a part of their culture (kvetching).

It's all about who has the power and genetic privilege to force society to take them seriously.

Also the reason the incels get the attention of the world is not by doing what CNN and lamestream cucks do and discuss things "constructively" aka in as lukewarm and cucked a manner as possible so as to not "rock the boat".

 

[parzurnacs]

I never like victimism here tbh. The essence of life is domination and if you lose bad luck

Victimism is for moralfags who want "social justice" to be delivered

 

[CRASH THE CUCK]

Do you think we have become too SJW

wdym mean ''we'' bitch

 

[Murder Mario]

Tantamount to ignoring parasites that are leeching on you.

Jews are the most victim mindset people on earth and yet are the most powerful per capita. Whining is literally a part of their culture (kvetching).

It's all about who has the power and genetic privilege to force society to take them seriously.

Also the reason the incels get the attention of the world is not by doing what CNN and lamestream cucks do and discuss things "constructively" aka in as lukewarm and cucked a manner as possible.

We shouldn't care about what the world thinks as they are not willing to help us. People have their own ingroups to worry about before us.

I never like victimism here tbh. The essence of life is domination and if you lose bad luck

Victimism is for moralfags who want "social justice" to be delivered

Pretty much. Im sick of all the moralfagging and victimization too. Its making me want to bang my head against a wall. Its ok to complain sometimes but doing it every day just seems retarded and unproductive.

wdym mean ''we'' bitch

Incels

 

[AnilBashir]

The only other solution would be some kind of revolution, and actually fighting back

 

[Murder Mario]

The only other solution would be some kind of revolution, and actually fighting back

Maybe if some higher up started it and used us as cannon fodder it could work. Underprivileged people have never been revolutionaries unless controlled by power people. Even William Wallace was a nobleman.

 

[DayOfTheRodger]

No, we should get reparations

 

[lifefuel]

The only other solution would be some kind of revolution, and actually fighting back

This is kind of what I'm getting at. There's no point abandoning so-called victim mindset unless you're going to replace it with something that will get better and more immediate results. It's a step back. There's nothing wrong with pointing out unfairness. Doesn't make you a "victim" just means you're not a cuck who's going to roll over and accept it.

Asians are probably one of the groups that complains the least and simply bend over and accept their lot in life and look at them. I don't think that's something to emulate.

 

[AnilBashir]

Maybe if some higher up started it and used us as cannon fodder it could work. Underprivileged people have never been revolutionaries unless controlled by power people. Even William Wallace was a nobleman.

I'm not saying it's actually going to happen. My point is more what is left for incels between the poles of A - complaining about our position, to B - fighting back and changing it. I don't know what else incel forums can offer apart from places to vent our frustrations, or places to organize a revolt. There seems to be no other purpose. Share our favorite copes? Favorite vidya, food, hobbies? Take your pick, every cope only lasts so long. I get you find the complaining annoying but if we can't fight back, there seems no other reason for the forum to even exist, if not to complain

 

[frmentalcel]

Do you think we have become too SJW

no

 

[AnilBashir]

This is kind of what I'm getting at. There's no point abandoning so-called victim mindset unless you're going to replace it with something that will get better and more immediate results. It's a step back. There's nothing wrong with pointing out unfairness. Doesn't make you a "victim" just means you're not a cuck who's going to roll over and accept it.

Asians are probably one of the groups that complains the least and simply bend over and accept their lot in life and look at them. I don't think that's something to emulate.

Yes, and until incels actually do form some kind of "movement" (like the media wrongly imagines we already are) nothing can ever change

 

[lifefuel]

It's also tragedy of the commons kind of.

A - Everyone agrees to stop complaining--is this an ideal society to live in when clearly so many people are flagrantly disadvantaged compared to others?

B - Some people stop, while others continue to demand their just due and enjoy certain successes in this regard, thereby expanding the gap of unfairness even more.

C - Everyone continues to demand what they feel entitled to and we see how it goes.

 

[Med Anime]

probably no, i don't think there's anything wrong with loser mentality. i never done anything wrong anyway

 

[Sprite]

Victimhood and direct action aren't mutually exclusive

If inkwells want to complain about their situation, I don't get what the problem is

 

[Antifem Lord]

The only other solution would be some kind of revolution, and actually fighting back

 

[willystroker]

Yes, I'm sick of complaining about everything. That's really what 90% of this forum is, complaining about how shitty our lives are, complaining about how we got the short end of the stick, about how society hates/ignores us. At first it felt good to vent but now I'm tired of it. It doesn't accomplish anything since soyciety isn't listening to us, they just continue to vilify us more. We either need to fight back and claim something for ourselves or just retreat into obscurity and cope until we die, I think.

 

[Antifem Lord]

We are victims the only thing is we shouldn’t look for sympathy from normies or foids they will never care or understand our problems

 

[autisticmanchild]

Nobody is gonna do shit though. Incel revolution will never happen. Most cels are too low iq to do any business ideas that make money so there's not much to do.

 

[IceStorm]

Do you think we have become too SJW

Yes

 

[IceStorm]

I agree with you

 

[FakeFakecel]

Absolutely not. Our ''victim culture'' is legitimate and justified.