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Should people unwilling to work be paid?

Should people unwilling to work be paid?


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No,no one owes you anything.
 
Wouldn't it be communism if so?
 
based and nazbol pilled
I prefer communism to captialism tbh but both are flawed.

Embrace a third position :feelzez:
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I know many females who get upwards of 5 to 10 thousands of dollars a year just for being a slut and having kids. think they spend that money wisely? fuck no. it is all gone within the first week

and here i am owing taxes or getting a measely 3-500 because i work and am male. hate the system we currently have as all the fucking money goes to shitty welfare moms and people faking disability
 
no one's said anything about killing anyone.
It's a slippery slope inherent to fascism. First, you divest subhumans of their already meager ability to be full citizens (in this case, by depriving them of their right to reproduction); and then you just kill them, because why not? They're suffering so you might as well put them out of their misery! Never mind that the cause of this misery is premeditated in the first place...

The issue isn't the existence of inceldom itself, the issue is that some people that should be reproducing aren't able to, or must accept unreasonable conditions in order to MAYBE have the chance of reproducing under today's sexual market place whose absolute most valuable currency is in the form of looks

I understand that your scientifically objective standards of who's worthy to reproduce would differ from the prejudicial standards of a foid, in that it wouldn't place as much of a premium on looks, but this is hardly desirable from my perspective as a mentalcel. Unlike you, I am not willing to eugenically cuckold myself for the sake of society -- an NT society and what it considers to be the preeminent importance of social intelligence.
 
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Yes, I'd say so.
 
It's a slippery slope inherent to fascism. First, you divest subhumans of their already meager ability to be full citizens (in this case, by depriving them of their right to reproduction); and then you just kill them, because why not? They're suffering so you might as well put them out of their misery! Never mind that the cause of this is premeditated in the first place...



I understand that your scientifically objective standards of who's worthy to reproduce would differ from the prejudicial standards of a foid, in that it wouldn't place as much of a premium on looks, but this is hardly desirable from my perspective as a mentalcel. Unlike you, I am not willing to eugenically cuckold myself for the sake of society -- an NT society and what it considers to be the preeminent importance of social intelligence.
cope, there have been loads of societies that have forcefully sterilized a certain portion of its population without any sort of euthanasia being involved. Euthanasia is not a doctrine intrinsic to eugenics

It's not even about myself, it's what will most effectively serve the race, and the collective consciousness of mankind as a whole. You call it cuckoldry, I call it the most moral avenue someone who's of bad genetic stock can pursue. Also, I don't believe autism is necessarily a condition that should be weeded out. If anything my ideal society would select for, perhaps not autism, but a high intelligence, low empathy sort of outlook on life which is prominent among a lot of people with aspergers
 
cope, there have been loads of societies that have forcefully sterilized a certain portion of its population without any sort of euthanasia being involved. Euthanasia is not a doctrine intrinsic to eugenics

I'll give you my genitalia when it's torn out of my cold, dead hands, fascist.

It's not even about myself, it's what will most effectively serve the race, and the collective consciousness of mankind as a whole. You call it cuckoldry, I call it the most moral avenue someone who's of bad genetic stock can pursue.

I am a subhuman supremacist, who wants the underclasses to rule. You want Chad to rule but by different means. That is cuckoldry, boyo.

I once believed liked you, until I realized that I might as well be a liberal feminist with how I'm advocating for my own oppression. Indeed, at least liberalism is less overtly oppressive than fascism and tries to gaslight us into believing we're not oppressed; fascism, on the other hand, would blatantly degrade us, if not kill us entirely.

I don't care about the future of a society I have no biological stake in. You are being effectively exiled from your race by not being allowed to reproduce in it; the level of cope required to think that you are fulfilling your biological imperative by acquiescing to being cuckolded should not be possible.

Also, I don't believe autism is necessarily a condition that should be weeded out. If anything my ideal society would select for, perhaps not autism, but a high intelligence, low empathy sort of outlook on life which is prominent among a lot of people with aspergers

I admit that you are a fairly reasonable for a fascist, but in practice fascist Chad would mog you and take control over policy, and just kill all non-NT people.
 
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I'll give you my genitalia when it's torn out of my cold, dead hands, fascist.



I am a subhuman supremacist, who wants the underclasses to rule. You want Chad to rule but by different means. That is cuckoldry, boyo.

I once believed liked you, until I realized that I might as well be a liberal feminist with how I'm advocating for my own oppression. Indeed, at least liberalism is less overtly oppressive than fascism and tries to gaslight us into believing we're not oppressed; fascism, on the other hand, would blatantly degrade us, if not kill us entirely.

I don't care about the future of a society I have no biological stake in. You are being effectively exiled from your race by not being allowed to reproduce in it; the level of cope required to think that you are fulfilling your biological imperative by acquiescing to being cuckolded should not be possible.



I admit that you are a fairly reasonable for a fascist, but in practice fascist Chad would mog you and take control over policy, and just kill all non-NT people.
well, then further discussion is pointless as we vehemently disagree in our value judgements. You want destruction and deterioration, whereas I want order and flourishing.
 
I didn't ask to be brought into this world to be another cog in the system, so yeah I should be paid living wage while I ldar to compensate
 
I didn't ask to be brought into this world to be another cog in the system, so yeah I should be paid living wage while I ldar to compensate

Yeah, I agree with this. If people want to do extra work and for extra pay, good for them. Otherwise, LDARing is the best option.
 
Yes, enough to survive. Not everyone can handle the stress of the rat race. UBI would keep these people from rebellion and crime.
 
I don't care about the future of a society I have no biological stake in. You are being effectively exiled from your race by not being allowed to reproduce in it; the level of cope required to think that you are fulfilling your biological imperative by acquiescing to being cuckolded should not be possible.

I feel the same, and I believe this society should pay us to work, not necessarily in monetary terms. It should grants us a fair shot at reproduction and paternity security. Undoing feminist policies and provide pussy for the undersexed and us incels, would be a good starter payment.

I bet many subconsciously don't want to work because they know it will never net them a future where they can reproduce and be sure the child will be theirs.

Fuck this gay Earth, I will never accept to be a cuck, in any foreseeable future and timeline.
 
While my thread is basically about UBI, I agree with you it is economically infeasible if it includes all life necessities, but only because of hyper-inflation. The paying for it part is easy.

Which is why I recommend direct home transfer and vouchers instead of direct money transfer.

Also a universal basic resource provisioning (instead of income), I dont think would collapse peoples desire to work, as people would still want the money to go to movies, visit friends etc...
Even ignoring inflation, the system will not last long if people who are simply “unwilling to work” exploit the system. I’d imagine that it would be much more costly to provide food, housing, and healthcare to several million people who refuse to put anything into the system. Once you start indiscriminatly handing this stuff out, they will demand more and more, it’s a slippery slope and should be avoided both for their sake and for the people who are actually paying for all of this
 

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