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Discussion "She's just using him for his money - So? He's just using them for their beauty" - thoughts on this ageing chad's opinions

Huge cope tbh, her beauty is part who she is and it affects how he perceives her.

The relationship money has with your persona is nowhere as deep as your physical appearence has
 
redpilled cuck grifter milking his sheep for money by selling courses and "coaching" which is just the most basic "motivational" bs advice
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I get his view, as long he treats them as prostitutes it doesnt matter he pays them in lifestyle.
redpilled cuck grifter milking his sheep for money by selling courses and "coaching" which is just the most basic "motivational" bs advice
Yeah i hate rich fags preying on desperate guys to become more rich, he is a lizard.
 
Looks are inherent, and can never really go away (unless fucked by aging or injury), money is superficial and not really a part of someone's character. So he is a coping bald old retard.
 
interesting, 100% negative response so far, you all saying cope etc. he is coping retard etc.

@BlkPillPres probably would disagree with you all though tbh this seems like the kind of guy he would agree with
 
>Richard COoPEr
Not even a nanosecond
 
Looks are inherent, and can never really go away (unless fucked by aging or injury), money is superficial and not really a part of someone's character. So he is a coping bald old retard.
 
He may be right about certain things but he's a snake oil salesman..... So opinion discarded
 
interesting, 100% negative response so far, you all saying cope etc. he is coping retard etc.

@BlkPillPres probably would disagree with you all though tbh this seems like the kind of guy he would agree with
Stop using drugs

I don't agree with any of that red pilled BS

What he said at the start is true though, saying "they want him for his money" is pointless, because men just want women for sex, were all using eachother, a man should try to get to best deal possible, and dating or marriage is not a good deal for an average/below average man.
 
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Well girls want a guy who has more money because it makes him more attractive and shows high status and competence, I dont think they necessarily want the money itself. :redpill::redpill:
 
What he said at the start is true though, saying "they want him for his money" is pointless, because men just want women for sex, were all using eachother, a man should try to get to best deal
Yup I thought so. I think many here don't understand/agree with this though tbh
 
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I get his view, as long he treats them as prostitutes it doesnt matter he pays them in lifestyle.

Yeah i hate rich fags preying on desperate guys to become more rich, he is a lizard.

Exactly! Those life gurus just want to make a quick buck off less informed failed normies and hopecels who haven't found the blackpill yet. Lots of those snake oil salesmen are getting exposed lately. Here's a nigger grifter who conned many into thinking he's some redpilled tyrone while he was actually betabuxxing for college whores on sugardaddy websites:



Redpills are available everywhere on free forums. Whoever tries to sell red pill advice is a scammer. The ultimate truth about the nature of the modern gynocentric society though lies beyond the redpill and is harder to swallow :blackpill:
 
Yup I thought so. I think many here don't understand/agree with this though tbh
If there's one thing I've learned from being on this forum, its the fact that most incels are ironically egotistical and are a walking contradiction.

They spend their time professing themselves to be "subhuman" while simultaneously declaring that the simple act of paying for sex is "beneath them" and they are someone worthy of "validation".

For some reason they cannot see the inherent contradiction in this line of thinking, they lack the self-awareness to see the cognitive dissonance.


The difference between incels like myself and most other incels, is that the incels who think and operate like myself have a logically sound stance.

I profess myself to be beneath most men and therefore I align my actions with that belief, and I refuse to restrict myself by conventional norms, values and morals, because one such as myself cannot afford to have another "handicap" in life.

This is why I have no shame when it comes to paying for sex, this is why I don't care about any laws or morals and have accepted nihilism as my belief system.

"I cannot afford to say "X is evil, I can't do it", because "goodness" is for the people who are above me, "goodness" is for my betters, I will not limit myself by the rules of those who stand above me, because that lowers my chances of getting anything I want in life."

I made a thread about this before, I think morality only really benefits the "winners" in life to begin with, and its designed that way on purpose:

"I cannot refuse to pay for sex for reasons of pride, because as someone beneath most men it may be my only avenue of ever experiencing sex. It makes no sense to place the restrictions of men above me on myself, and even some of these men are paying for sex, so who am I to refuse."

Etc

My actions and beliefs are perfectly aligned, whereas most incels I speak to profess themselves to be incels but at the same time puff their chests out and assert "Chad standards" of living lol. They do not seem to get how ridiculous that looks to anyone from the outside looking in.

When I speak to the average incel I can't take them seriously, because I can see that they don't take their own words seriously. Their beliefs are in conflict with eachother.


The average incel in one thread makes fun of people being killed, slaughtered, raped, etc, and in another thread talks about the Christian God, "doing the right thing" and "going to heaven".

Or the average incel that has no religious beliefs but does the same ridicule of suffering, then goes on and on about morality when it comes to other topics.

Such individuals are blinded by their own egos and worse than that they are hypocrites, and for some reason they lack the self-awareness to see that they are hypocrites.


If there's one thing I can say that I HATE about "incel culture", it's logical inconsistency.

Don't laugh at people's death and suffering, and then try to assert moral superiority in other threads like a hypocrite .

Don't call yourself "subhuman" or speak of yourself as "less than" if you are also going to be prideful when it comes to simple things that men who mog you do everyday.

Be logically consistent.

Your beliefs, rhetoric and actions must be congruent with eachother, else you are only deluding yourself.
 
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Tbh initially I had never thought "I just want a girlfriend for sex." Now that's just how I see femoids because, well, they're femoids. Has nothing to do with me. They want to be treated like objects, so it is still their issue.

This is all pointless. You don't even need to be rich for prostitutes lmao, and why bother with glorified prostitutes as they cost more time/money for the same thing anyway?

If you suddenly inherit a ton of money and start receiving attention (basically lose the incel status at that point), why bother with this trash even then? Prostitutes are a cheaper version.

His advice just seems to be about getting as much sex as possible with as many females as possible. Which boils down to "just moneymaxx bruh." So, he's right. But I don't really care for fucking a different female every week, even if I could choose how to ascend. I'm just not wired that way.
 
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@BlkPillPres I rarely read essays but I took some time to read yours :feelsEhh:

And yeh I definitely concur. The "Bu-bu-but Chad doesn't have to-" incels are MAJORLY subhuman in their way of thinking :feelshaha:
 
Money can be acquired apart from the person who earned it (which the states greatly help women to do nowadays). Beauty is intrinsic to the person.

Betabuxx moneycoping= bad cope. If the woman doesn't want you without your money you shouldn't want her when you have it.
 
Just imagine every male on earth has to participate in some kind of hunger games, fighting each other to get a girl, while she doesn't have to do anything but have a vagina. crazy concept.
 
Just imagine every male on earth has to participate in some kind of hunger games, fighting each other to get a girl, while she doesn't have to do anything but have a vagina. crazy concept.
You just imagined reality
 
If the woman doesn't want you without your money you shouldn't want her when you have it.
You can want her, you just can't want to keep her. Use her for what's she's worth and move on, don't delude yourself into thinking that any woman is special when there's more of her available for purchase, at better outlets will lower prices too lol.
Just imagine every male on earth has to participate in some kind of hunger games, fighting each other to get a girl, while she doesn't have to do anything but have a vagina. crazy concept.
This is why the only way to win is to not play and simply opt out of the game.

Don't be a participant IN the market, aim to become a buyer OF the market
 
Just imagine every male on earth has to participate in some kind of hunger games, fighting each other to get a girl, while she doesn't have to do anything but have a vagina. crazy concept.

Don't forget that while males are participating in these games and are suffering, the cameras focus in on the females so that they can talk about how oppressed they are feeling today. And making sure that everybody knows it too, including the males. And when a male is doing well, she takes a % of his credit for herself, by doing nothing, because oppression.
 

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d7xMSauLdg


Brings up the tired old Danny DeVito which is cringe tbh.

But some of his points seem decent :feelstrash:

These types are annoying.
How is it ALWAYS the individuals fault? It's somehow never a structural/societal deficiency.
Just world fallacy. Redpillers always seem to come back to it.
There's a huge difference between "No one cares about your outcome other than you. Trying and work is the only realistic way to improve your life" and "if your life is shit it's because you didn't try hard enough or work hard enough."
 
If there's one thing I've learned from being on this forum, its the fact that most incels are ironically egotistical and are a walking contradiction.

They spend their time professing themselves to be "subhuman" while simultaneously declaring that the simple act of paying for sex is "beneath them" and they are someone worthy of "validation".

For some reason they cannot see the inherent contradiction in this line of thinking, they lack the self-awareness to see the cognitive dissonance.


The difference between incels like myself and most other incels, is that the incels who think and operate like myself have a logically sound stance.

I profess myself to be beneath most men and therefore I align my actions with that belief, and I refuse to restrict myself by conventional norms, values and morals, because one such as myself cannot afford to have another "handicap" in life.

This is why I have no shame when it comes to paying for sex, this is why I don't care about any laws or morals and have accepted nihilism as my belief system.

"I cannot afford to say "X is evil, I can't do it", because "goodness" is for the people who are above me, "goodness" is for my betters, I will not limit myself by the rules of those who stand above me, because that lowers my chances of getting anything I want in life."

I made a thread about this before, I think morality only really benefits the "winners" in life to begin with, and its designed that way on purpose:

"I cannot refuse to pay for sex for reasons of pride, because as someone beneath most men it may be my only avenue of ever experiencing sex. It makes no sense to place the restrictions of men above me on myself, and even some of these men are paying for sex, so who am I to refuse."

Etc

My actions and beliefs are perfectly aligned, whereas most incels I speak to profess themselves to be incels but at the same time puff their chests out and assert "Chad standards" of living lol. They do not seem to get how ridiculous that looks to anyone from the outside looking in.

When I speak to the average incel I can't take them seriously, because I can see that they don't take their own words seriously. Their beliefs are in conflict with eachother.


The average incel in one thread makes fun of people being killed, slaughtered, raped, etc, and in another thread talks about the Christian God, "doing the right thing" and "going to heaven".

Or the average incel that has no religious beliefs but does the same ridicule of suffering, then goes on and on about morality when it comes to other topics.

Such individuals are blinded by their own egos and worse than that they are hypocrites, and for some reason they lack the self-awareness to see that they are hypocrites.


If there's one thing I can say that I HATE about "incel culture", it's logical inconsistency.

Don't laugh at people's death and suffering, and then try to assert moral superiority in other threads like a hypocrite .

Don't call yourself "subhuman" or speak of yourself as "less than" if you are also going to be prideful when it comes to simple things that men who mog you do everyday.

Be logically consistent.

Your beliefs, rhetoric and actions must be congruent with eachother, else you are only deluding yourself.
logical consistency doesnt work like that. assuming morality is a joke, which i fully agree, it doesnt mean that someone believing ( 1.foids should get what they deserve and im gonna laugh at these bitches 2. if i am in position of power and want for nothing i would help my fellow brocels instead of consuming everything) is a logically contradictory stance. its a form of moral similiar to normies in structure but different in content.

th[UWSL]e only reason you are claiming this to be hypocritical is because such line of thinking is ridiculous from the outside, but than you are already claiming you are not restricting yourself to the outside point of view so you are contradicting yourself.[/UWSL]

[UWSL]the other thing is that subhuman in the face does not mean subhuman in everything, its perfectly normal for incels to retain a semblance of pride. if an incel work hard through his talent and mog his school friend in many ways just to come back to empty room and feels defeated by chad, how do you expect him to resign himself to inferiority? he plays the rules of society for most of his life and he believes society owes him a higher standard of living. he sees himself as an equal, with deformed facial features, and he feel wronged, very much consistent.[/UWSL]

[UWSL]last, even those make fun of people dying and want to ascend to heaven is not necessarily inconsistent in logic unless viewed from a normie perspective. is islam extremists who bombed the place to go to heaven retarded? yes. are they necessarily inconsistent? no. from their angle, they kill some people, they go to heaven. not to mention making low fun of people dying really isnt a big deal for some and if at the same time he tries to prevent people from dying i would not claim him a hypocrite. a never have much of respect for ceremonial things, i dont believe doing things of no consequence like laughing on the internet is 'morally corrupt'.[/UWSL]
 
You can want her, you just can't want to keep her. Use her for what's she's worth and move on, don't delude yourself into thinking that any woman is special when there's more of her available for purchase, at better outlets will lower prices too lol.
I agree 100% with this, even as a Chad idolizing and tying yourself to 1 foid is asking for getting fucked over. She will cuck you eventually no matter who you are.
 
Does that include betabuxxing?
Betabuxxing is you being a participant in the market.

The entire concept of "courting" a woman is participation.

Why would a man work to gain extremes of wealth only to ironically still play by the same rules of a common man.

I am pursuing wealth so that I no longer have to play the games that plebs are forced to play.

How can I put it:
Becoming rich and then dating/betabuxxing, is like becoming rich and then working a 9 to 5 job.

It doesn't make sense, the purpose of your wealth is to escape those rules/limitations and do what others can't.

Why "court" when you can "buy"?






its a form of moral similiar to normies in structure but different in content.
That's exactly my point, the majority of normies are hypocrites too lol

You will find maybe a few people who have a "consistent morality" that sympathize with us (do not ridicule us), yet assert that they can't force women to be with men they are not attracted to (because of that same moral code)

th[UWSL]e only reason you are claiming this to be hypocritical is because such line of thinking is ridiculous from the outside[/UWSL]
No its ridiculous from the inside, its contradictory as a whole

If you can't see celebrating a woman's rape and the talking about going to heaven after you die as hypocritical and delusional, you are a fucking retard who lacks even a shred of self awareness. You have to be completely deluded to believe you are going to heaven when that is your mindset and you celebrate the death and suffering of others.

That's my point.

[UWSL]but than you are already claiming you are not restricting yourself to the outside point of view so you are contradicting yourself.[/UWSL]
No it isn't, there is no contradiction.

What you did here is a "word salad", it just looks like you strung some words together and hoped they made sense.

I don't think you even read anything I said properly or you are just so delusional and biased that you forced out this false interpretation.

Your entire argument here is a strawman, my view has to do more with the inside than the outside.

[UWSL]the other thing is that subhuman in the face does not mean subhuman in everything[/UWSL]
I'm sorry, your attractiveness matters more than everything else when it comes to being "subhuman". You can tell yourself whatever copes you want, but if you have a deformed and grotesque face but also a 300+ IQ, you will still be considered subhuman, and rightfully so, your genes are defective.

Your species won't breed with you because the negatives of your deformity far outweigh the benefit of your genetic intelligence if added to the gene pool. At best your offspring would be used as tools for progressing the species that never get to enjoy any aspect of "living like a human".

They would definitely feel "subhuman" every day of their lives.

[UWSL]its perfectly normal for incels to retain a semblance of pride. if an incel work hard through his talent and mog his school friend in many ways just to come back to empty room and feels defeated by chad[/UWSL]
This sounds like an idiot to me, one should do things to objectively improve your own life, not have others praise you or "see you in a better light". The priorities of this individual are off, and they will continue to live a sad life so long as they cling to that mindset.

Why do you guys spend so much time thinking about Chad?

And yeh I definitely concur. The "Bu-bu-but Chad doesn't have to-" incels are MAJORLY subhuman in their way of thinking :feelshaha:
This guy ironically came into this thread and presented himself as Exhibit A of what were talking about

"but but but CHAD CAN DO X...."

@rottingricecel
Do you spend time thinking about people who were born with extremes of intelligence that will forever dwarf yours?

Do you spend time thinking about people who were born into wealth and will never work a day in their entire lives?

Why is it that you only compare yourself to the exception to the rule of attractiveness?

[UWSL]how do you expect him to resign himself to inferiority?[/UWSL]
By accepting reality

[UWSL]he plays the rules of society for most of his life and he believes society owes him a higher standard of living.[/UWSL]
You are just proving my point more and more :feelskek:

This is EGOTISTICAL

Remember what I said:
If there's one thing I've learned from being on this forum, its the fact that most incels are ironically EGOTISTICAL and are a walking contradiction.
NOBODY IS OWED ANYTHING IN LIFE

NOBODY DESERVES ANYTHING IN LIFE

LIFE DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT


My signature exists for delusional incels like yourself.

[UWSL]he sees himself as an equal, with deformed facial features, and he feel wronged, very much consistent.[/UWSL]
That's the contradiction

IF YOU ARE AN INCEL

THEN YOU ARE NOT EQUAL

YOUR REFUSAL TO ACCEPT THAT IS WHAT MAKES YOU DELUSIONAL


[UWSL]last, even those make fun of people dying and want to ascend to heaven is not necessarily inconsistent in logic unless viewed from a normie perspective.[/UWSL]
It is inconsistent, both parties are inconsistent with morality, this is not rocket science, its an obvious contradiction.

YOU DO REALIZE YOU ARE MAKING AN "APPEAL TO MAJORITY" FALLACY RIGHT?

"Well normies use morality this way and they don't say its inconsistent, so when we do it it's not inconsistent either".

No, you're both inconsistent in your logic.

You're both hypocrites.

[UWSL]is islam extremists who bombed the place to go to heaven retarded? yes. are they necessarily inconsistent? no. from their angle, they kill some people, they go to heaven. not to mention making low fun of people dying really isnt a big deal for some and if at the same time he tries to prevent people from dying i would not claim him a hypocrite. a never have much of respect for ceremonial things[/UWSL]
Yes, and they are also inconsistent with their logic.

You can't assert yourself to be "the religion of peace" when most of what you do is spread violence and wage wars lol.

This is exactly why "the religion of peace" phrase is a meme often used to mock Islam lol.

You are just adding to my point, they are literally a perfect example of hypocrisy and delusion.

[UWSL]i dont believe doing things of no consequence like laughing on the internet is 'morally corrupt'.[/UWSL]
Yeah, I'm sure if they start international incel day online where people make fun of incels all day you won't find anything immoral about that lol.

Now I think I'll end this here, if you can't understand after all of that it's pointless.
 
I think the natural way of status is not having to react to what other people do, being independent from the majority in a way which having cash can do. So it’s probably not always just giving some whore all your money that is attractive, it’s that you could drop 700 at a moments notice and still not have to give a fuck. Most people be walking around like peasant boy small dongs. Age gets correlated with status though if you look the part, so where I live bunch of foids be trying to get their “daddy”
 
Betabuxxing is you being a participant in the market.

The entire concept of "courting" a woman is participation.

Why would a man work to gain extremes of wealth only to ironically still play by the same rules of a common man.

I am pursuing wealth so that I no longer have to play the games that plebs are forced to play.

How can I put it:
Becoming rich and then dating/betabuxxing, is like becoming rich and then working a 9 to 5 job.

It doesn't make sense, the purpose of your wealth is to escape those rules/limitations and do what others can't.

Why "court" when you can "buy"?
That logic only works if you consider "bought" relationships to be the exact same as "courted" relationships and I tend to disagree with that premise.

If you're "buying" into female interactions, then these interactions aren't geniune because the female isn't convinced that you're worthy of them. She just pretends it or tries to convince herself of that, but subcontiously she knows you don't "deserve" her interactions and it will certainly compromise your experience.

"Courted" female interactions are very different from that, because the female doesn't have to constantly keep this charade of her trying to pretend that you're worthy alive. The foid is intrinsicly convinced, that she's interacting with you because you're a worthy mating partner. That will make her much more invested in the interaction and it will show.

In "bought" relationships the foid will always feel obligated to interact with you, while in "courted" relationships she actually wants to interact with you and that makes a huge difference.
 
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If you're "buying" into female interactions, then these interactions aren't geniune because the female isn't convinced that you're worthy of them.
You aren't buying "interactions", you're buying use of her body. You are still thinking of this in terms of "seeking a relationship". I don't want a relationship, I want sex.

A lot of you guys really value women too much, seriously say what you just said over to yourself, its basically female worship, a lot of incels seem to have this weird "reverence" for women. To the point where just "interacting" with them is something you would pay for.

Your mind went straight to buying "female interactions" and wanting something "genuine".

Her holes are genuinely holes lol, use them.


She just pretends it or tries to convince herself of that, but subcontiously she knows you don't "deserve" her interactions and it will certainly compromise your experience.
I don't know about you, but that would just make the experience more enjoyable for me.

I remember seeing this video posted on the site before and it actually proves my point even more that a lot of incels are egotistical and worse than that THEY REVERE WOMEN AND DESIRE THEIR VALIDATION.


The person who posted this video used this as a reason why they would never pay for sex, and ironically all they did was show how much they value and respect women, despite all the larping they do around the site of calling women "foids" and saying they hate women. (they are just lying to themselves, they respect and revere women)

For the average incel something like this is shameful, for me it would be even more enjoyable, I'd treat it as a badge of honor, I'd hope that I could catch a glimpse of that face, in fact I'd ask that she not bother hiding it or pretending. It would make the experience all that more enjoyable for me.

BECAUSE I SEE WOMEN AS AN ENEMY TO BE CONQUERED BY WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY

THEY ARE THINGS TO BE ACQUIRED

I DO NOT RESPECT NOR REVERE THEM LIKE SO MANY INCELS SEEM TO (WHICH IS THE GREATEST IRONY OF ALL)




PLEASE TELL ME, WHAT SHOULD BE MORE SATISFYING TO AN INCEL, A MAN REJECTED AND MOCKED BY WOMEN HIS ENTIRE LIFE, THAN TO HAVE A WOMAN BEGRUDGINGLY SUBMIT TO ALL OF YOUR SEXUAL ADVANCES?

In that act, you are defying reality, you are turning the universe itself on its head, you are spitting in the face of society and the limitations it imposed on you your entire life.

She will feel violated, and you bearing witness to that violation will feel redeemed.

In that act you are triumphant.

I remember the look on the face of the (first and only) whore I fucked when I ejaculated on her tits and looked down at her face. She was holding back this look of disappointment and disgust, it was "leaking out behind the mask", and it was oh so satisfying. :feelsohh:


I'm sorry but I don't want "mutual attraction" at this point.

I think I'm someone who "adapts involuntarily" which is probably a rare trait and that's probably why so many incels don't share my mindset. A lot of these mental changes and changes in my desires happen passively.

I don't care about women enough to actually want mutual attraction from them. My sexual proclivities changed with my world view, if I ever did want that before I definitely don't want that now.

You see this is why I made this thread:

There are so many incels going around claiming they "hate" women and using all the "meme words" (foids, holes, etc), but when we get down to their core beliefs, desires, and goals, ITS THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

They respect and revere women, their entire "persona" of hating women is just a facade, they are larping.

My hate is genuine, and that hate has gone on to shape my world view, my beliefs, and even my sexual proclivities.


"Courted" female interactions are very different from that, because the female doesn't have to constantly keep this charade of her trying to pretend that you're worthy alive. The foid is intrinsicly convinced, that she's interacting with you because you're a worthy mating partner. That will make her much more invested in the interaction and it will show.
I don't really care about what the woman thinks to be honest. If she enjoys fucking me that's icing on the cake, if she doesn't I'll enjoy that too because in that act I am violating her and I am redeeming myself against society. It is truly satisfying to experience a sexual release with a woman who you know doesn't want to be with you and hates you just for your genetics.

I don't see what could be more satisfying than that to an incel, its literally you defying reality itself.

Its you violating the code that everyone else lives by, the "everyone else" that has looked down on you and mistreated you.

In "bought" relationships the foid will always feel obligated to interact with you, while in "courted" relationships she actually wants to interact with you and that makes a huge difference.
Once again, who said anything about relationships.

Relationships are a form of courtship, and remember what I said:
Betabuxxing is you being a participant in the market.

The entire concept of "courting" a woman is participation.

Why "court" when you can "buy"?
I would say "why buy the whole cow when you can just buy the milk", but you clearly value the cow more than the milk.
 
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Do you spend time thinking about people who were born with extremes of intelligence that will forever dwarf yours?

Do you spend time thinking about people who were born into wealth and will never work a day in their entire lives?

Why is it that you only compare yourself to the exception to the rule of attractiveness?
because despite the very surface level distaste towards chads they're still cucked to the core and chad lives rent free in their heads, imagine being blackpilled and using that knowledge to rot, might as well just rope at that point
I remember the look on the face of the (first and only) whore I fucked when I ejaculated on her tits and looked down at her face. She was holding back this look of disappointment and disgust, and it was oh so satisfying :feelsohh:
:lul:
this is the type of resentment that should be shown towards toilets, not some retard making a thread about how hes a low inhib god because he didnt hold the door for a foid and racking up 50+ replies for something that should be standard in their daily lives
 
just get a hooker at that point, foids have nothing to offer other than their beauty, they are insufferable to be around in between cums.
 
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this is the type of resentment that should be shown towards toilets, not some retard making a thread about how hes a low inhib god because he didnt hold the door for a foid and racking up 50+ replies for something that should be standard in their daily lives
I cringe anytime I see a thread like that, because it just seems so childish and pointless.

I hold the door open for women and men, without a second thought, because it doesn't have anything to with anything, its so mundane, it's just common courtesy and its not me "going out of my way".

However if that same woman is being robbed, attacked or in need of help, guess who won't be lining up, I'll walk right by, because that is very much connected to the reality of being incel. Being seen as a utility to protect and help women without a reward or being treated as a "member of the species" yourself.

If you are not allowed to mate among the species then you essentially are not a member of that species.

This is also why I have no racial allegiance and why the racial allegiance of "pro aryan" white incels seems like a joke to me.

A lot of these guys still see themselves as "part of the team" :feelskek:. They are coping hard, its nothing but delusion.

My allegiance is to myself and other incels only (but genuine incels who are worth helping are few in number).
 
This is also why I have no racial allegiance and why the racial allegiance of "pro aryan" white incels seems like a joke to me

A lot of these guys still see themselves as "part of the team" :feelskek:. They are coping hard, its nothing but delusion.
its so fucking ironic, those are the same kind of people that would throw you under the bus for being an incel, patriotism/nationalism/racism are the biggest cope for an incel, its literally just stockholm syndrome at that point
the ''race'' you belong to should be to other incels like you said
but whats more pathetic than that? the ethnics on here literally worshipping the white race while shitting on their own simultaneously, like how the fuck is that shit even allowed on here? doesnt get more cucked than that
 
You are still thinking of this in terms of "seeking a relationship". I don't want a relationship, I want sex.
I don't understand the problem then. What you want is widely available and legal in many countries, you should be happy.
You will have to pay for it while Chad doesn't, but I think that isn't a huge deal. You being able to get what you want is most important.
Personally, I don't care about sex so much. I don't see how sticking my penis in a vagina has any advantage over sticking it into a fleshlight or my fist.
I care about (romantic) interaction between male and female, not just sticking my penis in a hole.

A lot of you guys really value women too much, seriously say what you just said over to yourself, its basically female worship, a lot of incels seem to have this weird "reverence" for women. To the point where just "interacting" with them is something you would pay for.
I don't think we value women too much, I think you undervalue them to a degree that isn't logical anymore. It seems that you see them just as objects, which they simply are not. I know that many incels think of women as objects, which is so stupid, because that statement is per defintion wrong. They aren't objects and shouldn't be seen as such.

Personally, I think there is pleasure to be drawn from human interaction and that is also true for interaction with females.
The pleasure of geniune interaction with other people is what I miss and crave, not the desire to rub my dick on something.
Contrary to you, I can't buy what I crave.

Reducing foids to objects you want to fuck is like reducing dogs to plushies you want to pet. But there is more to them. They're living creatures and interacting with them can be pleasurable.

The person who posted this video used this as a reason why they would never pay for sex, and ironically all they did was show how much they value and respect women, despite all the larping they do around the site of calling women "foids" and saying they hate women. (they are just lying to themselves, they respect and revere women)

For the average incel something like this is shameful, for me it would be even more enjoyable, I'd treat it as a badge of honor, I'd hope that I could catch a glimpse of that face, in fact I'd ask that she not bother hiding it or pretending. It would make the experience all that more enjoyable for me.
I'm completly on the side of the person who posted this. Seeing it makes me cringe. I don't know how anyone could get pleasure from this. But that's not because I respect or revere women. It's because engaging in group activities with people who clearly don't want to participate takes all the fun out.
I literally can't see the difference between this video and fucking a microwaved loaf of meat.

BECAUSE I SEE WOMEN AS AN ENEMY TO BE CONQUERED BY WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY
This is so illogical and contradictory I can't believe it comes from you.
Why in the world would they want to let you fuck them if you're literally making yourself their enemy?
It's perfectly healthy and normal behavior to not engage with your enemies, so it's not surprising they won't engage with you.

THEY ARE THINGS TO BE ACQUIRED
They are per definition not things.

I don't really care about what the woman thinks to be honest. If she enjoys fucking me that's icing on the cake, if she doesn't I'll enjoy that too because in that act I am violating her and I am redeeming myself against society. It is truly satisfying to experience a sexual release with a woman who you know doesn't want to be with you and hates you just for your genetics.

I don't see what could be more satisfying than that to an incel, its literally you defying reality itself.

Its you violating the code that everyone else lives by, the "everyone else" that has looked down on you and mistreated you.


Once again, who said anything about relationships.

Relationships are a form of courtship, and remember what I said:

I would say "why buy the whole cow when you can just buy the milk", but you clearly value the cow more than the milk.
I can understand your mindset, but I think you're just coping.
Fucking some used up hooker might give you a feeling of "justice being done" while it's really just your way of accepting your fate of never being able to experience what normal male female interaction is like.
Payed sex isn't and never will be a substitute for a relationship in which the foid is actually attracted to you.
 
Now I think I'll end this here, if you can't understand after all of that it's pointless.
i do understand your point. in fact i believe you to be perfectly rational if some factors of human biology is not in play. the person above me is right, there is a reason why escortcels are disatisfied, your arguments simply are not factoring to basic human needs.

the need from validation from females is intrinsic. yes, if you dont believe that any remotely NT programmed people are not born to be Simps of a degree, you are delusional.

morality is also intrinsic, granted the concept is always different from people to people because it does not really exist (like consciousness), but people are biologically programmed to believe in it. we are programmed to like and protect cute useless animals and kill people at the same time, and it is how morality has always worked. is it cope? yes. but it is intrinsic, and its not logically contradictory, not in the way math works anyways. if its hypocritical then its not something that we can fight against, just like our nature of simping.

really, if you are here, then maybe part of your programming is also giving you discontent, despite your satisfaction abusing whores (which again isnt something any incel can do as their nature wont allow it).

its always relatively easy to be consistent in our own perspective but some incels will just never manage a detatched attitude towards females simply because they cannot override their nature.

the same is said about the 'look at chad'. overidding envy is easier but its pesky still

this is why even blackpilled people fall to betabux, its inevitable, and unfortunately as it is some of them are happier for it. its sad that some people hate women one moment and love them the next, its inconsistent, but its just a problem without a solution.
 
I would say "why buy the whole cow when you can just buy the milk", but you clearly value the cow more than the milk.
I read the entire reply.
I really thank you Mr BlkPillPres .
You are a valuable asset to the coomunity.

But there are circumstances where one is not in a position to buy the milk. and there are people who would like to take care of the cow.
personally i take your advice seriously.
 
Reducing foids to objects you want to fuck is like reducing dogs to plushies you want to pet. But there is more to them. They're living creatures and interacting with them can be pleasurable.
The irony is women reduce men to their looks as a norm and they see no problem with it, maybe that's one aspect they are superior to men in. Maybe that's something you can learn from them.

I'm completly on the side of the person who posted this. Seeing it makes me cringe. I don't know how anyone could get pleasure from this. But that's not because I respect or revere women. It's because engaging in group activities with people who clearly don't want to participate takes all the fun out.
I literally can't see the difference between this video and fucking a microwaved loaf of meat.
Incels like yourself in thread #1: "Women are people :soy:"

Incels like yourself in thread #2: "Foids and holes am I right? :feelzez:"

You are literally doing what I pointed out lol

If this is truly your perspective, then I hope from this point forward you'll be logically consistent and stop larping as if you hate women or see them as "less than"

Choose a stance a stick to it

This is so illogical and contradictory I can't believe it comes from you.
I don't think you even know the meaning of the word "contradictory"

Please tell me how this contradicts anything I've said?

Why in the world would they want to let you fuck them if you're literally making yourself their enemy?
Who the fuck said anything about "let", I'm fucking a whore I paid, she doesn't have a choice

Are you even following this conversation?

No wonder you are seeing contradictions, you're all over the place

It's perfectly healthy and normal behavior to not engage with your enemies, so it's not surprising they won't engage with you.
Dude please don't tell my you are making the retarded reddit tier "women can read your mind" or "sense your energy" argument?

They are per definition not things.
They can be used and acquired like things all the same

Humans aren't "things" and yet slavery has and still exists

Animals aren't "things" and yet we use them as property and food items

I can understand your mindset, but I think you're just coping.
Ok, believe what you must, I guess you aren't the one coping while you cling to desires that will never be attained........

Fucking some used up hooker might give you a feeling of "justice being done"
1. What woman today isn't "used up"?

If non-whores were usually virgins I'd completely agree with you.


2. Also its not about "justice", I don't know why you feel the need to add in words when I literally said what I said, it just comes off as disingenuous, like you are trying to paint a narrative, I gave so many examples:

"you are defying reality"

"feel redeemed"

"you are triumphant"
"Justice" just sounds like you projecting your moralistic mindset onto my beliefs rather than stating my beliefs as I laid them out.

There are strong undertones of "asserting morality" with the word "justice".

I don't feel "justified" in my thoughts or actions, I just do what I want because it benefits me.

Moralists seek out justification, nihilists simply do.


while it's really just your way of accepting your fate of never being able to experience what normal male female interaction is like.
"Accepting your fate" is actually the exact opposite of coping.

Denying your fate (denying reality) is the essence of coping.

Payed sex isn't and never will be a substitute for a relationship in which the foid is actually attracted to you.
1. Not trying to get a relationship, I'm trying to get what men get into relationships for lol.

Would you even get into a relationship with SPECIFICALLY a woman if you had no sex drive at all? (serious question).

The obvious answer is no, there's no reason to, you can get everything else from men who you can relate to more and will share your interests, the only thing that can be gained from a relationship with the opposite sex, is sex and reproduction.


2. Please stop being deluded.

When it comes to AVERAGE and BELOW AVERAGE men.

WERE ALL PAYING

Prostitution = Renting
Dating = Leasing
Marriage = Buying

SO WERE ALL PAYING AT THE END OF THE DAY.

You can lie to yourself and convince yourself that this isn't the norm but the stats aren't in your favor.

Women have statistically always dated and married up the socioeconomic ladder, and even today when women in America are earning more degrees than men and they have all the freedom and career choices they want, they are STILL marrying up the socio-economic ladder.

In fact a woman with a college education is 98% more likely to marry a man who makes more money than her.

(PLEASE TAKE A VISIT TO THE "SCIENTIFIC BLACK PILL" SECTION OF THE INCEL WIKI)

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "UNCONDITIONAL LOVE" AND PRETTY MUCH ALL ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIPS ARE TRANSACTIONAL.

The exception to the rule of "Chad can do X bro" does not matter, its statistically negligible, the exception to the rule does not disprove the rule.

Men have always been paying women for sex and/or companionship, THAT IS THE NORM.

Keep coping though, I'm sure you've find your magic unconditional non-transactional relationship one day lol.






really, if you are here, then maybe part of your programming is also giving you discontent, despite your satisfaction abusing whores (which again isnt something any incel can do as their nature wont allow it).
Dude I'm not wealthmaxxed, I've already said many times that if I could afford to pay for sex consistently I'd leave this forum for good, and that is my plan. I only fucked a whore once to lose my virginity, that was my sole goal at the time, baby steps.

its always relatively easy to be consistent in our own perspective but some incels will just never manage a detatched attitude towards females simply because they cannot override their nature.
Then its just hypocritical for them to then go on to berate normies and women in particular for not defying their own nature.

this is why even blackpilled people fall to betabux
I'll have to stop you right there

IF YOU BECOME A BETABUXX

YOU WERE NEVER BLACK PILLED


YOU WERE LARPING AND YOU WANTED TO FEEL "EDGY" AND FEEL LIKE "PART OF A COMMUNITY"





But there are circumstances where one is not in a position to buy the milk.
I am under such circumstances, its why I'm working to escape those circumstances one day

and there are people who would like to take care of the cow.
My point is those individuals are the very guys who I say are larping and going around the forum pretending to hate women

Its ridiculous to go around the forum calling women "holes", "foids", etc but then you want to take care of one and you want one to care for you

Its a contradiction, these guys can't choose their stance, their mind is in conflict
 
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The irony is women reduce men to their looks as a norm and they see no problem with it, maybe that's one aspect they are superior to men in. Maybe that's something you can learn from them.
Again Mr BlkPillPres, i appreciate your thoughts.
I am under such circumstances, its why I'm working to escape those circumstances one day
I admire your effort Mr BlkPillPres. hope you succeed in it.
My point is those individuals are the very guys who I say are larping and going around the forum pretending to hate women
I see your point Mr BlkPillPres. apparently they do not want to hate women. they were told onething and now they are experiencing something else. this is where the contradiction comes from.
 
You can buy that too
No you can't. You can't buy a women being attracted to you.

Incels like yourself in thread #1: "Women are people :soy:"

Incels like yourself in thread #2: "Foids and holes am I right? :feelzez:"

You are literally doing what I pointed out lol

If this is truly your perspective, then I hope from this point forward you'll be logically consistent and stop larping as if you hate women or see them as "less than"

Choose a stance a stick to it
I am logically consistent. Show me thread #2. I never said anything that would contradict seeing women as people and not objects.
I sometimes use the word foid just out of habit, because it's such a common term, but I don't (fully) support the message behind it.


I don't think you even know the meaning of the word "contradictory"

Please tell me how this contradicts anything I've said?
BECAUSE I SEE WOMEN AS AN ENEMY TO BE CONQUERED BY WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY
What I wanted to say is that this statement contradicts wanting a healthy relationship with a women because relationship is about being friends, not enemies. But since you said that you don't want to have a relationship it's not contradictory. true.

Dude please don't tell my you are making the retarded reddit tier "women can read your mind" or "sense your energy" argument?
I'm not saying that, but your thoughts will affect your actions.

1. What woman today isn't "used up"?

If non-whores were usually virgins I'd completely agree with you.
A sexworker will always have a higher bodycount and therefore be more "used up" than a normal women.

2. Also its not about "justice", I don't know why you feel the need to add in words when I literally said what I said, it just comes off as disingenuous, like you are trying to paint a narrative, I gave so many examples:


"Justice" just sounds like you projecting your moralistic mindset onto my beliefs rather than stating my beliefs as I laid them out.

There are strong undertones of "asserting morality" with the word "justice".

I don't feel "justified" in my thoughts or actions, I just do what I want because it benefits me.

Moralists seek out justification, nihilists simply do.
I didn't really think about it and I didn't intent to paint a narrative or something. I'm not a native speaker and it just was the first word that came to my mind. Sorry.

1. Not trying to get a relationship, I'm trying to get what men get into relationships for lol.

Would you even get into a relationship with SPECIFICALLY a woman if you had no sex drive at all? (serious question).

The obvious answer is no, there's no reason to, you can get everything else from men who you can relate to more and will share your interests, the only thing that can be gained from a relationship with the opposite sex, is sex and reproduction.
Well then the obvious answer differs from mine.
Yes I would get into a relationship even if it was without sex.
As I said before, having sex means very little to me. I could have it if I wanted because I have enough money to pay escorts, but I don't see the appeal of that.
I'm only interested in the experience of having a gf. Coming home to someone. Doing things with a significant other. Cuddling on the couch while watching netflix. These kind of things.
I don't care so much about rubbing my dick on a vagina. As I said, I literally don't see the difference between fucking an escort and fucking a microwaved meat-loaf. I'm serious.
 
I'm not saying that, but your thoughts will affect your actions.
Ok, but in what way?

Am I going to go around slapping bitches and screaming "I hate women"? lol.

Either way I'm talking about paying for sex, but even if I was talking about dating, its not hard to pretend and lie, as incels we do that everyday. At all of my places of work I was the "funny guy" that people want to switch shifts to work with.

So no, your thoughts don't really matter unless you don't have the common sense to act accordingly to get what you want.

A sexworker will always have a higher bodycount and therefore be more "used up" than a normal women.
1. "Higher" is an abitrary standard, the only objective and absolute standard is ZERO

2. A woman's body count only matters if you are trying to marry her, if you just want to have casual sex and fuck around, her body count doesn't matter. Remember, she isn't yours, it's just your turn.

I'm only interested in the experience of having a gf. Coming home to someone. Doing things with a significant other. Cuddling on the couch while watching netflix. These kind of things.

I don't care so much about rubbing my dick on a vagina. As I said, I literally don't see the difference between fucking an escort and fucking a microwaved meat-loaf. I'm serious.
Therein lies the confusion, you don't seem to realize that your "romantic interest" is rooted in your sexuality, all those things like "cuddling", etc is just simulated sex, its "foreplay".

If you took a pill that stripped away your libido completely, you wouldn't care about cuddling or anything like that, you'd be completely alright just having male friends and hanging out with them.

All romantic feelings are their core are the result of your sex drive, take that away and out goes any romantic interest in the opposite sex.


I think I'll end this here, we've gone back and forth enough at this point.

What I will say is that have you given thought to the fact that your perspective literally leads nowhere.

All I need to do is build my wealth over a few years and I have a clear path to follow that leads to an enjoyable life.

But you are still clinging to a path that will never yield any results, 10 years from now you're going to be in the same position you are in now, wanting to be in a relationship with a woman that "loves" you, because you refuse to accept that "love" never existed to begin with. It all comes down to biology, that's all that it is, and your biology makes you disgusting to women, so you'll never have their "love".

At some point you are going to have to change your path if you ever want to have anything to look forward too in life.

Don't wait until you are 50+ to then decide - "Oh I guess he was right" :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:
 
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The person who posted this video used this as a reason why they would never pay for sex, and ironically all they did was show how much they value and respect women, despite all the larping they do around the site of calling women "foids" and saying they hate women. (they are just lying to themselves, they respect and revere women)
:feelshaha: classic blkpillpress tell these foolz
 
No you can't. You can't buy a women being attracted to you.
But you can pay her to pretend she’s into you. You can pay her to treat you like a chad. And women are good at acting (they do it all the time).
 
I think I'll end this here, we've gone back and forth enough at this point.
Yeah we have two very different viewpoints and I don't think anything I say could make you change or question your beliefs.
Thanks for the talk, it was very interesting. I have to think about some things you mentioned, maybe my mindset is flawed at some points.
But that's what I value about a good forum culture, it makes you think about things, get different views and hear different oppinions. It was a nice change from the usual one liner replies that are so common around here.
 
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The maximum that you will get via redpill path is better deal betabuxxing. Nothing in the world will make you a chad, if you are a 5'6 manlet with 3/10 face.
 

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