Cope Sex is all that's important, love means nothing

[Giracel]

Inspired by a brief argument I just had with a GrAY.

The desire for sex is of course biologically ingrained and therefore essential. Sex is a vital act for procreation and health. Love and the desire for it is metaphysical, amorphous, and counterproductive. We lose the desire for it over time and experience, but the same is not true of sex.

Personally, my life experience has destroyed any foolish desire I had for love or "romance" — and it seems in tandem, my desire for sex has grown stronger. When I conceptualize sex, it is 90% of the time scenarios devoid of love. Is this a good place to be? Who knows, and who cares! I won't get either anyway. Fuck this world and fuck God or evolution or whatever for putting me in it at this point in history.

 

[grimlockcel]

I agree, I could never talk to a woman for longer than an hour I would want to end my life, sex is all ive ever wanted from women never anything else

 

[Giracel]

I agree, I could never talk to a woman for longer than an hour I would want to end my life, sex is all ive ever wanted from women never anything else

I wish this wasn't the case, I wish I could still see more value in them, but not anymore… at least not in my current state of mind.

I have been in a state of near psychosis since Saturday night, triggered by an ultimatum I was given.

 

[Itsoverm8]

It all really means nothing because they will never enjoy sex from me and love dont exist it’s just lust.

 

[Giracel]

It all really means nothing

Even more accurate tbh

 

[Tšuudi]

A part of me still desires love, but I know it's impossible to get

I have been in a state of near psychosis since Saturday night, triggered by an ultimatum I was given.

What was the ultimatum?

 

[Giracel]

A part of me still desires love, but I know it's impossible to get

I think I genuinely don't anymore but maybe I am just unstable at the moment. Even when stable it's only very little.

What was the ultimatum?

It's basically part 2 of this: https://incels.is/threads/my-parents-got-me-a-christmas-present-with-an-agenda.825877/

I've been debating about posting but I can't get my thoughts together, I am losing control and said a bunch of insane shit to my family (dad mainly) and am afraid that I might get some intervention or surveillance put on me

 

[nico]

cope

 

[Giracel]

cope

True, changed the tag

 

[Tšuudi]

I think I genuinely don't anymore but maybe I am just unstable at the moment. Even when stable it's very little.

I think it would be for the best if I stopped wanting it as well.

It's basically part 2 of this: https://incels.is/threads/my-parents-got-me-a-christmas-present-with-an-agenda.825877/

I've been debating about posting but I can't get my thoughts together, I am losing control and said a bunch of insane shit to my family (dad mainly) and am afraid that I might get some intervention or surveillance put on me

Are they trying to force you into med school?

I hope you don't get any intervention or surveillance put on you . I doubt there is anything I can do to help but if you need anything then feel free to message me and I will try to help out.

 

[Giracel]

I think it would be for the best if I stopped wanting it as well.

This sounds messed up, but one thing I've done to kill the last dregs of it, is to fantasize about an older sister, rather than a girlfriend. That's not "love" but it's still something that gets me excited. I wanted an older sister before I even thought about dating tbh, I was fucked in the head from birth. I used to fantasize about being locked in a shed and molested by older girls that would come in and check on me periodically.

Are they trying to force you into med school?

I hope you don't get any intervention or surveillance put on you . I doubt there is anything I can do to help but if you need anything then feel free to message me and I will try to help out.

Yes it's over, and they're right because I've siloed myself into a narrow skillset with my degree so this is literally the only viable option long term. I will explain more if I post on it.

I appreciate your ear, but there is nothing you can do. I have just been consumed with hatred the past few days since this, that's why I said about my HS oneitis mom dying of cancer. I don't normally say those things. And I began also to think that rape was not wrong, but it is.

 

[Tšuudi]

This sounds messed up, but one thing I've done to kill the last dregs of it is to fantasize about an older sister rather than a girlfriend. That's not "love" but it's still something that gets me excited. I wanted an older sister before I even thought about dating tbh, I was fucked in the head from birth.

I used to fantasize about having an older sister too, but it didn't really do anything to stop my desire for love.

I used to fantasize about being locked in a shed and molested by older girls that would come in and check on me periodically.

Damn, I have fantasized about older girls doing things to me but not to the point of locking me up. The idea of me being locked up just gives me anxiety.

Yes it's over, and they're right because I've siloed myself into a narrow skillset with my degree so this is literally the only viable option long term. I'll explain more if I post on it.

Alright, tag me if you decide to post on it.

I appreciate your ear, but there is nothing you can do. I have just been consumed with hatred the past few days since this, that's why I said about my HS oneitis mom dying of cancer. I don't normally say those things. And I began also to think that rape was not wrong, but it is.

It's alright, I've had moments like that too, I think the longest one lasted for a month, I was so on edge that I was seriously just considering walking away from everything and never coming back. I also considered suicide.

 

[Sex-Starved Beast]

There can be sex with no love, but there can't be love without sex, especially for women.

 

[Giracel]

I used to fantasize about having an older sister too, but it didn't really do anything to stop my desire for love.

Robbed of onee-chan tender touch

Damn, I have fantasized about older girls doing things to me but not to the point of locking me up. The idea of me being locked up just gives me anxiety.

The weird thing is that I associate that fantasy very strongly with this sort of cult-house that my family used to attend. I am quite certain that is where I actually had those thoughts. I may have been picking up on some metaphysical wavelength… always thought that whole operation was shifty.

Alright, tag me if you decide to post on it.

For sure, tonight but more likely tomorrow. I think I'm going to stay up all night.

It's alright, I've had moments like that too, I think the longest one lasted for a month, I was so on edge that I was seriously just considering walking away from everything and never coming back. I also considered suicide.

I feel like I'm not fully in control of what I am thinking and saying. It's concerning.

 

[TimeMachineOrLDAR]

A part of me still desires love, but I know it's impossible to get

Swallowing this has broke me

 

[Caichan]

It’s completely naive to still chase it

 

[Giracel]

It’s completely naive to still chase it

Especially since it will never compare to the teen love you missed. But cucks will still claim losing your virginity with a 35 year old single mom is the same as with a virgin 18 year old.

 

[Tšuudi]

Robbed of onee-chan tender touch

It's not fair

The weird thing is that I associate that fantasy very strongly with this sort of cult-house that my family used to go to. I am quite certain that is where I thought that. I may have been picking up on some metaphysical wavelength… always thought that whole operation was shifty.

Interesting, I wonder what that place was all about

For sure, tonight but more likely tomorrow. I think I'm going to stay up all night.

I hope you get at least some rest.

I feel like I'm not fully in control of what I am thinking and saying. It's concerning.

Hopefully your mental state stabilizes soon, feeling like that is awful

 

[Giracel]

Swallowing this has broke me

Let it poison you from the inside out…

 

[Giracel]

Interesting, I wonder what that place was all about

The full context of that place and the people involved in it would require a massive discussion, which I intend to make at some point tbh. I have a lot of stuff to say from the past which is why even though my current life is boring I will never run out of interesting content.

Hopefully your mental state stabilizes soon, feeling like that is awful

How did you climb out of your episodes such as the month-long one?

 

[Tšuudi]

The full context of that place and the people involved in it would require a massive discussion, which I intend to make at some point tbh. I have a lot of stuff to say from the past which is why even though my current life is boring I will never run out of interesting content.

It would certainly be an interesting read.

How did you climb out of your episodes such as the month-long one?

Constantly being on edge just made me so tired that instead of being angry and nervous I became depressed and lethargic, then that lasted for an even longer time and then I slowly went back to normal, which I guess would be just mild depression.

 

[Krad]

Inspired by a brief argument I just had with a GrAY.

The desire for sex is of course biologically ingrained and therefore essential. Sex is a vital act for procreation and health. Love and the desire for it is metaphysical, amorphous, and counterproductive. We lose the desire for it over time and experience, but the same is not true of sex.

Personally, my life experience has destroyed any foolish desire I had for love or "romance" — and it seems in tandem, my desire for sex has grown stronger. When I conceptualize sex, it is 90% of the time scenarios devoid of love. Is this a good place to be? Who knows, and who cares! I won't get either anyway. Fuck this world and fuck God or evolution or whatever for putting me in it at this point in history.

Please, respect with God, i beg you

 

[Krad]

Swallowing this has broke me

There is a world where love exists, do you believe it?

 

[Giracel]

Please, respect with God, i beg you

Sorry

Also proselytizing isn't allowed here, which is the majority of your short post history

 

[Krad]

Sorry

Also proselytizing isn't allowed here, which is the majority of your short post history

Ok, i know, but it's not proselytizing to ask for respect to God

 

[Giracel]

Constantly being on edge just made me so tired that instead of being angry and nervous I became depressed and lethargic, then that lasted for an even longer time and then I slowly went back to normal, which I guess would be just mild depression.

Sounds good, I'm familiar with that progression. I sense this will take a while. I have to go back to school in a few days so maybe just leaving my house will fix things tbh.

 

[Giracel]

Ok, i know, but it's not proselytizing to ask for respect to God

Ok GrAY

 

[Tšuudi]

Sounds good, I'm familiar with that progression. I sense this will take a while. I have to go back to school in a few days so maybe just leaving my house will fix things tbh.

Sometimes it's good to go outside, although I still avoid it.

I was supposed to go to school today but I couldn't figure out where the classes were so I just went back inside to LDAR.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

this is a good thing, congratulations

 

[Giracel]

Sometimes it's good to go outside, although I still avoid it.

I was supposed to go to school today but I couldn't figure out where the classes were so I just went back inside to LDAR.

I stopped going on walks because the school kids are back in session and when I would go was the dismissal time. I can't stand being around the high schoolers and younger kids.

That's so funny and based hahaha. LDAR and never get up.

 

[Giracel]

this is a good thing, congratulations

Ok! Hopefully I can keep this principle even when I return to stasis.

 

[Tšuudi]

I stopped going on walks because the school kids are back in session and when I would go was the dismissal time.

I live next to the school I go to and most students are teenagers and young adults so I usually only go outside in the evening when the area is quieter.

I can't stand being around the high schoolers and younger kids.

Same, being around them ranges from annoying to suifuel.

That's so funny and based hahaha. LDAR and never get up.

I just sent a message to the teacher saying I couldn't make it today even though it's a 5 minute walk to get there, it turned out to be a good idea because she responded saying today we would have had group assignments.

 

[Giracel]

I live next to the school I go to and most students are teenagers and young adults so I usually only go outside in the evening when the area is quieter.

For me the college is hundreds of miles away. But my family's house, where I rot during breaks, is near a high school and a huge middle and elementary school complex. So it's always inundated with these drones.

I just sent a message to the teacher saying I couldn't make it today even though it's a 5 minute walk to get there, it turned out to be a good idea because she responded saying today we would have had group assignments.

Group assignments are so retarded, no one learns from that shit tbh

 

[TimeMachineOrLDAR]

There is a world where love exists, do you believe it?

No. Tell me about it

 

[Tšuudi]

For me the college is hundreds of miles away. But my family's house where I rot during breaks is near a high school and a huge middle and primary school complex. So it's always inundated with these drones.

Being near them is awful, most of them are loud and obnoxious.

Group assignments are so retarded, no one learns from that shit tbh

Exactly, and I'm in a class with a lot of low inhib teenagers .

 

[Giracel]

Exactly, and I'm in a class with a lot of low inhib teenagers .

Are you still in high school? I finish college in spring assuming I don't ruin everything due to lacking motivation.

 

[Tšuudi]

Are you still in high school? I finish college in spring assuming I don't ruin everything due to lacking motivation.

I'm currently going to a vocational school.

 

[Giracel]

I'm currently going to a vocational school.

Better than "higher" education tbh

 

[Tšuudi]

Better than "higher" education tbh

Yeah, I was thinking I would study engineering or chemistry but then I decided that a vocational school would be easier and less stressful.

 

[Giracel]

Yeah, I was thinking I would study engineering or chemistry but then I decided that a vocational school would be easier and less stressful.

Engineering is still good because you can start work with it immediately after. But thinks like chemistry or biology/biochem (what I did) are cucked because you have to do so much more afterwards for it to even be worth it.

 

[The Wolf]

I'm from Germany, where sex-escorts are legal and where you can legally buy beer and wine at 16 (yup). I want free sex, not a sex-escort. Free cuddling. I'm 30 soon, but the odds are terrible that anything will change for me. I feel imprisoned.

 

[Giracel]

I'm from Germany, where sex-escorts are legal and where you can legally buy beer and wine at 16 (yup). I want free sex, not a sex-escort. Free cuddling. I'm 30 soon, but the odds are terrible that anything will change for me. I feel imprisoned.

Hello, it's the wholesome moderator

Absolutely brutal though to be nearing 30

 

[Tšuudi]

Engineering is still good because you can start work with it immediately after. But thinks like chemistry or biology/biochem (what I did) are cucked because you have to do so much more afterwards for it to even be worth it.

How much more do you have to do if you study chemistry or biology/biochem?

The only reason I was interested in engineering and chemistry was because explosions are fun, rockets are fun and tinkering with machines is fun.

Also a part of the reason I didn't pick chemistry or engineering was because I feel like my interests in those subjects are too specific.

 

[Giracel]

How much more do you have to do if you study chemistry or biology/biochem?

PhD or med school pretty much… I'll touch on this when I make my other post but this thread has probably gotten too far off-topic

 

[Tšuudi]

PhD or med school pretty much… I'll touch on this when I make my other post but this thread has probably gotten too far off-topic

True.

 

[EcstasyCel]

Pure sexual gratification means jack fucking shit, it's purely satisfying the lowest level of human impulse there is. While I stop thinking about a bitch after jerking off, I can't get the idea of romance out of my fucking head. It's so all-encompassing.

Thinking romance doesn't matter is MASSIVE COPE and a prostitute won't make you happy.

 

[Giracel]

it's purely satisfying the lowest level of human impulse there is

Then just let that impulse override and overwrite these supposedly loftier concepts like romance… I don't care

Thinking romance doesn't matter is MASSIVE COPE and a prostitute won't make you happy.

Like TheGrayWolf said, escorts are not the answer, and no one is claiming that. It was unclear from his comment what his stance on romance was, but it's sure less important than sex itself.

 

[The Wolf]

Hello, it's the wholesome moderator

Hello

Absolutely brutal though to be nearing 30

I can't believe it myself. I feel younger (because I'm only 5'4 and look 25 max) but also older (always tired).

 

[NormieCelll]

Having unpaid sex is the only way out of inceldom
Now wether "romance" is involved or not is irrelevant, it just needs to be a foid that wants it as much as the man does