Discussion Self respect in "Sweet surrender"

[Defetivecuckachu]

This may come as a surprise, to regular users and visitors to the incel forum alike.
But there are a number of women singers, rockers and solo artists, who I really rate, and I unashamedly blast their tunes from time to time. Some one- or two-hit wonders, and some who consistently have things to say that resonate, as well as making a banging tune.

Sarah McLachlan is in that category.

There's a bit to unpack in this song though:

View: https://youtu.be/h2JWJYLNUq4?si=RpQy9AEOJtcM-lWn

It doesn't mean much
It doesn't mean anything at all
The life I've left behind me is a cold room
I've crossed the last line
From where I can't return
Where every step I took in faith betrayed me
And led me from my home

That's based AF. Very very relatable.

And sweet surrender
Is all that I have to give
Take me in, no question's asked
You strip away the ugliness that surrounds me
(Who are you?)
Are you an angel?

That's kinda how I always imagined meeting a loving partner might feel. Poetry. Nice.

Am I already that gone?
I only hope that I won't disappoint you
When I'm down here on my knees

wait what?

You're someone who has followed her dreams, persevered in the music field where it is almost impossible to break through to the big time. But you've done it, and you've played to entire stadiums full of people who think you rock and your music rocks. You've already succeeded in life above 99.9% of people. And in spite of that, the **only** thing you hope is that you're good enough at sucking Chadpreet's cock to meet his expectations?

Really?

Why do women expect everyone else to respect them, when they don't even respect themselves?

ANY man getting his dick sucked is having one of the best days of his life. If he's got any common sense he's not going to be "disappointed" and he should understand how lucky he is to be fucking a literal rockstar. WHY would your prowess as a cock sucking whore even matter? Why would you care?

I'm not disappointed, Sarah, I'm just... surprised.

But I digress.

And sweet surrender
Is all that I have to give
And sweet surrender
Is all that I have to give

Don't understand
The touch of your hand
I would be the one to fall
I miss the little things
I miss everything about you

That's more like it.

Doesn't mean much
It doesn't mean anything at all
The life I left behind me is a cold room

And sweet surrender
Is all that I have to give
(Who are you?)
And sweet surrender
Is all that I have to give

The rest of this song is just beautiful. Beautiful, and real, and hits home. That just makes the trite middle verse about I really hope I don't disappoint you when I'm down on my knees sucking your dick all the more puzzling.


For comparison, here's what John Denver wrote under exactly the same title:

Lost and alone on some forgotten highway
Traveled by many, remembered by few
Lookin' for something that I can believe in
Lookin' for something that I'd like to do with my life

There's nothin' behind me and nothin' that ties me to
Something that might have been true yesterday

Tomorrow is open, right now it seems to be more than enough
To just be here today, and I don't know
What the future is holdin' in store
I don't know where I'm goin' I'm not sure where I've been
There's a spirit that guides me, a light that shines for me
My life is worth the livin', I don't need to see the end

Sweet, sweet surrender, live, live without care
Like a fish in the water, like a bird in the air
Sweet, sweet surrender, live, live without care
Like a fish in the water, like a bird in the air

I don't know much about the American country music tradition, but I really like it. Can you tell?


Reference for use of "Chadpreet" in paragraph above: