Russia probably negotiating a withdrawal from Ukraine now

[WizardofSoda]

One idea is a withdrawal of Russian forces from Ukraine. But the West and Ukraine agree to not go beyond the borders of the DPR and LPR as they were on Feb-24. And Russia keeps Crimea.

The DPR and LPR armies are pretty substantial plus the West has control of Ukraine.

 

[JayGoptri]

Finally, now we can get on with the next shit show.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Finally, now we can get on with the next shit show.

One thing starting in the US & UK is strikes and rising organized labor. Because at least in the US there is this huge shortage of labor, we have 11 million unfilled jobs. Our workforce is about 155 million. So workers have more and more power, which was part of the intention with the mass printing was to get workers negotiating power. Both on an individual level in the job market, and for organized labor. Then there is the inflation which at 8%, workers should minimum be getting an 8% raise.

 

[asocialcel]

Brutally over for ruskicels

 

[JayGoptri]

One thing starting in the US & UK is strikes and rising organized labor. Because at least in the US there is this huge shortage of labor, we have 11 million unfilled jobs. Our workforce is about 155 million. So workers have more and more power, which was part of the intention with the mass printing was to get workers negotiating power. Both on an individual level in the job market, and for organized labor. Then there is the inflation which at 8%, workers should minimum be getting an 8% raise.

Remember I told you this exact thing would happen, do you recall? I don't really know much about the logistics or daily events in this war, but what I do know is that the U.S. can't afford to support this shit, and many people in America know this fact. While the government and society collapses and people begin acting like wild monkey's why the fuck should they give two shits about Ukranians? I mean "Climate Change" and "Ukraine" and all these distractions from the utter horror happening in the United States is shameful behavior by the Leftists. The rich ones really want their middle class citizen to believe that "Climate Change" is an important thing? Or even a thing at all? Rubbish !

 

[NorthernWind]

We will see.

 

[EternalStorm]

Remember I told you this exact thing would happen, do you recall? I don't really know much about the logistics or daily events in this war, but what I do know is that the U.S. can't afford to support this shit, and many people in America know this fact. While the government and society collapses and people begin acting like wild monkey's why the fuck should they give two shits about Ukranians? I mean "Climate Change" and "Ukraine" and all these distractions from the utter horror happening in the United States is shameful behavior by the Leftists. The rich ones really want their middle class citizen to believe that "Climate Change" is an important thing? Or even a thing at all? Rubbish !

 

[Misogynist Curry 卐]

Make a thread about Armenia vs Azerbaijan war

 

[Dregster]

One thing starting in the US & UK is strikes and rising organized labor. Because at least in the US there is this huge shortage of labor, we have 11 million unfilled jobs. Our workforce is about 155 million. So workers have more and more power, which was part of the intention with the mass printing was to get workers negotiating power. Both on an individual level in the job market, and for organized labor. Then there is the inflation which at 8%, workers should minimum be getting an 8% raise.

Job shortages at what exactly ??

 

[WizardofSoda]

Make a thread about Armenia vs Azerbaijan war

https://incels.is/threads/wars-are-...-soviet-union-due-to-the-power-vacuum.409420/

@shii410 started one, bumping it.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Job shortages at what exactly ??

Basically everything there is shortages of workers. That is one of the reasons for the inflation is firms are bidding against each other trying to fill jobs. Then since they all can't fill the jobs they have more orders than they can fill. So they are raising the prices, which then lets them bid more for workers. This also means people are getting more money to spend by higher incomes. Which was part of the overall plan of the mass printing.

So we are bringing in masses of immigrants to fill the jobs but so far its not bringing down the number of job openings. As more jobs are being created too as the firms' order books have waiting lists.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Realistically we might get 3 million net immigrants a year right now, so its going to take time to fill these 11 million open jobs.

 

[Mogged Loner]

GigaCope


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl959QnD3lM

 

[WizardofSoda]

GigaCope


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl959QnD3lM

 

[Mogged Loner]

Based Putin Will Not Be Defeated!

 

[Knajjd]

Putin has failed so far but hasn't failed yet. Putin won't back down so they will be another phase of the war.

 

[SIR ETHNICCEL]

One idea is a withdrawal of Russian forces from Ukraine. But the West and Ukraine agree to not go beyond the borders of the DPR and LPR as they were on Feb-24. And Russia keeps Crimea.

The DPR and LPR armies are pretty substantial plus the West has control of Ukraine.

I doubt Russia will outright give up. They still have reserves if really needed.

To me and this is just my opinion but looking at history, when exactly did America and her allies pull out of Vietnam, Afgahnistan, North Korea? Exactly when the costs of continuing were too high. And that even though they had way more fire power, 10X better equipment and striking reach.
When was Hitler and Napoleon defeated? Exactly when they ran out of resources i.e cash and raw material.

If Russia changes tactics and goes for a constantly moving type of warefare the way the Wehrmacht did in WW2 and the way the Boer Republics did when they defeated the British Empire forces then all the new equipment the Ukrainianes have is kind of useless because it is more suited to offensive maneuvers against sedentary targets.

The West will collapse eventually under the weight of this war if the war is prolonged. The EU will collapse definately, the USA wont because they have enough resources in their soil. But America will have to financially prop up both the EU and Ukraine as well as their other commitments which even the Americans cannot sustain.

But anyway just my opninion. But yeah the current set of Russian tactics wont manage an outright victory however, if NATO stops funding Ukraine then it will collapse within 1 or 2 months. I am sure the Russian leadership know this, I am guessing they are not low iq. But yeah.

 

[PLA1092]

If Russia legitimately starts trying to reverse what happened, it's absolutely over for them in terms of optics.

 

[Deleted member 28708]

Putin has failed so far but hasn't failed yet. Putin won't back down so they will be another phase of the war.

he will be risking even bigger failure

 

[JayGoptri]

Job shortages at what exactly ??

More so than shortages, I fear a complete reduction of quality services and output from the U.S. (due to Leftist bullshit policies) and a moral and mental health crisis making it harder for people to take/create efficacious labor. Can anyone point to one thing economically positive (for the U.S.) that supporting the Ukranian had achieved?

 

[WizardofSoda]

For the US it only is costing us less than 1% of GDP to support Ukraine. So its a cheap way to pick up all or most of this country of 41 million people and add it to our empire. Also we don't particularly want Russia to get 41 million people and add it to Russia.

The US has seemed to quietly support the idea of Russia gets the 4 SE provinces of Ukraine that have about 9 million people and a lot of ethnic Russians. And the US/UK get the other 32 million people.

For the Europeans it would also be less than 1% of their GDP, so not that big of a problem.. but the issue hitting them is the Russian gas. And then that makes the natural gas on the market insanely expensive. Which Europe needs the natural gas as their economy runs on it.

 

[Dregster]

More so than shortages, I fear a complete reduction of quality services and output from the U.S. (due to Leftist bullshit policies) and a moral and mental health crisis making it harder for people to take/create efficacious labor. Can anyone point to one thing economically positive (for the U.S.) that supporting the Ukranian had achieved?

What effects do you think this will have on the more labor intensive jobs in construction like pouring foundations, framing, carpentry, paint, countertops, bathrooms etc etc ?

 

[JayGoptri]

What effects do you think this will have on the more labor intensive jobs in construction like pouring foundations, framing, carpentry, paint, countertops, bathrooms etc etc ?

My general assumption is that blue collard and various other labor intensive jobs will continue to function decently, until the policies enacted begin to force them into Union strikes, or other unforseen deals which thendeep state wealthy types along with certain well placed bureaucrats in government (if Leftist, or even many cuckservatives) will exploit for closed door bids and corruption practices. They will of course continue erode into less effective and less efficient job sectors over time. How fast or how slow directly depends on how much shorter people's behavior gets in The West. (Europe/America).

 

[WizardofSoda]

What effects do you think this will have on the more labor intensive jobs in construction like pouring foundations, framing, carpentry, paint, countertops, bathrooms etc etc ?

My view on your question. What theoretically should happen in the free market is as whites are even less likely to do those jobs, the price per hour goes up. And we have to bus in another several million Latinos and Slavcels to do that work.

@JayGoptri where I agree is leftist policies that is where we get in serious trouble, when you aren't allowed to build. its not whether we can, its whether they allow it.

 

[JayGoptri]

My view on your question. What theoretically should happen in the free market is as whites are even less likely to do those jobs, the price per hour goes up. And we have to bus in another several million Latinos and Slavcels to do that work.

@JayGoptri where I agree is leftist policies that is where we get in serious trouble, when you aren't allowed to build. its not whether we can, its whether they allow it.

They are not allowing forward progress in worthwhile ANY sector with all their current masturbations and preoccupation!

 

[SCP-Gorillion]

 

[JayGoptri]

Just look at this nonsense...

Joe Biden maneuvers to try to avoid devastating rail strike | World News - The Indian Express

The complicated dispute involves a dozen unions, each with its own process for ratifying agreements reached with the railroads, as well as more than 30 railroads and roughly 115,000 employees.

indianexpress.com

 

[WizardofSoda]

Just look at this nonsense...

Joe Biden maneuvers to try to avoid devastating rail strike | World News - The Indian Express

The complicated dispute involves a dozen unions, each with its own process for ratifying agreements reached with the railroads, as well as more than 30 railroads and roughly 115,000 employees.

indianexpress.com

that looked like it was going to be a strike which would have been brutal. As it was I think they are getting a 24% raise over some number of years that I don't know. And $11,000 signing bonuses right now.

 

[Zogpilled]

We will see. I think the Russians are at the point of no return. If they back down it will make Russia look weak and incompetent. On the other hand the eu is on the brink of collapse if they don’t get any natural gas by early winter. They’re factories and manufacturing relies on natural gas. Also USA is not in a good position to keep giving military/financially aid to Ukraine and the eu, plus it’s other commitments at the same time.

 

[WizardofSoda]

We will see. I think the Russians are at the point of no return. If they back down it will make Russia look weak and incompetent. On the other hand the eu is on the brink of collapse if they don’t get any natural gas by early winter. They’re factories and manufacturing relies on natural gas. Also USA is not in a good position to keep giving military/financially aid to Ukraine and the eu, plus it’s other commitments at the same time.

One way both sides are looking at it is if they get too shitty of a deal offered then they might as well keep fighting and making the other side pay economically like you are saying. On the other hand if they get a half-decent deal then they can agree and the other side doesn't have to pay all of those costs.

 

[subhuman]

russia is literally fucked. their entire country is gonna fall apart. the military was always the source of legitimacy for their regime. when the people learn moscow cant just "send in the tanks" they will revolt

World must be ready for Russia’s disintegration, US general says

The international community must prepare for the potential disintegration of Russia, Lieutenant General (Retired) Ben Hodges, former commander of United States Army Europe, wrote in an article for UK newspaper The Telegraph on Sept. 13.

news.yahoo.com

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

Geez I can't wait for the nuclear holocaust, fucking normies they have a big debt

 

[WizardofSoda]

russia is literally fucked. their entire country is gonna fall apart. the military was always the source of legitimacy for their regime. when the people learn moscow cant just "send in the tanks" they will revolt

World must be ready for Russia’s disintegration, US general says

The international community must prepare for the potential disintegration of Russia, Lieutenant General (Retired) Ben Hodges, former commander of United States Army Europe, wrote in an article for UK newspaper The Telegraph on Sept. 13.

news.yahoo.com

Probably how it will go down.. for many centuries Moscow has ruled because of the army and KGB or equivalent. And Moscow is rich from stealing from all these places which are poor. So why would they go along with that once Russia's army is down.. many regions will likely leave.

Even the core ethnic Russian regions I don't think they will leave.. but they are going to want to negotiate a new federalism probably where Moscow is a lot less powerful over them.

 

[JayGoptri]

that looked like it was going to be a strike which would have been brutal. As it was I think they are getting a 24% raise over some number of years that I don't know. And $11,000 signing bonuses right now.

Who is promising them this? Whom is it that promise backed by?

 

[WizardofSoda]

Who is promising them this? Whom is it that promise backed by?

President Biden was involved but I guess the railroad companies have to pay for it. And since all the railroads have to pay the same, they can tack on the cost to the rail shipping.

 

[Sexless incel]

russia is literally fucked. their entire country is gonna fall apart. the military was always the source of legitimacy for their regime. when the people learn moscow cant just "send in the tanks" they will revolt

World must be ready for Russia’s disintegration, US general says

The international community must prepare for the potential disintegration of Russia, Lieutenant General (Retired) Ben Hodges, former commander of United States Army Europe, wrote in an article for UK newspaper The Telegraph on Sept. 13.

news.yahoo.com

Fuck your mom faggot

 

[allDead]

lmao Russia is so fucking gay. Apparently Ukraine is roflstomping them