If you read my previous post, Thread 'Wishing Someone You Hate to Die Doesn’t Make Sense', you know I discussed a naturalist scenario not directly related to this topic, but which begs a discussion about naturalism (a belief that only natural laws/objects exist and no spiritual reality exists, a common belief for BPers)
What should be the obvious conclusion one would draw from naturalism would be to rope, which, for some reason, people don’t connect the dots on, intellectually or practically. If we are bowls of chemical soup in a world with no moral reality or life after death (which morality directs us toward), there’s no reason to keep going in this irredeemable shithole, especially considering there’s no Heaven to look forward to. There’s only the brutal, daily reasons we see to stop our suffering by ending our meaningless, soupy lives. Obviously I don’t advocate for roping, which is readily made clear from the fact I haven’t blown my fucking brains out yet.
I’m not here to try to convince anyone to believe in God or morality or religion, and I’m certainly not here to advocate roping, but I want to point out a line of reasoning that’s been bugging me for as long as I’ve been in BP circles.
I understand guys having trouble figuring out what they should do (or not do) or what religion they should follow (or not) once they discover God exists (or, let’s be honest, once they stop coping about a fact they already know to be true.) I completely understand, considering all the divergence of opinions and all the contradictions, real and imagined, that exist with religions and everything. However, to say there is no spiritual reality is foolish.
So, in conclusion, I see a lot of guys talk big about how there’s no God and nothing matters, etc. etc., yet complain about things being unfair (which is literally a moral assessment) and not even rope, which is an obvious conclusion to their ideas. I acknowledge that a lack of mental strength and available pain-free methods is an issue even for those intent on it, but, otherwise, continuing to live is an irrational, inconsistent course of action in a naturalist thinking system.
Inb4 someone calls me a hypocrite for being religious and BP’d: there is no conflict between my religion and the BP 98% of the time, and most people don’t even agree with the unqualified entirety of the BP anyway, much less understand it deeply jfl. Minor qualifications to some BP ideas make it perfectly align with the truth. Also, people don’t even realize how BP’d certain religions (mine especially) are because they are too focused on the believers/preachers than on the actual philosophical core of the religions.
Anyway, lmk what you think. BTW, please don’t rope, guys.
What should be the obvious conclusion one would draw from naturalism would be to rope, which, for some reason, people don’t connect the dots on, intellectually or practically. If we are bowls of chemical soup in a world with no moral reality or life after death (which morality directs us toward), there’s no reason to keep going in this irredeemable shithole, especially considering there’s no Heaven to look forward to. There’s only the brutal, daily reasons we see to stop our suffering by ending our meaningless, soupy lives. Obviously I don’t advocate for roping, which is readily made clear from the fact I haven’t blown my fucking brains out yet.
I’m not here to try to convince anyone to believe in God or morality or religion, and I’m certainly not here to advocate roping, but I want to point out a line of reasoning that’s been bugging me for as long as I’ve been in BP circles.
I understand guys having trouble figuring out what they should do (or not do) or what religion they should follow (or not) once they discover God exists (or, let’s be honest, once they stop coping about a fact they already know to be true.) I completely understand, considering all the divergence of opinions and all the contradictions, real and imagined, that exist with religions and everything. However, to say there is no spiritual reality is foolish.
So, in conclusion, I see a lot of guys talk big about how there’s no God and nothing matters, etc. etc., yet complain about things being unfair (which is literally a moral assessment) and not even rope, which is an obvious conclusion to their ideas. I acknowledge that a lack of mental strength and available pain-free methods is an issue even for those intent on it, but, otherwise, continuing to live is an irrational, inconsistent course of action in a naturalist thinking system.
Inb4 someone calls me a hypocrite for being religious and BP’d: there is no conflict between my religion and the BP 98% of the time, and most people don’t even agree with the unqualified entirety of the BP anyway, much less understand it deeply jfl. Minor qualifications to some BP ideas make it perfectly align with the truth. Also, people don’t even realize how BP’d certain religions (mine especially) are because they are too focused on the believers/preachers than on the actual philosophical core of the religions.
Anyway, lmk what you think. BTW, please don’t rope, guys.
