Serious Reminder: White genocide is the fault of women

[Maikowski]

If women would just lower their standards and marry their looksmatch the birthrate would still be at a healthy level. There would be no excuse for corporations to import slave labor from the 3rd world because there would be an abundance of young Whites willing to work and pay taxes.

These AmNats want you to believe the invisible hand of Jews is forcing womyn to chase Chad cock. They don't want you to believe your eyes and ears but rather find excuses for foid behaviour. They don't want marriage, with the sexual marketplace as rigged as it is there's never been a better time to marry a man, have his children, and contribute to global Aryan victory. They don't want that.

Blaming Jews is cope.
Blaming feminism is cope.

It's women. Always has been.

 

[ESL]

If women would just lower their standards and marry their looksmatch the birthrate would still be at a healthy level. There would be no excuse for corporations to important slave labor from the 3rd world because there would be an abundance of young Whites willing to work and pay taxes.

These AmNats want you to believe the invisible hand of Jews is forcing womyn to chase Chad cock. They don't want you to believe your eyes and ears but rather find excuses for foid behaviour. They don't want marriage, with the sexual marketplace as rigged as it is there's never been a better time to marry a man, have his children, and contribute to global Aryan victory. They don't want that.

Blaming Jews is cope.
Blaming feminism is cope.

It's women. Always has been.

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its in their nature to be such filthy whores, they even used to shove needles through their babies skull to kill them(because abortion was basically impossible back then, only post partum could they get rid of the infant)

 

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[FBI]

You say women should "just lower their standards" while calling it "cope" to blame feminism. That makes no sense. Feminism is exactly what allowed women to act as they do now. It gave them the power to choose more freely, to delay marriage, and to push for men above their "looksmatch."

This is also not something unique to White women. Fertility decline and family breakdown show up across groups. In fact, in the United States, White women have the lowest abortion rate compared to other groups, while Black women consistently have the highest.

As for Jewish influence, it is not invisible. Many Jewish intellectuals and financiers opposed European nationalism while supporting their own. Jewish groups have backed Israel's ethno-nationalism while lobbying against strong nationalist movements in Europe and America. The Frankfurt School argued against the family and authority structures that had supported European nations. Barbara Lerner Spectre said openly that Europe "must" become multicultural and that Jews would lead the way. Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi pushed racial mixing as the future of Europe, and he gained traction only after receiving funding from Jewish families like the Rothschilds and Warburgs. Nationalism for themselves, cosmopolitanism for everyone else.

So while I agree with you that White women are part of the problem, it is not just them. And when you say "blaming Jews is cope," I disagree.

 

[fang]

OP's idea of white nationalism is making white men work for corporations and pay taxes--hooking them up to HUWHITE porkwives--all at steady replicable levels for eternity

 

[Agrippa]

If women would just lower their standards and marry their looksmatch the birthrate would still be at a healthy level. There would be no excuse for corporations to important slave labor from the 3rd world because there would be an abundance of young Whites willing to work and pay taxes.

These AmNats want you to believe the invisible hand of Jews is forcing womyn to chase Chad cock. They don't want you to believe your eyes and ears but rather find excuses for foid behaviour. They don't want marriage, with the sexual marketplace as rigged as it is there's never been a better time to marry a man, have his children, and contribute to global Aryan victory. They don't want that.

Blaming Jews is cope.
Blaming feminism is cope.

It's women. Always has been.

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If you can control the women, then you can control the direction of procreation, and with that, you can then steer the fate of society entire — you can decide who gets to procreate and who doesn’t. Imagine if you could simply prevent kike women from creating more jews, and nigger women more niggers.

 

[Maikowski]

You say women should "just lower their standards" while calling it "cope" to blame feminism. That makes no sense. Feminism is exactly what allowed women to act as they do now. It gave them the power to choose more freely, to delay marriage, and to push for men above their "looksmatch."

This is also not something unique to White women. Fertility decline and family breakdown show up across groups. In fact, in the United States, White women have the lowest abortion rate compared to other groups, while Black women consistently have the highest.

As for Jewish influence, it is not invisible. Many Jewish intellectuals and financiers opposed European nationalism while supporting their own. Jewish groups have backed Israel's ethno-nationalism while lobbying against strong nationalist movements in Europe and America. The Frankfurt School argued against the family and authority structures that had supported European nations. Barbara Lerner Spectre said openly that Europe "must" become multicultural and that Jews would lead the way. Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi pushed racial mixing as the future of Europe, and he gained traction only after receiving funding from Jewish families like the Rothschilds and Warburgs. Nationalism for themselves, cosmopolitanism for everyone else.

So while I agree with you that White women are part of the problem, it is not just them. And when you say "blaming Jews is cope," I disagree.

Capitalism did all that, they make more money than they ever have in history. That's a fact. Now they can stay "independent" while men struggle to find jobs, male youth unemployment is 4% higher than female. Feminism just gave foids the option to work, it didn't force them. They go online and smear men all on their own free will.

Jews can't do shit, boomers have all the power and they sold out young men. Every year corporations push for higher immigration levels, more H1b visas, more students, more TFW and what do boomers do? They vote for lower taxes.

Any man steps out of line and talks of revolution and these same boomers will call you a fed or a glowie and smear you. It's a smear job.

 

[Maikowski]

OP's idea of white nationalism is making white men work for corporations and pay taxes--hooking them up to HUWHITE porkwives--all at steady replicable levels for eternity

Retarded strawman, if you followed me on here for even a while you'd know my idea of White revolution. I don't even call it White nationalism.

I want to work for corporations, I'm not interested in back breaking work for chump change like some 3rd worlder while foids get all the 100k+ a year jobs.

Men should raise their standards and date up, I've always said this.

The birth rate for Whites should be 7+ per woman, that's the normal historical birth rate for women in Roman civilization.

You're a faggot and brown.

 

[Agrippa]

Capitalism did all that, they make more money than they ever have in history. That's a fact. Now they can stay "independent" while men struggle to find jobs, male youth unemployment is 4% higher than female. Feminism just gave foids the option to work, it didn't force them. They go online and smear men all on their own free will.

Jews can't do shit, boomers have all the power and they sold out young men. Every year corporations push for higher immigration levels, more H1b visas, more students, more TFW and what do boomers do? They vote for lower taxes.

Any man steps out of line and talks of revolution and these same boomers will call you a fed or a glowie and smear you. It's a smear job.

The jews are behind the corporations that you’re talking about; the jews are behind the media that smears us; the jews were behind feminism; it’s the Zionist jews who blackmail our politicians using children and buy off all of our politicians (see AIPAC); it’s the jews that are behind the pornography industry; it’s the Jews that are behind the social programming (Hollywood and television); it’s the jews that are behind OnlyFans and basically all of the dating applications. It is absolutely the Zionist, capitalist jews that are behind our oppression and destruction. Are you a kike yourself?

 

[FBI]

Capitalism did all that, they make more money than they ever have in history. That's a fact. Now they can stay "independent" while men struggle to find jobs, male youth unemployment is 4% higher than female. Feminism just gave foids the option to work, it didn't force them. They go online and smear men all on their own free will.

Jews can't do shit, boomers have all the power and they sold out young men. Every year corporations push for higher immigration levels, more H1b visas, more students, more TFW and what do boomers do? They vote for lower taxes.

Any man steps out of line and talks of revolution and these same boomers will call you a fed or a glowie and smear you. It's a smear job.

You cannot just write feminism and Jewish influence out of the equation. Capitalism gave women more money, sure, but it was feminism that gave them the power to act on it. Without feminism changing laws and norms, the money alone would not have created the same results.

And saying Jews "can't do shit" is just false. They are a small share of the population but make up a huge share of billionaires, media heads, and academics. Jewish networks and nepotism keep them in those positions, and they have used that influence to push immigration and multiculturalism for decades.

Yes, corporations want cheap labor and boomers want lower taxes, and corporations push for mass immigration to get it, but Jews have been pushing mass immigration too, and not just for money.

 

[CosmicInjustice]

Only men care about these things. Women don’t give a fuck. They’d probably accept blame because they don’t care.

 

[Agrippa]

You cannot just write feminism and Jewish influence out of the equation. Capitalism gave women more money, sure, but it was feminism that gave them the power to act on it. Without feminism changing laws and norms, the money alone would not have created the same results.

And saying Jews "can't do shit" is just false. They are a small share of the population but make up a huge share of billionaires, media heads, and academics. Jewish networks and nepotism keep them in those positions, and they have used that influence to push immigration and multiculturalism for decades.

Yes, corporations want cheap labor and boomers want lower taxes, and corporations push for mass immigration to get it, but Jews have been pushing mass immigration too, and not just for money.

I can’t believe we still have to argue about this after everything that’s happened.

 

[lifesucksandyoudie]

If every society that's pozzed with feminist policies went extinct I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I don't really care what race or ethnicity they are. There were matrilineal societies during the neolithic but they turned out to be dead ends because no matrilineal culture ever advanced to the iron age on their own, let alone achieve industrialization. Foids are all pathologically incompetent failures and retards that will drive any society they have any marginal degree of influence or control over into extinction eventually. The collapsing birth rates prove this is undeniable.

 

[Spooky_Heejin]

Blaming Jews is cope.
Blaming feminism is cope.

White women are a big part to blame but you have to keep in mind that every single country that's accepted feminist ideology, their birth rates collapse too regardless if they're hispanics, blacks, Asians, etc.

 

[hatepilledandrich]

Inceldom discussed

 

[Maikowski]

their birth rates collapse too regardless if they're hispanics, blacks, Asians, etc.

That's all because of capitalism. Look at countries like Iran or Afghanistan where the birth rates are dropping. There's no feminism in those nations but there is capitalism and more money earned by foids = lower birthrates always.

Inceldom discussed

sorry did my anti woman thread upset you

If every society that's pozzed with feminist policies went extinct I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

yeah and guess what I'll also suffer. Nihilism is fake and gay

And saying Jews "can't do shit" is just false. They are a small share of the population but make up a huge share of billionaires, media heads, and academics. Jewish networks and nepotism keep them in those positions, and they have used that influence to push immigration and multiculturalism for decades.

and why haven't they been met with violence? Oh right because boomers support everything they do. They're just fulfilling a pre existing demand, if they weren't they would be met with force or state prosecution.

You need to think deeper than muh jews did it because who let them? Why were Jews ALLOWED to get into those positions in the first place?

You cannot just write feminism and Jewish influence out of the equation. Capitalism gave women more money, sure, but it was feminism that gave them the power to act on it. Without feminism changing laws and norms, the money alone would not have created the same results.

It's not as simple as "giving them more money." They are independent from the need to marry now, they do not marry because of their economic power.

Look at countries with zero feminism, those countries have anti woman laws and culture but yet the birth rates are in free fall. Countries like Iran, China, North Korea, Afghanistan. It's a global issue not just a problem with feminist countries.

 

[Maikowski]

The jews are behind the corporations that you’re talking about; the jews are behind the media that smears us; the jews were behind feminism; it’s the Zionist jews who blackmail our politicians using children and buy off all of our politicians (see AIPAC); it’s the jews that are behind the pornography industry; it’s the Jews that are behind the social programming (Hollywood and television); it’s the jews that are behind OnlyFans and basically all of the dating applications. It is absolutely the Zionist, capitalist jews that are behind our oppression and destruction. Are you a kike yourself?

Way to miss the point, dork. If you hid behind a table and watched some Jews fuck your sister then whose to blame? Why'd you let them? Why didn't you take action against them instead of cowering behind your computer screen? You're blaming Jews for behaving like Jews it's like blaming a wild lion for eating your family.

Jews can only thrive in a swamp. Our society is a swamp so the Jews all settled here.

 

[Maikowski]

 

[FBI]

and why haven't they been met with violence? Oh right because boomers support everything they do. They're just fulfilling a pre existing demand, if they weren't they would be met with force or state prosecution.

You need to think deeper than muh jews did it because who let them? Why were Jews ALLOWED to get into those positions in the first place?

Jews did not wait around for permission; they organized, networked, and pushed until they held those positions. The claim that they are simply "fulfilling demand" is laughable when they are the ones shaping the demand through media, academia, and finance. You do not get outsized control of those institutions by chance.

As for "why haven't they been met with violence," the answer is simple: once you control media, money, and the cultural narrative, there is no need to fear prosecution. You make the rules. You set the boundaries of speech, and anyone who steps outside them is destroyed socially, financially, or legally. That is not "boomers letting it happen."

So no, it is not just boomers. Boomers are guilty of complacency, but the people steering cultural and demographic change were not boomers as a whole. They were organized networks, and Jews were central to them.

 

[FBI]

It's not as simple as "giving them more money." They are independent from the need to marry now, they do not marry because of their economic power.

Look at countries with zero feminism, those countries have anti woman laws and culture but yet the birth rates are in free fall. Countries like Iran, China, North Korea, Afghanistan. It's a global issue not just a problem with feminist countries.

You are missing the point. Yes, women have more economic power, but that power is useless without the legal and cultural framework feminism built. In the past, even wealthy women were still tied to men through marriage and family because the norms demanded it. Feminism tore those restraints down. It turned money into independence. Without feminism, higher income alone would not have produced the same result.

And your examples are weak. Iran, China, North Korea, and Afghanistan are countries wrecked by sanctions, war, authoritarian control, and, in China's case, decades of the one-child policy. Their falling birthrates are the result of political and economic disasters, not proof that feminism is irrelevant.

 

[Agrippa]

Way to miss the point, dork. If you hid behind a table and watched some Jews fuck your sister then whose to blame? Why'd you let them? Why didn't you take action against them instead of cowering behind your computer screen? You're blaming Jews for behaving like Jews it's like blaming a wild lion for eating your family.

Jews can only thrive in a swamp. Our society is a swamp so the Jews all settled here.

Listen, I want to personally slit the throats of jewish children and sell them into slavery. Heil Hitler.

 

[SmhChan]

You are missing the point. Yes, women have more economic power, but that power is useless without the legal and cultural framework feminism built. In the past, even wealthy women were still tied to men through marriage and family because the norms demanded it. Feminism tore those restraints down. It turned money into independence. Without feminism, higher income alone would not have produced the same result.

And your examples are weak. Iran, China, North Korea, and Afghanistan are countries wrecked by sanctions, war, authoritarian control, and, in China's case, decades of the one-child policy. Their falling birthrates are the result of political and economic disasters, not proof that feminism is irrelevant.

First of all, foids tied themselves to men in the past because they had to rely on men more for security and stability. In the modern era of automation and globalisation, not so much.

Secondly, Afghanistan do have a high birthrate like a lot of African countries because they curb-stomped the fuck out of foids' social and political agencies. Obviously as a result, incurred a lot of sanctions from western soytards.

It's not just China: Japan and Korea have been going through the same shit since their foids entered workforce. We are just splitting hair over semantics at this point. Obviously it's implicitly prefaced with, "in a country where foids have equal rights." For examples, in a lot of third world or middle-east countries where foids' whoredom and their feministic policies are kept in check, the birthrates are still on a free fall because foids there have their economic independence.

 

[FBI]

First of all, foids tied themselves to men in the past because they had to rely on men more for security and stability. In the modern era of automation and globalisation, not so much.

Secondly, Afghanistan do have a high birthrate like a lot of African countries because they curb-stomped the fuck out of foids' social and political agencies. Obviously as a result, incurred a lot of sanctions from western soytards.

It's not just China: Japan and Korea have been going through the same shit since their foids entered workforce. We are just splitting hair over semantics at this point. Obviously it's implicitly prefaced with, "in a country where foids have equal rights." For examples, in a lot of third world or middle-east countries where foids' whoredom and their feministic policies are kept in check, the birthrates are on a free fall because foids there have their economic independence.

Women did not "tie themselves" to men out of pure choice. They were bound to men by law, culture, and expectation. Security and stability mattered, but so did the fact that divorce was rare, property rights were limited, and female independence was socially unacceptable. That is what feminism changed. Without that change, money alone would not have bought freedom.

And you undercut yourself on Afghanistan. Its higher birthrate (though it is still falling) is not because they "curb-stomped" women; it is because Afghanistan is an impoverished, rural society with little access to education, medicine, or contraception. High birthrates in Africa come from the same causes.

On Japan and Korea, you are right: their birthrates collapsed once women entered the workforce. But that collapse came from a mix of suffocating work culture, high cost of living, and delayed marriage. Women entered the workforce, yes, but it was feminism that normalized choosing work and independence over family. That is why, once given the option, many women took it.

You may call it "splitting hairs," but it matters. The decline in birthrates is not caused by one thing. It is capitalism, feminism, cultural change, and in many cases outside influence, all working together.

 

[Maikowski]

Jews did not wait around for permission; they organized, networked, and pushed until they held those positions. The claim that they are simply "fulfilling demand" is laughable when they are the ones shaping the demand through media, academia, and finance. You do not get outsized control of those institutions by chance.

As for "why haven't they been met with violence," the answer is simple: once you control media, money, and the cultural narrative, there is no need to fear prosecution. You make the rules. You set the boundaries of speech, and anyone who steps outside them is destroyed socially, financially, or legally. That is not "boomers letting it happen."

So no, it is not just boomers. Boomers are guilty of complacency, but the people steering cultural and demographic change were not boomers as a whole. They were organized networks, and Jews were central to them.

If you believe what the media says you're a fucking retard and deserve to be a slave. boomers are fools, they didn't care about the future and only gave a fuck about their home valuations and tax rates. Sat on their ass and whined about "socialism" because their taxes went up 0.1%. They've had decades to remove the ruling elite, there was no resistance except for a handful of William Pierces and James masons. The rest of your post is just excuse making.

Why were Jews allowed into media, money, and academia in the first place?

Jews are just a symptom of a much larger problem, they're not the root cause. The root cause is Christianity.

Iran, China, North Korea, and Afghanistan are countries wrecked by sanctions, war, authoritarian control

None of those things have to do with low birth rates lmao, those are things that increase the birth rate. You don't like my examples because the birth rate would still be dropping if there was no 3rd wave feminism.

The only thing that increases birth rates is female poverty and low education.

Women are still responsible for their own shit behaviour, it's not because "we let them." Fuck off with that shit.

 

[FBI]

Women are still responsible for their own shit behaviour, it's not because "we let them." Fuck off with that shit.

I am not exonerating women. Women are responsible for their own behavior, and I have said that repeatedly. What I am saying is that it is not just women. You wanted to put all of this on them and ignore the forces that gave them the freedom to act as they do.

None of those things have to do with low birth rates lmao, those are things that increase the birth rate. You don't like my examples because the birth rate would still be dropping if there was no 3rd wave feminism.

Your point about Afghanistan, Iran, or North Korea is already answered in my reply to SmhChan, so I will not repeat myself here. But I will say that "None of those things have to do with low birth rates lmao, those are things that increase the birth rate" is not correct. War, sanctions, and authoritarian control create unstable economies and worse living conditions, which give people more reason not to have children. If you are worried about survival, employment, or basic security, you are less likely to start a family, not more.

boomers are fools, they didn't care about the future and only gave a fuck about their home valuations and tax rates. Sat on their ass and whined about "socialism" because their taxes went up 0.1%.

You are giving boomers far too much credit. Yes, they were complacent and self-interested, but they were not the ones driving cultural and institutional change. They did not control the media, academia, or finance, and they were not drafting the policies or shaping the narratives that normalized feminism or mass immigration. At most, they went along with it.

Why were Jews allowed into media, money, and academia in the first place?

Jews are just a symptom of a much larger problem, they're not the root cause. The root cause is Christianity.

As I already said, Jews did not wait for permission. They networked, funded each other, and forced their way into those positions. Once there, they set the boundaries of acceptable thought. You can argue that Christianity made Europeans more vulnerable, fine, but you cannot deny the role Jews played in steering culture away from nationalism while protecting their own.

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At first you said it is only women, now you say it is capitalism and boomers as well. So even you admit it is not just women. On that point we can agree. The reality is not one cause but several overlapping forces working together.

 

[SmhChan]

Women did not "tie themselves" to men out of pure choice. They were bound to men by law, culture, and expectation. Security and stability mattered, but so did the fact that divorce was rare, property rights were limited, and female independence was socially unacceptable. That is what feminism changed. Without that change, money alone would not have bought freedom.

Foids voluntarily gave up on divorce, property rights, "female independence" etc. for security and stability. Those things came with their own sets of responsibilities that'd have to carry the burden of by themselves in the absence of modern conveniences and automations. Given how unsafe and unstable the world used to be back then, those things barely crossed their minds.

And you undercut yourself on Afghanistan. Its higher birthrate (though it is still falling) is not because they "curb-stomped" women; it is because Afghanistan is an impoverished, rural society with little access to education, medicine, or contraception. High birthrates in Africa come from the same causes.

Not sure about that. Afghanistan has good ties with India and continues to receive aid from them. I know this because I'm from India. There are far bigger rural shitholes in India. Some have low birthrates and some moderately high. High birthrates in Afghanistan or those African countries are caused by purely ideological reasons.

On Japan and Korea, you are right: their birthrates collapsed once women entered the workforce. But that collapse came from a mix of suffocating work culture, high cost of living, and delayed marriage. Women entered the workforce, yes, but it was feminism that normalized choosing work and independence over family. That is why, once given the option, many women took it.

The high cost of living, "work culture", and delayed marriage, all of those were largely caused by foids entering and doubling the workforce "overnight". It was an incredibly good deal for the capitalists. For foids, it was as good if not better. They could choose between working "comfy office jobs" and monkey-branching all while benefiting from men's collective efforts in building and maintaining the modern conveniences without giving anything in return.

Feminism didn't normalize anything. It was already hardcoded in foids' brains. In fact, foids protested against working when they had to work in factories during industrial revolution. Again, it's not so much about work or independence, more about them making men slave for them, which they have achieved successfully with modernity.

I suppose your point is capitalism, jews, cultural changes, and feminism influenced foids, and my point is those things merely facilitated them.

 

[antisocialcel]

Everything bad is women's fault!

 

[FBI]

Foids voluntarily gave up on divorce, property rights, "female independence" etc. for security and stability. Those things came with their own sets of responsibilities that'd have to carry the burden of by themselves in the absence of modern conveniences and automations. Given how unsafe and unstable the world used to be back then, those things barely crossed their minds.

On your first point: women did not "voluntarily" give up divorce, property rights, or independence for security. Those things were not available to them in the first place. Under coverture laws, a married woman had no legal identity apart from her husband. Divorce was rare, property rights were minimal, and society made independence unacceptable. Security mattered, but women were bound by law and custom regardless. In some ways, that old order was far more stable than what we have now.

Not sure about that. Afghanistan has good ties with India and continues to receive aid from them. I know this because I'm from India. There are far bigger rural shitholes in India. Some have low birthrates and some moderately high. High birthrates in Afghanistan or those African countries are caused by purely ideological reasons.

On Afghanistan and Africa, I disagree that high birthrates are "purely ideological." Poor, rural, and uneducated societies tend to produce more children because children serve as labor, because child mortality is higher, and because contraception and medicine are limited. Ideology reinforces the pattern, but poverty and lack of education drive it just as much. You say Afghanistan receives aid from India, but the country is still poor. The same is true in Africa. Billions in aid have been sent there for decades, yet corruption and mismanagement keep large parts of the population in poverty.

The high cost of living, "work culture", and delayed marriage, all of those were largely caused by foids entering and doubling the workforce "overnight". It was an incredibly good deal for the capitalists. For foids, it was as good if not better. They could choose between working "comfy office jobs" and monkey-branching all while benefiting from men's collective efforts in building and maintaining the modern conveniences without giving anything in return.

I already agreed with you that women entering the workforce had an effect. At this point, arguing further really would be splitting hairs, so I will leave it there.

Feminism didn't normalize anything. It was already hardcoded in foids' brains. In fact, foids protested against working when they had to work in factories during industrial revolution. Again, it's not so much about work or independence, more about them making men slave for them, which they have achieved successfully with modernity.

On feminism itself, I reject your claim that it "normalized nothing." Feminism normalized divorce, sexual liberation, and the rejection of family roles that had once been taken for granted. Mid-century America showed this clearly, when women complained of being "unfulfilled" as housewives while their husbands worked long hours. I wrote about this here:

Routine defined the era. And it defined both sexes. Life for most was not thrilling. It was repetition. The man woke up early, worked long, and came home tired. There was little glamour, little recognition. And when he walked through that door, he didn't find respite. He found a wife who said she was unfulfilled. That she needed more. More than what? More than safety? More than leisure? More than a life free of physical risk? Ordinary life, for her, was not enough. But it wasn't enough for him either. That's the nature of ordinary life. It rarely is.

I agree that this restlessness is, so to speak, "hardwired" into women. Nothing is ever enough. They want freedom without responsibility and leisure without boredom. But it was feminism that enabled this. It gave cultural permission for those instincts to run unchecked.

I suppose your point is capitalism, jews, cultural changes, and feminism influenced foids, and my point is those things merely facilitated them.

I think we actually agree. My view is that feminism, capitalism, cultural change, and organized Jewish influence shaped women's behavior. Your view is that these forces only allowed women to act on what they already wanted. Both can be true at the same time.

 

[SmhChan]

On Afghanistan and Africa, I disagree that high birthrates are "purely ideological." Poor, rural, and uneducated societies tend to produce more children because children serve as labor, because child mortality is higher, and because contraception and medicine are limited. Ideology reinforces the pattern, but poverty and lack of education drive it just as much. You say Afghanistan receives aid from India, but the country is still poor. The same is true in Africa. Billions in aid have been sent there for decades, yet corruption and mismanagement keep large parts of the population in poverty.

Check out the comparison table. The birthrates in more than half the provinces have gone up. It's defo ideological and very irresponsibly cruel too. As a curry, our insanely high population, caused by high birthrates before this millennia, is the one of the, if not the biggest, sources of our plights. Honestly, this is the one thing about these backward patriarchal societies that ticks me the fuck off. If they have been receiving billions in aid, I'm sure they're not lacking in the contraception department.

I think we actually agree. My view is that feminism, capitalism, cultural change, and organized Jewish influence shaped women's behavior. Your view is that these forces only allowed women to act on what they already wanted. Both can be true at the same time.

Yeah! We do. You raised good points with the "boredom" aspect. Feminists slandered the luxurious boredom by comparing it with fucking concentration camps. JFL. I guess at this point, it doesn't matter whether foids were always like this or not. My resolve in wanting to see them suffer wouldn't be wavered regardless.

 

[FBI]

Check out the comparison table. The birthrates in more than half the provinces have gone up. It's defo ideological and very irresponsibly cruel too. As a curry, our insanely high population, caused by high birthrates before this millennia, is the one of the, if not the biggest, sources of our plights. Honestly, this is the one thing about these backward patriarchal societies that ticks me the fuck off. If they have been receiving billions in aid, I'm sure they're not lacking in the contraception department.

I looked at that table and I see what you mean, but the idea that "they get billions in aid, so they must not lack contraception" is not quite right. A lot of that money never reaches ordinary people. It gets eaten up by corruption, local warlords, or bureaucracy. You can dump billions into a country, but if the infrastructure is broken and the government is corrupt, most of it will vanish long before it ever buys clinics, medicine, or contraceptives for rural families. That is what I meant by mismanagement.

Anyway, it looks like we have more or less come to an agreement here. Good discussion.

 

[Retardfuel]

If we don't remove female rights it's over

 

[underballer]

Nah it’s white mens fault for mixing with noodle whores

 

[Kamanbert]

Imo the biggest blow to any community outside of sheer genocide or demographic replacement is the death of patriarchy — the former being somewhat an underlying condition of the later.

Male authority and gender roles therefore the patriarchy was the pilar of everything that wasn't a purely individualistic endeavor : only stable and numerous families as a widespread social norm could create a somewhat natural and organic shared sense of the collective (unlike under communism or shit which was artificial). It was a model intergenerational and fertile enough to make it relevant on a societal scale and make people feel like one big family to some extent. Not to even mention the social harmony it would bring like men not competing for women to an insane degree or the genders not being at each others throat like they are today. Good job retards.

It seems obvious by just looking at the evolution of whites and blacks since the 60's to now. But there's no academia to study it cause it's in the grasp of feminists and leftists of all kind. Funny how such an important and obvious anthropological change gets ignored like it was nothing.

 

[Kamanbert]

Whenever i see a feminist say something about capitalism, individualism, etc, and conflating it with muh patriarchy, i always facepalm. There's nothing patriarchal about this type of individualism you dumb cunt. This is YOUR world of empowered women, single moms, broken homes, and dumb worldliness over seriousness. Go sing your feminist anthem or something somewhere else.

 

[Kamanbert]

You may call it "splitting hairs," but it matters. The decline in birthrates is not caused by one thing. It is capitalism, feminism, cultural change, and in many cases outside influence, all working together.

 

[garness]

If women would just lower their standards and marry their looksmatch the birthrate would still be at a healthy level. There would be no excuse for corporations to import slave labor from the 3rd world because there would be an abundance of young Whites willing to work and pay taxes.

These AmNats want you to believe the invisible hand of Jews is forcing womyn to chase Chad cock. They don't want you to believe your eyes and ears but rather find excuses for foid behaviour. They don't want marriage, with the sexual marketplace as rigged as it is there's never been a better time to marry a man, have his children, and contribute to global Aryan victory. They don't want that.

Blaming Jews is cope.
Blaming feminism is cope.

It's women. Always has been.

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it amazes me that mayos will literally defend and simp for their own whores whilst they are probably getting gang baged by ivan and tyrone the irony of the "white" race amazes me

 

[Kamanbert]

Honestly, this is the one thing about these backward patriarchal societies that ticks me the fuck off.

I think other factors easily eclipse patriarchy/feminism when it comes to fertility. Africa is well know for being crypto matriarchal even to this day and yet look at the birthrates of countries like Congo. What feminism (alongside ireligiosity etc) does first and foremost is destroying social harmony, although it probably plays in a role in the demographics not being above replacement level, guess it's kinda like the nail in the coffin.

 

[Maikowski]

War, sanctions, and authoritarian control create unstable economies and worse living conditions, which give people more reason not to have children.

THAT'S NOT THE REASON FOIDS AREN'T HAVING CHILDREN. Worse living conditions INCREASE the birth rate, foids will stop marrying and giving birth when times are good. Foids don't need "reasons not to have children," they don't have children because they can't get Chad and can get away with it.

If you are worried about survival, employment, or basic security, you are less likely to start a family, not more.

No you aren't, foids have children in shithole countries at much higher rates. What employment opportunities are there in Africa?

Saudi Arabia debunks your bullshit, it's a rich country where women can't even drive and has a declining birth rate. No 3rd wave feminism in Saudi Arabia, the living standards have improved yet births are down.

 

[Maikowski]

As I already said, Jews did not wait for permission. They networked, funded each other, and forced their way into those positions. Once there, they set the boundaries of acceptable thought. You can argue that Christianity made Europeans more vulnerable, fine, but you cannot deny the role Jews played in steering culture away from nationalism while protecting their own.

They were implicitly given permission by being allowed into the country. All it would take is turning the ships around and no Jews in the US. That's what Japan did.

 

[FBI]

THAT'S NOT THE REASON FOIDS AREN'T HAVING CHILDREN. Worse living conditions INCREASE the birth rate, foids will stop marrying and giving birth when times are good. Foids don't need "reasons not to have children," they don't have children because they can't get Chad and can get away with it.

High fertility in poor societies does not mean that "worse conditions increase birthrates." It means that in rural, agrarian settings, children are economic assets. They provide labor, they support parents in old age, and high mortality means more are born. Once you urbanize, children turn into an economic burden, costly to raise, educate, and house. That is why modernization consistently lowers fertility, regardless of whether women can or cannot get "Chad."

No you aren't, foids have children in shithole countries at much higher rates. What employment opportunities are there in Africa?

This is exactly the point. In rural Africa, children are not seen as costs but as assets: they work in the fields, they provide labor, and they replace the many who die young. That dynamic keeps fertility high. But as education, contraception, and urban life spread, fertility across Africa is dropping too, only on a lag compared to the West or the Gulf.

Saudi Arabia debunks your bullshit, it's a rich country where women can't even drive and has a declining birth rate. No 3rd wave feminism in Saudi Arabia, the living standards have improved yet births are down.

Saudi Arabia's decline proves my point. Fertility stayed high when the country was poor and unstable. It collapsed after oil wealth, modernization, and urbanization reshaped daily life. As education expanded, as women entered schools and workplaces, and as families moved to cities, fertility dropped. This happens even without Western-style feminism.

 

[FBI]

They were implicitly given permission by being allowed into the country. All it would take is turning the ships around and no Jews in the US. That's what Japan did.

Simply "turning the ships around" was never going to happen in America. Jews entered through the same ports and processes as millions of other immigrants, and once inside, they exploited the freedoms of speech, press, and association to build networks and consolidate influence. Japan kept them out because it was a closed society with a homogenous identity. America was not. It was a pluralistic republic with open borders in practice for most of its early history.

 

[Eunuch]

I'm white and I don't care about white genocide.

Modern life is an interracial orgy if you're good looking and if you're ugly without money, youre subaltern no matter what race you are

 

[Maikowski]

Simply "turning the ships around" was never going to happen in America. Jews entered through the same ports and processes as millions of other immigrants, and once inside, they exploited the freedoms of speech, press, and association to build networks and consolidate influence. Japan kept them out because it was a closed society with a homogenous identity. America was not. It was a pluralistic republic with open borders in practice for most of its early history.

Bullshit. You look like a Jew you get put on the next ship home.

High fertility in poor societies does not mean that "worse conditions increase birthrates." It means that in rural, agrarian settings, children are economic assets. They provide labor, they support parents in old age, and high mortality means more are born. Once you urbanize, children turn into an economic burden, costly to raise, educate, and house. That is why modernization consistently lowers fertility, regardless of whether women can or cannot get "Chad."

Wrong, poor nations have a labour surplus. They don't need more children or child labour when their adults can't even get jobs.

Saudi Arabia's decline proves my point. Fertility stayed high when the country was poor and unstable. It collapsed after oil wealth, modernization, and urbanization reshaped daily life. As education expanded, as women entered schools and workplaces, and as families moved to cities, fertility dropped. This happens even without Western-style feminism.

That doesn't prove your point, that proves MY point. Seriously I feel like I'm arguing with a bot.

Your posts are shit I can read on 4chan, blame Jews all day every day while taking no agency. Very feminine way of thinking. Jews were allowed into the country because Christians worship Jews because their bible tells them to. Capitalism empowers women through cushy employment and inherited wealth and empowered women lower birth rates. It's not hard to understand.

Female sexual selection breeds dorks and weak men, men who can't overthrow tyrants. So women are to blame.

 

[FBI]

Bullshit. You look like a Jew you get put on the next ship home.

America did not run like that. Jews came in through Ellis Island along with Italians, Poles, Germans, and every other group. There was no mass deportation of Jews simply for "looking Jewish." Once inside, they used American freedoms to build networks.

Wrong, poor nations have a labour surplus. They don't need more children or child labour when their adults can't even get jobs.

You are confusing modern unemployment with agrarian society. In rural economies, children are still labor, whether in the fields or the household. More importantly, in places with high infant and child mortality, people have more children because many will die young. This is why fertility is high in poor, agrarian societies and why it falls once you urbanize and survival improves.

That doesn't prove your point, that proves MY point. Seriously I feel like I'm arguing with a bot.

No, it proves mine. Fertility in Saudi Arabia stayed high when the country was poor and unstable, but collapsed once it modernized. If bad conditions really caused higher birth rates, you would expect the opposite trend. Instead, the consistent pattern is that urbanization, education, and modernization drive fertility down.

Your posts are shit I can read on 4chan, blame Jews all day every day while taking no agency. Very feminine way of thinking. Jews were allowed into the country because Christians worship Jews because their bible tells them to. Capitalism empowers women through cushy employment and inherited wealth and empowered women lower birth rates. It's not hard to understand.

You are not even reading what I am saying. I never said it was only Jews. I have said repeatedly it is women, Jews, capitalism, and cultural change together. You keep changing your line: first it was only women, then it was capitalism, now it is Christianity too. Fine, we can agree it is not one cause but many.

 

[soft]

They were implicitly given permission by being allowed into the country. All it would take is turning the ships around and no Jews in the US. That's what Japan did.

But Japan has declining birth rate too, despite not having Jews. To the point where they are taking in immigrants to compensate.

 

[Maikowski]

But Japan has declining birth rate too, despite not having Jews. To the point where they are taking in immigrants to compensate.

I know they have declining birth rate, I said Jews are not responsible for it, women are. Did you even read the thread

 

[Maikowski]

Fertility in Saudi Arabia stayed high when the country was poor and unstable, but collapsed once it modernized. If bad conditions really caused higher birth rates, you would expect the opposite trend. Instead, the consistent pattern is that urbanization, education, and modernization drive fertility down.

Just read what you wrote retard. Improving conditions lowered the birth rate. Nigga go back to highschool

 

[Maikowski]

You are confusing modern unemployment with agrarian society. In rural economies, children are still labor, whether in the fields or the household. More importantly, in places with high infant and child mortality, people have more children because many will die young. This is why fertility is high in poor, agrarian societies and why it falls once you urbanize and survival improves.

Libtard bollocks, sure is reddit in here

The birth rate is high in Africa because women are poor as shit. In rural areas the only jobs are back breaking subsistence farming which women don't want to do

You are not even reading what I am saying. I never said it was only Jews. I have said repeatedly it is women, Jews, capitalism, and cultural change together. You keep changing your line: first it was only women, then it was capitalism, now it is Christianity too. Fine, we can agree it is not one cause but many.

It's not jews because mind control doesn't exist.

America did not run like that. Jews came in through Ellis Island along with Italians, Poles, Germans, and every other group.

I don't care about that, you have Jews in your country you kick them out. America let them stay that's a moral failing.

There was no mass deportation of Jews simply for "looking Jewish."

Who the fuck said there was?

 

[FBI]

Just read what you wrote retard. Improving conditions lowered the birth rate. Nigga go back to highschool

Yes, improving conditions lowered the birth rate. That is exactly what I said. Fertility stayed high in poverty and instability, but when modernization, education, and urbanization came, it collapsed. What are you trying to get at?