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I know some fear that incels who don't "unconditionally" hate women might end up as beta bux when they do show interest
I'm surprised any of you were actually honest enough to admit to this, and that's the sad part about a lot of incels on this forum. I know for a fact many are just going to end up as betabuxx and think of all of their time here as some kind of "embarrassing phase" that they never talk about

Many incels are really just biding their time, hoping and waiting to find out if they will be an exception to the black pill

It doesn't makes it hotter. Maybe it makes you a masochist or some weird coper.
I think you need to google masochist, you seem to have a personal definition

If I am fucking a woman with a look of disgust on her face how is that not sadism?

How is that masochism?

You guys are using some seriously mental gymnastics lol

You keeping yourself sex starved and denying yourself the chance to experience sex is ironically the act of masochism

Plus you are litreally giving a whore money how are you the one who gains the most here.
If you feed a pig scraps to fatten it up so then you can later feast on it, how is that not a good trade off?

Why do you think I'm a "wealthmaxxer"?. Nobody is saying be a wage cuck and spend all your money to fuck whores, there are priorities. I only paid a whore once just to lose my virginity and I'm not going back to do it again until I'm "wealthmaxxed"

If a guy spends close to a million on a lamborghini retards like you will be like "cool car bro" and you wouldn't consider it a waste of money at all, even though its just a hunk of metal that he's going to park in a garage and barely ever drive

But me covering the tab for my sex life (from when I'm wealthmaxxed till the day I die) won't even come up to half, or even a quarter of the price of that car and its something I'll be able to enjoy every week and actively benefit from, but for some reason its not a good purchase

You guys aren't thinking about this rationally, nobody is telling broke guys to spend their money on sex (which seems to be the lie that gets spread around), but seeing as you can die at any moment, maybe you should try sex at least once so you don't die a virgin

And you can't just go on making stupid analogies to compare things
Who decided you are the arbiter of what analogies are stupid or not? :feelsEhh:

The analogy fits pretty well, you just don't like that it fits

You idiots don't apply your flawed "best or nothing" logic to anything else in life, you apply it ONLY TO SEX

You'll live in a crappy apartment instead of remain homeless

You'll work a crappy minimum wage job instead of remain jobless

You'll eat whatever is available if you are hungry instead of starving

The fact that someone lives in a mansion, has a 6 figure job where they barely do anything, and eats at only 5 star restaurants, isn't going to make you choose the negative option of the things listed above, because when it comes to these things you can be rational, but when it comes to sex all logic goes out the window

Tbh if all you want is meaningless sex
No such thing as "meaningful sex" or "meaningless sex", sex is sex, meaning is something humans project onto things

SeX Is A NEeD So JUSt BANg A StD FILLeD COKEd UPP SHEbOOn!!1
She was a tall thick latina actually, the irony of you saying she was coked up though, a lot of you guys sound like you are actually on meds
 
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Doesn't that make things easier? You can just wage and see escorts for sex.
He's coping, guys like that "revere" women (MOST incels on this site do, just listen to them talk), they one warm hug away from renouncing the black pill lol

All it would take is a few positive experiences for most incels on this forum to renounce the black pill, because they don't really believe in the black pill, they are bandwagonists here to bide their time until they finally get lucky enough to "ascend"

This is why I doubt any incel who speaks as if he still has intentions of "ascending" because it means he is trying to "play both sides", one foot on the normie path in life and one foot on the incel path, but they are really really hoping that normie path pans out lol
 
Doesn't that make things easier? You can just wage and see escorts for sex.
:feelsdevil:
He's coping, guys like that "revere" women (MOST incels on this site do, just listen to them talk), they one warm hug away from renouncing the black pill lol

All it would take is a few positive experiences for most incels on this forum to renounce the black pill, because they don't really believe in the black pill, they are bandwagonists here to bide their time until they finally get lucky enough to "ascend"

This is why I doubt any incel who speaks as if he still has intentions of "ascending" because it means he is trying to "play both sides", one foot on the normie path in life and one foot on the incel path, but they are really really hoping that normie path pans out lol
Completely baseless assumption. I merely pointed out that some guys still have hope and I just wanted to remind them what would happen if they ascended without any experiences
 
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JFL at anime watching retatds who call men who use the oldest business in the world cucks.
Better men than you have fucked prostitutes and seen no problem with it.
I don't many of these guys know that it was a norm for kings and lords to frequently visit prostitutes

Heck in some countries kings had entire troupes of prostitutes assigned solely to satisfy their needs (concubines)

Prostitution is only this big taboo today, but its not the worlds oldest profession for nothing

But nah, us mere peasants must live at a "higher standard" than kings and lords of the past lol

The egos some incels have always amazes me, how can someone think so highly of themselves and then call themselves "subhuman" in the same breath, they want to have it both ways

Completely baseless assumption. I merely pointed out that some guys still have hope and I just wanted to remind them what would happen if they ascended without any experiences
Oh yeah, you pointed all of that out by simply saying "I hate w*men" in this thread and nothing else

Makes perfect sense
 
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Oh yeah, you pointed all of that out by simply saying "I hate w*men" in this thread and nothing else

Makes perfect sense
Back in ancient Rome, peasants could fuck young prime slave whores for the equivalent of one glass of wine/one loaf of bread. Fucking whores was kinda normal for the vast majority of human history. Saying that escortmaxxing contributes to the pussy hyperinflation is simply wrong. Simping on social media (and even irl) is definitely responsible for that.

Imo, every incel should decide for himself, if he wants to escortmaxx or not. Both sides have solid arguments for or against whoremaxxing and everybody has to decide if the positives aspects outweigh the negative aspects.

Another point: Escortmaxxing as a 20+ yo virgin is almost mandatory. If you ascended (highly unlikely) and didn't perform, she wouldn't be interested in dating you any longer.

Anime and hentai is based. If I remember correctly, even Ronaldo fucked an escort

I hate w*men

:feelsdevil:

Completely baseless assumption. I merely pointed out that some guys still have hope and I just wanted to remind them what would happen if they ascended without any experiences
 
@Notorious Inkler
I didn't even notice there were 2 pages tbh, my bad
 
if it hasn’t clicked with you who i’m talking about, it’s BlkPillPres

This guys is fucking stupid with a capital S. He constantly defends escortcelling and thinks that it is this great thing that if incels don’t do it they are complaining for no reason and “missing out”.

One could argue escortceling borders on SIMPing, it's hard to say since "idolizing" and "mediocre" are subjective ideas, it's hard to specifically say where idoliatry and mediocrity begin.

One could also argue that all forms of SIMPing are inherently "cucked" because you are a victim of deception (perhaps self-deception rather than the foid's, or both) regarding the foid's worth.

So NTGE in the context of saying escortcels are cucked, I think your argument is basically it is cuckoldry to think it is a "great thing" because you believe it not to be a "great thing" ?

I guess the problem here is we might be thinking of the meaning of 'great' in different degrees.

For example I might call a pizza pocket that costs $1 a "great" snack, but I'm not idolizing the pizza pocket as I'm still paying a somewhat low/fair price for it.

I'm sure for ricecels who get way more utility/calories out of a dollar via their ricecooker I seem like a low-IQ cuck simping over pizza pockets though, and I aspire to embrace their criticism and wisdom : please give me cooking tips frens

So personally OP whether this is cucked-SIMPing or a reasonable purchase of goods is ultimately a factor of what price you're paying.

If I were to say "escorts are great, it only costs me 5 dollars for a blowjob from an attractive undiseased girl in her 20s" I don't really think it would be cucked/simping because that is probably a fair price for compensating someone for their time for minimum wage in a low-skill field. If min wage is 15/hour then she's probably spending less than 20 minutes to blow, so it's still slightly overpriced, but there should be SOME flexiblity here, like she needs time to gargle between blowjobs with other men and drive to different clients. Actually, taking that into consideration, 10 dollars per coom would be fair, I'd be up for that if it were legal.

OTOH it is completely cucked/overpriced and too worshipful of foids to do shit like pay 500-1000 per coom instead of 5-10

50-100 is sort of a gray area, I realize there's some flexibility here for skill of BJ and how attractive girl is, polite, etc.
Personally I think I'd be very hesitant to part with that much but I'm a poorcel, I can see how richcels who will do shit like leave 50-dollar tips at their 200-plate restaurants would be willing to pay that sort of fee.

@WawelDragon1683 and @Mainländer can confirm, it’s an absolutely shit experience. Not only are you enabling the whore industry but you are sticking your dick into a cunt that has so much dried coom in it already that you are pretty much committing gay sex acts of your own.
In theory there could be ways to diminish this like requiring a whore let you aim a strong narrow stream of hot water from the shower up there to douche.

Then again I'm not really sure how viscous/water-resistant cum is. Like how long would cum need to soak in hot water for it to just fall off?


both these users have also confirmed that the actual sex is so humiliating and unsatisfying that jacking off is the better option.
Sounds like a false dichotomy, we should all be taking the third option of fucking our own personal onatorso.
Government should buy free onatorsos to all males, you would save money in the long run due to increased health and decreased violence.

i can tell you one thing for sure, it’s the complete polar opposite of the loving sex chad had with his JB girlfriend. It’s never ever going to be like that. No shit, right? But it doesn’t even try to come close. The whores are filthy; nasty, and full of STDs
I'm sure if I ever saw a whore I would bluepill simp oneitis for her and imagine that she is one of the rare whore minorities without STDs and who if she had any clients before me, gave them all up to see me exclusively.

you’re also giving these whores money. You’re encouraging them to do this shit. Imagine if you somehow ascended but your daughter ended up doing this shit and there was nothing you could do to stop her. You literally birthed a proud whore. How would that feel?
TBH it would depends on the standards of her business practice.

If you are telling me to hate my hypothetical daughter for giving YOU a blowjob for example, then you're basically asking me to hate you.
If I actually like you then this shouldn't bother me nearly so much.

Better Incel than Cuck. @Lookscel
This statement really doesn't make sense.

If you think escortcels are no longer celibates (due to having sex, and thus no longer incels) and you are choosing not to see escorts then your celibacy is obviously voluntary in that regard.

If you think escortcels are still celibate (due to lacking loving relationship, and thus still incels) then you would be BOTH a cuck and an incel, not either/or

Would be interesting if we knew what %s of cucks are incels and what % of incels are cucks. There is a Venn Diagram waiting to be drawn.
 
@Notorious Inkler
I didn't even notice there were 2 pages tbh, my bad
Btw: Look up the etymology of the word girlfriend or boyfriend. Very interesting
 
Btw: Look up the etymology of the word girlfriend or boyfriend. Very interesting
Interesting indeed, JFL at "she-friend" being used in the 17th century for a man claiming a "female friend"

The english language is a weird one, there's a lot of "meta" things about it
 
Interesting indeed, JFL at "she-friend" being used in the 17th century for a man claiming a "female friend"

The english language is a weird one, there's a lot of "meta" things about it
This term was first used in the 1920s. The only two words back then to describe a romantic/sexual relationship with a hole was either whore or wife.
 
The only thing I have to add for now is that sex is not a human need as you will not die without ever having it.

Actual human needs are water and food which we literally cannot live without.

Sex is only a powerful want.:feelsUgh:
 
No shit you have no choice.

but you literally have multiple guys here telling you it’s NOT WORTH IT, yet just because one cuck here writes bullshit paragraph after paragraph about why his cuckdom is justified, he’s the one who is correct? What a load of shit
Idk don't rly have a strong opinion on this
 
You are technically cucking someone if you are escortceling.
Most escorts have boyfriends (some also acting as their pimps), so yes.

Escorts never made sense to me. You would pay for sex,
Yes.

but then protest that women are unfaithful. Does this make sense?
I don't. I do not care that much if a foid is unfaithful. I mean she's definitely not unfaithful to me, I have never been in a relationship, nor will I ever be. How a male who is sexually and romantically more successful than me gets cucked by his foid is none of my business.
 
I'll be like - "That just makes it hotter" lol

Ironically aren't you the guys that claim you hate women so much, so isn't "hate fucking" a woman who shows genuine disdain towards you killing two birds with one stone? (feeling of revenge and sexual satisfaction)
Unironically that sounds hot asf. Hate fucking an escort has to be on my bucket list before I gtfo from this world. How do you find an escort that is disgusted by you but still wants to fuck you? Some will just pretend they like it, well most actually because they want you to come back and pay more.
 
Unironically that sounds hot asf. Hate fucking an escort has to be on my bucket list before I gtfo from this world. How do you find an escort that is disgusted by you but still wants to fuck you? Some will just pretend they like it, well most actually because they want you to come back and pay more.
Tell her that's your fetish
 
I'm also against escortcelling and i think it would suck.
 
Unironically that sounds hot asf. Hate fucking an escort has to be on my bucket list before I gtfo from this world. How do you find an escort that is disgusted by you but still wants to fuck you? Some will just pretend they like it, well most actually because they want you to come back and pay more.
I would really just tell the whore that she doesn't have to pretend and fake moan, just act naturally, if you feel nothing then don't respond

That's really the only way you are going to get good at anything related to sex

If every woman you fuck is faking, you're never going to know what to do

The easiest way to get the "disgusted" response is to do something we don't know how to do yet, make a woman's body feel sexual pleasure, regardless of her attraction to you

Its going to take trial and error to figure that out and if a whore is fake moaning you aren't going to be able to pick up on any signs

This shit is on my bucket list too, the truth is you won't see that real look of shame and disgust until you can make a whore have an involuntary orgasm, from there on she won't be able to pretend, the look will come out whether she wants it to or not

Tell her that's your fetish
You wouldn't enjoy it then because it isn't a genuine response

No that's not real then it's just a larp
This
 
Lol he isn't a fakecel. He's a giga autist with a superiority complex. A person who lacks self awareness but unrionically believes he knows more than anyone here.

He offers nothing but blatant narcissism to the forum, and is indeed a cuck, but he most definitely belongs here.

If I didn't know better I'd believe he was an elaborate troll like MENSA a few months ago. But he genuinely is that autistic.
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Lol he isn't a fakecel. He's a giga autist with a superiority complex. A person who lacks self awareness but unrionically believes he knows more than anyone here.

He offers nothing but blatant narcissism to the forum, and is indeed a cuck, but he most definitely belongs here.

If I didn't know better I'd believe he was an elaborate troll like MENSA a few months ago. But he genuinely is that autistic.
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My dude, you spend your time spamming the site with gorilla images to create some kind of attention whoring "persona" and its cringey as hell, as "autistic" as you think I may seem, the autism you give off completely dwarfs my autism :feelskek: (which makes your insult extremely ironic)

You are kind of the last person who should be saying anything like this:
Oh and I have another autistic thread for you guys to read, do enjoy :feelsokman:

 
replace this with a buck toothed sheboon and she will be dancing about how much money she is about to make from proud betabuxxer @[UWSL] /data/avatars/s/4/4144.jpg?1519965635 [/UWSL]@BlkPillPres :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:
Tbh lately I've really started to get pissed about escorts. They're so overpriced and privileged. Sickening cucks are willing to pay 250 euros for an hour of condom sex. How can they let these women earn this much, more than top professionals do. :feelsUgh:

Escorts always have "I expect a gentleman :soy:" on their profiles. The kind of cucks to pay those kinds of amounts. Those cucked guys probably thinks it makes them manly to dish out that kind of money.
 
Tbh lately I've really started to get pissed about escorts. They're so overpriced and privileged. Sickening cucks are willing to pay 250 euros for an hour of condom sex. How can they let these women earn this much, more than top professionals do. :feelsUgh:

Escorts always have "I expect a gentleman :soy:" on their profiles. The kind of cucks to pay those kinds of amounts. Those cucked guys probably thinks it makes them manly to dish out that kind of money.
Absolutely correct. These whores think that they are "working", thus they demand respect for their contribution to soyciety. Escorts in animeland are not that entitled
 
My dude, you spend your time spamming the site with gorilla images to create some kind of attention whoring "persona" and its cringey as hell, as "autistic" as you think I may seem, the autism you give off completely dwarfs my autism :feelskek: (which makes your insult extremely ironic)

You are kind of the last person who should be saying anything like this:
Oh and I have another autistic thread for you guys to read, do enjoy :feelsokman:

Didn't you block me LOL. what? You finally decided to take some actual feedback instead of blocking every person who isn't as retarded as you?

You didn't deny any of what I said because you couldn't. It was all objective. Meanwhile you're bringing up irrelevant shit about me posting pictures of primates, while writing a narrative for me that suits your attempt at a comeback

That shit got under your skin didnt it? :feelskek:

Reality is often like that

Say what you will about my gorilla posting, but it pales in comparison to how bad your narcissistic, dry, and autistic personality is.

The truth of the matter is that barely anyone here likes you for a reason. Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger. It's not my fault you're generally an unlikable piece of human trash.

You should face the truth more often, it'll bring your ego down a few pegs where it belongs
 
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JFL at anime watching retatds who call men who use the oldest business in the world cucks.
Better men than you have fucked prostitutes and seen no problem with it.
Tbh
 
I have nothing against escortcels. You're gonna PAY one way or another. When you add up all the dinner dates, jewelry, and other bullshit, normies are paying the equivalent of $1000+ a fuck. Personally the legality is the only thing that stops me from escortcelling. Maybe low risk, but not worth getting in trouble for a piece of ass lol.
 
@mental_out can you just lock this thread? I shouldn’t have made it, admittedly. Even if that guy’s narrative is really annoying.
 
I have nothing against escortcels. You're gonna PAY one way or another. When you add up all the dinner dates, jewelry, and other bullshit, normies are paying the equivalent of $1000+ a fuck.
This, I always say its ironic that these guys would still "date" when dating is just prostitution with extra steps

Personally the legality is the only thing that stops me from escortcelling. Maybe low risk, but not worth getting in trouble for a piece of ass lol.
1. This is understandable, its illegal where I live but I "knew a guy" who took me to the place and told me where to go, etc.

2. The police are usually "in on it", society is a lot more corrupt than you think, you just need to know which places to go. The place I went to is well known in this country and yet it hasn't been shut down yet, the police are getting a cut for sure. So it depends on your country, might be riskier where you are

3. This is exactly why I'm wealthmaxxing, you can one day move to a place where its legal or where legality doesn't matter because its such a normal thing that nobody goes against it (e.g. Thailand)

@mental_out can you just lock this thread? I shouldn’t have made it, admittedly. Even if that guy’s narrative is really annoying.
@mental_out - Oh nah, no need to listen to this troll that is mocking you and attention whoring by using your avatar. He wants the thread closed all of a sudden when it isn't having the effect he intended lol
 
This, I always say its ironic that these guys would still "date" when dating is just prostitution with extra steps


1. This is understandable, its illegal where I live but I "knew a guy" who took me to the place and told me where to go, etc.

2. The police are usually "in on it", society is a lot more corrupt than you think, you just need to know which places to go. The place I went to is well known in this country and yet it hasn't been shut down yet, the police are getting a cut for sure. So it depends on your country, might be riskier where you are

3. This is exactly why I'm wealthmaxxing, you can one day move to a place where its legal or where legality doesn't matter because its such a normal thing that nobody goes against it (e.g. Thailand)


@mental_out - Oh nah, no need to listen to this troll that is mocking you and attention whoring by using your avatar. He wants the thread closed all of a sudden when it isn't having the effect he intended lol
Regarding #2, that makes sense. I was always surprised there were sites like backpage with hundreds of hoes right there, and the law never did anything about it. lol
@mental_out - Oh nah, no need to listen to this troll that is mocking you and attention whoring by using your avatar. He wants the thread closed all of a sudden when it isn't having the effect he intended lol
he losing argument lol :feelstastyman:
 
Regarding #2, that makes sense. I was always surprised there were sites like backpage with hundreds of hoes right there, and the law never did anything about it. lol
I literally feel depressed that I missed out on the "backpage era", we really missed out as incels, now we have to do all this shit manually for the most part or find other sites like it, but backpage was like the piratebay of paying for sex, everything was so easy and centralized

he losing argument lol :feelstastyman:
:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:
 
I literally feel depressed that I missed out on the "backpage era", we really missed out as incels, now we have to do all this shit manually for the most part or find other sites like it, but backpage was like the piratebay of paying for sex, everything was so easy and centralized


:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:
yeah I missed out too, used to lurk on there looking at whores and thinking bout escortcelling but never got around to it :feelswhat:
 
paying for pussy is disgusting and more cucked than betabuxxing.
 
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Regarding #2, that makes sense. I was always surprised there were sites like backpage with hundreds of hoes right there, and the law never did anything about it. lol

he losing argument lol :feelstastyman:
Im not losing any argument. He’s still a faggot. I feel like most people already know that and it’s worthless to discuss the topic.
 
2. The police are usually "in on it", society is a lot more corrupt than you think, you just need to know which places to go. The place I went to is well known in this country and yet it hasn't been shut down yet, the police are getting a cut for sure. So it depends on your country, might be riskier where you are
This is one of the basic blackpills that everyone should know, but they tend to overlook or dismiss. Just LOL if you don't think that the entire system is corrupt from the irrelevant police patrol cop to the top bankers who control the economy. The system sustains itself by being the biggest supporting force of all the underground "illegal" activities. Just LOL if you don't think that the government isn't the number one provider of drugs, prostitution, human trafficking, child sexual exploitation and all the shit they claim to be fighting against. I'd even argue that without those things the system would have crumpled down on itself long ago due to inflation, lack of funds and lack of control from the government over illegal activities which would allow them to lose their power over people to normal individuals like what happened in Colombia with Pablo Escobar


I mean this isn't even a conspiracy, it can be easily proven by just few hours of research. H. W. Bush himself was responsible for the biggest cocaine deal in the history of the United States
 
I will never fuck a prostitute, having that kind of dry sex would be extreme ropefuel for me. Don't know and don't care about the user OP is talking though.
 
Just LOL if you don't think that the government isn't the number one provider of drugs, prostitution, human trafficking, child sexual exploitation and all the shit they claim to be fighting against.
Crime being part of the economy is just the governments way of "taxing" the public without having to do it directly

Crime is something that is allowed and regulated, it is never outright "fought against", that's the fairy tale that is portrayed in TV series like Law & Order, and only normies actually fall for the BS

I'd even argue that without those things the system would have crumpled down on itself long ago due to inflation, lack of funds and lack of control from the government
I believe the same, crime is an essential part of every country's economy and its the elephant in the room that everyone wants to pretend isn't there

You'd have to be an idiot to think that governments in countries like Thailand don't know that sex tourism is an essential part of their economy, it would be very easy to enforce these laws and arrest all these men, but they don't, because it brings in millions in US currency into the country each year



Im not losing any argument. He’s still a faggot. I feel like most people already know that and it’s worthless to discuss the topic.
You need to google "most", because "most" users I talk to already agree with me or end up agreeing with me after we debate

I'm living rent free in your brain baaaaaabyyyyy :feelskek:

Your thread literally got derailed and I'm having conversations with people that agree with me, JFL, the irony
 
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Crime is something that is allowed and regulated, it is never outright "fought against", that's the fairy tale that is portrayed in TV series like Law & Order, and only normies actually fall for the BS
Yes, the government won't come after you if you're a smart criminal who launders his money and stores it in their banks because it provides the government with taxes and financial liquidity
 
If you're older than 22 and still khhv then escortmaxx. Period. There's nothing wrong with it. If morals are stopping you then know that the degenerate youth of today that calls themselves liberals, feminists and lgbt fags are doing way more disgusting things. In such an environment if a nigga gotta pay some bucks for pussy then why not.

You absolutely don't want to wake up one day. 47 of age. Still khhv. Not able to get your dick up and still fantasizing about going to college frat parties and fucking prime pussy. (Sorry @FrothySolutions)

NO NIGGA DESERVES TO GO THROUGH THEIR YOUTH SEXLESS.
 
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I don’t think that’s even legal in the US
 
Crime being part of the economy is just the governments way of "taxing" the public without having to do it directly

Crime is something that is allowed and regulated, it is never outright "fought against", that's the fairy tale that is portrayed in TV series like Law & Order, and only normies actually fall for the BS


I believe the same, crime is an essential part of every country's economy and its the elephant in the room that everyone wants to pretend isn't there

You'd have to be an idiot to think that governments in countries like Thailand don't know that sex tourism is an essential part of their economy, it would be very easy to enforce these laws and arrest all these men, but they don't, because it brings in millions in US currency into the country each year




You need to google "most", because "most" users I talk to already agree with me or end up agreeing with me after we debate

I'm living rent free in your brain baaaaaabyyyyy :feelskek:

Your thread literally got derailed and I'm having conversations with people that agree with me, JFL, the irony
No. It is just your faggot cuck orbiters. Most people responded “lol yeah hes an idiot” then left the thread. Fuck off dude.
 
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