Serious [Reminder]Researchers are not on our side. They never were.

[based_meme]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0rwLUQbAo&t=603s


This guy is supposedly the leading researcher on incels (not inceldom, there is a difference) and even he throws around the terms "black pill ideology" and "incel ideology." This intentionally misleads people, as they associate anything under the umbrella of empirical facts and the socially unpalatable, uncomfortable conclusions that are drawn from them - what we call the black pills - as ideological when in fact it's merely highlighting reality. It also gives the false impression that we're all ideologues (with extremist views) and that our suffering is not justifiable as a result, because it's in our own hands to change that (just-world bullshit rearing its head).

@The Enforcer This guy is just another disingenuous asshole academic like the others who aren't interested in the true underlying problems and how to help incels, but to study us like diseased animals that they must keep a distance from.

@WorthlessSlavicShit @DarkStar

 

[Twatcel]

Lmao look at this dude. He's a target at the mall for me.

 

[Twatcel]

I'm gonna bully this fucker at the mall.

 

[Twatcel]

Pop his tires at the mall parking. Fucker.

 

[Mecoja]

"vicious resentment towards women"

 

[WhereIsHamudi]

If I was a chad I would get pussy. It's that simple. Since I am not chad and I dont get pussy everyone else can fuck off and eat shit.

 

[based_meme]

"vicious resentment towards women"

The whole thing is feminism-laden, gynocentric propaganda (it's the United Cuckdom, no surprise). I'm not even going to cope and delude myself by thinking that he sympathizes with us and can't be truly honest about the root causes because he has to tow the line. He really believes his own bullshit, because he repeats "incel ideology" a number of times in the interview.

 

[Thugs-5-Less]

Lmao look at this dude. He's a target at the mall for me.

are you shooting up the mall

 

[glutty]

Not for 10 seconds even

 

[killchad]

That guy isn't a researcher

 

[SmhChan]

Blackpill and the consequences of it going mainstream has been a disaster for Incels.is, much to the contrary of what its users hoped.

Edit: Fuck my dyslexia.

 

[based_meme]

Blackpill and the consequences of it going mainstream has been a disaster for Incels.is, much to the contrary of its users hoped.

No, some of us understand exactly what it means for the black pill to go mainstream. We know that it would be disruptive to the cultural and social order. Legions of black pilled men mean that many of them check out of the rat race and don't participate in society (or at least not the same extent), as well as deteriorate the male-female relations amongst normies. This means less tax dollars, less meat for the meat grinders (army, corporations etc.), and less exploitable economic units.

 

[SmhChan]

No, some of us understand exactly what it means for the black pill to go mainstream. We know that it would be disruptive to the cultural and social order. Legions of black pilled men mean that many of them check out of the rat race and don't participate in society (or at least not the same extent), as well as deteriorate the male-female relations amongst normies. This means less tax dollars, less meat for the meat grinders (army, corporations etc.), and less exploitable economic units.

It's not a personal slight against you. But it's been totally irresponsible of this community to push blackpill into msm without thinking how it could be weaponized against them by the higher authority of this society. Before this small group of us men can take any action to influence the larger male population, the society will already have manipulated and bastardized the blackpill's intended (incel-intended) message to influence the same larger male population, and we will probably be back to square one (or even worse off).

 

[Todd Thundercock]

Correct. I learned the hard way.

 

[based_meme]

It's not a personal slight against you.

I didn't take it as one.

But it's been totally irresponsible of this community to push blackpill into msm without thinking how it could be weaponized against them by the higher authority of this society. Before this small group of us men can take any action to influence the larger male population, the society will already have manipulated and bastardized the blackpill's intended (incel-intended) message to influence the same larger male population, and we will probably be back to square one (or even worse off).

I don't know what you're talking about when you say that this community has irresponsibly been pushing the black pill into the msm. Who's been doing this? How has it been happening? Personally, I've always advocated shutting the fuck up about the black pill in public with normies ("never reveal your power level").

 

[Todd Thundercock]

@

@The Enforcer This guy is just another disingenuous asshole academic like the others who aren't interested in the true underlying problems and how to help incels, but to study us like diseased animals that they must keep a distance from.

I assume this board only remains in existence because Master and friends agree to do these incel research studies.

 

[based_meme]

I assume this board only remains in existence because Master and friends agree to do these incel research studies.

I mean, yeah that's a very realistic possibility. The previous owner (Diego Joaquin Galante) was found to have worked with an NGO (Light Upon Light? I don't remember the name) who was using the site to study online extremism and how it develops. We used to joke about how this place won't ever get shut down because glowies need it to keep an eye on us, but that eye is more often going to be researchers (private, government, and academia) than actual law enforcement agencies who really only give a shit when there's something serious they need to look into.

 

[SmhChan]

I didn't take it as one.


I don't know what you're talking about when you say that this community has irresponsibly been pushing the black pill into the msm. Who's been doing this? How has it been happening? Personally, I've always advocated shutting the fuck up about the black pill in public with normies ("never reveal your power level").

The retard room, I mean rehab room, guy and his legion of NPCs and multitude of .is users trying their best to get featured on various anti-male subreddits for a start.

 

[based_meme]

The retard room, I mean rehab room, guy and his legion of NPCs and multitude of .is users trying their best to get featured on various anti-male subreddits for a start.

You mean the teenage edgeposters and reddit larpers who get off when they see their threads posted on inceltears? That doesn't exactly count as msm.

I don't know who the fuck the rehab room is (I'm assuming some youtuber, but that's also not msm, tbhngl); I'm referring to people from this site specifically.

 

[Mecoja]

The whole thing is feminism-laden, gynocentric propaganda (it's the United Cuckdom, no surprise). I'm not even going to cope and delude myself by thinking that he sympathizes with us and can't be truly honest about the root causes because he has to tow the line. He really believes his own bullshit, because he repeats "incel ideology" a number of times in the interview.

He talks about us as a group with a goal, to lower female smv and switch what is looked in male partners. He gives us too much credits, we're just a bunch of dudes with lov smv venting and shitposting on an forum without censorship. Theres no goal, as most of us dont believe anything can be changed from our position.

 

[SmhChan]

You mean the teenage edgeposters and reddit larpers who get off when they see their threads posted on inceltears? That doesn't exactly count as msm.

I don't know who the fuck the rehab room is (I'm assuming some youtuber, but that's also not msm, tbhngl); I'm referring to people from this site specifically.

Rehab Room IS msm. He gets 35-40k views now consistently. You'd be hard-pressed to find a really blackpill video with over 5k views in the past.

Edit: Scratch that. His slightly older videos are over 60-70k. Most YTers would kill for that sort of views. Also, I'm not saying it exactly spreads from this forum. A portion of the userbase here overlaps with looksmax, who are extremely overzealous about pushing blackpill shit on social media platforms like Insta and Tiktok. Then you have twitterX users who do their own inflammatory shits. That's really how blackpill got popular if you think about it. I think when you say forum, you mean the dedicated users. But that's only a handful compared to all the casuals on this forum who actually are pushing this shit irresponsibly.

 

[based_meme]

He talks about us as a group with a goal, to lower female smv and switch what is looked in male partners. He gives us too much credits, we're just a bunch of dudes with lov smv venting and shitposting on an forum without censorship. Theres no goal, as most of us dont believe anything can be changed from our position.

Exactly, spot on. Thank you.

There are copers here who try to politicize our inceldom ("Marxist-Rogerism," for example, JFL). But it's hopeless, because 100 different incels will have 100 different reasons why they're incel and there will be 1000 different solutions. There's no catch-all solution for all of us, because we're not a monolith, no matter how hard anyone tries to put us all in the same box for an easy label. Each of us have different beliefs and we have no real shared identity outside of this one unfortunate state of being (inceldom). You probably have more in common with a random citizen of your country than you do another random incel here.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0rwLUQbAo&t=603s


This guy is supposedly the leading researcher on incels (not inceldom, there is a difference) and even he throws around the terms "black pill ideology" and "incel ideology." This intentionally misleads people, as they associate anything under the umbrella of empirical facts and the socially unpalatable, uncomfortable conclusions that are drawn from them - what we call the black pills - as ideological when in fact it's merely highlighting reality. It also gives the false impression that we're all ideologues (with extremist views) and that our suffering is not justifiable as a result, because it's in our own hands to change that (just-world bullshit rearing its head).

@The Enforcer This guy is just another disingenuous asshole academic like the others who aren't interested in the true underlying problems and how to help incels, but to study us like diseased animals that they must keep a distance from.

@WorthlessSlavicShit @DarkStar

Why are academics all such blind idiots? Are they fucking selected to be such retarded midwits?

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

If I was a chad I would get pussy. It's that simple. Since I am not chad and I dont get pussy everyone else can fuck off and eat shit.

 

[based_meme]

Why are academics all such blind idiots? Are they fucking selected to be such retarded midwits?

They simply have agendas. In his case I'm guessing it's to secure a position after his PhD is completed and to have continued funding.

 

[Mecoja]

Exactly, spot on. Thank you.

There are copers here who try to politicize our inceldom ("Marxist-Rogerism," for example, JFL). But it's hopeless, because 100 different incels will have 100 different reasons why they're incel and there will be 1000 different solutions. There's no catch-all solution for all of us, because we're not a monolith, no matter how hard anyone tries to put us all in the same box for an easy label. Each of us have different beliefs and we have no real shared identity outside of this one unfortunate state of being (inceldom). You probably have more in common with a random citizen of your country than you do another random incel here.

Yeah very true. Well put.

 

[The Enforcer]

Many of Costellos studies prove wrong a lot of myths normies push about incels

 

[PureImagination]

like diseased animals

This is how incels are seen biologically anyways

 

[based_meme]

Many of Costellos studies prove wrong a lot of myths normies push about incels

Which studies and which myths? Also, if that's true, then why does he perpetuate the narrative that we have an ideology?

 

[The Enforcer]

Which studies and which myths? Also, if that's true, then why does he perpetuate the narrative that we have an ideology?

Pretty much all his studies. The myths that we're all white/white supremacists, that incels have a high propensity for violence/rape. That most incels are right wing nutters. That incels "just have too high standards". All have been disproven.

As for ideology. I imagine it's just the easiest way to describe it for the sake of literature. Academic publications and approvals go through several stages including ethics boards. Probably wouldn't go too well to label it as the circumstance it is, as opposed to an ideology because then the academic body may get backlash for (rightfully) "labeling a large percentage of men as incels". Also its harder to study incels who don't identify as incel I guess just because its harder to find them in that sense.

Incel ideology itself is a misnomer for sure. But there's not really a whole lot one can do about that at the moment. It is still best that actual insights are made into this topic instead of letting the MSM and hatefilled normies control the narrative.

 

[based_meme]

Pretty much all his studies. The myths that we're all white/white supremacists, that incels have a high propensity for violence/rape. That most incels are right wing nutters. That incels "just have too high standards". All have been disproven.

As for ideology. I imagine it's just the easiest way to describe it for the sake of literature. Academic publications and approvals go through several stages including ethics boards. Probably wouldn't go too well to label it as the circumstance it is, as opposed to an ideology because then the academic body may get backlash for (rightfully) "labeling a large percentage of men as incels". Also its harder to study incels who don't identify as incel I guess just because its harder to find them in that sense.

Incel ideology itself is a misnomer for sure. But there's not really a whole lot one can do about that at the moment. It is still best that actual insights are made into this topic instead of letting the MSM and hatefilled normies control the narrative.

I'm not completely convinced, but regardless, I appreciate the explanation.

 

[Grodd]

Normies are never on our side

 

[AsiaCel]

Who funds those "researchers", and who funds social media? There's your answer!

 

[Janaki]

What is an "Incel expert"? They act like incels are zoo animals.

 

[manletcel1488]

Yes and no, often times when trying to prove all females are innocent angels they accidently prove the opposite without realizing it so sometimes their research is beneficial, but there is definitely an anti-male/anti-incel bias amongst researchers.

 

[based_meme]

Yes and no, often times when trying to prove all females are innocent angels they accidently prove the opposite without realizing it so sometimes their research is beneficial, but there is definitely an anti-male/anti-incel bias amongst researchers.

That bias is baked in due to the liberalism + feminism that is the supporting pillars of the institutions behind the research.

 

[Hoppipolla]

Imagine if this guy is actually a well-known poster on here

 

[based_meme]

Imagine if this guy is actually a well-known poster on here

No doubt he lurks here at the very least.

 

[Spooky_Heejin]

he throws around the terms "black pill ideology" and "incel ideology." This intentionally misleads people, as they associate anything under the umbrella of empirical facts and the socially unpalatable, uncomfortable conclusions that are drawn from them - what we call the black pills - as ideological when in fact it's merely highlighting reality. It also gives the false impression that we're all ideologues (with extremist views) and that our suffering is not justifiable as a result, because it's in our own hands to change that (just-world bullshit rearing its head).

Very well said.

 

[m3nt4Lbl0ck3d]

His opinion to me is irrelevant. He wouldn't last a week living in my shoes. He can do all the research and fancy worded articles all he likes - it'd be like me trying to claim oppression for being white, I would just be laughed at. The act of what these people do is A grade oppression and cowardice. They're only doing it to recruit other people who don't give a fuck about us either to make it easier and more acceptable to punch down on us. He is a coward, nothing less and nothing more.

 

[Hoppipolla]

No doubt he lurks here at the very least.

Yeah these people seem to come on this forum a lot.

I guess it's just the biggest incel forum.

 

[pizzamaxxer]

atleast this nigga agrees with physical attractiveness being the only aspect taken into consideration in online dating, which eventually results in offline dating. Cuz only the chads and chadlites get the right swipes on these apps and most women are using these apps to date. So that literally just debunks the whole theory of how it is not an 80-20 market distribution. These chicks would right swipe chads and then have dates lined up with them IF chad wants them back . These fucking dating apps are just a vegetable market for chads to choose which veggies they wanna have for dinner tonight meanwhile the normies stand at the end of the market living off the rotten veggies or the leftovers at the Chad's dinner. And then there's us, the invisible men of the society who have been isolated by our peers, judged and bullied by women and cursed with our looks.

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

The whole thing is feminism-laden, gynocentric propaganda (it's the United Cuckdom, no surprise). I'm not even going to cope and delude myself by thinking that he sympathizes with us and can't be truly honest about the root causes because he has to tow the line. He really believes his own bullshit, because he repeats "incel ideology" a number of times in the interview.

I'm really unsure on this one honestly. Some of the stuff he knows about seem impossible not to acknowledge and still pretend that we aren't right on the importance of looks or pretend that we are ideologues choosing our situation, or whatever.


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/shortguys/comments/1jh68st/even_an_incel_expert_recognizes_that_it_is_over/

He talks about us as a group with a goal, to lower female smv and switch what is looked in male partners. He gives us too much credits, we're just a bunch of dudes with lov smv venting and shitposting on an forum without censorship. Theres no goal, as most of us dont believe anything can be changed from our position.

 

[DarkStar]

Ofc, it's the usual shit of "incels are a movement" which if they actually researched us correctly would easily be proven false

Like you pointed out, he used the classic dialectic of utilizing "incels" to portray us as some kinda organized movement, as opposed to saying he's researching "inceldom" which would imply they recognize it as a condition

The blackpill is not an ideology, though you can have ideologies stem from interpreting it