Yes, they will try to settle down with their looksmatches quicker and stop riding the cock carousel as much if they knew it wasn't possible to cuck their husbands later on.
If foids can't hold the threat of divorce rape over their betabuxxers then they lose all their power, and have no choice except to be submissive.
Nobody thinks of marriage and divorce when they’re fucking around every week
They will if they're reminded of their responsibilities by their community, and if the laws aren't on the whore's side they'll shape up and get married young.
Kek you sound more like a MSTOW than an incel. Judging by your arguments you seem to have no problem with actually attracting foids, you just can’t keep them from the looks of things
I never had a girlfriend or unpaid sex, but sub4's would easily get married or have girlfriends if it wasn't for feminism and cucked laws.
So you’re just coping hard then. How would you explain the incels of the animal kingdom they have no concept of laws and equality and yet there is always a skeleton few men doing most of the breeding
Dogs, cats, birds, fish, and squirrels all get their fair share of pussy without having to be chads. Animal foids are way less picky than human foids. If things were like the animal kingdom we'd be getting laid even easier than the 50's.
JFL you don’t have to be a Chad to get laid as a human either and where exactly are you getting your information on animal breeding patterns from
I see dogs in the street fucking each other the first time they meet a lot, the foid dog doesn't demand the other dog to be a chad as long as he's bigger and stronger than her. It's much easier for most animals to get laid than us because of the cucked laws.
I’m not exactly sure the common man is qualified to determine the overall genetic quality of a stray dog. Also, how did laws stop you from getting laid in high school where getting married was not only unthought of but also largely illegal
I know animals because I study them more than the common man. In highschool I was very fat and had bad acne and was overly religious. But even then I still had better chances than I had after highschool.
Alright then, so what specific traits do female dogs look for in male dogs aside from size and aggression
The truth is that women will not fuck a man who she deems ugly that’s all there is to it. Only a decent sum of cash or a very real threat of death/grievous bodily harm will get them to go through with the act. If you aren’t considered attractive to them you stand no chance no matter what the divorce laws say
They don't only want to fuck the model looking lassie dogs and chad german shepherds, they fuck whatever their looksmatch is.
You just said they'd fuck an ugly guy if he has cash and status. No feminism or cucked laws gives men more cash and status, even if they're ugly.
That’s not very specific or congruent with typical patterns of sexual selection
I’m talking about having gabbing gold digger money or banging porn stars and escorts. When I bring up money I specifically targeting foids who would willingly sell sex to various ugly males. Of course pornstars and escorts make up a minuscule amount of the female population worldwide so you’re not going to have every one of them drop at your feet for cash. I didn’t bring up status in my last post but I grant up the threat of a physically painful loss or death. Even if we were talking about status that comes from being respected and looked up to by the group as a whole something that the vast majority of incels can’t attain and once again laws have nothing to do with it. Most incels even if you gave them average looks aren’t especially impressive or respectable
Screw them, there are enough whores and gold diggers around to keep most incels sexually satisfied in an uncucked society.
Sluts will be faced with the threat of slut shaming, and losing their social status by not being able to find husbands. So the laws will help keep them in line in order to preserve their status in an uncucked civilization.
We have more to offer than some low iq roastie roast beef flaps.
You can’t get a gold digger without gold digger money and you can’t get gold digger money if you’re a NEET or work a low to mid wage job
What does that have to do with the respect you can personally garner.? Even if slut shaming was brought back (which didn’t even stem the tide of premarital/casual sex) why would a foid go out of her way to date an unattractive male with no money or status of which to speak of especially when foids are rapidly replacing males in the workforce . You can’t take away the advantage of immunity to criticism and assume that everything will suddenly fall into place for you
Again, that wouldn't be the case if it weren't for cucked laws and feminism.
Slut shaming won't stop sluthood completely, but it will help keep it at a lower occurrence. Again, foids only have more money and status due to feminism and cucked laws, which is why they must be removed, then foids will settle for their looksmatches at an early age so they can be looked at as decent women in the community.
Can you specifically tell me how feminism has impeded a man’s ability to make exorbident amounts of money
Once again can you specifically elaborate on how this all adds up also how the status and money of an incel has somehow been drastically crippled in comparison to men of average and above average looks
All the HR departments are filled with holes. Bitches get the easiest jobs that pay the most, they get affirmative action in the top jobs, men can get fired just by an accusation from a dumb slut, etc.. As an average man usually the only jobs you can get that make decent money are hard labor or be an entrepreneur. Anything else and you're a clog in the system way under foids. In the past a sub6 wood chopper could raise a family.
So why I asked you to be specific did you see “make blanket statements and exaggerate every detail as much as possible” because what you’re saying is almost completely divorced from reality. I could point out literal scores of people who aren’t laborers or entrepreneurs and make decent money. There was never a point in time in which being a brick layer gave you gold digger money. The whole rape accusation craze has been totally blown out of proportion as well as the effects of affirmative action. Males are still making money but if they keep dropping out of school and the work force then foids will in fact have all of the money and opportunities
If they're sub6 then they either went through a lot of school, or had connections, or they're over 40 and got the job when things weren't as cucked.
Gold miners had no problem getting pussy from gold diggers and whores, and many of them looked old, dusty, and ugly.
The threat of it happening is enough to keep men walking on eggshells and accepting unfair treatment.
I don't know where you've been, but holes always get the best jobs just for being holes.
Again, they wouldn't be dropping out if it weren't for the cucked laws and feminism.
I’ve got a family friend who’s in husband mid 20s, got a bachelors in finance and works at Capital One after he did a few internships for them. He’s a high tier normie but he’s not making the interviewers drench their panties either
Well I’d imagine that someone who has access to what was then the backbone of the economy would betabuxx his way into a marriage
And you know this how? As far as I’ve seen the only people who give a shit about these false accusations are people who are in the manosphere
If that were the case then every foid would be a supervisor, mid level manager, or a CEO
Most are dropping out simply because they can. Take away the safety net and quickly the wheat and the chart would be separated
That's rare when that happens and I don't think he makes more than 50K a year from that job. If he has high tier normie looks and did years of internships then that could be the reason he got the job.
They might not speak about it openly, but they at least know the threat is there subconsciously from all the feminist nonsense they hear from the media and facebook.
They get those positions much easier then men. If you walk into a post office it's mostly women working there, not because they're the best, but because of affirmative action pussy pandering, and the same happens for most easy jobs. Usually some low iq hole is a supervisor or manager of a walmart for no reason except that she has a hole. The number of middle class male managers and supervisors are much less than female ones.
Men have no safety nets besides their family, or they'll be homeless.
I don’t know his salary but he’s making good money for someone of his age I’d say the lowest he makes is 50k if I had to guess
It’s seems as if pretty much anybody with a job doesn’t think it will happen to them
Look out everybody foids are getting paid slightly higher than minimum wage at Walmart
. I’m talking about serious money and positions here. A man’s earning ability is still intact, if anything it’s the system that’s destabilizing Exactly my point. Many men are refusing to do anything because they know that someone will take care of all of their needs every step of the way. If you take that away you’ll see more people working out of necessity
When they take the jobs of more qualified men then many men will be left without jobs, or have to go even lower down the job ladder where there are less foids in order to get a better shot. Sub6 men who aren't rich or have connections will end up making a lot less than foids because of feminism, not because women are less lazy than them.Look out everybody foids are getting paid slightly higher than minimum wage at Walmart
That's not true. Women have their family, cucks, and the government as safety nets. If you take all those away from them they won't magically start doing better on their own.
Do you have any insider knowledge of the gender quotas of any particular company
Aside from cucks, men and women have the same safety nets being family and the government. I’m pretty sure you would go out and find a job if you have no other options and we’re thrown out. Stripped from any outside help most people will struggle to survive
If that were the case then 95% of the homeless wouldn't be men, also the majority of the unemployed and underemployed.
Obviously you'd work any shitty job to survive, but that's not what's going to make men productive. The government should stop focusing on useless holes and end feminism, then use the government resources to support sub6 men, then men will have higher status like in the past and get laid 100x easier.
As far as the government is concerned, if people are working, consuming, and paying taxes they are productive
The homeless in the street are 95% men. Sure some whores might be "homeless" as in they don't pay rent for their own home and need to rely on others, but the homeless you see with no support on the street are 95% men. Their recklessness doesn't have to do with them being homeless, if the laws weren't cucked they probably wouldn't have gotten into trouble, most likely they did something they let foids get away with all the time.
The government will profit much less if their citizens are just zombies getting through their low paying jobs with drugs and alcohol. If they want to kick up productivity they should remove feminism and the cucked laws, then whores will get in line and learn to be more productive and settle with their looksmatch at a young age.
As long as the people continue to do their jobs and stay out of trouble the government doesn’t give a shit. The only way to ramp up production is to take away the safety nets and the creature comforts but of course that would never go through and if it did there would be riots
Fuck what the government thinks, they're not god. The majority of the safety nets go to useless unproductive foids, they need to be at least treated like men and get little to no help from the government. Foids have cucks anyway, so if they take from the government too then they're double dipping like greedy whores. If you had a button you can push to end feminism and take away all the cucked laws, would you push it?
Well if your grand solution is “have the government fix everything for me” then they are your god in a sense. I’m simply telling you how they see things. The government is like a large corporation with the differences being that they (should) have more responsibility to the people and that your money is pretty much guaranteed to go to them unless you drop out or go off the grid
There are certainly many things that bother me in terms of gender relations under the lense of the law. However I wouldn’t scrap all of the developments that feminism has caused. None of them have had any visible effect on my life as I’ve never even been kissed or falsely accused of rape. Ideally everyone would have the same rights and responsibilities with the standards being applied in the most neutral way possible
I want the government to remove laws, not add more. I don't want them to fix anything, I want them to leave sub6 men alone. Sub6 men shouldn't pay taxes since they receive the least benefit from them. Having no official government at all would benefit men and increase innovation and productivity.
I don't know where you've been if you haven't seen how degenerate and hostile feminism and cucked laws made it for men. I don't know how you can say you enjoy parts of feminism, so you're ok with whores getting away with lying about rape and screaming harassment at every turn? Being against safety nets should mean you'e against cucked laws and feminism. If it weren't for those things sub4's would be having relationships easier like in the 50's and before.
Wether or not you want anything “fixed” you seem to be adamant that the government should step in and solve vaguely defined issues with sweeping legislation. If your entire plan hinges on their action or inaction it would behoove you to understand how they both think and operate
Removing a large amount of taxpayers is the last thing any government would want to do and to say that a specific group should be exempt from any civic responsibility simply because they “least benefit” from keeping the nation afloat is horribly counterproductive
At this point I have to call into question your knowledge on the governments numerous functions
Degeneracy has little to no effect on my personal life aside from a situation in which I’m killed by someone driving under the influence. I’ve been treated like shit by both genders due to my appearance so hostility isn’t something I connect to a political movement. When I said I would keep parts of feminism I was referring to the rights and opportunities a legal citizen should have in their country if they are productive in some capacity. I’m not for men’s lives being ruined due to false rape charges or being given exorbident amount of alimony and child support funds.
If you are a genetically inferior male nothing comes easy especially when it comes to sexual realationships. A legit incel would be able to accept the fact that women find him repulsive by virtue of his appearance and that taking things back to “the good old days” would do little to nothing towards bettering his position
The government will leave us alone and remove the cucked laws once men stop supporting feminism and tell them to fuck off.
That's what will happen if sub5's aren't able to get their dick wet on a regular basis.
Most of them are nonsense just to generate cash from normshits. I made a thread on it.
You should know feminism has nothing to do with equality, it's about female supremacy. Any self proclaimed feminist should be rediculed and treated like a retard. There is no wage gap, rape culture, or patriarchy, you have to have less than two braincels to believe that stuff in this cucked clown world. Foids get quotas and affirmative action in the top jobs which pushes more qualified men lower down the career ladder. Once feminism is ended foids won't be able to screw men over in divorce courts or make false rape accusations.
Sub4's and sub5's were able to have relationships with their looksmatches very commonly in the past, that is almost unheard of now unless the man is very rich thanks to feminism.
Fuck nature. Im never going to experience my fantasy bec. of this shit.
You have to eat your vegetables.
Cope
I’m not saying that the government doesn’t waste a shit ton of money but removing it entirely is like removing a parachute. Everything will go down in the end but in the end normies would rather tumble than splat
I see someone has spent far too much time watching right wing youtubers and very little time reading my previous posts
We had this argument before sometime and January and I disproved that claim but just looking at Facebook profiles for a few minutes
I already ate a lot mom.
The government are as useful as a mafia extorting you. Men need to realize they don't have to rely on crooks to protect them from "the bad guys" the government makes up to scare people. It's illuminati trickery and the sheep fall for it.
We didn't know if they were friends or relatives, that's not proof, they were just sub5's taking pictures with their somewhat looksmatches.
JFL if you honestly think it’s that simple
That wasn’t what you said when I first presented my evidence to you and if Facebook didn’t suspend my account for “suspicious behavior” I’d do it again
It can work if men get the soy latte's out their mouths and start not accepting bad treatment from cucks in the government.
I forgot where that thread was but you can pull it up if you want.
Because mob rule would certainly further technological, economic, and social advancements
I’ll do some digging it’s going to be somewhat difficult since I don’t belive either of us created the thread and I can’t rember it’s title
Better a high iq mob than a low iq corrupt government.
All that can be linked to how feminism devalued your smv and turned men against each other to try and impress any hole around them. Men wouldn't be as hostile to each other if they got laid on a regular basis. Feminism contributes to violence because it gives holes a free ticket to fuck all the violent criminals and thugs they want, while they reject their looksmatches, and still have the government support their future gang banger or whore kids.
You said:
Most 5's are not getting anywhere near their looksmatch, it's very difficult for them to get that.
Pick one
My SMV started in the toilet as a result of my unfortunate genetic makeup. Genetically inferior males are always mistreated and tormented by the pack
Well it looks like we’ve gone around in a very long and drawn out circle
I rather depend on my neighbors or on call private security than the crooked cops who kill 1000's of people each year.
Sub5 and sub4 isn't that ugly, you have to be really ugly to be treated to badly by the pack. But in feminism's new cucked clown world all it takes to get treated like crap is being a sub6 man.
