Religion is masturbation

[dumbozhina]

This applies to Christianity (especially eastern traditions), Sufism, Hinduism, etc.
The basic structure is:
1. There is an Divine Essence/Absolute Truth/whatever u call it.
2. The worldly things, including one's perception, emotion, experience, is fleeting or unreal.
3. Therefore, seek union with the Divine Essence to rise above the world, be sanctified.
As the title suggests, this is just masturbation. A man imagines a perfect foid in his head, has sex with her ("Union"), and gains intense pleasure from the experience. During the experience, the body and mind is concentrated, and all other things are, momentarily, left behind.
The structure is complicated, just like sex.
Level1: the male is satisifed.
Level2: the male observes that the foid is satisfied. (sound, expression, faked orgasms, etc)
Level3: the male is happy that the foid is satisfied.
It's a feedback loop. So is "Union with God":
Level1: I love God.
Level2: the imaginary God loves me back.
Level3: I am moved that God also loves me. I love this imaginary God more.

 

[PLS HALP ME]

This applies to Christianity (especially eastern traditions), Sufism, Hinduism, etc.
The basic structure is:
1. There is an Divine Essence/Absolute Truth/whatever u call it.
2. The worldly things, including one's perception, emotion, experience, is fleeting or unreal.
3. Therefore, seek union with the Divine Essence to rise above the world, be sanctified.
As the title suggests, this is just masturbation. A man imagines a perfect foid in his head, has sex with her ("Union"), and gains intense pleasure from the experience. During the experience, the body and mind is concentrated, and all other things are, momentarily, left behind.
The structure is complicated, just like sex.
Level1: the male is satisifed.
Level2: the foid is satisfied.
Level3: the male is happy that the foid is satisfied.
It's a feedback loop. So is "Union with God":
Level1: I love God.
Level2: the imaginary God loves me back.
Level3: I am moved that God also loves me. I love this imaginary God more.

Why an imaginary God?

 

[dumbozhina]

Why an imaginary God?

everything beyond lvl 1 is imaginary. the part that "God loves me" and "I love God more". the only thing that's real is that u are masturbating.

 

[ANTAGONIST]

Religion is the perfect example of "copium", it is simultaneously "cope" and addictive and life-altering as opium.

 

[NepNep]

Religion is the perfect example of "copium", it is simultaneously "cope" and addictive and life-altering as opium.

Oldest cope in history

 

[TellMomImGone]

This applies to Christianity (especially eastern traditions), Sufism, Hinduism, etc.
The basic structure is:
1. There is an Divine Essence/Absolute Truth/whatever u call it.
2. The worldly things, including one's perception, emotion, experience, is fleeting or unreal.
3. Therefore, seek union with the Divine Essence to rise above the world, be sanctified.
As the title suggests, this is just masturbation. A man imagines a perfect foid in his head, has sex with her ("Union"), and gains intense pleasure from the experience. During the experience, the body and mind is concentrated, and all other things are, momentarily, left behind.
The structure is complicated, just like sex.
Level1: the male is satisifed.
Level2: the male observes that the foid is satisfied. (sound, expression, faked orgasms, etc)
Level3: the male is happy that the foid is satisfied.
It's a feedback loop. So is "Union with God":
Level1: I love God.
Level2: the imaginary God loves me back.
Level3: I am moved that God also loves me. I love this imaginary God more.

Interesting cynical parallelism, you could do way better if you actually studied each one of the religions.

Im sorry bro, but this is just bs argument. Deconstructing you is really easy.

If i go with Hinduism: Level 1 is wrong, Which God you tributing first?
If i go with Christianity: Level 1 is wrong, God loved you first
If i go with Sufism: Level 1 is wrong again, God loved you first

I can tell you dont know much, but thats good, you can improve. If u are a kid, dont worry, you actually had a point.

 

[bladeofnadedswelve]

elites had to make things like religion to get the herd to do anything. it is the perfect way to keep normies in line. at least, it used to be

 

[dumbozhina]

Interesting cynical parallelism, you could do way better if you actually studied each one of the religions.

Im sorry bro, but this is just bs argument. Deconstructing you is really easy.

If i go with Hinduism: Level 1 is wrong, Which God you tributing first?
If i go with Christianity: Level 1 is wrong, God loved you first
If i go with Sufism: Level 1 is wrong again, God loved you first

I can tell you dont know much, but thats good, you can improve. If u are a kid, dont worry, you actually had a point.

i am obviously no expert, but the response revealed u dont know much either. are u even able to read wikipedia pages?
only idiots think hinduism is funamentally about the triune gods and their avatars. i can tell u never read the more philosophical texts, like the Bhagvad Gita and the Upanishads. and for abrahamic religions, muslims won't say "allah loves u", the typical adjs used are merciful and compassionate. the sexual image and metaphors are everywhere in the bible. song of songs being one of them. god and israel, christ and church, etc.
anyway, god loves u first is one of the bluepiller illusions no matter what god.
next time maybe just do a little study before u spit bs. maybe i am asking for too much.

 

[TellMomImGone]

i am obviously no expert

Congratulations on recognizing that. Now:

In what way do you want me to deconstruct your argument, theology and interpretation or just direct verses? Are you the type of guy that talks about religion without reading their full texts? Are you chinese?

I dont read philosophical texts from your side of the world, yes. I know only about western old and new philosphy mostly.

anyway, god loves u first is one of the bluepiller illusions no matter what god.

Surah Al-Ma'idah (Chapter 5), Verse 54. "He loves them, and they love Him."

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." [1]

idk bro, you are just reducing the whole religion to a sexual fantasy. If you deny God loved you first, then you are just making your own religion so it can fit your theory. If thats the case, there is no point to keep conversation. You manufactured a religion in that exact moment.

I see that the way you write your response expresses frustration. If you want a second chance....would you able to come up with your full parallelism again in a way that makes sense, like the full comparison?

 

[dumbozhina]

i can see u spend some time researching. obviously yields no good results but still good for u.

Surah Al-Ma'idah (Chapter 5), Verse 54. "He loves them, and they love Him."

why dont u quote the whole paragraph? from sahih international translation.

O you who have believed, whoever of you should revert from his religion – Allah will bring forth [in place of them] a people He will love and who will love Him [who are] humble toward the believers, powerful against the disbelievers; they strive in the cause of Allah and do not fear the blame of a critic. That is the favor of Allah; He bestows it upon whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.

if u dont believe, then allah will replace u with people who will believe. in the hypothetical sense the new believers will love god and god will love them.
i dont know if ur mom and dad (if any) loves u this way. i hope not.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

i know this verse. how does this "deconstruct" my point?
btw do u even know what "deconstruct" means? here is the wikipedia page.

I see that the way you write your response expresses frustration

i am not at all frustrated. i am just spending my holiday chatting in this forum like any other incel.

 

[TellMomImGone]

i dont know if ur mom and dad (if any) loves u this way. i hope not.

Why is it that you hope not?

i know this verse. how does this "deconstruct" my point?
btw do u even know what "deconstruct" means? here is the wikipedia page.

U didnt answer any of my questions.... my affirmation is that I deconstruct your argument by simply pointing that your parallelism is wrong since "level 1".

Just a quick question, did Allah and God loved you first before you even existed according to their religion?

 

[dumbozhina]

Why is it that you hope not?


U didnt answer any of my questions.... my affirmation is that I deconstruct your argument by simply pointing that your parallelism is wrong since "level 1".

Just a quick question, did Allah and God loved you first before you even existed according to their religion?

Just a quick question, do u even bother to read my responses?
if u do, u won't ask such questions.

 

[TellMomImGone]

Just a quick question, do u even bother to read my responses?
if u do, u won't ask such questions.

Lets not get lost around this rabbit hole. Answer my question, is very simple yes or no.

 

[dumbozhina]

Lets not get lost around this rabbit hole. Answer my question, is very simple yes or no.

if this is a rabbit hole, didn't u start this? do u even have any valid points to argue about?

Just a quick question, did Allah and God loved you first before you even existed according to their religion?

the question is not even wrong. like i said, muslims seldom use the word "love".
for the christian god. obviously no. have u heard of the theology of predestination? which is a orthodox islamic position as well.
or jacob and esau?

 

[TellMomImGone]

if this is a rabbit hole, didn't u start this? do u even have any valid points to argue about?

No, yes.

the question is not even wrong. like i said, muslims seldom use the word "love".
for the christian god. obviously no. have u heard of the theology of predestination? which is a orthodox islamic position as well.
or jacob and esau?

Yes. Yes.

I see you think that “you love God first” , so level 1 makes complete sense for you. It’s interesting how you reduce religion to a sexual fantasy (masturbation). Wonder why no one did it here before.

I will let you have the final word (if u want)

Good luck on your studies or job and keep on not being a NEET, at the end of the day it doesn’t matter if you ascend or not, you won’t escape the blackpill brocel.

 

[BlackPilledNormi]

The worldly things, including one's perception, emotion, experience, is fleeting or unreal.

This doesnt apply to christianity.
Also science is the believ that one's perception would indentify the world as it is. Which science proves by itself to be wrong.

There is an Divine Essence/Absolute Truth/whatever u call it.

Everything is based on the exact this, even Nihilism

 

[dumbozhina]

This doesnt apply to christianity.

read Ecclesiastes.

Everything is based on the exact this, even Nihilism

simple counterexamples: hegelian dialectics or marxism.

 

[AutistSupremacist]

Religion is the perfect example of "copium", it is simultaneously "cope" and addictive and life-altering as opium.

 

[BlackPilledNormi]

simple counterexamples: hegelian dialectics or marxism

Both are based on the existence of a divine order/ principe, eventhough they try to give a better exeplenation for it

 

[dumbozhina]

Both are based on the existence of a divine order/ principe, eventhough they try to give a better exeplenation for it

u r confusing the weltgeist and god. it's not the "absolute truth" or "divine essence".
as for marxism, it does not make any commited ontological arguments.

 

[BlackPilledNormi]

u r confusing the weltgeist and god.

Whats the difference

as for marxism, it does not make any commited ontological arguments

They just copied it from the hegelian

 

[Pikacel]

Fear’s a bigger motivator than love

Abrahamic god especially is to be feared first and foremost

 

[thevineyardworker]

elites had to make things like religion to get the herd to do anything. it is the perfect way to keep normies in line. at least, it used to be

Elites had to make atheism to make people workers only motivated by maternal causes

 

[thevineyardworker]

Atheism is depression masturbation, you are masturbating daily, your lack of virtue. You desperately need meaning so you make your own degeneracy and self-loathing your meaning. Repent and believe in Jesus Christ

 

[esdeathlover]

Fear’s a bigger motivator than love

Abrahamic god especially is to be feared first and foremost

no its obedience I mean the abrahamic god unilatierally controls everything about your life what you can eat what you can say what you can even think

 

[TellMomImGone]

Atheism is depression masturbation, you are masturbating daily, your lack of virtue. You desperately need meaning so you make your own degeneracy and self-loathing your meaning. Repent and believe in Jesus Christ

Jesus Christ is Lord

 

[dumbozhina]

Atheism is depression masturbation, you are masturbating daily, your lack of virtue. You desperately need meaning so you make your own degeneracy and self-loathing your meaning. Repent and believe in Jesus Christ

the lowest form of religious people is those who thought they are morally superior to non believers.
obviously this is not true.
ironically this is also against jesus's teaching, who u claim to follow. but we all know christians are just hypocrites.

 

[dumbozhina]

They just copied it from the hegelian

read Engel's Ludwig Feuerbach and the End of Classical German Philosophy

Whats the difference

i dont think i can explain this in a post. find a standard history of philosophy text, and read the chapters from Decartes to Hegel.

 

[thevineyardworker]

the lowest form of religious people is those who thought they are morally superior to non believers.
obviously this is not true.
ironically this is also against jesus's teaching, who u claim to follow. but we all know christians are just hypocrites.

I dont think I have any more virtue than you, my God does. I have suffered with all of the same things you do, I used to be a materialistic agnostic. I phrased what I said poorly and in a condescending way, but I do not believe that I as a individual am better than you morally

 

[dumbozhina]

I dont think I have any more virtue than you, my God does. I have suffered with all of the same things you do, I used to be a materialistic agnostic.

i know u would say that. "i am no good, god is good".
christian know when to display false humility, that's why they are hypocrites.

I used to be a materialistic agnostic.

u are never a real materialist. u just follow what u are told. that's why u relapse to believing a copium religion.

 

[thevineyardworker]

i know u would say that. "i am no good, god is good".
christian know when to display false humility, that's why they are hypocrites.

God is objectively real, based on the improbabilities in the universe that verify this.

Christianity is the only religion that cannot be internally disproven.
Look into the improbably of the Gospels surviving antiquity for more improbabilities

 

[BasedGoyslopReviews]

Religion was so ppl with a conscience yet very short 30 year expectancy life could cope with their situation and give their life meaning. Otherwise they would all be nihilist, unproductive, go ER. with a scythe

 

[tired as fuck]

no its obedience I mean the abrahamic god unilatierally controls everything about your life what you can eat what you can say what you can even think

It's fear, obedience through fear. Not love. He's right about this. The Christian God is very different from the Judean one.

 

[tired as fuck]

God is objectively real

kek at this.

 

[dumbozhina]

God is objectively real, based on the improbabilities in the universe that verify this.

Christianity is the only religion that cannot be internally disproven.
Look into the improbably of the Gospels surviving antiquity for more improbabilities

i dont have time to do this with u. it's a bad use of my time.

 

[thevineyardworker]

i dont have time to do this with u. it's a bad use of my time.

 

[thevineyardworker]

kek at this.

ok

 

[esdeathlover]

ofc

It's fear, obedience through fear. Not love. He's right about this. The Christian God is very different from the Judean one.

 

[SrMartins]

This applies to Christianity (especially eastern traditions), Sufism, Hinduism, etc.
The basic structure is:
1. There is an Divine Essence/Absolute Truth/whatever u call it.
2. The worldly things, including one's perception, emotion, experience, is fleeting or unreal.
3. Therefore, seek union with the Divine Essence to rise above the world, be sanctified.
As the title suggests, this is just masturbation. A man imagines a perfect foid in his head, has sex with her ("Union"), and gains intense pleasure from the experience. During the experience, the body and mind is concentrated, and all other things are, momentarily, left behind.
The structure is complicated, just like sex.
Level1: the male is satisifed.
Level2: the male observes that the foid is satisfied. (sound, expression, faked orgasms, etc)
Level3: the male is happy that the foid is satisfied.
It's a feedback loop. So is "Union with God":
Level1: I love God.
Level2: the imaginary God loves me back.
Level3: I am moved that God also loves me. I love this imaginary God more.

religion was made by white folks to divide the people and force them to forever live in poverty

 

[BlackPilledNormi]

read Engel's Ludwig Feuerbach and the End of Classical German Philosophy

I did, they copied it

i dont think i can explain this in a post. find a standard history of philosophy text, and read the chapters from Decartes to Hegel.

They always say there would be a difference, but they never say what this difference is.
Which leaves me with, there is no difference.

And a general question, can you argue by yourself or cant you do anything else then point out someone elses work and say hey, I read this 200+ pages essay?
Thats just weak

 

[dumbozhina]

I did, they copied it

They always say there would be a difference, but they never say what this difference is.
Which leaves me with, there is no difference.

And a general question, can you argue by yourself or cant you do anything else then point out someone elses work and say hey, I read this 200+ pages essay?
Thats just weak

altough internet lets the dumbest ppl talk bs, dont make a fool of yourself.
if u dont want to read books, maybe u shouldnt talk about philosophy at all, or any other serious subjects. i dont have the time to explain anything to u. u are not worth the effort. education is not free. point u to a source is the most i will do.

 

[BlackPilledNormi]

if u dont want to read books, maybe u shouldnt talk about philosophy at all, or any other serious subjects. i dont have the time to explain anything to u. u are not worth the effort. education is not free. point u to a source is the most i will do.

To make this short, your an academic, who cant make a point by himself and who can do nothing but pointing out other peoples works.

Your tactic is just obvious, your just pointing out to that works instead of just making your point, because you hope I havent read them, so that I cant argue you.
Simply because you have no point. Your just betting and hope that I wont read 3 books within a week. Like I said weak from you.
And your saying I shouldnt talk about philosophy, you didnt do anything else but jerking of to your own library. (And you call religion masturbation)

Just argue by yourself and make your own point, anything else just proves me correct.
I can think for myself, I dont need to adress someone else as a prove, I can make my points with logical understanding.

 

[dumbozhina]

To make this short, your an academic, who cant make a point by himself and who can do nothing but pointing out other peoples works.

Your tactic is just obvious, your just pointing out to that works instead of just making your point, because you hope I havent read them, so that I cant argue you.
Simply because you have no point. Your just betting and hope that I wont read 3 books within a week. Like I said weak from you.
And your saying I shouldnt talk about philosophy, you didnt do anything else but jerking of to your own library. (And you call religion masturbation)

Just argue by yourself and make your own point, anything else just proves me correct.
I can think for myself, I dont need to adress someone else as a prove, I can make my points with logical understanding.

i can see u can't read a book, rather, u rely on your own " thinking", which, btw, is not even wrong . sorry kid this doesnt work for philosophy, or any other serious subjects. maybe works for 3rd grade maths. the Engels text is not a long one. wouldnt take more than an hour, the same is true for Ecclesiastes. but i guess u dont even know what Ecclesiastes is.
the reason i dont want to engage u is that u lack the intellectual calibre or willingness to learn. u are here to win an argument to satisfy your petty ego. as christians would say, don't throw pearls before swines. say what u want man. consider yourself the winner of this pointless argument.

 

[BlackPilledNormi]

sorry kid this doesnt work for philosophy, or any other serious subjects

Is that why socrates didnt think that his ideas shouldmt be written down, because of its a bad way of enlighten people. And Aristoteles wrote a whole thesis about corrosive influence of writing and reading? And how were the first philosophers able to philosophize when they couldnt read books of people before them?

the reason i dont want to engage u is that u lack the intellectual calibre or willingness to learn.

You really are an academic bourgeois.
And "intellectual calibre" you just mean I never sat in a university and havent read the same books as you. "Willingness to learn" just means I have a different opinion then you and dont have read other peoples thaughts to make a statement, which you still didnt do.

Your literally just a bad version of chatgpt

 

[garfield]

Which religion is the best for incels of you had to choose one?

 

[dumbozhina]

Which religion is the best for incels of you had to choose one?

islam wins in controling foids, also it makes u disciplined and masculine. buddhism is blackpilled, it could weaken ur desires and calm ur heart, but is too inward looking. other niche religions are not noteworthy.