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The idea of a "real man" is nothing but a shaming tactic employed by masculinityfags, troons and foids to have you do their dirty work for them. It is actually harmful for multiple reasons.

Real man real definition

Let's make one thing clear: anyone who has a cock, balls and Y chromosome is a "real man" by definition. Someone who was born as such will always be a man.

This is the only real definiton of a man.

The sociocultural notion of a "real man" is simply something foids and other males use to shame men who don't bend their knee for them and to attack their manhood.

Women and men have different reasons for pushing this garbage ideology:

For foids (2 reasons)

●If you don't look sexy enough to foids, they don't view you as a "real man" in the sense that foids view men (chads) as sexual objects, therefore if you aren't a sexual object to them (attractive) then you aren't a "real man" either. This is why incels are prone to face "not a real man" and "gay" allegations or insults.

● Even when a foid doesn't view a male as a sexual object, foids also value males as instruments for manual labor, personal servants, comforters or protectors. If you are too weak, short, meek (or actually just don't want to) to even play these roles, she has no use for you. If you can't do a macho job like construction, beating people up, policeman, etc then you aren't a "real man". Pretty much if you aren't willing to risk your life for a foid, you aren't a "real man".

If you're incapable of servicing a foid (wheter sexually or otherwise), then you are useless to them

For men (multiple reasons, various)

● Men want to impress foids, since they see foids use this logic, they also want to use it to dehumanize other males.

● Same as the second reason for foids, they want to make you do something or work for something. One example is military.

● They subconsciously want to eliminate competition. Some things that you do that they don't consider manly might actually give you some advantage, which is why they want to "shut it down". Take hair as an example, bald niggas hate men with long hair, so they will call you a "girl" out of jealousy (foids are programmed to be attracted to hair).

● Ogres just have a tendency to want to hurt or dominate weaker beings. Since they don't have any reason to care for you (men don't attack foids usually because they are blinded by their sexual desire) you're a perfect target. Bullying people is fun for many and makes them feel more powerful and better about themselves.

● They do it because they were programmed to. NPCs will emulate the things around them.

Real man fallacy is a breeding ground for troon ideology

Since "real man" bullshit seperates the definition of man from biology, it gives life to the idea that "gender is a social construct". If that's the case, then males who don't fit the "real man" label completely are actually women "trapped in the wrong bodies". "Men are made not born".

You like cooking food instead of going to the gym? You're a woman then! You played with plushies instead of toy tanks when you were four years old? You're a girl then! You have never had sex with a foid? You must be a fag! You like the color pink? You're a woman! You like being creative? You're pregnant! You brushed your hair? You must have a vagina between your legs, dude! You don't like beer? You're on your period, bitch!

Troons often rationalize their delusions with little nuggets from their childhood that would be considered more girly and thus not "real man" shit like "i played with x toys instead of y toys" that means i was born in the wrong body. But there is no such thing as the wrong body. You are your body. If you are male then you are a man and it doesn't matter what you do.

The hypocrisy of this ideology

No one accuses a woman of not being a real woman when she doesn't conform to some made-up norms that benefit males. She might be accused of being a bad woman, but it doesn't go further than that.

Some of the things that get you on the "not a real man" list are just obnoxious things. Things that men are rightfully shamed for but not foids like being bitchy, entitled wearing makeup, making a scene etc. This just shows gynocentrism and misandry once again. Foids are allowed to get away with anything and it will be excused but men are actually held to a standard.

Real man crap is a peasant ogre cope

Does anyone accuse a king of being not a real man because he doesn't want to personally fight in a war? Even if you did try shaming him like that, it wouldn't work because he is above you.

I always laugh when some bald gym ogre accuses some slayer prettyboy chadlite of "being a gay little bitch". It's just so absurd and comical, they really are overdosing on redpill delusions to escape reality.

Often ogres will also use the real man crap to make you suffer with them. Stuff like "fair fights" or "running away is cowardly", they don't want you to act in your own self-interest. The only thing an ogre has is his raw strenght, if you pull out a gun or run away faster than him, he loses all his power.

Many important men were not "real men". Most philosophers, rulers, artists etc did what they wanted without falling for such traps along the way. Because those were created for the ogres beneath them.
 
2 things.

1. Everything is extremely true


2. troonoids have infected the west irreparably, I'm afraid
 
Good post, this is the stuff that feminists should be against in theory but instead they are the first to talk about Napoleon complexes and "small dick energy" whenever a man does not look/behave the way women want.

The macho retards who employ these tactics to suck up to women are just a different flavor of simp/betabux. May Allah grant them dead bedroom relationships and divorce rapes.
 
Good post, this is the stuff that feminists should be against in theory but instead they are the first to talk about Napoleon complexes and "small dick energy" whenever a man does not look/behave the way women want.
They are all about body positivity up until it's about men.
The macho retards who employ these tactics to suck up to women are just a different flavor of simp/betabux.
They are the redpill faction of the whiteknight coalition.
 
IF YOU ARENT A REAL MAN YOU ARE FAG TROON :chad:
 
I didn't read this, but I had written something that's the opposite of what you're saying. I hadn't posted it until now:

While I don't support Simone de Beauvoir because I think she supported homosexuality, there's something interesting she said: "one is not born, but rather becomes, a woman." I think I've seen someone say this is about supporting transgenderism, but that's not what I think this quote could necessarily mean despite whatever she actually meant. I think to become a woman, a woman should be a mother. If a woman has not reproduced she should not be treated as a woman. Feminism is about supporting women and those who aren't real women shouldn't be supported. How does reproduction make a woman a woman? A woman is defined by her ability to create children. Saying a woman who doesn't reproduce is a woman is like saying a man with plumbing tools he never uses is a plumber or saying a chef who never cooks is a chef. In fact, contrary to the idea I don't agree with, I think this quote is actually against transgenderism because transgender people can't reproduce - they're not really women.
 
I didn't read this, but I had written something that's the opposite of what you're saying. I hadn't posted it until now:
I would say they are still women, just bad women.
 
Great points. Doesn't this also apply to avatars then? If biological sex is what defines a man, then using a foid avatar doesn't automatically make someone ''unmanly'' either.
 
Great points. Doesn't this also apply to avatars then? If biological sex is what defines a man, then using a foid avatar doesn't automatically make someone ''unmanly'' either.
I guess you can spin it that way, but it also brings up the question of why you want to portray yourself as a woman. In .is, it's less about being manly or whatever, people just collectively dislike foids and bringing a foid picture can irritate some.
 
I would say they are still women, just bad women.
Perhaps if a woman hasn't reproduced, she's still a girl. She hasn't taken on the responsibilities of an adult woman. She shouldn't be idolized.
 
IF YOU ARENT A REAL MAN YOU ARE FAG TROON :chad:
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Real man = slave man.
 
Real Man = 6ft+ and Attractive
 
The idea of a "real man" is nothing but a shaming tactic employed by masculinityfags, troons and foids to have you do their dirty work for them. It is actually harmful for multiple reasons.

Real man real definition

Let's make one thing clear: anyone who has a cock, balls and Y chromosome is a "real man" by definition. Someone who was born as such will always be a man.

This is the only real definiton of a man.

The sociocultural notion of a "real man" is simply something foids and other males use to shame men who don't bend their knee for them and to attack their manhood.

Women and men have different reasons for pushing this garbage ideology:

For foids (2 reasons)

●If you don't look sexy enough to foids, they don't view you as a "real man" in the sense that foids view men (chads) as sexual objects, therefore if you aren't a sexual object to them (attractive) then you aren't a "real man" either. This is why incels are prone to face "not a real man" and "gay" allegations or insults.

● Even when a foid doesn't view a male as a sexual object, foids also value males as instruments for manual labor, personal servants, comforters or protectors. If you are too weak, short, meek (or actually just don't want to) to even play these roles, she has no use for you. If you can't do a macho job like construction, beating people up, policeman, etc then you aren't a "real man". Pretty much if you aren't willing to risk your life for a foid, you aren't a "real man".

If you're incapable of servicing a foid (wheter sexually or otherwise), then you are useless to them

For men (multiple reasons, various)

● Men want to impress foids, since they see foids use this logic, they also want to use it to dehumanize other males.

● Same as the second reason for foids, they want to make you do something or work for something. One example is military.

● They subconsciously want to eliminate competition. Some things that you do that they don't consider manly might actually give you some advantage, which is why they want to "shut it down". Take hair as an example, bald niggas hate men with long hair, so they will call you a "girl" out of jealousy (foids are programmed to be attracted to hair).

● Ogres just have a tendency to want to hurt or dominate weaker beings. Since they don't have any reason to care for you (men don't attack foids usually because they are blinded by their sexual desire) you're a perfect target. Bullying people is fun for many and makes them feel more powerful and better about themselves.

● They do it because they were programmed to. NPCs will emulate the things around them.

Real man fallacy is a breeding ground for troon ideology

Since "real man" bullshit seperates the definition of man from biology, it gives life to the idea that "gender is a social construct". If that's the case, then males who don't fit the "real man" label completely are actually women "trapped in the wrong bodies". "Men are made not born".

You like cooking food instead of going to the gym? You're a woman then! You played with plushies instead of toy tanks when you were four years old? You're a girl then! You have never had sex with a foid? You must be a fag! You like the color pink? You're a woman! You like being creative? You're pregnant! You brushed your hair? You must have a vagina between your legs, dude! You don't like beer? You're on your period, bitch!

Troons often rationalize their delusions with little nuggets from their childhood that would be considered more girly and thus not "real man" shit like "i played with x toys instead of y toys" that means i was born in the wrong body. But there is no such thing as the wrong body. You are your body. If you are male then you are a man and it doesn't matter what you do.

The hypocrisy of this ideology

No one accuses a woman of not being a real woman when she doesn't conform to some made-up norms that benefit males. She might be accused of being a bad woman, but it doesn't go further than that.

Some of the things that get you on the "not a real man" list are just obnoxious things. Things that men are rightfully shamed for but not foids like being bitchy, entitled wearing makeup, making a scene etc. This just shows gynocentrism and misandry once again. Foids are allowed to get away with anything and it will be excused but men are actually held to a standard.

Real man crap is a peasant ogre cope

Does anyone accuse a king of being not a real man because he doesn't want to personally fight in a war? Even if you did try shaming him like that, it wouldn't work because he is above you.

I always laugh when some bald gym ogre accuses some slayer prettyboy chadlite of "being a gay little bitch". It's just so absurd and comical, they really are overdosing on redpill delusions to escape reality.

Often ogres will also use the real man crap to make you suffer with them. Stuff like "fair fights" or "running away is cowardly", they don't want you to act in your own self-interest. The only thing an ogre has is his raw strenght, if you pull out a gun or run away faster than him, he loses all his power.

Many important men were not "real men". Most philosophers, rulers, artists etc did what they wanted without falling for such traps along the way. Because those were created for the ogres beneath them.
Bookmarked. Not only this "real men" rhetoric is very much used by normies and foids, to de humanize and denigrate those who aren't considered a idealized version of their view of manhood, but there are many attempts that they do to put down some ugly male's value.

That being said, subhumans and ugly males who are meek and well-behaved tend to be the most aimed group to receive demoralizing insults and denigrating assumptions about their manhood, presence and existence as males.

Normies and foids will use various denigrating rhetorics, insults and opinions to put down even more those who are not viewed as a man in their eyes. It's just like bullying, but it is different because it tries to lower the male that they don't like and despise much more.
 
The modern definition of being a “real man” is being a cuck
 
High IQ as fuck
 
They subconsciously want to eliminate competition. Some things that you do that they don't consider manly might actually give you some advantage, which is why they want to "shut it down". Take hair as an example, bald niggas hate men with long hair, so they will call you a "girl" out of jealousy (foids are programmed to be attracted to hair).
Bro has something against baldcels :lul:
 
That being said, subhumans and ugly males who are meek and well-behaved tend to be the most aimed group to receive demoralizing insults and denigrating assumptions about their manhood, presence and existence as males.
 
Great post !!!!
 
No one gives a fuck about men
 
the "real men" they speak of are the bulk of cattle slaves that keep this world running
 
"Real women" have gone extinct
 
Any woman who uses that phrase deserves to be punched in the mouth. They dont get to define what makes me a man. I define it because I am one.
 
The idea of a "real man" is nothing but a shaming tactic employed by masculinityfags, troons and foids to have you do their dirty work for them. It is actually harmful for multiple reasons.

Real man real definition

Let's make one thing clear: anyone who has a cock, balls and Y chromosome is a "real man" by definition. Someone who was born as such will always be a man.

This is the only real definiton of a man.

The sociocultural notion of a "real man" is simply something foids and other males use to shame men who don't bend their knee for them and to attack their manhood.

Women and men have different reasons for pushing this garbage ideology:

For foids (2 reasons)

●If you don't look sexy enough to foids, they don't view you as a "real man" in the sense that foids view men (chads) as sexual objects, therefore if you aren't a sexual object to them (attractive) then you aren't a "real man" either. This is why incels are prone to face "not a real man" and "gay" allegations or insults.

● Even when a foid doesn't view a male as a sexual object, foids also value males as instruments for manual labor, personal servants, comforters or protectors. If you are too weak, short, meek (or actually just don't want to) to even play these roles, she has no use for you. If you can't do a macho job like construction, beating people up, policeman, etc then you aren't a "real man". Pretty much if you aren't willing to risk your life for a foid, you aren't a "real man".

If you're incapable of servicing a foid (wheter sexually or otherwise), then you are useless to them

For men (multiple reasons, various)

● Men want to impress foids, since they see foids use this logic, they also want to use it to dehumanize other males.

● Same as the second reason for foids, they want to make you do something or work for something. One example is military.

● They subconsciously want to eliminate competition. Some things that you do that they don't consider manly might actually give you some advantage, which is why they want to "shut it down". Take hair as an example, bald niggas hate men with long hair, so they will call you a "girl" out of jealousy (foids are programmed to be attracted to hair).

● Ogres just have a tendency to want to hurt or dominate weaker beings. Since they don't have any reason to care for you (men don't attack foids usually because they are blinded by their sexual desire) you're a perfect target. Bullying people is fun for many and makes them feel more powerful and better about themselves.

● They do it because they were programmed to. NPCs will emulate the things around them.

Real man fallacy is a breeding ground for troon ideology

Since "real man" bullshit seperates the definition of man from biology, it gives life to the idea that "gender is a social construct". If that's the case, then males who don't fit the "real man" label completely are actually women "trapped in the wrong bodies". "Men are made not born".

You like cooking food instead of going to the gym? You're a woman then! You played with plushies instead of toy tanks when you were four years old? You're a girl then! You have never had sex with a foid? You must be a fag! You like the color pink? You're a woman! You like being creative? You're pregnant! You brushed your hair? You must have a vagina between your legs, dude! You don't like beer? You're on your period, bitch!

Troons often rationalize their delusions with little nuggets from their childhood that would be considered more girly and thus not "real man" shit like "i played with x toys instead of y toys" that means i was born in the wrong body. But there is no such thing as the wrong body. You are your body. If you are male then you are a man and it doesn't matter what you do.

The hypocrisy of this ideology

No one accuses a woman of not being a real woman when she doesn't conform to some made-up norms that benefit males. She might be accused of being a bad woman, but it doesn't go further than that.

Some of the things that get you on the "not a real man" list are just obnoxious things. Things that men are rightfully shamed for but not foids like being bitchy, entitled wearing makeup, making a scene etc. This just shows gynocentrism and misandry once again. Foids are allowed to get away with anything and it will be excused but men are actually held to a standard.

Real man crap is a peasant ogre cope

Does anyone accuse a king of being not a real man because he doesn't want to personally fight in a war? Even if you did try shaming him like that, it wouldn't work because he is above you.

I always laugh when some bald gym ogre accuses some slayer prettyboy chadlite of "being a gay little bitch". It's just so absurd and comical, they really are overdosing on redpill delusions to escape reality.

Often ogres will also use the real man crap to make you suffer with them. Stuff like "fair fights" or "running away is cowardly", they don't want you to act in your own self-interest. The only thing an ogre has is his raw strenght, if you pull out a gun or run away faster than him, he loses all his power.

Many important men were not "real men". Most philosophers, rulers, artists etc did what they wanted without falling for such traps along the way. Because those were created for the ogres beneath them.
letting women dictate what a man is, was one of the most retarded things society ever did
 
The whole thing is a contradiction. If you do all this nonsense just to be perceived as a real man aren't you "beta" because you're just changing yourself for what society wants?
 
The idea of a "real man" is nothing but a shaming tactic employed by masculinityfags, troons and foids to have you do their dirty work for them. It is actually harmful for multiple reasons.

Real man real definition

Let's make one thing clear: anyone who has a cock, balls and Y chromosome is a "real man" by definition. Someone who was born as such will always be a man.

This is the only real definiton of a man.

The sociocultural notion of a "real man" is simply something foids and other males use to shame men who don't bend their knee for them and to attack their manhood.

Women and men have different reasons for pushing this garbage ideology:

For foids (2 reasons)

●If you don't look sexy enough to foids, they don't view you as a "real man" in the sense that foids view men (chads) as sexual objects, therefore if you aren't a sexual object to them (attractive) then you aren't a "real man" either. This is why incels are prone to face "not a real man" and "gay" allegations or insults.

● Even when a foid doesn't view a male as a sexual object, foids also value males as instruments for manual labor, personal servants, comforters or protectors. If you are too weak, short, meek (or actually just don't want to) to even play these roles, she has no use for you. If you can't do a macho job like construction, beating people up, policeman, etc then you aren't a "real man". Pretty much if you aren't willing to risk your life for a foid, you aren't a "real man".

If you're incapable of servicing a foid (wheter sexually or otherwise), then you are useless to them

For men (multiple reasons, various)

● Men want to impress foids, since they see foids use this logic, they also want to use it to dehumanize other males.

● Same as the second reason for foids, they want to make you do something or work for something. One example is military.

● They subconsciously want to eliminate competition. Some things that you do that they don't consider manly might actually give you some advantage, which is why they want to "shut it down". Take hair as an example, bald niggas hate men with long hair, so they will call you a "girl" out of jealousy (foids are programmed to be attracted to hair).

● Ogres just have a tendency to want to hurt or dominate weaker beings. Since they don't have any reason to care for you (men don't attack foids usually because they are blinded by their sexual desire) you're a perfect target. Bullying people is fun for many and makes them feel more powerful and better about themselves.

● They do it because they were programmed to. NPCs will emulate the things around them.

Real man fallacy is a breeding ground for troon ideology

Since "real man" bullshit seperates the definition of man from biology, it gives life to the idea that "gender is a social construct". If that's the case, then males who don't fit the "real man" label completely are actually women "trapped in the wrong bodies". "Men are made not born".

You like cooking food instead of going to the gym? You're a woman then! You played with plushies instead of toy tanks when you were four years old? You're a girl then! You have never had sex with a foid? You must be a fag! You like the color pink? You're a woman! You like being creative? You're pregnant! You brushed your hair? You must have a vagina between your legs, dude! You don't like beer? You're on your period, bitch!

Troons often rationalize their delusions with little nuggets from their childhood that would be considered more girly and thus not "real man" shit like "i played with x toys instead of y toys" that means i was born in the wrong body. But there is no such thing as the wrong body. You are your body. If you are male then you are a man and it doesn't matter what you do.

The hypocrisy of this ideology

No one accuses a woman of not being a real woman when she doesn't conform to some made-up norms that benefit males. She might be accused of being a bad woman, but it doesn't go further than that.

Some of the things that get you on the "not a real man" list are just obnoxious things. Things that men are rightfully shamed for but not foids like being bitchy, entitled wearing makeup, making a scene etc. This just shows gynocentrism and misandry once again. Foids are allowed to get away with anything and it will be excused but men are actually held to a standard.

Real man crap is a peasant ogre cope

Does anyone accuse a king of being not a real man because he doesn't want to personally fight in a war? Even if you did try shaming him like that, it wouldn't work because he is above you.

I always laugh when some bald gym ogre accuses some slayer prettyboy chadlite of "being a gay little bitch". It's just so absurd and comical, they really are overdosing on redpill delusions to escape reality.

Often ogres will also use the real man crap to make you suffer with them. Stuff like "fair fights" or "running away is cowardly", they don't want you to act in your own self-interest. The only thing an ogre has is his raw strenght, if you pull out a gun or run away faster than him, he loses all his power.

Many important men were not "real men". Most philosophers, rulers, artists etc did what they wanted without falling for such traps along the way. Because those were created for the ogres beneath them.
Fuck foids
 
The whole thing is a contradiction. If you do all this nonsense just to be perceived as a real man aren't you "beta" because you're just changing yourself for what society wants?
many contradictions in the gynocracy :feelskek: :smonk: that's why the less retarded of us end up here instead of trying to bux a used up single mom :feelskek:
 
This is why incels are prone to face "not a real man" and "gay" allegations or insults.
I got accused of not wanting a girlfriend and/or being gay, because I didn't (and still don't) have a girlfriend. It's not enough that I get rejected, they still spread fake news about me.
 
Real man real definition

Let's make one thing clear: anyone who has a cock, balls and Y chromosome is a "real man" by definition. Someone who was born as such will always be a man.

This is the only real definiton of a man.

The sociocultural notion of a "real man" is simply something foids and other males use to shame men who don't bend their knee for them and to attack their manhood.
Real man fallacy is a breeding ground for troon ideology

Since "real man" bullshit seperates the definition of man from biology, it gives life to the idea that "gender is a social construct". If that's the case, then males who don't fit the "real man" label completely are actually women "trapped in the wrong bodies". "Men are made not born".

You like cooking food instead of going to the gym? You're a woman then! You played with plushies instead of toy tanks when you were four years old? You're a girl then! You have never had sex with a foid? You must be a fag! You like the color pink? You're a woman! You like being creative? You're pregnant! You brushed your hair? You must have a vagina between your legs, dude! You don't like beer? You're on your period, bitch!

Troons often rationalize their delusions with little nuggets from their childhood that would be considered more girly and thus not "real man" shit like "i played with x toys instead of y toys" that means i was born in the wrong body. But there is no such thing as the wrong body. You are your body. If you are male then you are a man and it doesn't matter what you do.

Banger thread, you've put much more eloquently what I was trying to get at two years ago:
Sane person defines "man" as someone born with male genitals and XY chromosomes, and respectively woman as someone with female genitals and XX chromosomes. If a man doesn't have typically "manly" physical traits, then that means he either has some genetic disorder or had other diseases/health problems messing with his hormones during youth. He's still a man.
Similarly, a woman who is build like an ogre and has unshaven hair under her nose is still a woman, just a manly looking one.

Modern leftists accept calling anyone who acts feminine "woman" if they so desire - a man wearing a dress is a woman to them, because what makes you a woman is the way you act.
Right wingers define "man" as someone who does (x y z ... + n) (the joke is that the list never ends) and acts/looks masculine, anyone who doesn't is "not a real man", or is even a woman (e.g. "stop acting like a woman!") - a man wearing a dress is a woman to them, because what makes you a man is the way you act.
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THEY BELIEVE SAME SHIT LMAO WHY ARE THEY EVEN ARGUING :lul::lul::lul:
 
I got accused of not wanting a girlfriend and/or being gay, because I didn't (and still don't) have a girlfriend. It's not enough that I get rejected, they still spread fake news about me.
People need to mind their own Shit
 
I got accused of not wanting a girlfriend and/or being gay, because I didn't (and still don't) have a girlfriend. It's not enough that I get rejected, they still spread fake news about me.
That's awful, normies are vile
 
Banger thread, you've put much more eloquently what I was trying to get at two years ago:
Great minds think alike. Yes, cuckservatives and liberals are two sides of the same coin
 
Masculinity is gay; I've never been accepted by other men because I'm ugly and short, so there's no difference between feminism and masculinity. If I had at least been accepted into groups of friends, my life would be more interesting, even if I were single.
 
'real men' talk is just a way to coerce you back into slave labor, as this is what a man's life is worth to our utilitarian society and to women as a whole. you are meant to be a tool and once you are no longer useful, meant to be discarted
 
Masculinity is gay; I've never been accepted by other men because I'm ugly and short, so there's no difference between feminism and masculinity. If I had at least been accepted into groups of friends, my life would be more interesting, even if I were single.
I vehemently disagree. Andrew Tate isn't masculinity. Hulk Hogan isn't masculinity. Charles Murras is masculinity. Elon Musk is masculinity.
The idea of a "real man" is nothing but a shaming tactic employed by masculinityfags, troons and foids to have you do their dirty work for them. It is actually harmful for multiple reasons.

Real man real definition

Let's make one thing clear: anyone who has a cock, balls and Y chromosome is a "real man" by definition. Someone who was born as such will always be a man.

This is the only real definiton of a man.

The sociocultural notion of a "real man" is simply something foids and other males use to shame men who don't bend their knee for them and to attack their manhood.

Women and men have different reasons for pushing this garbage ideology:

For foids (2 reasons)

●If you don't look sexy enough to foids, they don't view you as a "real man" in the sense that foids view men (chads) as sexual objects, therefore if you aren't a sexual object to them (attractive) then you aren't a "real man" either. This is why incels are prone to face "not a real man" and "gay" allegations or insults.

● Even when a foid doesn't view a male as a sexual object, foids also value males as instruments for manual labor, personal servants, comforters or protectors. If you are too weak, short, meek (or actually just don't want to) to even play these roles, she has no use for you. If you can't do a macho job like construction, beating people up, policeman, etc then you aren't a "real man". Pretty much if you aren't willing to risk your life for a foid, you aren't a "real man".

If you're incapable of servicing a foid (wheter sexually or otherwise), then you are useless to them

For men (multiple reasons, various)

● Men want to impress foids, since they see foids use this logic, they also want to use it to dehumanize other males.

● Same as the second reason for foids, they want to make you do something or work for something. One example is military.

● They subconsciously want to eliminate competition. Some things that you do that they don't consider manly might actually give you some advantage, which is why they want to "shut it down". Take hair as an example, bald niggas hate men with long hair, so they will call you a "girl" out of jealousy (foids are programmed to be attracted to hair).

● Ogres just have a tendency to want to hurt or dominate weaker beings. Since they don't have any reason to care for you (men don't attack foids usually because they are blinded by their sexual desire) you're a perfect target. Bullying people is fun for many and makes them feel more powerful and better about themselves.

● They do it because they were programmed to. NPCs will emulate the things around them.

Real man fallacy is a breeding ground for troon ideology

Since "real man" bullshit seperates the definition of man from biology, it gives life to the idea that "gender is a social construct". If that's the case, then males who don't fit the "real man" label completely are actually women "trapped in the wrong bodies". "Men are made not born".

You like cooking food instead of going to the gym? You're a woman then! You played with plushies instead of toy tanks when you were four years old? You're a girl then! You have never had sex with a foid? You must be a fag! You like the color pink? You're a woman! You like being creative? You're pregnant! You brushed your hair? You must have a vagina between your legs, dude! You don't like beer? You're on your period, bitch!

Troons often rationalize their delusions with little nuggets from their childhood that would be considered more girly and thus not "real man" shit like "i played with x toys instead of y toys" that means i was born in the wrong body. But there is no such thing as the wrong body. You are your body. If you are male then you are a man and it doesn't matter what you do.

The hypocrisy of this ideology

No one accuses a woman of not being a real woman when she doesn't conform to some made-up norms that benefit males. She might be accused of being a bad woman, but it doesn't go further than that.

Some of the things that get you on the "not a real man" list are just obnoxious things. Things that men are rightfully shamed for but not foids like being bitchy, entitled wearing makeup, making a scene etc. This just shows gynocentrism and misandry once again. Foids are allowed to get away with anything and it will be excused but men are actually held to a standard.

Real man crap is a peasant ogre cope

Does anyone accuse a king of being not a real man because he doesn't want to personally fight in a war? Even if you did try shaming him like that, it wouldn't work because he is above you.

I always laugh when some bald gym ogre accuses some slayer prettyboy chadlite of "being a gay little bitch". It's just so absurd and comical, they really are overdosing on redpill delusions to escape reality.

Often ogres will also use the real man crap to make you suffer with them. Stuff like "fair fights" or "running away is cowardly", they don't want you to act in your own self-interest. The only thing an ogre has is his raw strenght, if you pull out a gun or run away faster than him, he loses all his power.

Many important men were not "real men". Most philosophers, rulers, artists etc did what they wanted without falling for such traps along the way. Because those were created for the ogres beneath them.
I agree with this to a degree, likely we can only attain Pauline masculinity by going through Viking masculinity and out the other side. Female sex choice is likely to be conquered by men practicing Viking masculinity since no one will defend the women since all there would are cucks and simps who are effeminate, I guess we can employ the others or combine them like the Mormon solution (control women’s socialization) plus the orthodox Jewish solution (make female status artificially low), something in between those or just a combination.
 
●If you don't look sexy enough to foids, they don't view you as a "real man" in the sense that foids view men (chads) as sexual objects, therefore if you aren't a sexual object to them (attractive) then you aren't a "real man" either. This is why incels are prone to face "not a real man" and "gay" allegations or insults.
"Not sexually attractive enough" is equated with "not being a real man". This truthleaks the fact that love and sexuality is considered a significant part of life.

IQ 160 post.

"but you don't understand bro, sex isn't everything in life:soy:"
Those who say that couldn't live long without it.
 

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