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Spam approaching / cold approaching hundreds of girls is bound to produce a positive result at some point

Your rate of success will of course be abysmal compared to if you were Chad.

However, after cold approaching hundreds, you are bound sooner or later to find a "blue lobster" who will condescend to fuck you: a weird girl born with a defective sense of aesthetics or no right fusiform gyrus (brain part that allows for the recognition of faces), a girl with no self-esteem, a girl just out of prison, an immigrant girl living in misery, a girl looking to make her ex boyfriend angry by fucking the ugliest man she can find, etc.

The only "catch" is that you risk clinical depression as a result of so many ego-crushing rejections.
 
lol I don't see the point after 100 rejections. How is it even an achievement? I would legit feel worse than if I never approached a female. You already lost if it's a numbers game
 
lol I don't see the point after 100 rejections. How is it even an achievement? I would legit feel worse than if I never approached a female. You already lost if it's a numbers game
Yup that's why I don't cold approach. Most men don't try cold approaching because they instinctively know their rate of rejection will be soul-shattering. Sex in a lucky one night stand doesn't make up for the fact most girls hated your guts.
 
Spam approaching / cold approaching hundreds of girls is bound to produce a positive result at some point
I need sources on this. @uninstall has been failing pretty spectacularly.
 
I need sources on this. @uninstall has been failing pretty spectacularly.

Replace hundreds by thousands if you wish. Statistically you're bound to find a weird girl sooner or later.
 
Statistically, yes. But numbers depend on factors. Is the person attempting to pick up a specific type of girl, or anyone who his eyes settled upon? The chances get smaller depending on factors. Why bother at that point then?
 
Replace hundreds by thousands if you wish. Statistically you're bound to find a weird girl sooner or later.
This. Remember boyos, mutations exist. She could be so genetically messed up she finds you to be attractive.
 
I will reach 100 approaches this month and will need one of the next 16 girls I approach to go on a date for me to have one date from 100 approaches.

If I can't get one date from 100 approaches, it's hard to see it ever going anywhere.
 
Statistically, yes. But numbers depend on factors. Is the person attempting to pick up a specific type of girl, or anyone who his eyes settled upon? The chances get smaller depending on factors. Why bother at that point then?
Personally I would go for "alternative girls" (goth, colored hair, piercings) and girls who look tired or depressed to improve my chances. Depressed and bipolar girls can sometimes have such low self-esteem they will fuck anything.

Ie go from 1/2000 chances to 1/1000 maybe.
 
lol I don't see the point after 100 rejections. How is it even an achievement? I would legit feel worse than if I never approached a female. You already lost if it's a numbers game
 
You are not an incel if you haven't done what our nigga @uninstall did
 
lol I don't see the point after 100 rejections. How is it even an achievement? I would legit feel worse than if I never approached a female. You already lost if it's a numbers game
this
 
Cold approach does not work not even for chadlites man.

I think cold approaching is one of the useless and dumbest things that a man can do in life.
You are not an incel if you haven't done what our nigga @uninstall did
Is FACEandLMS the guy from your photo??
 
I haven't completely followed his thread. What was his success rate?
300 rejections.
Cold approach does not work not even for chadlites man.

I think cold approaching is one of the useless and dumbest things that a man can do in life.

Is FACEandLMS the guy from your photo??
Cold-approach is indeed futile if you aren't a chad. Yes it's him
 
Never forget that getting a number or a date is not necessarily a success. As seen in @uninstall case 300 approches wont be enough as a trucel to even get a number. So maybe a truecel can get one number in 1000 approches. Probably more tbh. So u now have the number and that's probably it. U can fuck up from there easy. Maybe chatting with her is bad. Maybe u will fail at the date. Maybe u will say something wrong. Maybe she will just change her mind. Rember we aren't Chad so we would still have to work very hard to have success even if we get a number. So probably 1 out of a 100 "number close" would end up in a sucess for a truecel. That means 100.000 approches for a one night stand and the girl then is probably not even pretty.

100.000 maybe u can do 20 a day. That would be alot already tbh. Even Uninstall can't do that many approach each day yet. But still. It would take 5000 days if u do 20 approches a day. That are almost 14 years :feelsgah::feelsgah:.
 
I need sources on this. @uninstall has been failing pretty spectacularly.
I feel like I need a better idea of what he's going for. If it's mainly 7+ white stacies, I can see him reach pretty close to 1000 without a single hit, combined with his awkward approaches.

He has a MUCH better chance if he runs JBW game and hits up all ethnics as well, especially if he's a mentalcel on top of a lookscel.
 
Ethnics are really only a thing in several euro capital cities and the anglosphere. He doesn't sound like a native anglospeaker so I doubt he has those around.
 
Women exist that have a very damaged perception on beauty/proportions. The only girl I ever dated also happened to be a bulimic, she would train ice skating all day without eating, at some point she weighted 28kg and they hospitalized her in a mental hospital for a while, I happened to be in the same hospital for aggressive behavior, bulimics really see themselves (and other people differently) she would say that the chaddest chad was fat, it also seemed that she ignored all other physical attributes except weight, which gave me an edge since I'm a skeletoncel.
 
Giga bluepill.

There are incels who have hundreds, and sometimes thousands of rejections yet are still KHV.
 
I'm considering making a youtube channel approaching women. I am uglier than most guys on this website so it will give a good reference point for if works or not. I will do 1000 approaches before the end of the year in a variety of settings
 
Spam approaching / cold approaching hundreds of girls is bound to produce a positive result at some point

Your rate of success will of course be abysmal compared to if you were Chad.

However, after cold approaching hundreds, you are bound sooner or later to find a "blue lobster" who will condescend to fuck you: a weird girl born with a defective sense of aesthetics or no right fusiform gyrus (brain part that allows for the recognition of faces), a girl with no self-esteem, a girl just out of prison, an immigrant girl living in misery, a girl looking to make her ex boyfriend angry by fucking the ugliest man she can find, etc.

The only "catch" is that you risk clinical depression as a result of so many ego-crushing rejections.

most of the girls who'll fuck non-chads from pickup are late 20s early 30s hoes who still want to fuck young guys and are really horny that night
 
if you get rejected on a regular basis i think that's a mirror to who you really are and there is no point in trying.
 
I call it the Boomhauer technique. Really every male has to do it to an extent because even Chad faces lots of rejection -- he just keeps it under wraps. Women are hive-minded. Thus if you can simply create the perception that women want you, more women will want you.

Personally I would go for "alternative girls" (goth, colored hair, piercings) and girls who look tired or depressed to improve my chances. Depressed and bipolar girls can sometimes have such low self-esteem they will fuck anything.

Ie go from 1/2000 chances to 1/1000 maybe.

Personally I love "alternative" girls. Not so much their attitudes, but their looks. That said many of them are actually more stuck-up than normie Pumpkin-Spice Stacies. They ALL think they're "models" because aspiring local photographers take heavily photoshopped pics of them, and tons of normie guys hit on them thinking they'll be easy, in turn making them super stuck up like any other women.
 
I cold approached well over 100 foids in my PUA days. Every single one rejected me.
 
most if not all of the successful PUAs are mentalcel normies.

lets take Mark Manson, author of the very popular bluepill book "models" in which he realizes pua is kind of retarded and all anyone can do is "be themselves" and "be vulnerable" "face rejection" this is essentially faggot talk for: just hit on women and keep trying. Well, he looks like this:
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This is exactly the kind of guy who just needs to leave his house and get the socialization he missed out on during his formative years because his retard parents let him sit in his room every afternoon playing videogames non stop. He's not chad, he's not going to sluts up the arse in a nightclub bathroom, but his success rate is high enough that approaching women feels like a rewarding life invigorating activity instead of a endless cycle of humiliation and rejection.

Lets consider one of the industry's most famous OG's, Mystery:
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Mystery is fucking 6'5 with a well developed face, just check out his jawline in comparison to presumably what are hopeful students in this photo. Mysterys whole story about becoming a PUA is basically the age old story of "i was a massive geek as a teen and missed out on socialization and then it seemed like a monumental task by the time i hit my 20s". The irony is, mystery probably scared more potential mates off with his faggot routine and bizarre getup, his success rate probably wouldve been HIGHER without the nonsense.
 
Spam approaching / cold approaching hundreds of girls is bound to produce a positive result at some point

Your rate of success will of course be abysmal compared to if you were Chad.

However, after cold approaching hundreds, you are bound sooner or later to find a "blue lobster" who will condescend to fuck you: a weird girl born with a defective sense of aesthetics or no right fusiform gyrus (brain part that allows for the recognition of faces), a girl with no self-esteem, a girl just out of prison, an immigrant girl living in misery, a girl looking to make her ex boyfriend angry by fucking the ugliest man she can find, etc.

The only "catch" is that you risk clinical depression as a result of so many ego-crushing rejections.

But here is the issue man. You see, women don't like desperate men, they are repulsed by them. This is why everyone hates incels so much. Its kind of like quicksand, the harder you struggle against being a KHV incel, you will go even deeper into loneliness. Women can feel and smell desperation like fucking hounds. They will hate you, deny you, ridicule you, try to ruin your life, and spread rumors about you, which will quickly compromise the already minuscule shot you used to have at getting a 2/10 girl.

Well either that or, girls will take advantage of you for being desperate, by spending your money or otherwise fucking you over.
 
But here is the issue man. You see, women don't like desperate men, they are repulsed by them. This is why everyone hates incels so much. Its kind of like quicksand, the harder you struggle against being a KHV incel, you will go even deeper into loneliness. Women can feel and smell desperation like fucking hounds. They will hate you, deny you, ridicule you, try to ruin your life, and spread rumors about you, which will quickly compromise the already minuscule shot you used to have at getting a 2/10 girl.

Well either that or, girls will take advantage of you for being desperate, by spending your money or otherwise fucking you over.

this is true, they turn into snakes as soon as they realise you need them more than they need you
 
But here is the issue man. You see, women don't like desperate men, they are repulsed by them. This is why everyone hates incels so much. Its kind of like quicksand, the harder you struggle against being a KHV incel, you will go even deeper into loneliness. Women can feel and smell desperation like fucking hounds. They will hate you, deny you, ridicule you, try to ruin your life, and spread rumors about you, which will quickly compromise the already minuscule shot you used to have at getting a 2/10 girl.

Well either that or, girls will take advantage of you for being desperate, by spending your money or otherwise fucking you over.

That's not true. If you are good looking u can be desperate or have depression or whatever. Foids would find it interesting then. It's all about looks and nothing else.
 
alproaching as an ugly male just makes you more creepy, Foids warn eachover on Facebook to avoid any sub 7 males
 
What are the chances there is a Stacy who finds ugly men attractive as if they were chad?
0.000000001%
 
alproaching as an ugly male just makes you more creepy, Foids warn eachover on Facebook to avoid any sub 7 males
amazing given how many of these bitches will eventually have to train themselves to smile and nod at betabucks
 
I am already depressed and rejections can make me suicidal.
 

larp

15k approaches requires a lifetime
 
alproaching as an ugly male just makes you more creepy, Foids warn eachover on Facebook to avoid any sub 7 males

This. If you got rejected by a girl and you date another, in the case they know each other it's game over enough times. The first will brag to the second, and next thing you know she drops you too.
 
lol I don't see the point after 100 rejections. How is it even an achievement? I would legit feel worse than if I never approached a female. You already lost if it's a numbers game
You get to brag about how much more incel you are on here.
Also, cold approaching only works if you take care of yourself, if you're a fat slob with unkempt hair and baggy clothes, don't even think that cold approaches will work for you.
 
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