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I am a 32 year old khv, and thinking very seriously about the possibility of fixing my life, even if it's late. I have brutal childhood trauma and all I've been doing so far is make improvements on my life, which used to be hell, however, I can't get a gf. I think that it's because I'm ugly, and there's no room for self improvement in that regard.

When it came to finding a job, I had guidance. I found people who gave advice that made sense to me, so I followed it, and got jobs. I also found guidance from society on overcoming childhood trauma and getting self esteem. Same for taking care of myself, eating properly etc (I didn't learn this growing up). Every time this happened, before doing what they said, I had found a logical reason to take advice from each group of people.

If I could find a group of people to give me guidance to get a relationship with a woman, I would do everything they say and ask them for help. But the closest thing is the red pill. On redpill forums, everyone claims to be a chad and fuck all the girls, which doesn't make mathematical sense, and in comments and questions, you can also get the idea that everyone in those forums is desperate. So my first impression is that they're a joke. If you check individual post histories, you can also see contradictions such as "I'm an 8 with great genetics and face" and then "this girl is into me, she smiled at me, but rejected me and is resisting so far because she's shy". Their advice is contrary to what I know about women's psychology, for example "texting is only for logistics" (even though the more you talk, the more you bond emotionally), and cold approaching (which is objectively worse than meeting through some hobby, and women don't like it which you can see from their reactions), and to me, it sounds like their advice, despite being intended to cater to women, revolves around whatever sounds alpha and feels right to them. Therefore, it is my opinion that the redpill is a joke.

Another alternative is the "just be yourself", "don't be misogynistic" etc people. Those are an obvious fucking joke, I won't even get into that.

I wish society had a real answer to being an incel and had actually logical advice to offer. I'm not stupid, I don't just want to be lonely and complain like redditors claim, if someone could give me advice on how to improve my situation, and the advice made logical sense to me, I would 100% follow it. However, it seems that I'm hopeless by virtue of what I look like. The blackpill is the only take on dating that I've seen which is actually based on evidence.

So, back to LDARing. Because I tried to geomaxx and the south asian foid I was talking to was a pajeet scammer :feelskek: can't make this up.

tl;dr: it's ovER , don't bother trying
 
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Well, betabuxx will be your only advice
 
Well, betabuxx will be your only advice
Not even that :feelskek: women have their own jobs and get even more picky with age :feelskek:

That's something about TRP that I forgot to mention. They are stuck with boomer advice and preconceptions. Which further proves that they're not paying attention to reality. Because they would notice that women don't get desperate for "good men" when they're 30 and don't hit the wall.

If someone follows 50 year old preconceptions which are opposite to what's happening now, it proves that they are not paying attention to reality, and just believe in whatever feels right to them.
 
What dating advice do you want to receive when the main causes of your inceldom are things you can't change?
 
What dating advice do you want to receive when the main causes of your inceldom are things you can't change?

Something that actually works and would get an ugly guy dates. According to society, we can. And I wish they had actual advice that works as to how to do that.
 
Not even that :feelskek: women have their own jobs and get even more picky with age :feelskek:

That's something about TRP that I forgot to mention. They are stuck with boomer advice and preconceptions. Which further proves that they're not paying attention to reality. Because they would notice that women don't get desperate for "good men" when they're 30 and don't hit the wall.

If someone follows 50 year old preconceptions which are opposite to what's happening now, it proves that they are not paying attention to reality, and just believe in whatever feels right to them.
Then you should become even richet. That will be your another advice. But yeah, they had it easier, so they couldn't imagine the struggle
 
I am a 32 year old khv, and thinking very seriously about the possibility of fixing my life, even if it's late. I have brutal childhood trauma and all I've been doing so far is make improvements on my life, which used to be hell, however, I can't get a gf. I think that it's because I'm ugly, and there's no room for self improvement in that regard.

When it came to finding a job, I had guidance. I found people who gave advice that made sense to me, so I followed it, and got jobs. I also found guidance from society on overcoming childhood trauma and getting self esteem. Same for taking care of myself, eating properly etc (I didn't learn this growing up). Every time this happened, before doing what they said, I had found a logical reason to take advice from each group of people.

If I could find a group of people to give me guidance to get a relationship with a woman, I would do everything they say and ask them for help. But the closest thing is the red pill. On redpill forums, everyone claims to be a chad and fuck all the girls, which doesn't make mathematical sense, and in comments and questions, you can also get the idea that everyone in those forums is desperate. So my first impression is that they're a joke. If you check individual post histories, you can also see contradictions such as "I'm an 8 with great genetics and face" and then "this girl is into me, she smiled at me, but rejected me and is resisting so far because she's shy". Their advice is contrary to what I know about women's psychology, for example "texting is only for logistics" (even though the more you talk, the more you bond emotionally), and cold approaching (which is objectively worse than meeting through some hobby, and women don't like it which you can see from their reactions), and to me, it sounds like their advice, despite being intended to cater to women, revolves around whatever sounds alpha and feels right to them. Therefore, it is my opinion that the redpill is a joke.

Another alternative is the "just be yourself", "don't be misogynistic" etc people. Those are an obvious fucking joke, I won't even get into that.

I wish society had a real answer to being an incel and had actually logical advice to offer. I'm not stupid, I don't just want to be lonely and complain like redditors claim, if someone could give me advice on how to improve my situation, and the advice made logical sense to me, I would 100% follow it. However, it seems that I'm hopeless by virtue of what I look like. The blackpill is the only take on dating that I've seen which is actually based on evidence.

So, back to LDARing. Because I tried to geomaxx and the south asian foid I was talking to was a pajeet scammer :feelskek: can't make this up.

tl;dr: it's ovER , don't bother trying
Looks are everything- personality is cope.
 
Then you should become even richet. That will be your another advice. But yeah, they had it easier, so they couldn't imagine the struggle

well idk. the thing about gold diggers is, they really, really don't like their husbands. just pay attention, whenever they talk about their husbands it's always "he paid for this, he got me that", they never talk about the guy because they don't care about him. at least the ones i noticed.

if i believed moneymaxxing can lead to a good relationship, i would be trying so hard. but i dont think it can.
 
well idk. the thing about gold diggers is, they really, really don't like their husbands. just pay attention, whenever they talk about their husbands it's always "he paid for this, he got me that", they never talk about the guy because they don't care about him. at least the ones i noticed.

if i believed moneymaxxing can lead to a good relationship, i would be trying so hard. but i dont think it can.
Well, even normies can't have such luxury as a good relationship
 
I'm not sure if these suggestions are useful. My suggestions all come from my friends, who are normie or chang, I'm not sure, so they might not be useful for incel (at least I failed, but if you are better than me, they might be useful).

Look for common topics when chatting. (If she likes movies, invite her to the cinema.)

Praise her details more than her body (for example, it's better to praise her necklace and the style of her clothes as matching rather than her good figure).

Take the initiative to share your daily life instead of asking about it. (Tell her what she had for breakfast, but don't ask her about it.)

Occasionally give her some small gifts to show that you care about her (for example, "When I was shopping, I saw someone selling strawberries. Thinking that you like strawberries, I bought some for you"), but don't give something too expensive

If your appearance is not good-looking, at least keep yourself clean, take a bath, wash clothes and comb your hair.
 
I'm not sure if these suggestions are useful. My suggestions all come from my friends, who are normie or chang, I'm not sure, so they might not be useful for incel (at least I failed, but if you are better than me, they might be useful).

Look for common topics when chatting. (If she likes movies, invite her to the cinema.)

Praise her details more than her body (for example, it's better to praise her necklace and the style of her clothes as matching rather than her good figure).

Take the initiative to share your daily life instead of asking about it. (Tell her what she had for breakfast, but don't ask her about it.)

Occasionally give her some small gifts to show that you care about her (for example, "When I was shopping, I saw someone selling strawberries. Thinking that you like strawberries, I bought some for you"), but don't give something too expensive

If your appearance is not good-looking, at least keep yourself clean, take a bath, wash clothes and comb your hair.

This is unironically high IQ. Some people will say bluepill etc. You may get a warning from mods btw. But I like it.

The problem is, in order to do those things, and for those things to make a difference, you need either a date, which my problem is I can't get dates, or for the girl to me somewhat interested in the first place. No one is going to date me because I compliment her dress or talk to her about something she's interested in. :cryfeels:

It is still good advice in the sense that it's better to do it than to not do it, and will help if we get a chance. But can't get us dates. I think that's why it's not working for you.
 
its because the rest of society does not get hard rejected every time for their looks. we dont even get the chance to introduce ourselves or show our personality because we always fail the first test and that is if we are attractive. society on the otherhand sometimes gets rejeceted for their looks but also for other things such as personality, interests or whatever. their advice is valid but it wont work if you are sub5
 
This is unironically high IQ. Some people will say bluepill etc. You may get a warning from mods btw. But I like it.

The problem is, in order to do those things, and for those things to make a difference, you need either a date, which my problem is I can't get dates, or for the girl to me somewhat interested in the first place. No one is going to date me because I compliment her dress or talk to her about something she's interested in. :cryfeels:
Before replying to OP, I need to tell the mod that I have completely failed. These suggestions are of no help to me because I am a 5 '3' ricecel, and they all come from my chang friends, please don't ban me. There are hardly any gathering places for incel discussions in my country:feelsrope:

Then, if you want to get to know a foid, common interests are actually better than cold approaching. My friend's gf is usually met when they do common things, such as getting to know him in games or when he plays billiards
 
Before replying to OP, I need to tell the mod that I have completely failed. These suggestions are of no help to me because I am a 5 '3' ricecel, and they all come from my chang friends, please don't ban me. There are hardly any gathering places for incel discussions in my country:feelsrope:

Then, if you want to get to know a foid, common interests are actually better than cold approaching. My friend's gf is usually met when they do common things, such as getting to know him in games or when he plays billiards
High IQ I completely agree that cold approaching is absolutely retarded. It's redpill.

Based on women's psychology, common interests and through friends are literally the way to meet a gf that gives ugly guys the best chance. But that doesn't mean it can work for us, just that it's better than the alternative.

Btw don't worry you won't get banned. I was given a 10% warning for a similar comment in the past, it's nothing and expires in a month.
 

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