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SuicideFuel Prostitution is much more expensive today than it was in the past

The price of pussy has not just increased metaphorically since the advent of feminism, but also literally.

In Victorian England, the average monthly income of a common laborer was about 180d. The average price of a low-tier prostitute during the same time period was about 4d. This means that an unskilled laborer would only have spent about 25% of his monthly income if he had sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes in one month. Prostitution was fairly affordable for low-status males.

Compare that to modern England where the minimum wage is 1,453.3 € / month and the average price of a low-tier prostitute (who wouldn't allow you to do everything you want with her) is about 70€. In today's England, an unskilled laborer would have to spend more than 50% of his monthly income if he wants to have sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes per month.

Before the 1960s, sex workers did not really have much control over what their clients did to them. Prostitutes needed pimps to protect them from abusive clients because no one else would take them seriously if they complained. Today's prostitutes, on the other hand, tightly regulate what sex acts clients are allowed to perform on them. For example, many prostitutes refuse to have oral sex without a condom or charge a much higher amount of money for condomless sex. Even though prostitution is illegal in many Western countries, prostitutes who complain about rape or abusive clients are allowed to file police reports because there no longer is a stigma on female promiscuity.

Modern prostitutes extract large amounts of money from desperate, low-status men in exchange for often poor service. Like all other women, they take full advantage of the gynocentric system. Because they're in such high demand, they can afford not to treat their clients fairly or to provide poor service.
 
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grondilu said:
I think it's expensive because females who for some reason can't get a real job have other plenty of other options nowadays : welfare, porn, webcams, social medias, onlyfans...
yes, FUCK SIMPS
 
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Incellectual said:
Fuck I hate how women are so over valued now its sickening.
 
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Cucks are beyond retardation.
 
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Uk minimum wage is much lower than that
 
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Yeah the prices are ridiculous. I lost my virginity to an escort and paid an obscene amount. I didn't want to pay so much but I didn't want to settle for an ugly, out of shape, or postwall escort. I wanted a good experience. The experience was still blah. She was young and hot but her performance was lackluster and she didn't show much enthusiasm. I didn't want to feel like a loser paying for sex. I wanted to feel passion and like she was really enjoying her time. That's far from what I got. The government should legalize prostitution and ban whores from charging over $50 an hour. There are no unskilled professions out there that make more than $50 an hour so why do whores deserve to make that much? Some of these whores make more than doctors. What a joke.
 
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Whores be whoring whores should die xD
 
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grondilu said:
I think it's expensive because females who for some reason can't get a real job have plenty of other options nowadays : welfare, porn, webcams, social medias, onlyfans...
 
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FUCKITALLREEE said:
If you have the willpower and lowinhibit enough to go see a prostitute, you're a failed normie.
So now the cause of inceldom is lack of willpower and inhibition? I thought the main one was ugliness.

That sounds like PUA to me.
 
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Mainländer said:
So now the cause of inceldom is lack of willpower and inhibition? I thought the main one was ugliness.

That sounds like PUA to me.
i don't think it's too different from.......i dunno......going through with a scary dental appointment?

so i guess if you still have good teeth at age 30 then you're a failed normie.
 
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turbocuckcel_7000 said:
i don't think it's too different from.......i dunno......going through with a scary dental appointment?
What the hell what a weird comparison.

You can say what you want about fucking a prostitute, but can we at least agree on it not being painful ?

Jeez the point is to get pleasure, not pain.
 
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Mainländer said:
So now the cause of inceldom is lack of willpower and inhibition? I thought the main one was ugliness.

That sounds like PUA to me.
If you have to go meet a prostitute and is cucked enough to pay to put your dick in a balloon to fuck a used fleshlight dripping with other man's cum, you are still bluepilled cuck and a failed normie that isn't blackpilled to the core.
 
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FUCKITALLREEE said:
If you have to go meet a prostitute and is cucked enough to pay to put your dick in a balloon to fuck a used fleshlight dripping with other man's cum, you are still bluepilled cuck and a failed normie that isn't blackpilled to the core.
You can argue that prostitution is cucked, ok. But that seeing prostitutes makes someone not an incel? Hardly.
 
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Alone75 said:
The closest escorts I've seen are 20 miles away in the next town who charge at least £70 for a 15 minute fumble and they're 30+ ugly landwhales.

I'm not sure I'd get it up for them and I'd rather wank tbh.
It's amazing how ugly prostitutes actually are, you'd think they'd have caught up with the times, but nope. There's no real supply of hot prostitutes because they can just get resources off multiple orbiters instead.
 
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Honestly, even as a hookercel, I am happy to see what KungFlu is doing to the whores. The entire field was getting severely overvalued. Hopefully a lot of them die in ditches before the virus panic subsides, and those that remain are forced to drop prices to entice clients.
 
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Mainländer said:
You can argue that prostitution is cucked, ok. But that seeing prostitutes makes someone not an incel? Hardly.
True, i don't know where i was going with my shit, maybe i meant truecels, i need more sleep. :feelsbadman:
 
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grondilu said:
What the hell what a weird comparison.

You can say what you want about fucking a prostitute, but can we at least agree on it not being painful ?

Jeez the point is to get pleasure, not pain.
we're talking about the inhib part
 
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FUCKITALLREEE said:
True, i don't know where i was going with my shit, maybe i meant truecels, i need more sleep.
I like your humbleness and sincerity and I think we ultimately agree. Prostitution is immoral and cucked but escortcels are still incels.
 
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Mainländer said:
I like your humbleness and sincerity and I think we ultimately agree. Prostitution is immoral and cucked but escortcels are still incels.
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And they wonder why men rope/ go ER/ become rapists JFL
 
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grondilu said:
I think it's expensive because females who for some reason can't get a real job have plenty of other options nowadays : welfare, porn, webcams, social medias, onlyfans...
 
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Incellectual said:
Fuck I hate how women are so over valued now its sickening.
What goes up must come down eventually :feelsthink:
 
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And it's all because of you cucks paying those prostitutes.
 
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It depends on where you live, and what your options are. I live in Russia, and use a top shelf 19 year old girl from Belarus as a cum rag once or twice per month and it only costs about 75$.
A good bj from a 5/10 girl is about 20$.
 
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aaand life is still hell. What else is new?
 
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HopeCopeRope said:
What goes up must come down eventually :feelsthink:
The question is how fast. Society tends to move at "gentle lovemaking speed" when it comes to these cycles rather than vigorous "pump and dump speed", no matter how much accelerationists and anti-natalists claim otherwise.
 
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VirginAutistManlet said:
Sex workers are vile and are demonic, the devil has claimed their souls, do not let the devil claim yours.
At this rate most of the world is the same. I'm not a Bible pusher but the state of culture worshipping sex and vile things seems off-putting
 
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turbocuckcel_7000 said:
scary dental appointment
JFL just be five years old......
 
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stravinsky said:
JFL just be five years old......
you see people with busted teeth everywhere. they have money but they put off painful dental visits anyway. it's a common thing, tough guy.
 
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turbocuckcel_7000 said:
you see people with busted teeth everywhere.
I really don't, not that I'm in public often.

turbocuckcel_7000 said:
they have money but they put off painful dental visits anyway. it's a common thing, tough guy.
Okay, cucks are also a common thing. Point being what? There are few spots on the body as easy to numb as the mouth, if all you need is some root work or pulling out defective teeth I can't feel sympathy for you tbh. I have had a nightmare with my teeth during my youth due to narrow palate, impacted teeth (non-wisdom JFL) and extreme overbite. Try taking a bone marrow biopsy, that shit SUCKS. Keep coping with how scary it is.

Not even trying to shit on you really, just pointing it out. Tooth repairs are really easy generally unless you get jaw bone infections or shit like that.
 
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stravinsky said:
I really don't, not that I'm in public often.


Okay, cucks are also a common thing. Point being what? There are few spots on the body as easy to numb as the mouth, if all you need is some root work or pulling out defective teeth I can't feel sympathy for you tbh. I have had a nightmare with my teeth during my youth due to narrow palate, impacted teeth (non-wisdom JFL) and extreme overbite. Try taking a bone marrow biopsy, that shit SUCKS. Keep coping with how scary it is.
Numbing doesn't work the same for all people, I can't believe this needs explaining. I don't need any work done because it's all been solved before I even signed up here, and it matched the experiences of many people I talked to where the numbing was pretty hit and miss and the whole thing was an ordeal. You keep coping that you're some kind of superhero because your mouth goes numb easily.
 
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turbocuckcel_7000 said:
Numbing doesn't work the same for all people, I can't believe this needs explaining. I don't need any work done because it's all been solved before I even signed up here, and it matched the experiences of many people I talked to where the numbing was pretty hit and miss and the whole thing was an ordeal. You keep coping that you're some kind of superhero because your mouth goes numb easily.
Maybe it doesn't, and if you feel like explaining it you need to take subjectivity into account since there is no measure of pain that isn't self reported with all the issues that goes with it. Good for you that it was sorted, I hope it went good.

I'm no sadist, I don't care to try and punch downward just for the sake of it. It just seems unlikely to me that your nerve endings respond completely different to *caine than everyone elses, it's probably more to do with an incompetent dentist than anything else. If I recall correctly you're in EE, that right? Might explain some of it, ngl.

I'm so far from a superhero, JFL, but nice strawman cope right there. I couldn't even cope with the pain from my phimotic band-expansion with a shitty 3D-printed chinese tool while on so much heroin I tangentially nodded off. It's just obvious to me that nerve endings in your gums and below are much more sensitive to numbing chemicals than anywhere else, unfortunately I've had a few different experiences to compare it with.

Maybe you're a complete outlier or your dentist annihilated you, I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions but the use of the word "scary" just made me laugh out loud. Even when they've failed to properly numb me I'd still rank tooth pain below top 3. I'm not trying to act tough, who the fuck cares. If anything it's an attempt at motivation, cringe as it might be.
 
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stravinsky said:
Maybe it doesn't, and if you feel like explaining it you need to take subjectivity into account since there is no measure of pain that isn't self reported with all the issues that goes with it. Good for you that it was sorted, I hope it went good.

I'm no sadist, I don't care to try and punch downward just for the sake of it. It just seems unlikely to me that your nerve endings respond completely different to *caine than everyone elses, it's probably more to do with an incompetent dentist than anything else. If I recall correctly you're in EE, that right? Might explain some of it, ngl.

I'm so far from a superhero, JFL, but nice strawman cope right there. I couldn't even cope with the pain from my phimotic band-expansion with a shitty 3D-printed chinese tool while on so much heroin I tangentially nodded off. It's just obvious to me that nerve endings in your gums and below are much more sensitive to numbing chemicals than anywhere else, unfortunately I've had a few different experiences to compare it with.

Maybe you're a complete outlier or your dentist annihilated you, I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions but the use of the word "scary" just made me laugh out loud. Even when they've failed to properly numb me I'd still rank tooth pain below top 3. I'm not trying to act tough, who the fuck cares. If anything it's an attempt at motivation, cringe as it might be.
The EE thing is a factor, no doubt about it, but I've been to both cheap and expensive dentists and it was kind of the same thing. Loads of pain, especially when working on the upper teeth for whatever reason.
I don't think it's that uncommon, everyone in my family hates the dentist, really everyone I know, and they've been through a lot, eye injuries, giant gashes, you name it, still hate the dentist.

You've been through a lot, I hope you feel better and like you've achieved something, sounds like you avoided getting a circumcision which is great, it can easily fuck things up for a man.
 
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Personalityinkwell said:
Only worth it in a poor country tbh. Or maybe one where it's regulated and thus cheaper.
Pretty much, women in Latin american Countries look 100x better as well,
 
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Legalization would solve some of this
 
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Do we have long time-series from other countries?

How has the price changed compared to average wage/minimum wage in other countries?
 
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Hookers where I live are like $500 and u aren't even guaranteed sex
 
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DeepSea said:
The price of pussy has not just increased metaphorically since the advent of feminism, but also literally.

In Victorian England, the average monthly income of a common laborer was about 180d. The average price of a low-tier prostitute during the same time period was about 4d. This means that an unskilled laborer would only have spent about 25% of his monthly income if he had sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes in one month. Prostitution was fairly affordable for low-status males.

Compare that to modern England where the minimum wage is 1,453.3 € / month and the average price of a low-tier prostitute (who wouldn't allow you to do everything you want with her) is about 70€. In today's England, an unskilled laborer would have to spend more than 50% of his monthly income if he wants to have sex with 11 low-tier prostitutes per month.

Before the 1960s, sex workers did not really have much control over what their clients did to them. Prostitutes needed pimps to protect them from abusive clients because no one else would take them seriously if they complained. Today's prostitutes, on the other hand, tightly regulate what sex acts clients are allowed to perform on them. For example, many prostitutes refuse to have oral sex without a condom or charge a much higher amount of money for condomless sex. Even though prostitution is illegal in many Western countries, prostitutes who complain about rape or abusive clients are allowed to file police reports because there no longer is a stigma on female promiscuity.

Modern prostitutes extract large amounts of money from desperate, low-status men in exchange for often poor service. Like all other women, they take full advantage of the gynocentric system. Because they're in such high demand, they can afford not to treat their clients fairly or to provide poor service.


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Those street whores charge £20-£40=15 mins of PIV sex. So that's the same as an AW escort or brothel escort charging £50 for 20 mins. £10 = 5 min blow job so in effect that's still £100+ per hour. Other than their drug taking self indulgence & self harm how the fuck are they oppressed? So called pimps are just protection rackets that you'd pay for a private body guard or shop security guard. Etc
Braincel14w said:
It's sad that some like me can't perform sex any other way.

Same
 
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uglyautisticrice said:
Hookers where I live are like $500 and u aren't even guaranteed sex
In Europe?
 
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The problem is making it illegal, it vastly made the prices increase due to supply being cut but the demand being high still.
 
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Back in time you just needed to have a job to have a wife to empty your balls.
Now it's much more sophisticated, having a job is far from enough and many men just can't access sex for free even if they have relatively good situations.
My cousin, a long time incel soycuck, has been alone until he was 29. Yet, when he was 26, he was already a good engineer winning a lot of money. Not enough. He ended up with a low-value woman and is planning to marry her rn.
I don't even want to know her but I saw a picture and know this foid has had at least 30 sexual partners before the betabuxx. I'm sorry for him and hope not to end up like him.
End even if you access it, the foid will say "I'm not a sex person" and you'll be priviledged if she agrees to fuck more than once a week.

Better alone than with a old-slut who won't give you what she gave for free for a decade to any chad she'd see.
 
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To summarize: if you aren’t able to get a girlfriend who will do these things with you for free, you’re in for a very, very bad life.
most time to rope.
 
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uglyautisticrice said:
West coast usa

Not surprising, it's probably California where the prices get skewed by:

1. a large number of very high income earners from Hollywood and the tech industry in Silicon Valley
2. artificial scarcity caused by the government not decriminalizing prostitution
3. increased risks for the prostitute due to government criminalization (basically potential arrests and legal costs are priced in)

I have no idea why anyone still stays there unless they're either an actor, a techie, a landlord or just obscenely rich. One of the most overrated overpriced places to live in the world.
 
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Fuck escortmaxxing, it's not worth it. Back in NYC in the 80s and early 90s, you could get a beautiful escort for 30 bucks. How far we are from that now.
 
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Eschewcel said:
Back in time you just needed to have a job to have a wife to empty your balls.
Now it's much more sophisticated, having a job is far from enough and many men just can't access sex for free even if they have relatively good situations.
My cousin, a long time incel soycuck, has been alone until he was 29. Yet, when he was 26, he was already a good engineer winning a lot of money. Not enough. He ended up with a low-value woman and is planning to marry her rn.
I don't even want to know her but I saw a picture and know this foid has had at least 30 sexual partners before the betabuxx. I'm sorry for him and hope not to end up like him.
End even if you access it, the foid will say "I'm not a sex person" and you'll be priviledged if she agrees to fuck more than once a week.

Better alone than with a old-slut who won't give you what she gave for free for a decade to any chad she'd see.
high IQ, better incel than cuck or betabuxx
 
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Bro either way beta buxx or not, women are extremely expensive to get even jsut for casual sex. its getting more and more expensive. escort maxxing is a good cope if you can do it regularly, if you can only do it once a month or year it will jsut make u more depressed
 
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