Serious Prosocial behaviors

[Epedaphic]

Feeling pissed at the state of society and how I’m treated by others in everyday interactions, so I am gonna get some thoughts out here that I’ve been holding in for a while. No need to read it if you’re not interested but I appreciate it if you do and of course welcome any feedback:


Although we aren’t constantly aware of it, we’ve been brainwashed our whole lives to behave in a way that benefits others and society at large. These are prosocial behaviors. For example, saving water by turning off the faucet when we don’t need it, or saving energy by turning off the lights when we’re done with them. There are many more too.

But who does this benefit? Recently I’ve been contemplating the meaning of these actions and their place in the lives of incels. In a society where everyone is respected, and where everyone has a chance to reproduce and “pass down” society to the next generation, these behaviors make sense. Individuals are incentivized to leave the world in good shape so that those who inherit it will benefit from their actions. People who are treated with courtesy and respect are incentivized to “pay forward” to others the goodwill that was shown to them.

But what of the class of people who are shunned, who are treated as if they are invisible or even as if they are evil, based just on how they look? And who as a result are not given the opportunity to reproduce, or even the opportunity to have a chance at it? I’m taking about incels of course.

It is frankly very selfish of society to expect these things of us. We are treated as second class citizens who do not deserve basic human decency (being acknowledged, treated as humans, etc), but we are expected to make sacrifices and inconvenience ourselves for the sake of the very same society that treats us this way. And to smile and be happy about it.

I’m going to continue looking for ways that I’ve been groomed by society to keep playing into this system. I welcome everyone’s thoughts and responses to what I’ve written here. Thanks for reading.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

sorry inkwel, you keep being a slave for society and future generations. Keep taking the beatings because it’s all just a test by God bro. After death you will be rewarded (when no one can ever prove someone did get rewarded, and all you see is a rotting corpse).

 

[Mango]

You have to engage in some prosocial behaviors in a professional environment so you can't completely avoid it. Acting like a tough guy sigma male is just going to make your already bad reputation worse. But don't be too nice either, lest you want others to use you as a doormat.

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

But who does this benefit?

Sexhavers and their offspring while you ldar with the ill will of soyceity.

 

[overrrrrrrrrrr]

I think the reason is because a lot of normies are simply unaware of how badly those at the bottom of the hierarchy are treated. I have met so many normies who genuinely think they treat everybody equally and give everyone an equal chance and how they dont judge anyone on their looks etc. Most people in my experience self extrapolate pretty hard and assume that because they are treated decently everyone is and because of that they cannot fathom how bad it actually is for some people. the normie life usually will go decently well so they have no incentive to actually reflect and think about what it might be like for people like us. They dont understand our experience because they haven't experienced it themselves and because they lack the desire and/or brain to understand it so they just write us off as assholes when we dont inconvenience ourselves for them. They assume we had the same nice experiences as them and therefore expect us to make sacrifices and inconvenience ourselves for the sake of the very same society that treats us like shit.

 

[Epedaphic]

The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.

Very relevant. Now if only this quote had something about the villagers never seeing it coming and then blaming the child.

sorry inkwel, you keep being a slave for society and future generations. Keep taking the beatings because it’s all just a test by God bro. After death you will be rewarded (when no one can ever prove someone did get rewarded, and all you see is a rotting corpse).

Yeah… the older I get the less accepting of this I am becoming. But it’s tough to take action because of all the brainwashing.

You have to engage in some prosocial behaviors in a professional environment so you can't completely avoid it. Acting like a tough guy sigma male is just going to make your already bad reputation worse. But don't be too nice either, lest you want others to use you as a doormat.

Very true… good point. Those behaviors are necessary on a smaller scale to be accepted and to be able to sustain ourselves. I guess I’m not thinking of acting like a tough guy sigma though, just doing things like leaving the light on or using more gas or foam products.

Sexhavers and their offspring while you ldar with the ill will of soyceity.

I’m getting sick of this. I don’t know how others aren’t as well. Or maybe it’s just not mentioned as much in a serious context? Don’t know.

View attachment 807636 I think the reason is because a lot of normies are simply unaware of how badly those at the bottom of the hierarchy are treated. I have met so many normies who genuinely think they treat everybody equally and give everyone an equal chance and how they dont judge anyone on their looks etc. Most people in my experience self extrapolate pretty hard and assume that because they are treated decently everyone is and because of that they cannot fathom how bad it actually is for some people. the normie life usually will go decently well so they have no incentive to actually reflect and think about what it might be like for people like us. They dont understand our experience because they haven't experienced it themselves and because they lack the desire and/or brain to understand it so they just write us off as assholes when we dont inconvenience ourselves for them. They assume we had the same nice experiences as them and therefore expect us to make sacrifices and inconvenience ourselves for the sake of the very same society that treats us like shit.

High iq post. Agree. The comic is great btw. And yeah, I’ve experienced this so many times where people go their whole lives without truly putting themselves into other peoples shoes. People who I thought were intelligent.

 

[Mango]

Very true… good point. Those behaviors are necessary on a smaller scale to be accepted and to be able to sustain ourselves. I guess I’m not thinking of acting like a tough guy sigma though, just doing things like leaving the light on or using more gas or foam products.

If you put it that way, I don't see how wasting resources like your water and electricity would get back at society. It would just raise your utility bills. Maybe in a crisis, it could. Like planting an extravagant garden in a desert city during a drought and using up the water to keep the plants alive. Or hoarding gasoline for yourself during a gas shortage and using it to fuel your gas guzzling muscle car.

 

[NorthernWind]

Being prosocial matters in society which encourages prosocial behavior and shuns extreme individualism and egoistic behavior.
This influences even popular culture. Popular Soviet rock band Kruiz had a song from their 1981 album named - 'One is handsome, the other is smart'.
Now in popular culture you can see only negros, drugs, sport cars, whores, twerking, assess... Egoistical animalistic behavior is encouraged. Now, I sound like hypocrite because I'm also egoistic but I mean that culture's level of society shouldn't promote animalistic and status-seeking behavior because it leads to criminality and oppression and bullying of weaker members.
If civilization and culture doesn't restrict natural animalistic human behavior, that's the point of such civilization?

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Since you can't harm society in any meaningful way, I don't think it makes much of a difference. I tried not doing small things like sorting the trash etc., but I felt worse and nobody cared. so I just keep doing those things because it's in my nature to want to behave this way.
if it makes you feel good to actively do damage where you can, sure, go for it, but don't force yourself if it's not doing it for you.

 

[Epedaphic]

If you put it that way, I don't see how wasting resources like your water and electricity would get back at society. It would just raise your utility bills. Maybe in a crisis, it could. Like planting an extravagant garden in a desert city during a drought and using up the water to keep the plants alive. Or hoarding gasoline for yourself during a gas shortage and using it to fuel your gas guzzling muscle car.

Good point. At least if I can afford it and it makes life even a little more convenient for me, it may be worth it. Also water is free in some places.

 

[Epedaphic]

Since you can't harm society in any meaningful way, I don't think it makes much of a difference. I tried not doing small things like sorting the trash etc., but I felt worse and nobody cared. so I just keep doing those things because it's in my nature to want to behave this way.
if it makes you feel good to actively do damage where you can, sure, go for it, but don't force yourself if it's not doing it for you.

I think it’s not for me. The sense of guilt is too much, the brainwashing was too strong. I at least have started using more plastic when it would increase convenience for me.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

I think it’s not for me. The sense of guilt is too much, the brainwashing was too strong. I at least have started using more plastic when it would increase convenience for me.

brainwashing is everywhere and many people just throw their trash out of their driving car anyways. I would bet what is causing you to feel this way is mostly your genetic predisposition. which is relevant, because you might be able to overcome brainwashing, but fighting how your genetic code expresses itself through you is like trying to move a mountain by pushing really hard against it.