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Serious Porn's connection to the blackpill(?)

Has porn led to inceldom?

  • Yes, it has created false expectations

  • No, I'd still be an incel even if porn didn't exist

  • Awoooooooooo!


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sneed (not chuck)

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Has porn led to our inceldom by raising expectations of women?

When the influences of media on society are brought up, there is often a pushback. The argument is typically as such: ‘I know how to separate fantasy from reality, thus it is ridiculous to claim that media makes people do things’. On the surface, the argument is true. In most cases, adults can distinguish fiction from real life and it is also true that one cannot hold media accountable for the actions that they commit. However, within this there is an often overlooked fact that media doesn’t outright control so much as it surreptitiously influences and, furthermore, individuals who believe that they are immune to this are often most at risk. It is often claimed that video games, movies etc don’t contribute to violence. However, when one does even the most cursory research, we find that the complete opposite is true. There is in fact an almost unanimous agreement among experts that what we consume affects our beliefs and actions. If this were not the case, a multi-billion dollar advertising industry would not exist and propaganda would not be the dangerous weapon it is. In an article by Craig Anderson et al we learn that:

“Research on violent television and films, video games, and music reveals unequivocal evidence that media violence increases the likelihood of aggressive and violent behaviour in both immediate and long-term contexts

This isn’t limited to violence. Another study by Todd Heatherton et al found that:

Compared to adolescents with low exposure to smoking in movies, those with high exposure are about three times as likely to try smoking or become smokers.

Yet many laymen still believe that media doesn’t influence people. To explain this phenomenon in the face of an unquestionable scientific consensus, Brad Bushman et al posits that

One reason is people think the media have a much stronger effect on others than on themselves—called the third person effect (Davison, 1983)

In other words, everyone thinks that they are the exception. More than just media having an impact on society, there is evidence that pornography itself has permeated society. According to Maree Crabbe, among “13–16 year olds in Australian schools, 93 per cent of males and 62 per cent of females had seen pornography online”. For many of these young children, porn will serve as one of the only sources of sex-ed, which is a frightening thought. Maree writes, “porn has become a central mediator of young people’s sexual understandings and experiences. Young people are exposed to porn at unprecedented rates. Many young people discover porn before they’ve encountered sex. They are seeing it more frequently, through more media, and what they are seeing is harder and more aggressive. Young people are living in an era of new sexual expectations, acceptance and practices […] There is evidence that many young people are enacting porn scripts.”

Would society be better off if all porn was eradicated? Or do you want it as a cope?
Anderson, Craig A., et al. “The influence of media violence on youth.” Psychological science in the public interest 4.3 (2003): 81-110. https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/83429/2003.Anderson_etal.InfluenceofMediaViolenceonYouth.PsychologicalScienceinthePublicInterest.pdf?sequence=1

Heatherton, Todd F., and James D. Sargent. “Does watching smoking in movies promote teenage smoking?” Current Directions in Psychological Science 18.2 (2009): 63-67. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2770193/
 
Has porn led to our inceldom by raising expectations of women?

When the influences of media on society are brought up, there is often a pushback. The argument is typically as such: ‘I know how to separate fantasy from reality, thus it is ridiculous to claim that media makes people do things’. On the surface, the argument is true. In most cases, adults can distinguish fiction from real life and it is also true that one cannot hold media accountable for the actions that they commit. However, within this there is an often overlooked fact that media doesn’t outright control so much as it surreptitiously influences and, furthermore, individuals who believe that they are immune to this are often most at risk. It is often claimed that video games, movies etc don’t contribute to violence. However, when one does even the most cursory research, we find that the complete opposite is true. There is in fact an almost unanimous agreement among experts that what we consume affects our beliefs and actions. If this were not the case, a multi-billion dollar advertising industry would not exist and propaganda would not be the dangerous weapon it is. In an article by Craig Anderson et al we learn that:

“Research on violent television and films, video games, and music reveals unequivocal evidence that media violence increases the likelihood of aggressive and violent behaviour in both immediate and long-term contexts

This isn’t limited to violence. Another study by Todd Heatherton et al found that:

Compared to adolescents with low exposure to smoking in movies, those with high exposure are about three times as likely to try smoking or become smokers.

Yet many laymen still believe that media doesn’t influence people. To explain this phenomenon in the face of an unquestionable scientific consensus, Brad Bushman et al posits that

One reason is people think the media have a much stronger effect on others than on themselves—called the third person effect (Davison, 1983)

In other words, everyone thinks that they are the exception. More than just media having an impact on society, there is evidence that pornography itself has permeated society. According to Maree Crabbe, among “13–16 year olds in Australian schools, 93 per cent of males and 62 per cent of females had seen pornography online”. For many of these young children, porn will serve as one of the only sources of sex-ed, which is a frightening thought. Maree writes, “porn has become a central mediator of young people’s sexual understandings and experiences. Young people are exposed to porn at unprecedented rates. Many young people discover porn before they’ve encountered sex. They are seeing it more frequently, through more media, and what they are seeing is harder and more aggressive. Young people are living in an era of new sexual expectations, acceptance and practices […] There is evidence that many young people are enacting porn scripts.”

Would society be better off if all porn was eradicated? Or do you want it as a cope?
Anderson, Craig A., et al. “The influence of media violence on youth.” Psychological science in the public interest 4.3 (2003): 81-110. https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/83429/2003.Anderson_etal.InfluenceofMediaViolenceonYouth.PsychologicalScienceinthePublicInterest.pdf?sequence=1

Heatherton, Todd F., and James D. Sargent. “Does watching smoking in movies promote teenage smoking?” Current Directions in Psychological Science 18.2 (2009): 63-67. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2770193/
IT NEVER BEGAN EVEN WHEN I DIDN’T KNOW PORN EXISTED I FAPPED AT 13 AND GOT NO ATTENTION FROM FOIDS AND CLASSMATES WHATSOEVER
 
Saying porn leads to inceldom is like saying violence causing school shootings, it's just a cultural thing that already draws those people in. Violent people would still do violent shit without watching bad movies or videogames, incels would still be rejected and would have the same expectations from women without porn, the only way porn might have increased inceldom is by making hypergamy more socially acceptable for women,
 
Porn is my only way to see a woman naked. It's a horrible brain rotting cope but it works. The human willy wasn't meant to be in a hand it was meant to be inside the opposite sex. Fred Flintstone didn't get off on seeing other people have sex either, it should've been Fred doing the fucking instead.

For women though it's very easily to argue that it reinforces expectations like the dickpill and heightpill. Sometimes the guy is ugly as fuck but it doesn't matter bc the girl actress just wants sex with a big dingdong + he's probably tall. A lot of porn has the guy taking control who also happens to be either 6'+ Tyrone or Chad with an 8 incher pounding them into another dimension.

Whether porn existed or not it wouldn't change female hypergamy and ideas of what is physically attractive. In other words I would still be an inkie :cryfeels:
 
even before i watched porn or had any sexual urges foids were avoiding me, chatting with other guys and ignored me.
 
Porn is just escortcelling with a camera on bro

it's all super fake and edited
 
I wouldnt have watched porn if I had a social life nigga
 
I remember me and my classmates would gather at someone's home and watch porn. And guess what?
We are all incels now it's so over :kys:
 
well, i would still be a spergcel n shiet, so...
 
Its well known that kikes use (((porn))) to destroy males. Theyve been doing it forever. Anyone who defends (((porn))) is a brainwashed drone that should be hanged
 
Saying porn leads to inceldom is like saying violence causing school shootings, it's just a cultural thing that already draws those people in. Violent people would still do violent shit without watching bad movies or videogames, incels would still be rejected and would have the same expectations from women without porn, the only way porn might have increased inceldom is by making hypergamy more socially acceptable for women,
:bigbrain:

Cultural forces exacerbate inceldom, not the availability of porn.
 

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