Discussion (Poll)How long before Pedophillia, Bestiality and Incest is given the same legal status as LGBT people in western countries?

[HowCanSheSlap]

Bestiality is already legal in some countries (Finland), same with incest (Australia, France) and child pornography is allowed as well in some countries (Africa mainly lmao) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_child_pornography

These 3 types of degeneracy are the only areas where public opinion (even in the West) is at least somewhat sane. According to a poll 2 years ago, 11% of people in UK think bestiality is fine while 75% are against, and rest 'Don't know'. This isn't too unlike opinions towards gays just slightly under 50 years ago. Now Jewish media and liberal elites have engineered public opinion and raised an entire generation supportive of these degenerate causes and abominations. As the decade comes to an end, the pace of social change know no bounds and will increase - I could get away with jokes towards fags back in school in 2011, not I'd probably be excluded and put in prison for 'hate crime'.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

Never

 

[RollD20]

Cope

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

Never

Giga-cope. It's just a matter of time.

 

[Ping And Pong]

Technically incest can be between 2 consenting adults just like homosexuals. So it will probably be given a legal status within the next few years, clown world tbh.

 

[Deleted member 22907]

Lmao 5 votes and all are different answers

 

[Fat Link]

Well the Jews seem to be working hard on normalizing and then probably eventually legalizing pedophila right now as I type, so I figure next on the kosher agenda will be normalizing and then legalizing bestiality, which I voted will probably come to pass around 2036-2050 give or take.

 

[Deleted member 21514]

I don't think pedophilia will be accepted any time soon tbh. Normies think that fucking an 17 years old whore is rape lmao

 

[Deleted member 1060]

Soft core child porn is already legal in LGBT community, if you say anything against it, you will end up in jail.

Also there is basically no difference between homosexuality and incest. I'm not sure why it's not legal yet.

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

I don't think pedophilia will be accepted any time soon tbh. Normies think that fucking an 17 years old whore is rape lmao

Cope. They're starting to think it's a 'mental disorder' and they can be 'cured'. The same discussion happened with gays during the 20th century. It will be given the same liberal argument: as long as they're not harming each other and its two consenting people, everything is fine and none of your goddamn business you pedophobe!

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

non-offending pedophiles (those attracted to prepubescent kids but never chose to have that attraction but they still don’t act on it) will be accepted in 2 or 3 decades. And then they will be in the LGBT community. That I know for sure will happen. Incest probably will be legalized nationwide in the future (along with incest marriage) as long as they don’t reproduce. Same-sex incest won’t reproduce and heterosexual incest won’t if the brother has a vasectomy. I bet incest couples will be allowed to adopt kids because those kids aren’t biologically theirs. I don’t know about bestiality though. I think the moral panic over pedophiles will be gone in 2 or 3 decades

 

[Deleted member 21514]

Cope. They're starting to think it's a 'mental disorder' and they can be 'cured'. The same discussion happened with gays during the 20th century. It will be given the same liberal argument: as long as they're not harming each other and its two consenting people, everything is fine and none of your goddamn business you pedophobe!

Lmao at thinking they can be cured, the only "cure" is to be sexually repressed like us but at least we can jerk off without going to jail.
Anyway i think there's still a lot of stigma around pedophilia tbh but i won't care if it's accepted i don't give a shit about society anymore. Lifefuel for Napoleon and some other users tho

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

I don’t know about bestiality though. I think the moral panic over pedophiles will be gone in 2 or 3 decades

Peter Singer one of the most renowned political philosophers argues that bestiality is one of the last remaining 'anomolies' in the western world yet to be legalized.



This is the problem with secular ethics.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Peter Singer one of the most renowned political philosophers argues that bestiality is one of the last remaining 'anomolies' in the western world yet to be legalized.

If bestiality is legalized that will happen in a century

 

[Deleted member 5712]

Not soon enough for it to matter for any of us.
Back even in the 80s you had tons of stars fucking preteens and nobody cares. Once Reagan hit the conservative wind hit big in America and everything shifted.
CP was legal up until the 2000s in Japan before they started to suck America's western dick. Now you don't even see any cute young idols anymore because everybody is afraid to say that a 12yo can be cute.

If any of us could go back to the 60-70s era we'd be drowning in sweet JB pussy. There was studios in full swing selling cp. Brooke Shields was on Playboy. It was a good decade for loli lovers everywhere.

 

[Deleted member 101]

Pedophilia and bestiality will never become legal because of the issue of consent, and most people want to protect children and (some) animals. You have to be an utter fool to compare homosexuality, which often involves at least two consenting adults, and legalizing pedophilia are in the same league.
This is by far the most retarded anti-LGBT opinion ever.

 

[nazianime]

Its legal for chad already. If a woman has a daughter and the chad only wants to get at her daughter she will compromise and say you have to take both. Either through rotation or both at the same time or a combination of both. If you are ugly people will stone you regardless of the law.

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

Pedophilia and bestiality will never become legal because of the issue of consent, and most people want to protect children and (some) animals. You have to be an utter fool to compare homosexuality, which often involves at least two consenting adults, and legalizing pedophilia are in the same league.
This is by far the most retarded anti-LGBT opinion ever.

Giga-Ignorance. You're just not aware of the current debates in academia and science. Obviously most people are against these people in real life. But these ideas are being discussed 100% SERIOUSLY!

Many thinkers around the world, Peter Singer on bestiality (see above) and recently a PhD student called Mirjam Heine on a TEDx talk said pedophillia is a 'sexual orientation'. Look at all the child porn in anime for fucks sake!

'Two consenting adult' is a complete red herring in this debate. The philosophy of liberalism is enshrined in Mill's harm principle which is a corollary to consent; If no one is being harmed then it's none of your business! Taken absolutely, you can justify any kind of degenerate shit with this principle.

 

[Deleted member 101]

Giga-Ignorance. You're just not aware of the current debates in academia and science. Obviously most people are against these people in real life. But these ideas are being discussed 100% SERIOUSLY!

Many thinkers around the world, Peter Singer on bestiality (see above) and recently a PhD student called Mirjam Heine on a TEDx talk said pedophillia is a 'sexual orientation'. Look at all the child porn in anime for fucks sake!

'Two consenting adult' is a complete red herring in this debate. The philosophy of liberalism is enshrined in Mill's harm principle which is a corollary to consent; If no one is being harmed then it's none of your business! Taken absolutely, you can justify any kind of degenerate shit with this principle.

First of all, those are drawings. Lolicon is not nearly on the same level as actual CP. Unless there were children who were used as nude models for these drawings, then these are nothing than just drawings.
And I think it’s shitty to consider non-straight people as degenerate on the same level as people who rape and abuse children and animals.
Also lol a PhD student giving a TedxTalk, fucking anyone can give a TedxTalk and being a PhD student doesn’t mean you aren’t retarded. Is this person an accomplished researcher? No, she is a student. TedxTalks are babby level compares to TED Talks.
Also, what the fuck does any of this have to do with Incels?
Children are possibly the most protected class on earth. There is no way in hell pedophilia or sex with children ever becomes legal. And the fact that you think that gay people are as horrid as child abusers is hilarious.
Tbh based on your avi you’re probably some Muzzie who wants to shove Sharia law down my throat.

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

First of all, those are drawings. Lolicon is not nearly on the same level as actual CP. Unless there were children who were used as nude models for these drawings, then these are nothing than just drawings.
And I think it’s shitty to consider non-straight people as degenerate on the same level as people who rape and abuse children and animals.
Also lol a PhD student giving a TedxTalk, fucking anyone can give a TedxTalk and being a PhD student doesn’t mean you aren’t retarded. Is this person an accomplished researcher? No, she is a student. TedxTalks are babby level compares to TED Talks.
Also, what the fuck does any of this have to do with Incels?

You misunderstand me again. My point was the same logic used to justify LGBT lifestyles can be applied to those who want to commit paedophilia, bestiality and incest. I don't care about which one is more degenerate or not, that's irrelevant.

And JFL at saying 'those are drawings' - like as if it has nothing to do with paedophilia.

 

[A_Broken_Person]

Well the Jews seem to be working hard on normalizing and then probably eventually legalizing pedophila right now as I type, so I figure next on the kosher agenda will be normalizing and then legalizing bestiality, which I voted will probably come to pass around 2036-2050 give or take.

Disgusting.

Where is that even from? Some pedowood production I'm guessing

 

[Deleted member 22237]

I don't think pedophilia will be accepted any time soon tbh. Normies think that fucking an 17 years old whore is rape lmao

Yea this Is true too but remember that they re cattle and social norms are directed by those in power

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

Children are possibly the most protected class on earth. There is no way in hell pedophilia or sex with children ever becomes legal. And the fact that you think that gay people are as horrid as child abusers is hilarious.
Tbh based on your avi you’re probably some Muzzie who wants to shove Sharia law down my throat.

Here you go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:pedophile_activism

Pederasty - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Deleted member 101]

Here you go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:pedophile_activism

Nobody actually takes NAMBLA seriously. Everybody despises NAMBLA and similar groups.

You misunderstand me again. My point was the same logic used to justify LGBT lifestyles can be applied to those who want to commit paedophilia, bestiality and incest. I don't care about which one is more degenerate or not, that's irrelevant.

And JFL at saying 'those are drawings' - like as if it has nothing to do with paedophilia.

You can’t use the same logic to justify LGBT lifestyles to justify child abuse and animal abuse because pedophilia and bestiality ARE ABOUT RAPE AND ABUSE AT THEIR CORE. ANYONE WHO THINGS LGBT PEOPLE ARE ON THE SAME LEAGUE OF EVIL AS CHILD RAPISTS AND DOGFUCKERS IS BRAINDEAD.
And I don’t care about drawings if no one is harmed in their making. I could draw people getting maimed and shot. But you can’t deny free speech when no one is being harmed as a result of that speech.

 

[Fat Link]

Disgusting.

Where is that even from? Some pedowood production I'm guessing

"The Woodsman" starring Kevin Bacon.

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

Nobody actually takes NAMBLA seriously. Everybody despises NAMBLA and similar groups.

You can’t use the same logic to justify LGBT lifestyles to justify child abuse and animal abuse because pedophilia and bestiality ARE ABOUT RAPE AND ABUSE AT THEIR CORE. ANYONE WHO THINGS LGBT PEOPLE ARE ON THE SAME LEAGUE OF EVIL AS CHILD RAPISTS AND DOGFUCKERS IS BRAINDEAD.
And I don’t care about drawings if no one is harmed in their making. I could draw people getting maimed and shot. But you can’t deny free speech when no one is being harmed as a result of that speech.

'If no one is harmed in their making' is the exact same logic used by those who defend peados and degenerates who fuck dogs.

You can go in circles all you want. Your claim that pedophillia or beastiality will never be legalized is based on your 'gut reaction'. Even saying peados and animal fuckers are rapists and abusers isn't an argument against them. It's just a matter of time before you're called out for being discriminatory.

Oh and comparing anime child sexualization with anime violence. JFL. Why is fictionalized violence allowed then and not fictionalized child sexualization using real actors? Again, no one is harmed. You're on a slippery slope here.

 

[Deleted member 101]

Technically incest can be between 2 consenting adults just like homosexuals. So it will probably be given a legal status within the next few years, clown world tbh.

Nah too many risks with incest plus a lot of incest involves rape
IIRC you can have sex with a cousin several, several times removed without risk of producing a child with birth defects or mental challenges. Like the farther removed the safer.

'If no one is harmed in their making' is the exact same logic used by those who defend peados and degenerates who fuck dogs.

You can go in circles all you want. Your claim that pedophillia or beastiality will never be legalized is based on your 'gut reaction'. Even saying peados and animal fuckers are rapists and abusers isn't an argument against them. It's just a matter of time before you're called out for being discriminatory.

Oh and comparing anime child sexualization with anime violence. JFL. Why is fictionalized violence allowed then and not fictionalized child sexualization using real actors? Again, no one is harmed. You're on a slippery slope here.

Because they aren’t real my nigga you can’t actually do harm to a fictional character otherwise we should start charging every murderer in every movie or book with murder
It’s only a matter of time? I’m willing to take that bet that it will never happen.

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

Because they aren’t real my nigga you can’t actually do harm to a fictional character otherwise we should start charging every murderer in every movie or book with murder
It’s only a matter of time? I’m willing to take that bet that it will never happen.

LMAO! You sound EXACTLY like those 'muh free speech' and 'muh doing no harm' people who justified all the degenerate 'social progress' we see now. It's people like you who will be the first to defend pedos and animal abusers when they become legalized. This is the result of your pig utilitarian "freedom".

 

[Deleted member 101]

LMAO! You sound EXACTLY like those 'muh free speech' and 'muh doing no harm' people who justified all the degenerate 'social progress' we see now. It's people like you who will be the first to defend pedos and animal abusers when they become legalized. This is the result of your pig utilitarian "freedom".

I have literally said that I am against pedophilia and animal sex, I just think putting drawings in the same league as child porn is kinda silly

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

I have literally said that I am against pedophilia and animal sex, I just think putting drawings in the same league as child porn is kinda silly

 

[Deleted member 101]

Yeah, I don’t get how me defending LGBT folks and saying pedophilia will never be okay means I would be okay with it being okay
I despise people who abuse children

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

Yeah, I don’t get how me defending LGBT folks and saying pedophilia will never be okay means I would be okay with it being okay
I despise people who abuse children

I'm talking about a whole worldview and philosophy which has justified 'social and moral progress' under the pretence of "freedom", "liberalism", "rationality", "science" etc. You can disagree over specifics (paedophilia, bestiality heck even nationalism, communism), but the fact of the matter is the secular, liberal and materialist agenda that has infiltrated the minds of every westerner (even non-westerner) is very much alive.

But it's okay.

 

[Mainländer]

Gay pedophilia, probably soon enough. Straight man x girl pedophilia, never.

 

[Monk of Failure]

Bestiality and incest would be legalised in next 3-4 decades. Degenerate west.

 

[Mainländer]

I'm talking about a whole worldview and philosophy which has justified 'social and moral progress' under the pretence of "freedom", "liberalism", "rationality", "science" etc. You can disagree over specifics (paedophilia, bestiality heck even nationalism, communism), but the fact of the matter is the secular, liberal and materialist agenda that has infiltrated the minds of every westerner (even non-westerner) is very much alive.

But it's okay.

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Giga IQ. But only promiscuous and especially gay pedophilia belong to that secular degenerate wave. Men marrying girls young is a progressive's worst nightmare. Not only the useful idiots, the elites that push all that shit as well.

 

[Emba]

It will probably be "the final distraction" in the last stages of the American white genocide/democide by demographics.

 

[Deleted member 101]

I'm talking about a whole worldview and philosophy which has justified 'social and moral progress' under the pretence of "freedom", "liberalism", "rationality", "science" etc. You can disagree over specifics (paedophilia, bestiality heck even nationalism, communism), but the fact of the matter is the secular, liberal and materialist agenda that has infiltrated the minds of every westerner (even non-westerner) is very much alive.

But it's okay.

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Except I have yet to see pedophilia advocacy even touch the liberal/left mainstream. At least in the US.

I can’t even name a single pedophile group in the US other than NAMBLA, and AFAIK they barely even exist anymore and have to be super secretive because everybody hates them and because the FBI keeps tabs on them because most them are registered sex offenders/sexually violent predators.

 

[Robtical]

ARE ABOUT RAPE AND ABUSE AT THEIR CORE. ANYONE WHO THINGS LGBT PEOPLE ARE ON THE SAME LEAGUE OF EVIL AS CHILD RAPISTS AND DOGFUCKERS IS BRAINDEAD.

Relax bro, they're just fags and dykes. They'd fit right in with dog and kiddie fuckers. Jb fuckers don't belong with those filth though.

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

Except I have yet to see pedophilia advocacy even touch the liberal/left mainstream. At least in the US.

I can’t even name a single pedophile group in the US other than NAMBLA, and AFAIK they barely even exist anymore and have to be super secretive because everybody hates them and because the FBI keeps tabs on them because most them are registered sex offenders/sexually violent predators.

Yes I know. I even said most of society are against these activities.

That's why I posted a poll with future dates.

Here's a historical poll from gallup. Only 32% felt homosexuality should be legal in 1987.

Like I said above: 11% in UK currently think bestiality should be legal. Correspondingly, 75% said it should be illegal - those largely correspond to the 32% (for) vs 57% (against) homosexuality in 1987.

This is only 1987! Imagien what the pre-1960s were like before the sexual revolution and whoredom began. Given the rate of social progress just increases day by day, it's only a matter of time.

 

[Dregster]

non-offending pedophiles (those attracted to prepubescent kids but never chose to have that attraction but they still don’t act on it) will be accepted in 2 or 3 decades. And then they will be in the LGBT community. That I know for sure will happen. Incest probably will be legalized nationwide in the future (along with incest marriage) as long as they don’t reproduce. Same-sex incest won’t reproduce and heterosexual incest won’t if the brother has a vasectomy. I bet incest couples will be allowed to adopt kids because those kids aren’t biologically theirs. I don’t know about bestiality though. I think the moral panic over pedophiles will be gone in 2 or 3 decades

It'll be over for me by then. JFL at trying to secure JB as a 60 yr old

 

[Deleted member 101]

Yes I know. I even said most of society are against these activities.

That's why I posted a poll with future dates.

Here's a historical poll from gallup. Only 32% felt homosexuality should be legal in 1987.
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Like I said above: 11% in UK currently think bestiality should be legal. Correspondingly, 75% said it should be illegal - those largely correspond to the 32% (for) vs 57% (against) homosexuality in 1987.

This is only 1987! Imagien what the pre-1960s were like before the sexual revolution and whoredom began. Given the rate of social progress just increases day by day, it's only a matter of time.

You do realize that one can be okay with homosexuality and be against pedophiles, right? I see zero data, zero correlation of accepting homosexuality and accepting pedophilia.
People were against homosexuality back then because people back then were simply more hateful of anyone not Christian and white. Of course racism and homophobia still exist but they were way worse in the early days.
Again, I do not see how being okay what two consenting adults do in their spare time is on another league as pedophilia. The only way you can get people to accept pedophilia is if you can prove that
A. Children are sexual startling at a young age, pre and early puberty
B. Children who do consent to sexual relationships with adults are doing this with their own free thinking and not because they are children, who are easy to manipulate.
Just admit it, you hate gay people.

 

[Sheogorath]

child pornography is allowed as well in some countries
(Africa mainly lmao)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_child_pornography

Which nations are you referring to specifically?

Just because 3rd-world backwaters like Benin are so medieval that they barely have any laws (and thus nothing about certain specific things) doesn't mean it's "allowed".

This phrase also doesn't match up with your title: in the west they call it CP even when it's 17 year old girls, and that's definitely not pedophilia, they're mid-pubescent not pre-pubescent.

You have to be an utter fool to compare homosexuality,
which often involves at least two consenting adults,
and legalizing pedophilia are in the same league.

Homosexuality does not require consenting adults, it is merely the attraction 1 person has to members of the same sex. They could be fantasizing about raping them or literally raping them and it's still homosexuality.

You don't "legalize" people's sexual tastes. There aren't laws in existence jailing people for being attracted to certain things.

The laws refer to ACTIONS that people do. IE laws against sodomy or Unlawful Sex With A Minor.

Pedophilia is a mental state (like homosexuality) and not an action, so it's just bad grammar to talk about whether or not it is legal. It is a paraphilia. It's like the talking about laws regarding thievery and say it's about legalizing kleptomania.

 

[Deleted member 101]

Which nations are you referring to specifically?

Just because 3rd-world backwaters like Benin are so medieval that they barely have any laws (and thus nothing about certain specific things) doesn't mean it's "allowed".

This phrase also doesn't match up with your title: in the west they call it CP even when it's 17 year old girls, and that's definitely not pedophilia, they're mid-pubescent not pre-pubescent.

It’s illegal because 18 is considered to be the legal age of being an adult in most countries

 

[Sheogorath]

For voting, not for fucking. It's 18 despite the AOC being 16/17 in many American States. Or 15 in Sweden. Or 14 in pre-2008 Canada. Or 13 in Mexico.

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

You do realize that one can be okay with homosexuality and be against pedophiles, right? I see zero data, zero correlation of accepting homosexuality and accepting pedophilia.
People were against homosexuality back then because people back then were simply more hateful of anyone not Christian and white. Of course racism and homophobia still exist but they were way worse in the early days.
Again, I do not see how being okay what two consenting adults do in their spare time is on another league as pedophilia. The only way you can get people to accept pedophilia is if you can prove that
A. Children are sexual startling at a young age, pre and early puberty
B. Children who do consent to sexual relationships with adults are doing this with their own free thinking and not because they are children, who are easy to manipulate.
Just admit it, you hate gay people.

Yes I know it's theorerically possible to be anti-paedo and pro-homo. I wasn't denying that. You can't deny the correlation that all pro-paedos are by default also pro-homo.

Don't start that religious shit. Western Europe killed god in the 18th century. They don't give a fuck about whether someone is Christian or not, even if they're religious themselves. Religion became personal and individual. Protestant Christianity and all it's branches (Western Europe/North America) is a cucked religion.

Let's deconstruct what 'two consenting adults' means. Anyone with a liberal education will argue 'adult' is a "social construction" and age is an arbitrary legal designation, meanwhile what bearing all of this has on 'children's' ability to come to terms with their sexuality and enjoy it is questionable. I had raging boners at 13, more so than I do now!

The idea that 'consent' is required from 'free thinking' and 'independent' adults is also bullshit which is slowly eroding. I'm watching the news right now and almost every political party in the UK is talking about how they want to reduce the voting age to 16 - btw age of consent for sex is 16 here lol.

 

[Words2_live_bye]

I don't think pedophilia will be accepted any time soon tbh. Normies think that fucking an 17 years old whore is rape lmao

Soft core child porn is already legal in LGBT community, if you say anything against it, you will end up in jail.

what?
Also, pedophilia has already tried sneaking it's way into the LGBT community in the last 4 or 5 years, but it has been unsuccessful. Beastiality is partially legal in Canada, but only if it is oral sex with animals. And incest, i am unsure of. But i feel all will be legal, or at the very least, legal in part, by 2050

 

[Deleted member 101]

what?
Also, pedophilia has already tried sneaking it's way into the LGBT community in the last 4 or 5 years, but it has been unsuccessful.. And incest, i am unsure of. But i feel all will be legal, or at the very least, legal in part, by 2050

Pedophila seems the least likely to be legalized tbh
But hol up:
>Beastiality is partially legal in Canada, but only if it is oral sex with animals
What the fuck?

 

[Deleted member 6329]

Gay pedophilia, probably soon enough. Straight man x girl pedophilia, never.

 

[Deleted member 101]

Gay pedophilia, probably soon enough. Straight man x girl pedophilia, never.

People despise the Catholic Church to this day for turning a blind eye to priests raping little boys. Until this goes away I doubt it.

 

[Words2_live_bye]

>Beastiality is partially legal in Canada, but only if it is oral sex with animals
What the fuck?

yeah it was made partially legal in the last decade. I think around 2011 to 14 or so. Not sure if they updated the law or not. But back when it was made legal, it was for oral sex only. I think it counted for both an animal performing oral on you, or YOU performing oral on an animal. I guess penetrating an animal is seen as bad lol. Or being fucked by one. But Canada was like "But you can do oral sex though"

 

[Deleted member 101]

yeah it was made partially legal in the last decade. I think around 2011 to 14 or so. Not sure if they updated the law or not. But back when it was made legal, it was for oral sex only. I think it counted for both an animal performing oral on you, or YOU performing oral on an animal. I guess penetrating an animal is seen as bad lol. Or being fucked by one. But Canada was like "But you can do oral sex though"

If I’m ever in Canada again and I’m in a grocery store and see some dude buy peanut butter, I think I’m gonna puke.