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Experiment [Poll] Do you think Dick Size matters for Incels?

Do you think Dick Size matters for Incels?


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Since the obvious consensus here is that people with 'incel-tier' SMV get rejected before they have a chance to even have a chance to take any clothes off, most users here (including myself) would say that a dicklet with an incel-tier face has about as much chance as someone identical but with an optimally-sized dick.

Though many users (most famously @LastGerman) would still emphasise the psychological impact of being a dicklet in a society which values men with large dicks and emasculates and looks down upon dicklets. Others would say that since regardless of dick size, we'll never ascend, worrying about dick size is illogical, pointless and futile therefore not worth dwelling upon.

Was interested to see what the userbase thought.
 
Baby Alien wouldn't get to star if his dick was micro but his weird size also contributed to him getting pity fucked
 
ive always considered my dick size inconsequential to my SMV
 
i'm not dickletcel myself (though certainly not a BBCcel either), so I don't have a lot of authority to speak on this, but I can imagine it can affect your self esteem and psychologically fuck with you.


height also fucks with you in a similar fashion, only that height is more obvious and easily spotted by anyone and it's much more real in it's consequences on many aspects in society (not just dating, but career success, social circles etc.)

small dick only affects you in the bedroom, which no incel doesn't get anyway. So ultimiately I don't think it matters as much since I believe it can only marginally affect your self-esteem, unless you're like intersex or something. However i'm arguing from how I personally think I would feel it would affect me personally. So I don't have a lot of authority on this.
 
i'm not dickletcel myself (though certainly not a BBCcel either), so I don't have a lot of authority to speak on this, but I can imagine it can affect your self esteem and psychologically fuck with you.


height also fucks with you in a similar fashion, only that height is more obvious and easily spotted by anyone and it's much more real in it's consequences on many aspects in society (not just dating, but career success, social circles etc.)

small dick only affects you in the bedroom, which no incel doesn't get anyway. So ultimiately I don't think it matters as much since I believe it can only marginally affect your self-esteem, unless you're like intersex or something. However i'm arguing from how I personally think I would feel it would affect me personally. So I don't have a lot of authority on this.
These mirror my own thoughts on the subject, I didn't want to say too much about my own opinion to avoid power of suggestion.
 
Since the obvious consensus here is that people with 'incel-tier' SMV get rejected before they have a chance to even have a chance to take any clothes off, most users here (including myself) would say that a dicklet with an incel-tier face has about as much chance as someone identical but with an optimally-sized dick.
If you have a big penis you should be talking about it and showing it off all the time. There should never be a "reveal". A big penis have managed to get very many men to the bedroom alone, even those with otherwise truecel stats.
Though many users (most famously @
LastGerman
@LastGerman) would still emphasise the psychological impact of being a dicklet in a society which values men with large dicks and emasculates and looks down upon dicklets. Others would say that since regardless of dick size, we'll never ascend, worrying about dick size is illogical, pointless and futile therefore not worth dwelling upon.
Tell me you have never actually read @LastGerman's posts without telling me that you have never actually read @LastGerman's posts.
 
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If you have a big penis you should be talking about it and showing it off all the time. There should never be a "reveal". A big penis have managed to get very many men in the bedroom alone, even those with otherwise truecel stats.
Do you think that someone with your face and an ideally-sized dick would be able to ascend? Do you think someone with a Blackopps2cel-teir face and an ideally-sized dick would be able to ascend?
 
Tell me you have never actually read @LastGerman's posts without telling me that you have never actually read @LastGerman's posts.
@LastGerman talks about how he feels emasculated and feels as though society views him as inferior because of his dick size all the time.
 
Do you think that someone with your face and an ideally-sized dick would be able to ascend? Do you think someone with a Blackopps2cel-teir face and an ideally-sized dick would be able to ascend?
Yes, and I am writing a thread about it. There have been many examples of just this. This is besides the point but Blackopps2cel is in no way chopped, he mogs my face to oblivion.
 
If you have a big penis you should be talking about it and showing it off all the time. There should never be a "reveal". A big penis have managed to get very many men to the bedroom alone, even those with otherwise truecel stats.
There's no way this is true if you're short and or ugly. Maaaybe if you're thugmaxxed but idk otherwise. And naturally because people aren't allowed to brag here, you won't know if there are incels with big dicks, but I don't doubt there are.
 
@ @LastGerman talks about how he feels emasculated and feels as though society views him as inferior because of his dick size all the time.
I won't speak for him. Hopefully @LastGerman will come in here himself and elaborate on the nuances of his perspective.
 
And naturally because people aren't allowed to brag here, you won't know if there are incels with big dicks, but I don't doubt there are.
You would be surprised... @LastGerman
 
It has minimal effect past the psychological aspect if you are dealing with significantly worse detriments.
 
In my view: it affects you, but not terribly. It's not as bad as being ugly or short.
 
I wouldn’t be here if my penis was big
 
Though many users (most famously @
LastGerman
@LastGerman) would still emphasise the psychological impact of being a dicklet in a society which values men with large dicks and emasculates and looks down upon dicklets.

I will clarify. I do not use or talk for "psychology" nor do I talk for or use "society". "Psychology" is even often used in order to turn it around and spin a whole narrative of "it is all in your mind", "penis size does not matter" or "it is not that bad". When it is about "psychology", it is most likely quoted and I have actively talked against it. Specially in the last thread when it was about the so called "preferred" size. @TooSomething @Spooky_Heejin @AdolfRizzler @St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer were also part of the conversation or have been quoted.

For example:
Furthermore and I quote directly from Wikipedia:

"Results suggested that most women preferred a penis only slightly larger than average size, that their preference differs slightly across different types of relationships, and that they found penis size to be relatively unimportant in a partner, less important than cooking skills or dress, and only more important than eye color and car type."

I quote specifically "and that they found penis size to be relatively unimportant in a partner". Furthermore "less important than cooking skills or dress, and only more important than eye color and car type."

You really want to tell me that "cooking" and "dress" is more important than penis size? It is now clearly evident that they went in with a bias. Now it clearly shows and reveals how bad this study is.

@St3v3Cel

1. “Preferred a penis only slightly larger than average”​


  • The study actually just reported the mean of the selections (6.3–6.4 in) without showing the distribution.
  • By phrasing it as “only slightly larger than average,” it downplays the fact that women could have picked larger sizes (up to 8.5 in) — a subtle minimization of bigger-is-better preference.
  • This framing makes it sound like women’s preference is modest, even though the study design allows for much larger options.



2. “Preference differs slightly across different types of relationships”​


  • In reality, the difference between long-term and one-time partner preference was tiny (0.1 in).
  • Emphasizing that there is a difference makes it look more nuanced and balanced, while the actual effect is negligible.



3. “Penis size relatively unimportant in a partner…”​


  • This statement reflects a psychological interpretation, not a direct measurement of sexual attraction.
  • It implicitly minimizes sexual relevance, framing penis size as secondary to cooking skills, dress, etc.
  • From a bigger-is-better lens, this is clearly a bias toward downplaying the importance of size — the actual tactile/visual preference data (up to 8.5 in models) is ignored in favor of social ranking.



4. Overall effect​


  • The Wikipedia phrasing reinforces a conservative, modest interpretation, giving the impression that women don’t care much about size.
  • In reality:
    • The study does not show how many women picked 7–8.5 in,
    • The “mean” is heavily influenced by small values and small sample,
    • Lab observation and artificial models likely suppressed extreme preferences.

Bottom line:


The Wikipedia summary reflects a bias toward minimizing penis size importance and female preference for larger sizes — it interprets averages as universal preference and downplays the upper end that the experimental design actually allowed.


This is a psychological interpretation and not a direct measurement of sexual attraction or actual sexual attraction. This is why this was published in psychology. Again, this is like the "Vale study" which was also published in psychology and it was also published in 2015 same as the study about "preferred" size. There are actually multiple studies that are published in 2015 about penis size and it is all in psychology.

Psychology/Behavioral Context


Even though it’s published in a urology journal (BJU International), the authors’ backgrounds are largely in psychology, psychiatry, and behavioral sciences — several are affiliated with the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology and Neuroscience in London.
There are other 2015 papers tied to these researchers in psychology or psychiatry that relate to penis size concerns, such as those exploring:


  • Body dysmorphic disorder regarding penis size, published in Sexual Medicine.
  • Phenomenology of men with penis size anxiety, published in Body Image.


They try to spin it and make it about "body dismorphic disorder". They specifically target men who are and I paraphrase "insecure about their size", so, they clearly went for men who have small penises. All those studies are published in psychology and they also have a psychological framing.

This clearly shows how bad this study is.

The same applies to "society". @GeckoBus made a well elaborated thread about it and I frequently quote him. To simply put, "society" does not exist.

I will briefly go over it and simplify it. It is a blanket term and it is mostly used as a placeholder and as something to refer to. In most cases if not even all cases it refers to females and this is what @GeckoBus elaborated in his thread.

@LastGerman talks about how he feels emasculated and feels as though society views him as inferior because of his dick size all the time.

Having a small penis is emasculating and humiliating. This is what I say. This is not about "society". It is an inferior trait but not because of "society". It is inferior because it is small. Self-objecification is enough in order to determine that. The same is applicable to other traits as well.

I am also able to prove it. For that I always use a very simple question. It is basically a rhetorical question. If you could choose or if men in general are able to choose, what would they choose. A 4.5 inch penos or a 9 inch penis? The answer to that is clear and I do not think we have to play oblivous about that. Of course there would be others lying about it or trolling. But let us be honest here. All men would choose the 9 inch penis.

So, if it really does not "affect anything" or if it really "does not matter", then why would all men choose the 9 inch penis? The answer to that is clear.
 
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Imo, if incels deny the penis pill, they are either already bragging about their dick size or hiding the fact that they have a big dick.

Let's face it, I cannot understand what it is like to be a short man and dick moggers cannot understand what it is like to life with a small penis.

Lack in penis size or height have both their own downsides.

It really surprises me how the same people who mock @LastGerman for being so "obsessed" with the dick pill are just as "obsessed" with height and even go as far as to wish death upon so called tallfags.

Now me, personally, I would not wish death upon men with big penises, as that is the natural state, as @LastGerman has pointed out.

It is very simple.

There are three physical traits which foids care about.
Height, face and penis size.

If you lack in two of the three, it is pretty much over.
While you may get the interest of a foid with you face or height, the penis size with be the deciding factor.

If it js too small and cannot satisfy her through penetration, then she will look for a man who meets two of the three requirements.

And I know from my foid cousins that good sex is very important to them.

Getting a foid is one thing, but keeping her another.

But all of this should really be irrelevant as foids should not have a say in the choice of their husband.
 
it affects your self-esteem by a lot
source: am dicklet
 
Dickpill is a bit overrated imo

Imagine a scenario where there are 10 blockades between you and the woman you want to have sex with. Dick size is the last or second-to-last one.

Yeah having a small dick is brutal, but to even get in a situation where a woman sees or wants to see your dick, you passed way too many obstacles to consider yourself incel.
This.

There's still a psychological impact that can't be denied but how much it really affects your own chances? Not sure it's that relevant tbh
 
Since the obvious consensus here is that people with 'incel-tier' SMV get rejected before they have a chance to even have a chance to take any clothes off, most users here (including myself) would say that a dicklet with an incel-tier face has about as much chance as someone identical but with an optimally-sized dick.

Though many users (most famously @LastGerman) would still emphasise the psychological impact of being a dicklet in a society which values men with large dicks and emasculates and looks down upon dicklets. Others would say that since regardless of dick size, we'll never ascend, worrying about dick size is illogical, pointless and futile therefore not worth dwelling upon.

Was interested to see what the userbase thought.
no girl wants a man with a small dick
 
I will clarify. I do not use or talk for "psychology" nor do I talk for or use "society". "Psychology" is even often used in order to turn it around and spin a whole narrative of "it is all in your mind", "penis size does not matter" or "it is not that bad". When it is about "psychology", it is most likely quoted and I have actively talked against it. Specially in the last thread when it was about the so called "preferred" size. @TooSomething @Spooky_Heejin @AdolfRizzler @St3v3Cel @deleted dude @MoroccanFarmer were also part of the conversation or have been quoted.

For example:


The same applies to "society". @GeckoBus made a well elaborated thread about it and I frequently quote him. To simply put, "society" does not exist.

I will briefly go over it and simplify it. It is a blanket term and it is mostly used as a placeholder and as something to refer to. In most cases if not even all cases it refers to females and this is what @GeckoBus elaborated in his thread.



Having a small penis is emasculating and humiliating. This is what I say. This is not about "society". It is an inferior trait but not because of "society". It is inferior because it is small. Self-objecification is enough in order to determine that. The same is applicable to other traits as well.

I am also able to prove it. For that I always use a very simple question. It is basically a rhetorical question. If you could choose or if men in general are able to choose, what would they choose. A 4.5 inch penos or a 9 inch penis? The answer to that is clear and I do not think we have to play oblivous about that. Of course there would be others lying about it or trolling. But let us be honest here. All men would choose the 9 inch penis.

So, if it really does not "affect anything" or if it really "does not matter", then why would all men choose the 9 inch penis? The answer to that is clear.
why exclude me brocel
 
Yes but specifically if you’re a “shower.” If I was one (and had a big dick), I’d wear grey sweats everywhere and hope I get cold approached by some slut who takes note of my dick size/shape
 
Yes but specifically if you’re a “shower.” If I was one (and had a big dick), I’d wear grey sweats everywhere and hope I get cold approached by some slut who takes note of my dick size/shape
 
Since the obvious consensus here is that people with 'incel-tier' SMV get rejected before they have a chance to even have a chance to take any clothes off, most users here (including myself) would say that a dicklet with an incel-tier face has about as much chance as someone identical but with an optimally-sized dick.
I understand the purpose of this thread, but here, u are just lying. Straight up lying.

Saying that guy with small dick and another guy with same features as the first one but with big dick have the same SMV and chance of ascension is a blatant lie.

You for sure saw the penispill threads, and how everything is explained there with evidence. Then u come here and make this statement:
most users here (including myself) would say that a dicklet with an incel-tier face has about as much chance as someone identical but with an optimally-sized dick.
I dont know if this is a attention grab or what, but even „most users” here dont agree with your statement fully, so i dont know from where „most” came from.
 
I dont know if this is a attention grab or what, but even „most users” here dont agree with your statement fully, so i dont know from where „most” came from.
Even though second option has few votes more than the first one, it doesnt make it „most” but majority. Obvioulsy, not everyone voted so saying „most” can be a stretch in my opinion.
 

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